raumdeuter:
Sarri now knows how it is to coach a top club with expectations not Napoli or Chelsea where you can do anything and no one has expectations

Before Sarri will be claiming, If only I had money, if only I can buy. He even won the league and still got fired

Some coaches will manage a mediocre side without expectations or pressure we will be overrating them

That is why coaches who go to high profile clubs that were expected to win and still deliver will always will always be the best like DelBosque, Pep, Zidane Carlo

All those Kovac Moyes Lopetegui Benitez Setien Valverde now knows the demand of a top club

If Pochetinno should take the Juventus job, he will be expected to deliver league plus a CL final or else he might get fired.

so you are saying pep is failing spectacularly yet isn't being sacked hmm

See uppercut angu

Pirlo!!!!

Pirlo to coach ronaldo...

raumdeuter:


They are good for their levels

Mourinho only won CL with clubs that were underdogs
He coached the 2 biggest clubs in football Madrid and Man Utd and did not win the big trophy, he probably does better when he is the underdog without pressure to win and win with a particular style

Mourinho won Europa and Carling for Man utd but the fans are not satisfied and he was rightly sacked. If he should win those trophies for a smaller club he might be made life president

Now Simeone is at Atletico rated highly, many will say he should move to Juventus or a top club

The second group are good coaches for small teams. They stayed long at lesser teams sometime not winning for years but were pardoned. See Sarri he actually won but didn't win enough and didn't win in a way that satisfied the owners

Delivering when there is pressure to win everything every season is the real test

I don't understand what you are saying.
First of all, success and failure is relative.

For instance, you don't consider mourinho to be a great coach despite him possessing the 2nd best trophy record and holding a lot of personal records of all the managers in the game currently, while also alluding guardiola as the best coach despite "failing" relatively to resources at his disposal and precedence.

it all comes down to personal opinions as usual.
I personally don't criticize players and coaches hastily because I always factor in the clubs reason for signing or hiring them in the first place and the circumstances that preceded them.
for instance, I don't consider sarri to have had a successful season, obviously, but neither do I consider him to be a failure.
He did the least expected.

BlueAngel444:
so you are saying pep is failing spectacularly yet isn't being sacked hmm

He doesn't even realize that that's the point he's making.

Kante starts...seems like a 4-2-3-1
But this Bayern self don't have joy

Let's go boys,miracle will happen tonight in Munich cos otem is behind us

See bench

Soft reminder. We are here o.

donjazet:


I don't understand what you are saying.
First of all, success and failure is relative.

For instance, you don't consider mourinho to be a great coach despite him possessing the 2nd best trophy record and holding a lot of personal records of all the managers in the game currently, while also alluding guardiola as the best coach despite "failing" relatively to resources at his disposal and precedence.

it all comes down to personal opinions as usual.
I personally don't criticize players and coaches hastily because I always factor in the clubs reason for signing or hiring them in the first place and the circumstances that preceded them.
for instance, I don't consider sarri to have had a successful season, obviously, but neither do I consider him to be a failure.
He did the least expected.

Your employers decide whether you failed or suceed. They reward that by offer of extension or sack
His employers decided that Sarri has failed and they sacked him despite winning the league
His employers at Napoli didnt sack him despite not winning

We have many coaches in football that looked brilliant in their no pressurejob but got fired at their first stab at a big club

The same Benitez who stayed at Liverpool for 5yrs despite ending multiple seasons trophyless was fired under a season at Madrid. Same with Valverde Lopetegui etc

A coach like Pochetinno/Klopp was given 5yrs to try and implement his philosophies at Spurs/Liverpool, would he be afforded the same luxury at Barcelona Bayern or Madrid?

I actually would have loved Pochetinno to get the Juventus job

Na wa o.

I would have watched this match oh but i hate puting myself in a helpless situation
when the rape starts, i won't be able to do anything to stop it

Bay 7-1 Che

afrodoc2:
Soft reminder. We are here o.

There's emergency over there your expertise is needed...Free us today sir

izzou:
Raumdeuter has a point sha

Moyes was considered a brilliant coach in Everton, until he got to United, and he was not even given that much time, and he was considered a failure

There are more pressures and limited time when it comes to the big teams.

Klopp is good. Look at how long he was given in Liverpool, even after losing two straight finals (UCL and UEL). I doubt if he would have that same chance in Madrid or Juve

Coaching the big teams comes with more pressures

That is exactly my point, Many people just think, Coach X is doing well at smaller club, give him big club Y and he will excel. If we look far enough on this forum, we will see people watching Sarri at Napoli and swearing that he will be the great coach if given opportunity at a big club

Sarri just found out that the comfort of Napoli wont be given at Juventus, Moyes found out the comfort of Everton wont be given at Man Utd
Same with all those Barcelona coaches Setien, Valverde. Same with Kovac and Carlo at Bayern
At big clubs they give you money, players and you must deliver from Day 1. No excuses of They are just learning my style or it takes time

raumdeuter:

His employers decided that Sarri has failed and they sacked him despite winning the league His employers at Napoli didnt sack him despite not winning
We have many coaches in football that looked brilliant in their no pressurejob but got fired at their first stab at a big club
The same Benitez who stayed at Liverpool for 5yrs despite ending multiple seasons trophyless was fired under a season at Madrid. Same with Valverde Lopetegui etc
A coach like Pochetinno/Klopp was given 5yrs to try and implement his philosophies at Spurs/Liverpool, would he be afforded the same luxury at Barcelona Bayern or Madrid?

There's a big difference btw being clueless and building a process.Benitez was clueless at Madrid, same with Lopotegui.Sarri was starting a process at Chelsea but you know they're dumb, so he was sacked but at Juve, he was clueless, they prolly had no pattern
Guardiola and Klopp went trophyless at first before they got the balance they wanted. that's process

raumdeuter:


That is exactly my point, Many people just think, Coach X is doing well at smaller club, give him big club Y and he will excel. If we look far enough on this forum, we will see people watching Sarri at Napoli and swearing that he will be the great coach if given opportunity at a big club

Sarri just found out that the comfort of Napoli wont be given at Juventus, Moyes found out the comfort of Everton wont be given at Man Utd
Same with all those Barcelona coaches Setien, Valverde. Same with Kovac and Carlo at Bayern
At big clubs they give you money, players and you must deliver from Day 1. No excuses of They are just learning my style or it takes time

Did Pep failed at Bayern Munich by not winning the ultimate prize of European football in UCL with the resources at his disposal and the time he was given?

Our first preseason match will soon start.
Chelsea just score goals, at least 2, wanna watch Odoi star tonight too bad Rudiger isn't playing, Zouma should have been rested

Bayern Munich 1 Vs Chelsea 4
Correct score

Go bluuus, we're here for you. We will celebrate with those that celebrate and mourn with those that mourn

raumdeuter:


That is exactly my point, Many people just think, Coach X is doing well at smaller club, give him big club Y and he will excel. If we look far enough on this forum, we will see people watching Sarri at Napoli and swearing that he will be the great coach if given opportunity at a big club

Sarri just found out that the comfort of Napoli wont be given at Juventus, Moyes found out the comfort of Everton wont be given at Man Utd
Same with all those Barcelona coaches Setien, Valverde. Same with Kovac and Carlo at Bayern
At big clubs they give you money, players and you must deliver from Day 1. No excuses of They are just learning my style or it takes time

so can we say that the comfort pep is "enjoying" at city is because city is a small club

Amoto94:

Did Pep failed at Bayern Munich by not winning the ultimate prize of European football in UCL with the resources at his disposal and the time he was given?

Your employers decide whether you fail or not
Some people might think Sarri succeded in Juventus because he won but his employers said he failed by sacking him
Peps employers at Bayern decided that he did not fail by offering him an extension

afrodoc2:
Soft reminder. We are here o.

Doc give us the name of your hospital. Make we petition them make them dey give you more surgeries or rounds because time too dey for you

Chelsea will lose tonight but I see a youngster from the side scoring a goal

A player from the bench

Ibime:
New season is starting in 4 weeks time.

The Hazard of yesterday still looked too chunky and lacking sharpness.

I don't think he will have the mental energy to use the next 4 weeks to get in shape at the end of a 13 month season where players are mentally exhausted and need to take a break.

His decision to enjoy without self control last summer has spiralled into something else. It is now affecting his mental state cos he doesn't look confident on the pitch at all. The fans don't respect him, his teammates don't respect him and won't give him the ball (how can they respect a player who turns up to Madrid fat as if their club is play play). He's now lost confidence to ask for the ball. Now next season is imminently upon us and he is still not in any shape for it.

This is how one bad set of decisions you make can continue to affect your life for a long time. Hazard gluttony of just 6 weeks last summer may have ruined his career and legacy. It is a good life lesson to always be prepared when going into something new.

Like Cascarino will have it, dude never took Madrid's move seriously.

It was just about being recognized as a galactico and pocketing a fat pay every week.

pamcode:
Doc give us the name of your hospital. Make we petition them make them dey give you more surgeries or rounds because time too dey for you

I am my own boss. I work when i want to, and today i am working as a DJ. Today's party go Nautica.

Andrea Pirlo appointed as new Juve manager.

Another Lampard?

BlueAngel444:
so can we say that the comfort pep is "enjoying" at city is because city is a small club

city is on d same level with Chelsea...they are not d big clubs but not necessarily d small clubs either

Hehehe, Pirlo to coach Buffon
Where's my Diary

We are here again
We are here again
Father we are here again
Holy Ghost come and take control.

Leyqute:
See uppercut angu

Baba don dodge that one