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What Was The Aim Of The Unitary System Ironsi Imposed On Nigeria by Osaze007: 7:45pm On Aug 06, 2020
What were they planning to do ?
How would they have shared resources as they were the poorest region in Nigeria then

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Re: What Was The Aim Of The Unitary System Ironsi Imposed On Nigeria by tommy589(m): 7:55pm On Aug 06, 2020
drnoel:


Bygones? Listen to urself. The question is a very good one and part of history, learn from it and forget sentiments
"Let bygones be bygones"

An old dog like me,what do I want to learn again?

Do you want to hear he assumed leadership of a coup he did not plan?

Is it the suspicion that he colluded with Nwafor Orizu not to handover to Bukar Dipcharima you want to hear?

Or

You want to hear the coupist did not face trial for the killings of politicians and innocent casualties of the failed coup.


Bygones i wrote is not for me. I have enjoyed the better part of Nigeria when nepotism was not on grandscale.It is an advice for those who still believe in Nigeria and those who don't,not to dissipate their energy in this online tribal wars and rehash of past events that breeds hatred.

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Re: What Was The Aim Of The Unitary System Ironsi Imposed On Nigeria by Osaze007: 8:06pm On Aug 06, 2020
It’s gone already but I want to know how the resources would have been shared , on what basis !

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Re: What Was The Aim Of The Unitary System Ironsi Imposed On Nigeria by tamdun: 8:09pm On Aug 06, 2020
Greed

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Re: What Was The Aim Of The Unitary System Ironsi Imposed On Nigeria by kingzizzy: 8:11pm On Aug 06, 2020
Osaze007:
What were they planning to do ?
How would they have shared resources as they were the poorest region in Nigeria then

Only an ignorant person will say that Ironsi imposed unitary system on Nigeria, it was Gowon that did that. Unitary system cannot exist where there is resource control and there was full resource control in Ironsi's regime

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Re: What Was The Aim Of The Unitary System Ironsi Imposed On Nigeria by Ojiofor: 8:13pm On Aug 06, 2020
Osaze007:
What were they planning to do ?
How would they have shared resources as they were the poorest region in Nigeria then

Who was the poorest region and based on which statistics?
Answer!

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Re: What Was The Aim Of The Unitary System Ironsi Imposed On Nigeria by Nobody: 8:14pm On Aug 06, 2020
Osaze007:
What were they planning to do ?
How would they have shared resources as they were the poorest region in Nigeria then
He impose unitry system ..yet we had regional governments
Lol Bros go and sleep ...u can't rewrite history

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Re: What Was The Aim Of The Unitary System Ironsi Imposed On Nigeria by Osaze007: 8:15pm On Aug 06, 2020
kingzizzy:


Only an ignorant person will say that Ironsi imposed unitary system on Nigeria, it was Gowon that did that. Unitary system cannot exist where there is resource control and there was full resource control in Ironsi's regime

Gowon built on it
But Ironsi introduced no propaganda can change such

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Re: What Was The Aim Of The Unitary System Ironsi Imposed On Nigeria by Ojiofor: 8:29pm On Aug 06, 2020
Osaze007:
It’s gone already but I want to know how the resources would have been shared , on what basis !

Wake up Gen Aguiyi Ironsi from his grave and ask him what was in his mind concerning resource control before he was killed by your heroes who consolidated on his unitary system of governance instead of abolishing it like they abolished four regions under Ironsi.
Current Nigeria leaders today can go back to what Nigeria was before the military intervetion rather cunniving and conspiring Yoruba folks will blame a man that died 54 years ago for all the troubles facing the nation.Go and join Sowore and protest for a better Nigeria that is what sensible citizens do

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Re: What Was The Aim Of The Unitary System Ironsi Imposed On Nigeria by RichBoy247: 9:12pm On Aug 06, 2020
Osaze007:
What were they planning to do ?
How would they have shared resources as they were the poorest region in Nigeria then

Aguyi Ironsi wanted to corner the resources of Nigeria for himself and his brothers but God pass them. Now, their generation yet unborn will suffer for it

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Re: What Was The Aim Of The Unitary System Ironsi Imposed On Nigeria by Osaze007: 9:14pm On Aug 06, 2020
RichBoy247:


Aguyi Ironsi wanted to corner the resources of Nigeria for himself and his brothers but God pass them. Now, their generation yet unborn will suffer for it

I know but on what basis. ?
What would they have done
North uses land mass & population , what would igbos use. ?

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Re: What Was The Aim Of The Unitary System Ironsi Imposed On Nigeria by Igboid: 9:35pm On Aug 06, 2020
RichBoy247:


Aguyi Ironsi wanted to corner the resources of Nigeria for himself and his brothers but God pass them. Now, their generation yet unborn will suffer for it

How so? When the two oil producing regions of Eastern and Midwestern regions already had Two Igbo premiers in Okpara and Osadebay?

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Re: What Was The Aim Of The Unitary System Ironsi Imposed On Nigeria by flokii: 9:40pm On Aug 06, 2020
Just picture a country practicing regionalism with secession clause in her constitution.. Nigeria would have been a pride of Africa but alas Azikiwe and Ironsi (two prominent Igbos) shattered the bright future of our dear nation due to greed and the false notion that their gods have given them Africa to dominate.

Who are those complaing bitterly now, wailing day and night in severe pains. Shioor!

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Re: What Was The Aim Of The Unitary System Ironsi Imposed On Nigeria by gwafaeziokwu: 9:42pm On Aug 06, 2020
Osaze007:
What were they planning to do ?
How would they have shared resources as they were the poorest region in Nigeria then

Almost 60 years and you are still playing the same moronic card. More than 12 helpless people were killed in southern Kaduna today and you are not even bothered. Why? Because deep down you do not feel any connection with the southern Kaduna man yet you answer "one Nigeria" with them. Death is walking all over Nigeria at the moment and all you could think of is a man that died 50 something years ago.

You all hated his unification decree but rejected confederation at Aburi and embraced state creation which was never agreed upon by national consensus. Tell me which is worse; unifying the civil service while maintaining the region or the outright dismantling of the regions by Gowon as he imposed state on everyone.

I ask again, if you hated unification decree so much, why did you celebrate state creation. More importantly, it's been ages, why can't you change things to what you want or did Aguiyi Ironsi throw the key to constitional amendment into River Niger as he fell to the bullets of Danjuma and co?

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Re: What Was The Aim Of The Unitary System Ironsi Imposed On Nigeria by frankyychiji(f): 9:49pm On Aug 06, 2020
RichBoy247:


Aguyi Ironsi wanted to corner the resources of Nigeria for himself and his brothers but God pass them. Now, their generation yet unborn will suffer for it
NL richboy has spoken.
Re: What Was The Aim Of The Unitary System Ironsi Imposed On Nigeria by gwafaeziokwu: 9:51pm On Aug 06, 2020
flokii:
Just picture a country practicing regionalism with secession clause in her constitution.. Nigeria would have been a pride of Africa but alas Azikiwe and Ironsi (two prominent Igbos) shattered the bright future of our dear nation.

Just picture a country where Awolowo refused to endorse state creation by Gowon and insisted on regionalism. Where south West supported whole heartedly confederation as proposed by Ojukwu at Aburi which is far better than regionalism and make it a whole lot easier for each region to go their separate ways because they have acquired loose autonomy.

I wish the men from the west had the balls in 1966, Nigeria would have been the pride of Africa but alas Awolowo and Ogundipe ( two Yorubas) cowered in the moment of decision. Ogundipe own was worse. He was the next in command but he ran away for dear life making it easier for an officer(Gowon) junior to Ojukwu to take over.

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Re: What Was The Aim Of The Unitary System Ironsi Imposed On Nigeria by frankyychiji(f): 9:54pm On Aug 06, 2020
flokii:
Just picture a country practicing regionalism with secession clause in her constitution.. Nigeria would have been a pride of Africa but alas Azikiwe and Ironsi (two prominent Igbos) shattered the bright future of our dear nation due to greed and the false notion that their gods have given them Africa to dominate.

Who are those complaing bitterly now, wailing day and night in severe pains. Shioor!
Mahn! So this level of idiocy still exists on NL?

Tueh! Hateful bitter you!

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Re: What Was The Aim Of The Unitary System Ironsi Imposed On Nigeria by flokii: 9:57pm On Aug 06, 2020
gwafaeziokwu:


Just picture a country where Awolowo refused to endorse state creation by Gowon and insisted on regionalism. Where south West supported whole heartedly confederation as proposed by Ojukwu at Aburi which is far better than regionalism and make it a whole lot easier for each region to go their separate ways because they have acquired loose autonomy.

I wish the men from the west had the balls in 1966, Nigeria would have been the pride of Africa but alas Awolowo and Ogundipe ( two Yorubas) cowered in the moment of decision. Ogundipe own was worse. He was the next in command but he ran away for dear life making it easier for an officer(Gowon) junior to Ojukwu to take over.

Aburi was/is null and void, not recognized by the constitution. The only valid agreement is that which Nigerians from all across agreed to not some nonsense aburi rubbish some felons and enemies of state (at that time) consented to.

So spare us your aburi bullcrap.

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Re: What Was The Aim Of The Unitary System Ironsi Imposed On Nigeria by Osaze007: 9:58pm On Aug 06, 2020
gwafaeziokwu:


Almost 60 years and you are still playing the same moronic card. More than 12 helpless people were killed in southern Kaduna today and you are not even bothered. Why? Because deep down you do not feel any connection with the southern Kaduna man yet you answer "one Nigeria" with them. Death is walking all over Nigeria at the moment and all you could think of is a man that died 50 something years ago.

You all hated his unification decree but rejected confederation at Aburi and embraced state creation which was never agreed upon by national consensus. Tell me which is worse; unifying the civil service while maintaining the region or the outright dismantling of the regions by Gowon as he imposed state on everyone.

I ask again, if you hated unification decree so much, why did you celebrate state creation. More importantly, it's been ages, why can't you change things to what you want or did Aguiyi Ironsi throw the key to constitional amendment into River Niger as he fell to the bullets of Danjuma and co?

You successfully didn’t answer the question

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Re: What Was The Aim Of The Unitary System Ironsi Imposed On Nigeria by Osaze007: 9:59pm On Aug 06, 2020
gwafaeziokwu:


Just picture a country where Awolowo refused to endorse state creation by Gowon and insisted on regionalism. Where south West supported whole heartedly confederation as proposed by Ojukwu at Aburi which is far better than regionalism and make it a whole lot easier for each region to go their separate ways because they have acquired loose autonomy.

I wish the men from the west had the balls in 1966, Nigeria would have been the pride of Africa but alas Awolowo and Ogundipe ( two Yorubas) cowered in the moment of decision. Ogundipe own was worse. He was the next in command but he ran away for dear life making it easier for an officer(Gowon) junior to Ojukwu to take over.

I’m happy you agreed Ogundipe was worse and he ran away and the act of running away is cowardly

So you agree Ojukwu is the grand commander in cowardice for running away from his people

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Re: What Was The Aim Of The Unitary System Ironsi Imposed On Nigeria by flokii: 10:04pm On Aug 06, 2020
frankyychiji:
Mahn! So this level of idiocy still exists on NL?

Tueh! Hateful bitter you!

What plans do you folks have for Nigeria in 2023 with your SE presidency noise?

You want to finish off what you started, isn't it? Grant Kanu, Uwazurike and co. amnesty to dismantle the "zoo" and then run off to biafra.
God pass una

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Re: What Was The Aim Of The Unitary System Ironsi Imposed On Nigeria by gwafaeziokwu: 10:44pm On Aug 06, 2020
Osaze007:


I’m happy you agreed Ogundipe was worse and he ran away and the act of running away is cowardly

So you agree Ojukwu is the grand commander in cowardice for running away from his people

Ojukwu fought like a true soldier for 3 solid years, Ogundipe did not even fire a single shot in anger.

Try all you could to equate Ojukwu with any of your cowardly ancestors, but the man walks in your dreams giving you eternal terror. Even in death, he gives you the hives. That is the mark of true warriors.
Re: What Was The Aim Of The Unitary System Ironsi Imposed On Nigeria by gwafaeziokwu: 10:49pm On Aug 06, 2020
Osaze007:


You successfully didn’t answer the question

grin

Where I come from, we often say that it's not every time a bush baby cries that we throw out a chicken to appease it.

Ask a question that will chart a new course for your Nigeria and maybe I will throw in my two cents. But when you regurgitate stale, history revisionism in a very idiotic manner then you deserve small lecture and not direct answers.

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Re: What Was The Aim Of The Unitary System Ironsi Imposed On Nigeria by laiperi: 10:59pm On Aug 06, 2020
Na which kin kwesiom be dis?

Ask what they did in the Mid-West. Central Bank was the first place they looted dry before any killing.

Then after the war, everyone claimed he had a million in the bank.

People that carried all their belongings forgot a million in the bank.

Yeah right!

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Re: What Was The Aim Of The Unitary System Ironsi Imposed On Nigeria by Osaze007: 11:36pm On Aug 06, 2020
gwafaeziokwu:


Ojukwu fought like a true soldier for 3 solid years, Ogundipe did not even fire a single shot in anger.

Try all you could to equate Ojukwu with any of your cowardly ancestors, but the man walks in your dreams giving you eternal terror. Even in death, he gives you the hives. That is the mark of true warriors.

Ojukwu is a coward simple

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Re: What Was The Aim Of The Unitary System Ironsi Imposed On Nigeria by stonemasonn: 11:47pm On Aug 06, 2020
flokii:
Just picture a country practicing regionalism with secession clause in her constitution.. Nigeria would have been a pride of Africa but alas Azikiwe and Ironsi (two prominent Igbos) shattered the bright future of our dear nation due to greed and the false notion that their gods have given them Africa to dominate.

Who are those complaing bitterly now, wailing day and night in severe pains. Shioor!
Igbos would rather blame Awo, Tinubu and Obj for everything.

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Re: What Was The Aim Of The Unitary System Ironsi Imposed On Nigeria by gwafaeziokwu: 11:53pm On Aug 06, 2020
Osaze007:


Ojukwu is a coward simple

grin
Anything that makes you sleep well at night.

What matters most is that the entire 45 million Igbo population regard him as a Lion who looked the rest of you barbaric cannibals hunting down Igbos in 1966 right in the face and asked all of you to go to blazes!

Who led them in a historic charge to die on their feet when it was less terrifying to live on their knees. It is not his fault that the spineless coward Gowon, despite having Igbo land surrounded for the greater part of the war, could not fish out his nightmare who was balling right under his nose.

We are all eternally grateful to him for not making it easy for the enemies of Ndigbo. He took his final salute like a true soldier at Uli Airport, and gave Gowon Danjuma , Muritala and their British conspirators middle finger. With that he gave the likes of you a reason to cry forever. Ikemba lives on! grin

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Re: What Was The Aim Of The Unitary System Ironsi Imposed On Nigeria by Tflex01: 12:04am On Aug 07, 2020
The reality is, with the settings of governance then, Igbos thought they will rule Nigeria forever.

The initial setup was actually designed to favor Igbos.
Modified:
Azikiwe (an igbo man) stood against secession by any tribe even when leaders from other tribes wanted it in the constitution.

Azikiwe teamed up with the north instead of Awolowo because he thought they can be easily manipulated.

Ojukwu (another Igbo man)foiled Adaka Boro attempt to secede and ensured he was jailed.

Aguiyi Ironsi (also Igbo) returned the country back to unitary system.

But when they realized that the political system was no longer in their favor, and their soldiers were relegated in the Nigerian army, they wanted to secede and take other minorities along with them in Biafra.

What do we call that

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Re: What Was The Aim Of The Unitary System Ironsi Imposed On Nigeria by ipodstinks: 12:05am On Aug 07, 2020
Ojiofor:


Wake up Gen Aguiyi Ironsi from his grave and ask him what was in his mind concerning resource control before he was killed by your heroes who consolidated on his unitary system of governance instead of abolishing it like they abolished four regions under Ironsi.
Current Nigeria leaders today can go back to what Nigeria was before the military intervetion rather cunniving and conspiring Yoruba folks will blame a man that died 54 years ago for all the troubles facing the nation.Go and join Sowore and protest for a better Nigeria that is what sensible citizens do
Lol, you mean the same way you are blaming Awolowo for your misfortune?

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Re: What Was The Aim Of The Unitary System Ironsi Imposed On Nigeria by Tflex01: 12:06am On Aug 07, 2020
tommy589:
"Let bygones be bygones"

Lol and allow all the igbo lies against other tribes especially the ones against Yoruba to stand

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Re: What Was The Aim Of The Unitary System Ironsi Imposed On Nigeria by Ojiofor: 12:08am On Aug 07, 2020
ipodstinks:
Lol, you mean the same way you are blaming Awolowo for your misfortune?

Can you quote me where I made such statement?
Re: What Was The Aim Of The Unitary System Ironsi Imposed On Nigeria by ipodstinks: 12:09am On Aug 07, 2020
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gwafaeziokwu:


Almost 60 years and you are still playing the same moronic card. More than 12 helpless people were killed in southern Kaduna today and you are not even bothered. Why? Because deep down you do not feel any connection with the southern Kaduna man yet you answer "one Nigeria" with them. Death is walking all over Nigeria at the moment and all you could think of is a man that died 50 something years ago.

You all hated his unification decree but rejected confederation at Aburi and embraced state creation which was never agreed upon by national consensus. Tell me which is worse; unifying the civil service while maintaining the region or the outright dismantling of the regions by Gowon as he imposed state on everyone.

I ask again, if you hated unification decree so much, why did you celebrate state creation. More importantly, it's been ages, why can't you change things to what you want or did Aguiyi Ironsi throw the key to constitional amendment into River Niger as he fell to the bullets of Danjuma and co?
[/s]Over 30years that Awolowo died , swear with your life that you did not mention his name.

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