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Kobojunkie:
I asked you where Jesus Christ Himself, the definition of the New Covenant, the Grace of God to us, includes the suggestion that we become of Abraham when we are saved. Or even where God Himself said that His New Covenant will make this so.

Any other account means nothing until it is validated against the word of God.

What are you saying. So because the Lord Jesus Christ didn't say it, is not relevant abi.



Is it not in the Bible. As long as it is written in the Bible, It is inspired by God and it make it relevant

delkuf:
What are you saying. So because the Lord Jesus Christ didn't say it, is not relevant abi.
Is it not in the Bible. As long as it is written in the Bible, It is inspired by God and it make it relevant

I think I have more than made myself sufficiently clear on what it is that is relevant.. The word out of the mouth of God is.
Since you suggest that the idea in question is a part of the New Covenant, then it makes absolute sense to expect that the one who gave us the New Covenant would not forget to include that important detail(assuming it is truth) in His word to us. After all Jesus Christ is the truth of God, so it makes sense to believe that everything He says and He alone says is the truth we should adopt.

So I ask you, where did Jesus Christ or God tell you that by adopting His New Covenant, we become Children of Abraham by adoption?

Kobojunkie:
I think I have more than made myself sufficiently clear on what it is that is relevant.. The word out of the mouth of God is.
Since you suggest that the idea in question is a part of the New Covenant, then it makes absolute sense to expect that the one who gave us the New Covenant would not forget to include that important detail(assuming it is truth) in His word to us. After all Jesus Christ is the truth of God, so it makes sense to believe that everything He says and He alone says is the truth we should adopt.

So I ask you, where did Jesus Christ or God tell you that by adopting His New Covenant, we become Children of Abraham by adoption?

So it is only those things that the Lord Jesus Christ said that is relevant in the Bible.

delkuf:
So it is only those things that the Lord Jesus Christ said that is relevant in the Bible.

again

Kobojunkie:
I think I have more than made myself sufficiently clear on what it is that is relevant.. The word out of the mouth of God is.
Since you suggest that the idea in question is a part of the New Covenant, then it makes absolute sense to expect that the one who gave us the New Covenant would not forget to include that important detail(assuming it is truth) in His word to us. After all Jesus Christ is the truth of God, so it makes sense to believe that everything He says and He alone says is the truth we should adopt.

So I ask you, where did Jesus Christ or God tell you that by adopting His New Covenant, we become Children of Abraham by adoption?

Kobojunkie:
God made two contract agreements between Himself and men, and these agreements are documented in the Bible. They are at the center of His relationship with man.

OLD Covenant : This agreement is documented beginning from Exodus 17 through to Deuteronomy 30 where it is ratified between God and the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, AND Jacob. No other people are included in this agreement, and the condition for obtaining the promise in this agreement is obedience.

With Respect, You Are Wrong!

The Covenant with Abraham was Eternal which you know means subsists in Perpetuity! Genesis 17:7
"And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee."

Therefore, there can not be A Second Contract for the First One Has Not Ended, it Still Subsists, until Both Parties Agree to terminate it, which has never been done.

Secondly, you are wrong in saying "No other people are included in this agreement" for Exodus 12:48 and 49 Provided that

"And when a stranger shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the passover to the Lord, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof.

49 One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you.

Same Commandment was given to Abraham in Genesis 17:12.

Kobojunkie:
again

I don't know what you are saying

delkuf:
I don't know what you are saying

What I am saying is God is the one who makes the rules everybody, including Paul follows. As far as our Salvation is concerned, there is no such thing as a private revelation of what God means of what is available to us all.

So where in the Bible does God tell us that indeed by accepting His New Covenant, we become Descendants of Abraham?

Kobojunkie:
What I am saying is God is the one who makes the rules everybody, including Paul follows. As far as our Salvation is concerned, there is no such thing as a private revelation of what God means of what is available to us all.

So where in the Bible does God tell us that indeed by accepting His New Covenant, we become Descendants of Abraham?

Who is talking about private revelation. I shared a scripture with you and you said since it is not the Lord Jesus Christ that wrote it, it is not relevant. It is relevant as long as it is in the Bible.



Read gal 3:14/29

delkuf:
Who is talking about private revelation. I shared a scripture with you and you said since it is not the Lord Jesus Christ that wrote it, it is not relevant. It is relevant as long as it is in the Bible.

Read gal 3:14/29

Again... paul is not God. And Paul does not tell you that the words He spoke there are of God I.e. Paul did not declare He was delivering a message from God to us there.

The New Covenant is God's plan and anything that had direct impact on the plan or the promise associated will have to be announced by God Himself. This ain't rocket science, you know!

Kobojunkie:
Again... paul is not God. And Paul does not tell you that the words He spoke there are of God I.e. Paul did not declare He was delivering a message from God to us there.

The New Covenant is God's plan and anything that had direct impact on the plan or the promise associated will have to be announced by God Himself. This ain't rocket science, you know!

Yeah I know Paul is not God. The Bible is inspired by God, that include what Paul said was inspired by God.

delkuf:
Yeah I know Paul is not God. The Bible is inspired by God, that include what Paul said was inspired by God.

Wrong! Unless you are also going to say that everything Pharoah, and every unbeliever mentioned in the same Bible was also of God, I suggest you stop with the inane dribbling.

Kobojunkie:
Wrong! Unless you are also going to say that everything Pharoah, and every unbeliever mentioned in the same Bible was also of God, I suggest you stop with the inane dribbling.

I suggest you get some sense. Apostle Paul said through Christ we are descendants of Abraham. If you don't believe this well written in the Bible, then I wonder you believe. Have you sit down to ask yourself why is it that everyone in nl don't believe in this your idea, that means is wrong. break out this bondage that the devil have put you in before it too late

delkuf:
I suggest you get some sense. Apostle Paul said through Christ we are descendants of Abraham. If you don't believe this well written in the Bible, then I wonder you believe. Have you sit down to ask yourself why is it that everyone in nl don't believe in this your idea, that means is wrong. break out this bondage that the devil have put you in before it too late

Abeg, carry your nonsense logic pass me by!

I already started clearly what the rule remains as far as the things of God is concerned.


According to Jesus Christ, we are called to be Sons of God, not sons of Abraham. Why any sane individual will give up on the former to cling to the latter without solid evidence is beyond me.

Kobojunkie:
Abeg, carry your nonsense logic pass me by!

I already started clearly what the rule remains as far as the things of God is concerned.


According to Jesus Christ, we are called to be Sons of God, not sons of Abraham. Why any sane individual will give up on the former to cling to the latter without solid evidence is beyond me.

Well is your life. have a nice time

delkuf:
Well is your life. have a nice time

Use your head.. Why would you trade the best promise ever just so you can claim some mere kinship with a man?

God will never give you or anyone else that which belongs to Israel. So you better be sure what it is you have signed your soul up for.

Will you trade the best deal ever possible...Becoming a Son of God Himself along with inheritance of the Kingdom of God, away for believing that somehow you can share the land of Canaan with Abraham and His people here on earth?

Kobojunkie:
The old Covenant came with a yoke of about 613 Commandments, about 20 blessings, more than 30 curses, a burden that is borne by every person in the land, and a promise of eternal life in the land of Canaan. Only those whose ancestors line go back to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob could partake of this covenant. The seal of the Old Covenant was circumcision of the flesh.

This is also an error, it is not a yoke but a cure; Perfection of which would make a person Sinles, Blameless and Holy.

This is the Way to Eternal Life and the Way of God!