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jesusjnr2020:
It's obvious you have no idea what soul winning is about, if you think it's about planting churches and having the churches filled up. The most important thing is what are they being fed with? The words of the flesh that profits nothing or that which gives life?

When there were fewer churches, the average Nigerian was less corrupt, but now churches everywhere but corruption is everywhere as well. And you'd think your church buildings were closed down and the church was treated like trash because someone somewhere was against the church? That's what Jesus said would happen to salt that loses their savor. They are cast out and trodden by the feet of men!

If Jesus or the apostles were here, do you think their church would be closed down because of Covid-19? When they know that they need their church to be able to contain it?

I warned y'all last year, that the church had lost its savor, and y'all thought it was hate-filled. Look at what happened to your church buildings this year. They were rendered desolate for several months for the first time in living history. But continue to ignore the warning signs til the day suddenly comes upon you.

jesusjnr2020:
You're entitled to your opinion, but regardless don't loose touch of God. As I said earlier, we can't agree on everything so let's just focus on what we agree on. If you can't see what I see, there's nothing I can do about it.

delkuf:
I can't see what you see on this. We will agree on other things but not this one. But we should leave everything for God to judge, instead of us judging

jesusjnr2020:
It's obvious you have no idea what soul winning is about, if you think it's about planting churches and having the churches filled up. The most important thing is what are they being fed with? The words of the flesh that profits nothing or that which gives life?

When there were fewer churches, the average Nigerian was less corrupt, but now churches everywhere but corruption is everywhere as well. And you'd think your church buildings were closed down and the church was treated like trash because someone somewhere was against the church? That's what Jesus said would happen to salt that loses their savor. They are cast out and trodden by the feet of men!

If Jesus or the apostles were here, do you think their church would be closed down because of Covid-19? When they know that they need their church to be able to contain it?

I warned y'all last year, that the church had lost its savor, and y'all thought it was hate-filled. Look at what happened to your church buildings this year. They were rendered desolate for several months for the first time in living history. But continue to ignore the warning signs til the day suddenly comes upon you.

desiredhome:
Oyedepo do not care about you or any lost souls, all he cares about is your money money money......God of Mannmon (God of this world) is what he is worshipping........
Evangelism is about preaching and saving souls for Christ but his own evangelism is all about bringing members to his coven.....is all about crowd to make more money......
You plant churches all over the place and remit all the church money to the center while the local churches is left with nothing......you plant churches and give them target at the detriment of the members to continue Sapping them......

If he cares about you he won't build schools from your sweat and yet you can't afford that school........he won't be comfortable to see that over 50% of his members are living in poverty while he is living in luxuries.....

God can use anybody to correct you of your mistakes or wrong doings......it is only when you see your pastors as God that is why you think they cannot be corrected or crictized.....

May God open your eyes to see the truth

jesusjnr2020:
It's obvious you have no idea what soul winning is about, if you think it's about planting churches and having the churches filled up. The most important thing is what are they being fed with? The words of the flesh that profits nothing or that which gives life?

When there were fewer churches, the average Nigerian was less corrupt, but now churches everywhere but corruption is everywhere as well. And you'd think your church buildings were closed down and the church was treated like trash because someone somewhere was against the church? That's what Jesus said would happen to salt that loses their savor. They are cast out and trodden by the feet of men!

If Jesus or the apostles were here, do you think their church would be closed down because of Covid-19? When they know that they need their church to be able to contain it?

I warned y'all last year, that the church had lost its savor, and y'all thought it was hate-filled. Look at what happened to your church buildings this year. They were rendered desolate for several months for the first time in living history. But continue to ignore the warning signs til the day suddenly comes upon you.

hisgrace090:
PMB, beware of performing sacrifice in God's altar meant for priest alone as it attract God's wrath to whosoever doese.
Appointing board members for church by govt with force is uncalled for.


Allow God and His choosen ones to continue the work of God period.

Commentor:
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Quite haughty of you - there is no pastor in Nigeria that goes after souls like Oledepo.

Pure lies.

The man is only after money and power.

jesusjnr2020:
Yeah right! Sow doubts in his hearts against who Oyedepo? Definitely but not God. You can ask him about that. I know if you were there when Jesus was calling out the Pharisees, you'd say same of Him, so I wouldn't care any less about the disapproving opinion of the spiritually blind.

delkuf:
Which heart is he sowing doubt, you think am a baby in Christ or you think I just started going to winners

WhisperedNoise:
Oh dear,
Another Anti-Oyedepo.

First off, I don't even attend WC. Let's get that out of the way.
My issue with you lot is that you've allowed HATE, strife and anger to blind your eyes and full your perception.
Now, let's talk about your points one by one:

#1 - So B.O worships God of mammon, right? Eku ise o...God worshipper detector.

#2 - So you mean there are two versions of evangelism? Evangelism for money and to bring men to church? Wow...i never knew that kinda "evangelism" existed. So if I evangelise and the person gets saved and decides to follow me to my church, the evangelism is false? Gosh, that's such a revelation.

#3 - Church planting, target and finances - So you were the accountant general of WC, I guess, for you to boldly make such statements. Either that or you are making mere speculations and conjectures.

#4 - Here we go about the private school debate. That debate is older than Adam. Haha. Don't even get me started.

#5 - 50% of the church members are living in poverty? Woooow .
I never experredit. So you actually took a population sample of the entire WC worldwide and measured their gross annual income, the inflation rates of their communities and that brought you to the ludicrous and unsubstantiated claim that 50% are living in poverty?
Just look at your assumption and are the gaping flaws and errors in it.

You are taking this personal against me. I laugh.

As I said, I DO NOT attend WC. Never have. I have my own spiritual oversight.

What I am against is when certain Christians decide to hurt the church - the Bride of Christ - with ridiculous claims birthed oit of their hatred for a particular clan.

Selah

I wish you well.

Kind regards.

WhisperedNoise:
It's obvious that whatever I say won't shift your mindset of hatred against B.Oyedepo.
I leave you to God...the judge of all.
But, remember, the Church is the Bride of Christ...Christ will do anything to protect His Bride. Don't wound her.

Selah.
Shalom.

Geeman23:
may it never be that on that day we are caught up in the trap of useless mammon preachers like oyedepo. May we never be misled by greed for money.

delkuf:
Which heart is he sowing doubt, you think am a baby in Christ or you think I just started going to winners

CodeTemplar:
You know nothing but are just a hate filled fellow looking for outlets to express what is inside of you. Oyedepo personal evangelical outreach team is bigger than many corporate entities and have thousands of souls as fruits to show for efforts made. I challenge your empty head to name any man or woman who goes after soul more than Oyedepo in Nigeria or Africa.

delkuf:
I can't see what you see on this. We will agree on other things but not this one. But we should leave everything for God to judge, instead of us judging

delkuf:
I can't see what you see on this. We will agree on other things but not this one. But we should leave everything for God to judge, instead of us judging

jesusjnr2020:
When no one is chasing, someone who's guilty would be running. If he's not crying about tithes (money), it's outcry about money related matters. I wish he could cry about souls and things that have eternal significance and not just things which were of this earth and vanity.

God deliver us from such men who do not have your interest at heart like the apostles did, but just their self-centered interests.

Ayebagbalinyo:
I know you are very broken and you need money.
drop your account number I will be paying you #150,000 every month.
you only have money for data subscription.
wait till you grow so that you will not be talking to Men of God anyhow.

Ayebagbalinyo:
I know you are very broken and you need money.
drop your account number I will be paying you #150,000 every month.
you only have money for data subscription.
wait till you grow so that you will not be talking to Men of God anyhow.

Ayebagbalinyo:
I know you are very broken and you need money.
drop your account number I will be paying you #150,000 every month.
you only have money for data subscription.
wait till you grow so that you will not be talking to Men of God anyhow.

genkins:
Oyedepos personal marketing team you mean?

jesusjnr2020:
Hahahahahahahahahahha!!! Lol! Growth is now about how much money one has. So the disciples as Peter who were poor should have waited to have money first before they grew, right?

That sounds exactly like Oyedepo speaking, because those are the utterances of a mammonic mindset.

Jesus said, "The life of a man doesn't consist in the abundance of possession he has" but obviously you are not one of His going by this comment.

Imagine you wanting to bribe me with 150,000 naira every month to keep me shut, when Satan who tempted me with a 120,000,000 dollars to do same failed woefully. I even thought he grossly underestimated me.

Maybe you should try and make it a googolplex dollars let me if I'd even give it any thought. You have not the slightest idea that even if it's the whole world you offered me, it wouldn't be able to stop me from saying the Truth.

CodeTemplar:
There is something called spiritual growth Mr J J Otumo.

jesusjnr2020:
Lol! When you'd come here accusing me with a figment of your imagination concerning Oyedepo, what did you expect?

But you can continue in your delusions because whether your claim of not to be a member of his church was true, which I really doubt, it's beyond obvious that you're of the same mammonic mindset which would convert anything it sees, even the Truth of Jesus' Words, into the words/things of mammon and this world. So there's no difference there. Just different clothing for the same mammonic mentality.

Your god mammon has no power to judge me, because i'm not one of his own. Moreover, you have no idea who the bride of Christ is because the likes of you are definitely not part of it. You should also know that there are the "foolish virgins" even if by any chance you were a part of it, because you've hence proven that you're definitely not one of the wise ones.

desiredhome:
You are a typical example of what the Bible talked about "my people parish for lack of knowledge"

I don't know what you mean by hate or anti Oyedepo......

When your focus is not about the perishing souls but always money money money irrespective of how they get the money, then you are not doing the work of God..........

Richest people get their wealth through giving back to the society......ask Facebook owner how he became the richest man, ask Dangote how he became richest entrepreneur etc......by providing services for the benefit of human (humanity).....
How do your Oyedepo make his money?
By collecting from the people and giving back nothing........ this is enslaving the members...
By scamming his guelible followers due to high rate of poverty (black man mentality)

The worst sin is using God's name to lie and deceiving people.

And ye shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.

desiredhome:
The only way you succeed in life is to ask questions......when someone is doing wrong you have the right to correct or tell him/her that what he is doing is wrong.......

jesusjnr2020:
Yeah! And it's measured by how much you have mammon worshipper.

WhisperedNoise:
Haha Haha
This is by far the most hilarious response I've read in a while.
Q1- Winner's Chapel and B.Oyedepo are solid proponents of evangelism. Rural and urban. True/false?

Q2- Richest people get their wealth by giving back to the society. So, by your words, WC hasn't given back to the society? No...you can do better than this.
This is a very weak point, which i won't even bother to address.
Ask economists this, "If WC retrenches ALL her paid staff, what would be the effect on the Nigerian economy?"
Just ask any economist worth his salt around you.

delkuf:
who ask for your input

desiredhome:
A business man is different from a pastor....it is most wicked to use Church to defruad/deceived people......God is not a thief..........

If he is a true business man he should stop collecting money from his poor members......

When you say you are a member of an organization it means you are entitled to the benefits of that organization because you are a contributor......I have/know so many WC members who can never afford the fees of their universities, not even the Faith Academy situated in majority of the branches, because he care-less about them......

Collecting from the poor to enrich yourself wickedness