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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by homesteady(m): 9:01pm On Aug 19, 2020
williams10101:
Sergio busquet still has 3 years to run down his contract. I sure he was 30yrs at the time he signed his extension. How the board gave that man a 5-year contract sums up how myopic they've been.
This sounded so ridiculous that I had to check it up. It is true. They gave 30 year old Busquets a 5 year contract. This is criminal and totally senseless. Haven't they seen or heard about Chelsea's policy on contracts for players above 30? Na wa oh.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by homesteady(m): 9:06pm On Aug 19, 2020
I have lost all hope on Suarez leaving. He will still be here next season. His contract expires next summer and he will want to enjoy the huge wages for at least one more year.
I won't leave if I was him sha...
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Adiwana: 9:11pm On Aug 19, 2020
FirstbornWds:
Lol. You are funny.

Pique might be slow but saying he's not offering anything else is too harsh. Boss has won more aerial duels in the box than any other player and has one of those precision passes from the defense line to the offensive. Agreed, he has passed his prime, but it's still very much conducive to see him on the bench as a sub to key down already won games.
I dont judge players based on stats.They don't tell the full story. Messi had a very average season by his standards but still put up impressive numbers

Pique at this point should be doing what Ramos is doing for Madrid at this moment which is to lead the team from the back while Messi leads from the front. It's not all about numbers as any decent CB can win duels. It's basic defending101.

Yes our situation is way worse than Madrid but that lack of leadership from the backline is why players like Semedo and Alba can make Sunday school football mistakes in crucial games. Not saying it's his fault,but he's currently not providing that and he can go
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by joviegghead: 9:42pm On Aug 19, 2020
tesppidd:
Let's not kid ourselves everybody...

The only players that am sure the club and coach would make a conscious effort to sell are Vidal, Suarez and Rakitic.

The rest are subject to finding the right replacements for them.

Having said that; at least 2 of Alba, Pique, Busquets, Roberto, must still play in our first team in the 2020/21 season.

Let's not kid ourselves..
Koeman :"It's time to give the young players a chance "
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by joviegghead: 9:44pm On Aug 19, 2020
biomustry:
Barca board will rush immediately to appoint a coach after sacking mumus, they will not choose carefully
It's just damage control.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by joviegghead: 9:56pm On Aug 19, 2020
Adiwana:
I dont judge players based on stats.They don't tell the full story. Messi had a very average season by his standards but still put up impressive numbers

Pique at this point should be doing what Ramos is doing for Madrid at this moment which is to lead the team from the back while Messi leads from the front. It's not all about numbers as any decent CB can win duels. It's basic defending101.

Yes our situation is way worse than Madrid but that lack of leadership from the backline is why players like Semedo and Alba can make Sunday school football mistakes in crucial games. Not saying it's his fault,but he's currently not providing that and he can go
Just to correct you, barca has no leader on the pitch.
Messi isn't a leader(that guy annoys me even tho I love him) , neither is Pique nor any other player.
Messi is just dull as a captain. That's another reason the team plays without anyone to bring them to their senses.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by FirstbornWds: 9:59pm On Aug 19, 2020
joviegghead:
Just to correct you, barca has no leader on the pitch.
Messi isn't a leader(that guy annoys me even tho I love him) , neither is Pique nor any other player.
Messi is just dull has a captain. That's another reason the team plays without anyone to bring them to their senses.
Seconded
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Awesome01(m): 10:55pm On Aug 19, 2020
joviegghead:
Just to correct you, barca has no leader on the pitch.
Messi isn't a leader(that guy annoys me even tho I love him) , neither is Pique nor any other player.
Messi is just dull as a captain. That's another reason the team plays without anyone to bring them to their senses.
I'm forced to agree with you. I think he is too quiet or too introverted to lead the team vocally, he only depends on leading by example, but most times that is not enough.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Adiwana: 12:34am On Aug 20, 2020
joviegghead:
Just to correct you, barca has no leader on the pitch.
Messi isn't a leader(that guy annoys me even tho I love him) , neither is Pique nor any other player.
Messi is just dull as a captain. That's another reason the team plays without anyone to bring them to their senses.
Messi has never been the vocal type of player and leadership has never been his forte. But his job and talents comes with such responsibilities so i won't really blame him on that

Pique on the other hand doesn't have those problems and doesn't have the talents to be excused for. He's very vocal and played alongside both Puyol and Ramos who are fighters,has experience and should be replicating those attributes on the field for us. If he's not he should go

That's why I admire Ramos even as a rival fan. Love him or hate him,you can't deny that the man knows how to marshal out his backline and that's why he's priceless to Madrid
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by biomustry: 2:12am On Aug 20, 2020
Koeman is kissing Messi's ass as usual. Messi FC
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by barackodam: 4:22am On Aug 20, 2020
tesppidd:
Let's not kid ourselves everybody...

The only players that am sure the club and coach would make a conscious effort to sell are Vidal, Suarez and Rakitic.

The rest are subject to finding the right replacements for them.

Having said that; at least 2 of Alba, Pique, Busquets, Roberto, must still play in our first team in the 2020/21 season.

Let's not kid ourselves..
All 4 of them will grin

The only comma is Roberto, and if dem draft am go back RB, that's automatic starting again
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by barackodam: 4:23am On Aug 20, 2020
homesteady:
I have lost all hope on Suarez leaving. He will still be here next season. His contract expires next summer and he will want to enjoy the huge wages for at least one more year.

I won't leave if I was him sha...
Exactly the point. No club on earth will pay him 450k, not MLS, not CSL.

Na die he go die there
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by barackodam: 4:24am On Aug 20, 2020
joviegghead:
Koeman :"It's time to give the young players a chance "
Valverde and Setien both said it.

Tell us something new
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by barackodam: 4:27am On Aug 20, 2020
Koeman: "Frenkie De Jong has not been playing at his best position here. With me, he played closer to the defense. We will do the best for him."

Koeman: "Suárez? I won't talk about individual players here, out of respect."


M'fucker, you just talked about Frenkie, isn't that individual player? grin

Or frenkie now stands for the whole of Barça cheesy
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by tesppidd: 6:04am On Aug 20, 2020
joviegghead:
Koeman :"It's time to give the young players a chance "
And you think that means 11 young players every game?

grin
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by tesppidd: 6:06am On Aug 20, 2020
barackodam:
Koeman: "Frenkie De Jong has not been playing at his best position here. With me, he played closer to the defense. We will do the best for him."

Koeman: "Suárez? I won't talk about individual players here, out of respect."


M'fucker, you just talked about Frenkie, isn't that individual player? grin

Or frenkie now stands for the whole of Barça cheesy
lol

He must thread carefully

He might diss Suarez now and when the season starts the board will force the same Suarez on him.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by tesppidd: 6:12am On Aug 20, 2020
Adiwana:
I dont judge players based on stats.They don't tell the full story. Messi had a very average season by his standards but still put up impressive numbers

Pique at this point should be doing what Ramos is doing for Madrid at this moment which is to lead the team from the back while Messi leads from the front. It's not all about numbers as any decent CB can win duels. It's basic defending101.

Yes our situation is way worse than Madrid but that lack of leadership from the backline is why players like Semedo and Alba can make Sunday school football mistakes in crucial games. Not saying it's his fault,but he's currently not providing that and he can go
Let's not look for scape goats where there are none.

Leadership on the pitch is a problem Yes, but it's only max 5 percent of the problem.

70 percent of the problem is having too many tired legs in the team.

And yes we saw how Ramos' leadership skills led Real Madrid past Ajax and Man City.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by temi1290: 8:24am On Aug 20, 2020
FirstbornWds:
Seconded
Thirded
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by barackodam: 10:11am On Aug 20, 2020
tesppidd:
lol

He must thread carefully

He might diss Suarez now and when the season starts the board will force the same Suarez on him.
Oh, I know that very much grin

The only oldies leaving are the ones being benched anyway.

All the former starters will still be starters this season
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by FirstbornWds: 10:12am On Aug 20, 2020
tesppidd:
Let's not look for scape goats where there are none.

Leadership on the pitch is a problem Yes, but it's only max 5 percent of the problem.

70 percent of the problem is having too many tired legs in the team.

And yes we saw how Ramos' leadership skills led Real Madrid past Ajax and Man City.
Somehow, I think this post is sentimental. There's quite a lot that the seemingly 5% can do. It can revive a weary mind, rejuvenate tired legs and lift spirits to help the 70% come into manifestation. Of course, he might not have been able to do that all that against City but trust me, bro, should we have someone vocal enough with enough team respect, the shame of Roma, Liverpool or Bayern might have been averted. Not saying it won't happen, it might not have happened.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by melodyogonna(m): 10:14am On Aug 20, 2020
joviegghead:
Just to correct you, barca has no leader on the pitch.
Messi isn't a leader(that guy annoys me even tho I love him) , neither is Pique nor any other player.
Messi is just dull as a captain. That's another reason the team plays without anyone to bring them to their senses.
Yes noticeable, Messi is not leadership material, Barcelona needs better leaders.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Nobody: 10:26am On Aug 20, 2020
FirstbornWds:
Somehow, I think this post is sentimental. There's quite a lot that the seemingly 5% can do. It can revive a weary mind, rejuvenate tired legs and lift spirits to help the 70% come into manifestation. Of course, he might not have been able to do that all that against City but trust me, bro, should we have someone vocal enough with enough team respect, the shame of Roma, Liverpool or Bayern might have been averted. Not saying it won't happen, it might not have happened.
Bro, I think he’s right....that 5% is seemingly inconsequential to a tired leg.

More so, can Ramos yell at a Ronaldo or Messi?
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by FirstbornWds: 11:00am On Aug 20, 2020
SonOfAfonja:
Bro, I think he’s right....that 5% is seemingly inconsequential to a tired leg.

More so, can Ramos yell at a Ronaldo or Messi?
There's this match I saw Puyol yelling at Busquet and Iniesta. This game, we were losing 2-1 to a bottom-placed team and our mastereos were playing really sluggish. Immediately, these two got their rhythm right and we went on to win 5-2.


How about the impact of JT and his influence on Chelsea? I remember Lampard and Drogba affirming that they always had trouble in the dressing room whenever they were playing badly and somehow, whenever they got back after the break, they manage to scale through.


My brother, it's not really about shouting. Who that one help? It's about letting your teammates see that you're not pleased with their passion for play and encouraging them to work better.

And Yes, when you recognize there's a major difference btw having an exquisite work ethic and off-job romance, you'll know that anybody can yelled at to make a difference.


Messi na still the boss, so there's no person in that team he can't yell at if there's need to. That's why he's the captain.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by temi1290: 11:32am On Aug 20, 2020
FirstbornWds:
Somehow, I think this post is sentimental. There's quite a lot that the seemingly 5% can do. It can revive a weary mind, rejuvenate tired legs and lift spirits to help the 70% come into manifestation. Of course, he might not have been able to do that all that against City but trust me, bro, should we have someone vocal enough with enough team respect, the shame of Roma, Liverpool or Bayern might have been averted. Not saying it won't happen, it might not have happened.
They were so lackadaisical I that match against Roma,same as Liverpool, they played as if they've qualified, there was no one to make them sit up, not even the coach not the captain
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Adiwana: 1:00pm On Aug 20, 2020
tesppidd:
Let's not look for scape goats where there are none.

Leadership on the pitch is a problem Yes, but it's only max 5 percent of the problem.

70 percent of the problem is having too many tired legs in the team.

And yes we saw how Ramos' leadership skills led Real Madrid past Ajax and Man City.
Nah,am not looking for scape goats. Am just saying that is one thing Pique should be providing and if he's not providing it,he should simply follow the exit.

IDC about any ariel duels or the bs stats players like Van Dijk put up and people think he's the best thing after Maldini. Any CB can put up those numbers.

If he can't keep the defense head in crucial games,then let another take his spot. We can't look past this things if we're taking this giant steps
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by tesppidd:
FirstbornWds:
Somehow, I think this post is sentimental. There's quite a lot that the seemingly 5% can do. It can revive a weary mind, rejuvenate tired legs and lift spirits to help the 70% come into manifestation. Of course, he might not have been able to do that all that against City but trust me, bro, should we have someone vocal enough with enough team respect, the shame of Roma, Liverpool or Bayern might have been averted. Not saying it won't happen, it might not have happened.
Gradually captains are now being asked to do the jobs coaches should be doing.

The coaches are on the sidelines; not too far away that the entire 11 players cannot hear instructions barked at them.

The coach and the assistants have to do more.

This thing about captains shouting and "motivating" their team mates is a myth to me.

I have seen very many captain motivating fire but the team still loses woefully.
I have seen very many captains not speaking a word but his team thrashed the opponents.

It is the job of the coach to study from the sidelines and bark motivating commands and instructions.

Like Mourinho like Fergie Like Simeone Like Klopp Like Conte.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by tesppidd:
FirstbornWds:
There's this match I saw Puyol yelling at Busquet and Iniesta. This game, we were losing 2-1 to a bottom-placed team and our mastereos were playing really sluggish. Immediately, these two got their rhythm right and we went on to win 5-2.


How about the impact of JT and his influence on Chelsea? I remember Lampard and Drogba affirming that they always had trouble in the dressing room whenever they were playing badly and somehow, whenever they got back after the break, they manage to scale through.


My brother, it's not really about shouting. Who that one help? It's about letting your teammates see that you're not pleased with their passion for play and encouraging them to work better.

And Yes, when you recognize there's a major difference btw having an exquisite work ethic and off-job romance, you'll know that anybody can yelled at to make a difference.


Messi na still the boss, so there's no person in that team he can't yell at if there's need to. That's why he's the captain.
There was also another match we were losing 2-1 to a team at 18th position. Puyol was just barking at Pique and Dani Alvez, motivating them.

Guess what happened. Things changed immediately.


We conceded another goal and lost 3-1.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by tesppidd: 1:22pm On Aug 20, 2020
In my eyes Semedo went from 90 to 10 in one split second.
Courtesy of Alphonso Davies.

Na so player dey take kill another player career.

grin
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by iamyousuf03(m): 1:26pm On Aug 20, 2020
tesppidd:
In my eyes Semedo went from 90 to 10 in one split second.
Couriesy of Alphonso Davies.

Na so player dey take kill another player career.

grin
The guy fell from grace to grass���
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by tesppidd: 1:27pm On Aug 20, 2020
iamyousuf03:
The guy fell from grace to grass���
Hero to Zero if you like.
Damn!

grin
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Nobody: 1:31pm On Aug 20, 2020
FirstbornWds:
There's this match I saw Puyol yelling at Busquet and Iniesta. This game, we were losing 2-1 to a bottom-placed team and our mastereos were playing really sluggish. Immediately, these two got their rhythm right and we went on to win 5-2.


How about the impact of JT and his influence on Chelsea? I remember Lampard and Drogba affirming that they always had trouble in the dressing room whenever they were playing badly and somehow, whenever they got back after the break, they manage to scale through.


My brother, it's not really about shouting. Who that one help? It's about letting your teammates see that you're not pleased with their passion for play and encouraging them to work better.

And Yes, when you recognize there's a major difference btw having an exquisite work ethic and off-job romance, you'll know that anybody can yelled at to make a difference.


Messi na still the boss, so there's no person in that team he can't yell at if there's need to. That's why he's the captain.
I’m not saying someone acting like a leader isn’t a good idea, but if there are underlying problems like Barca’s own, if you like shout, scream and yell at everybody na still the same outcome he go be....

Barca’s problem isn’t passion. There’s no way you can motivate a tired or clueless player or a player who looks lost on the field, that’s the job of a coach and the management ....

Would you say Vidal isn’t passionate enough?, Alba? Pique? Busquets?
They’re just disjointed...

For me, their problem started with the recruitments of players. How can you tell Vidal, griezman, Coutinho to come and play tiki-taka?
Over the years they’ve been buying players who don’t fit into the system and it’s bound to boomerang...
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Nobody: 1:34pm On Aug 20, 2020
tesppidd:
Gradually captains are now being asked to do the jobs coaches should be doing.

The coaches are on the sidelines; not too far away that the entire 11 players cannot hear instructions barked at them.

The coach and the assistants have to do more.

This thing about captains shouting and "motivating" their team mates is myth to me.

I have seen very many captain motivating fire but the team still loses woefully.
I have seen very many captains not speaking a word but his team thrashed the opponents.

It I the job of the coach to study from the sidelines and bark motivating commands and instructions.

Like Mourinho like Fergie Like Simeone Like Klopp Like Conte.
This is the real truth...
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