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13. PAUL IN THESSALONICA:

*. Acts 17: 2 -4 "KJV:And PAUL, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days REASONED WITH THEM OUT OF THE SCRIPTURES,

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KJV:Opening and alleging, THAT CHRIST MUST NEEDS HAVE SUFFERED, AND RISEN AGAIN FROM THE DEAD; AND THAT THIS JESUS, whom I preach unto you, IS CHRIST.

EFFECT/RESULTS:
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KJV:And SOME OF THEM BELIEVED, and consorted with Paul and Silas; and of the devout Greeks a great multitude, and of the chief women not a few.


Note:
PAUL...REASONED WITH THEM OUT OF THE SCRIPTURES,...

THAT CHRIST MUST NEEDS HAVE SUFFERED,

AND RISEN AGAIN FROM THE DEAD; AND THAT THIS JESUS...IS CHRIST.

AND SOME OF THEM BELIEVED,

any time you tell the story of the cross, some will surely believe!

KNOWMORE56:
If questions flood una doormot now, una go run

Jesus never sent us out for arguement!

So our main target is the individual who wants to know the one and only TRUE Christian group, if the motive behind your questions is to ascertain the one group belonging to the one Christ, then JWs will be there to answer your questions. But when you're not interested in pure worship rather you're just thinking of how to justify the religion you're practicing presently, of course you can't be honest in your inquiries so we'll leave you to continue arguing with those who love arguements! 1Timothy 6:4; Philippians 2:14; Colossians 2:4; Titus 3:9

Note that you can't find any religious group where there's oneness of mind as Jesus prayed for {John 17:21-23 compare to 1Corinthians 1:10} all what you'll see is individuals from so many different religions with contradicting doctrines and conflicting teachings all claiming Christians {Luke 11:23 compare to 1Corinthians 14:33,40} even you yourself can't trust the Organization you belong because you're not even sure if what they're practicing there is right or wrong, that's why you keep evading the question "what is the name of your church?"

As for myself and 8.7 millions of individuals from different races under the heavens, we will boldly and confidently answer:-

"We are Jehovah's Witnesses " Isaiah 43:10; Hebrew 12:1

Maximus69:
Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
All other religions are false, that's why i keep insisting on the GROUP thing remember?
So i'm unshakably a JW for life!

I didn't ask you to tell me what religions are false. Are you equally susceptible to all wind of teaching is what is before you? Those you called FALSE CHRISTIAN have been teaching immortality of soul and Hell fire e.t.c for like forever. Do you know how many times your teaching have changed concerning the LAST DAYS?

Do you see part of the every wind of of teaching as salvation belong to 1. Acknowledging Christ brother's, Salvation involves being associated with the ONLY ONE ORGANIZATION on earth governed and having its own government over men?

achorladey:
I didn't ask you to tell me what religions are false. Are you equally susceptible to all wind of teaching is what is before you? Those you called FALSE CHRISTIAN have been teaching immortality of soul and Hell fire e.t.c for like forever. Do you know how many times your teaching have changed concerning the LAST DAYS?

Do you see part of the every wind of of teaching as salvation belong to 1. Acknowledging Christ brother's, Salvation involves being associated with the ONLY ONE ORGANIZATION on earth governed and having its own government over men?

You don't understand the meaning of every wind of teaching!

In ancient times sea travellers depends on the waves of the sea for faster movement and they'll concentrate on the direction they're going, so if the wind is blowing towards their destination they'll make use of it. But when the wind is blowing towards another destination they'll bring down their wind instrument!
People who can't say specifically where they are getting their spiritual food are just like lost sailors on the sea, so when you can't point to a specific source of your teaching then that makes you a subject to all kinds of wind, anywhere the wind blows! Kumuyi o! Adeboye o! Oyedepo o! Oyakilome o! Oritshejafor o! TB Joshua o! All can teach you God's word!

We are JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, we only respond to the teachings from one single source "Our GOVERNING BODY" so when any other brings their teaching we tell them "NO"

Maximus69:
You don't understand the meaning of every wind of teaching!

In ancient times sea travellers depends on the waves of the sea for faster movement and they'll concentrate on the direction they're going, so if the wind is blowing towards their destination they'll make use of it. But when the wind is blowing towards another destination they'll bring down their wind instrument!
People who can't say specifically where they are getting their spiritual food are just like lost sailors on the sea, so when you can't point to a specific source of your teaching then that makes you a subject to all kinds of wind, anywhere the wind blows! Kumuyi o! Adeboye o! Oyedepo o! Oyakilome o! Oritshejafor o! TB Joshua o! All can teach you God's word!

We are JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, we only respond to the teachings from one single source "Our GOVERNING BODY" so when any other brings their teaching we tell them "NO"

Achorladey: We are not meant to remain as children at the mercy of every chance wind of teaching, and of the jockeying of men.—Ephesians 4:14.

Maximus69: Kumuyi o! Adeboye o! Oyedepo o! Oyakilome o! Oritshejafor all of different Christian denominations.

Achorladey: Thank you for your......You don't understand the meaning of every wind of teaching. You eyes still dey see different TEACHING from DIFFERENT leading men of different Christian denominations.

What your eyes should have seen is all WIND of TEACHING does not necessarily depends on different men in different organization rather even in a particular organization like the one you BELONG DIFFERENT MEN has risen up to subject your members over the years to every chance wind of teaching .

In summary you don't need to listen to all personality you mentioned up there. Your GB within same ORGANIZATION have all been subjected to every chance wind of teaching. You too are under their subsection. The reason I asked you how many times have the teachings concerning the LAST DAYS subjected to every chance wind of teaching by the one ORGANIZATION you are a member of?

Look at the ILLUSTRATION and apply it to how your leaders jump on every major latest haapenings to propagate every chance wind of TEACHING

Maximus69: We are JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, we only respond to the teachings from one single source "Our GOVERNING BODY"

Achorladey: And the above confirms your SUBJECTION to every chance wind of teaching. Since your knowledge can never rise above theirs and when they say for example UNTIL NOW, HOW HAVE WE APPLIED THE PROPHECY FOUND AT JOEL 2:7-9?

Emphasis on the WE, are you there when they said that prophecies....For many years, we have applied that prophecy symbolically to the way in which Jehovah’s people, like an unstoppable swarm of locusts, engage in their preaching activity. Are you among the men PROPAGATING such teaching?

Are you among the WE? But when you respond to such questions in your meetings you implicate and subject yourself to every wind of teaching of men

achorladey:
Achorladey: We are not meant to remain as children at the mercy of every chance wind of teaching, and of the jockeying of men.—Ephesians 4:14.

Maximus69: Kumuyi o! Adeboye o! Oyedepo o! Oyakilome o! Oritshejafor all of different Christian denominations.

Achorladey: Thank you for your......You don't understand the meaning of every wind of teaching. You eyes still dey see different TEACHING from DIFFERENT leading men of different Christian denominations.

What your eyes should have seen is all WIND of TEACHING does not necessarily depends on different men in different organization rather even in a particular organization like the one you BELONG DIFFERENT MEN has risen up to subject your members over the years to every chance wind of teaching .

In summary you don't need to listen to all personality you mentioned up there. Your GB within same ORGANIZATION have all been subjected to every chance wind of teaching. You too are under their subsection. The reason I asked you how many times have the teachings concerning the LAST DAYS subjected to every chance wind of teaching by the one ORGANIZATION you are a member of?

Look at the ILLUSTRATION and apply it to how your leaders jump on every major latest haapenings to propagate every chance wind of TEACHING

Maximus69: We are JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, we only respond to the teachings from one single source "Our GOVERNING BODY"

Achorladey: And the above confirms your SUBJECTION to every chance wind of teaching. Since your knowledge can never rise above theirs and when they say for example UNTIL NOW, HOW HAVE WE APPLIED THE PROPHECY FOUND AT JOEL 2:7-9?

Emphasis on the WE, are you there when they said that prophecies....For many years, we have applied that prophecy symbolically to the way in which Jehovah’s people, like an unstoppable swarm of locusts, engage in their preaching activity. Are you among the men PROPAGATING such teaching?

Are you among the WE? But when you respond to such questions in your meetings you implicate and subject yourself to every wind of teaching of men

Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, you missed it again!

Different sets directing the Organization right from 1916 still remains under the same umbrella, the wind often blow coolness and at times warmth but it's still towards the same direction!
The over 8.7 million individuals from different races globally under the Watchtower Organization only obey the Governing Body!
So it's the still same wind not different Sir!

Maximus69:
Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, you missed it again!

Different sets directing the Organization right from 1916 still remains under the same umbrella, the wind often blow coolness and at times warmth but it's still towards the same direction!
The over 8.7 million individuals from different races globally under the Watchtower Organization only obey the Governing Body!
So it's the still same wind not different Sir!

Trying to remove TEACHING associated to the wind to COOLNESS and WARMTH

What direction was the wind in Joel 2: 7-9? Let us know if indeed it was in the same DIRECTION.

At least you now know every chance wind of teaching is done in your ORGANIZATION

achorladey:
Trying to remove TEACHING associated to the wind to COOLNESS and WARMTH
What direction was the wind in Joel 2: 7-9? Let us know if indeed it was in the same DIRECTION.
At least you now know every chance wind of teaching is done in your ORGANIZATION

You see what i meant!

You'll continue to argue blindly!

John the baptist taught his followers weekly ritual fastings (just like the Pharisees and other Jewish religionists of his time did) but Jesus overruled such. Mark 2:18-22
Please do you still think both John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth were from the same source?
That's what is called progressive learning! Proverbs 4:18
Remember the sea travellers? Well it's different measures and instructions they'll receive during different stages of the journey due to the warmth and coolness of the wind, moreso the depth of the sea also affects the movement of the ship so they don't travel at the same speed always but their destination will not change because they know the direction they're going!

@achorladey

You know i often ignore you completely but i'm only doing this to prove to your brother KNOWMORE56 that JWs don't run away from questions as he reasoned, we will always attend to individuals who wants to know the reason for the faith in us!
But once we notice that you're just looking for ways to argue fruitlessly we'll take our leave!

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Maximus69:
You see what i meant!

You'll continue to argue blindly!

John the baptist taught his followers weekly ritual fastings (just like the Pharisees and other Jewish religionists of his time did) but Jesus overruled such. Mark 2:18-22
Please do you still think both John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth were from the same source?
That's what is called progressive learning! Proverbs 4:18
Remember the sea travellers? Well it's different measures and instructions they'll receive during different stages of the journey due to the warmth and coolness of the wind, moreso the depth of the sea also affects the movement of the ship so they don't travel at the same speed always but their destination will not change because they know the direction they're going!

Maximus69: You see what i meant!

Achorladey: Narrative in place What I have seen so is after you have been shown wind of teaching is not related to only getting teaching from numerous source, you are now trying to disassociate wind of teaching from the group mindset.

Maximus69: You'll continue to argue blindly!

Achorladey: Face what is before you and leave ARGUMENT on one side. If it is not "you are missing it", it is either pathetic or you don't understand. Always trying to colour the issue.

Maximus69: John the baptist taught his followers weekly ritual fastings (just like the Pharisees and other Jewish religionists of his time did) but Jesus overruled such. Mark 2:18-22 Please do you still think both John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth were from the same source?
That's what is called progressive learning! Proverbs 4:18

Achorladey: That's what I need in bolded come back and tell me I don't understand. What you were been taught as PROGRESSIVE when looked upon repeatedly are EVERY CHANCE WIND OF TEACHING called OLD TRUTH, PAST TRUTHS PRESENT TRUTHS Na wetin you dey colour be that.

You cannot say the old truth about the earth is FLAT. Since the earth was never FLAT. Its FALSEHOOD from the start. You get how e take be now? So go back to Joel 2:7-9 is it progressive or regressive truth . Fasting no be FALSEHOOD from the start. You should know that when Jesus equally told his disciples they will fast when they no longer see him. Stop colouring the matter


Maximus69: Remember the sea travellers? Well it's different measures and instructions they'll receive during different stages of the journey due to the warmth and coolness of the wind, moreso the depth of the sea also affects the movement of the ship so they don't travel at the same speed always but their destination will not change because they know the direction they're going! [/quote]Achorladey: Simple you are at the mercy of the SAILOR or CAPTAIN of the ship Oga Maximus69 if you don't have the maps, compass and navigation system. Those things are all in the hands of GB. You don't have them, the reason you always look towards them to guide you. So when they tell you are on ATLANTIC OCEAN you agree without question. When they say you are now on the PACIFIC you agree whereas they are still on ATLANTIC OCEAN Since you simply don't have what it takes to navigate the OCEAN there by you subjected to EVERY CHANCE WIND of TEACHING

Under their supervision, we are 100% confident of the destination of our ship "Organization"
So we fully believe in their teachings Sir! John 17:20

achorladey:
b]Maximus69[/b]: You see what i meant!

Achorladey: Narrative in place What I have seen so is after you have been shown wind of teaching is not related to only getting teaching from numerous source, you are now trying to disassociate wind of teaching from the group mindset.

Maximus69: You'll continue to argue blindly!

Achorladey: Face what is before you and leave ARGUMENT on one side. If it is not "you are missing it", it is either pathetic or you don't understand. Always trying to colour the issue.

Maximus69: John the baptist taught his followers weekly ritual fastings (just like the Pharisees and other Jewish religionists of his time did) but Jesus overruled such. Mark 2:18-22 Please do you still think both John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth were from the same source?
That's what is called progressive learning! Proverbs 4:18

Achorladey: That's what I need in bolded come back and tell me I don't understand. What you were been taught as PROGRESSIVE when looked upon repeatedly are EVERY CHANCE WIND OF TEACHING called OLD TRUTH, PAST TRUTHS PRESENT TRUTHS Na wetin you dey colour be that.

You cannot say the old truth about the earth is FLAT. Since the earth was never FLAT. Its FALSEHOOD from the start. You get how e take be now? So go back to Joel 2:7-9 is it progressive or regressive truth


Maximus69: Remember the sea travellers? Well it's different measures and instructions they'll receive during different stages of the journey due to the warmth and coolness of the wind, moreso the depth of the sea also affects the movement of the ship so they don't travel at the same speed always but their destination will not change because they know the direction they're going!

Achorladey: Simple you are at the mercy of the SAILOR or CAPTAIN of the ship Oga Maximus69 if you don't have the maps, compass and navigation system. Those things are all in the hands of GB. You don't have them, the reason you always look towards them to guide you. So when they tell you are on ATLANTIC OCEAN you agree without question. When they say you are now on the PACIFIC you agree whereas they are still on ATLANTIC OCEAN Since you simply don't have what it takes to navigate the OCEAN there by you subjected to EVERY CHANCE WIND of TEACHING

Maximus69:
Under their supervision, we are 100% confident of the destination of our ship "Organization"
So we fully believe in their teachings Sir! John 17:20

Peter was walking on WATER . Perhaps he forgot there is a ship or canoe someplace somewhere

Thank you reiterating you equally accept every chance wind of teaching

Maximus69:
@achorladey

You know i often ignore you completely but i'm only doing this to prove to your brother KNOWMORE56 that JWs don't run away from questions as he reasoned, we will always attend to individuals who wants to know the reason for the faith in us!
But once we notice that you're just looking for ways to argue fruitlessly we'll take our leave!

Pure public relations. Na today! If you like argue fruitlessly or ignore me na your palaver. The platform remains a FORUM. Large access to numerous DISCUSSION if you like call am ARGUMEMT na your palaver.

Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa the owner hasn't commissioned the ship by then, so travelers can take little boats {Luke 9:49} but after the commissioning of the ship {Act 2:1-4} whoever wants to travel to the same destination must be on that ship {Act 2:42} even all those formally in little boats must come on board! Act 18:24-26

achorladey:
Peter was walking on WATER . Perhaps he forgot there is a ship or canoe someplace somewhere

Thanks for your time Sir!

achorladey:
Pure public relations. Na today! If you like argue fruitlessly or ignore me na your palaver. The platform remains a FORUM. Large access to numerous DISCUSSION if you like call am ARGUMEMT na your palaver.

Maximus69:
Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa the owner hasn't commissioned the ship by then, so travelers can take little boats {Luke 9:49} but after the commissioning of the ship {Act 2:1-4} whoever wants to travel to the same destination must be on that ship {Act 2:42} even all those formally in little boats must come on board! Act 18:24-26

that Peter walked on WATER still didn't tell your IMAGINARY BOAT or SHIP or ARK is useless that's why the same peter said

Now when they heard this they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?” 38 And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 For the promise is for you and for your children and for all who are far off, everyone whom the Lord our God calls to himself.”

God is calling us TO HIMSELF through WHOM? ORGANIZATION! Check again through WHOM? In what name?

Peter even hit the nail on the head CHRIST HAS SAYINGS of EVERLASTING LIFE. John 6:68 in the presence of Jesus himself.

We are not meant to remain as children at the mercy of every chance wind of teaching, and of the jockeying of men.

achorladey:
Janosky: No be Janosky fault wetin your brain no understand.

Achorladey: You see me dey call for help to UNDERSTAND what you will be eventually lost inside like other times

Janosky: 1Corinthians 3:23 "Christ belongs to God"

Achorladey: Why you no write Christ belong to the FAMILY since FAMILY IS GOD or ORGANIZATION .

Or you tell us is Papa Janosky equals FAMILY?

Janosky: Achorladey is simply paying lipservice 1 Corinthians 3:23,

Achorladey: Consolation. Until you show us where in that 1 Corinthians that JESUS BELONGS TO AN JEHOVAH'S ORGANIZATION no be only lip service be you case this follow join

When a man tells Achorladey: "This is my son" .
If Achorladey get SENSE, ask the man if his son belongs to his family.

John 9:4, who is Jesus working for?
Who are co-workers with Jesus?
Matt3:16-17,Jehovah God has already told you "This is my son".

Bros, continue to refuse to use your brain.
Or figure out the meaning and implications of God's statement.



Las Las Matt23:9. 1 Corinthians 3:23. Ephesians 2:19 and John 9:4 no dey that Bible you hide in your room

That's why i keep asking for the group you know that is performing better than Jehovah's Witnesses!
We believe Jesus arranged a small group that he is using to feed his sheep {Matthew 24:45} so we must be obedient to them {Hebrew 13:7,17} But if you know of any group that's performing well without such arrangement please present it!

achorladey:
that Peter walked on WATER still didn't tell your IMAGINARY BOAT or SHIP or ARK is useless that's why the same peter said

Now when they heard this they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?” 38 And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 For the promise is for you and for your children and for all who are far off, everyone whom the Lord our God calls to himself.”

God is calling us TO HIMSELF through WHOM? ORGANIZATION! Check again through WHOM? In what name?

Peter even hit the nail on the head CHRIST HAS SAYINGS of EVERLASTING LIFE. John 6:68 in the presence of Jesus himself.

We are not meant to remain as children at the mercy of every chance wind of teaching, and of the jockeying of men.

Janosky:
When a man tells Achorladey: "This is my son" .
If Achorladey get SENSE, ask the man if his son belongs to his family.

John 9:4, who is Jesus working for?
Who are co-workers with Jesus?
Matt3:16-17,Jehovah God has already told you "This is my son".

Bros, continue to refuse to use your brain.
Or figure out the meaning and implications of God's statement.



Las Las Matt23:9. 1 Corinthians 3:23. Ephesians 2:19 and John 9:4 no dey that Bible you hide in your room

Simple question has repeatedly resulted in "if Achorladey get sense" tell is FAMILY = GOD? Is Organization = God? According to 1 Corinthians 3:23.

At least Achorladey get sense to know in 1 Corinthians 3:23 Jesus is said to belong to GOD. Not an ORGANIZATION or not to FAMILY

If you like cite 50 Bible verses. The one I need is that 1 Corinthians 3:23

Maximus69:
That's why i keep asking for the group you know that is performing better than Jehovah's Witnesses!
We believe Jesus arranged a small group that he is using to feed his sheep {Matthew 24:45} so we must be obedient to them {Hebrew 13:7,17} But if you know of any group that's performing well without such arrangement please present it!

Asking for group is part of the EVERY CHANCE WIND OF TEACHING even in the Matthew 24: 45 you will never see GROUP there . So tell me how is that not a case just following every chance wind of teaching.

Jesus never said look for GROUP . The apostles never said look for a GROUP

Of what relation is between Matthew 24:45 and Hebrews 13:7,17 have if not the WIND OF TEACHING you are given on daily basis.

Tell us do you not submit in the MILITARY to those taken the LEAD while you were still serving? Do you submit to them when they decide to become MUTINEERS? .

achorladey:
Asking for group is part of the EVERY CHANCE WIND OF TEACHING even in the Matthew 24: 45 you will never see GROUP there . So tell me house is that not a case just following every chance wind of teaching.

Jesus never said look for GROUP . The apostles never said look for a GROUP

Of what relation is between Matthew 24:45 and Hebrews 13:7,17 have if not the WIND OF TEACHING you are given on daily basis.

Tell us do you not submit in the MILITARY to those taken the LEAD while you were still serving? Do you submit to them when they decide to become MUTINEERS? .

A vow to worship Jehovah means to follow his ORGANIZED people, the same applies to military service Sir, a vow to serve my country in the military means obedience to those taking the lead in the Nigerian Army.
There is no way a soldier can serve without first being assigned to a cantonment under superior officers, failure to adhere to the orders from these superior officers means breaking of the vow.
That's why you will hear from soldiers saying "Obey the last order" this means if a Commander issue an order but his no more present then another commander under the Nigerian Army came and give another order, so far it's still the same Army of the same country, any soldier who wilfully disobeyed that last order must be fired immediately to avoid a sabotage!
That's why we have a Governing Body in Jehovah's Witnesses Organization, they conclude first before issuing the order so that all the sheep both home and abroad comply immediately (begin acting on the last order)! Act 15:28-29

Please where is KNOWMORE56?

Because you said JWs will run away from questions but i want to address your questions.

The reason why i'm responding to achorladey is not because i want to convince him but to prove before all followers of this thread that he's just a rebel who is pained seeing obedient servants of God doing all things decently in an organized manner!

Please note that he's no more interested in the Jesus that he claimed to follow, rather he's bitter against a well organized setting exposing his rebellious mindset!

Maximus69:
A vow to worship Jehovah means to follow his ORGANIZED people, the same applies to military service Sir, a vow to serve my country in the military means obedience to those taking the lead in the Nigerian Army.
There is no way a soldier can serve without first being assigned to a cantonment under superior officers, failure to adhere to the orders from these superior officers means breaking of the vow.
That's why you will hear from soldiers saying "Obey the last order" this means if a Commander issue an order but his no more present then another commander under the Nigerian Army came and give another order, so far it's still the same Army of the same country, any soldier who wilfully disobeyed that last order must be fired immediately to avoid a sabotage!
That's why we have a Governing Body in Jehovah's Witnesses Organization, they conclude first before issuing the order so that all the sheep both home and abroad comply immediately (begin acting on the last order)! Act 15:28-29

All I see is the NARRATIVE. The question is simple.......

Tell us do you not submit in the MILITARY to those taken the LEAD while you were still serving? From your narrative, YES is the answer.

In essence submitting to those you see as your leaders is not RESTRICTED to the walls of the ORGANIZATION you belong. A classroom teacher will give due submission to the headmaster. Since the headmaster is the one taken the lead. Kajiko?

Still waiting for the response to the second question........
Do you submit to them when they decide to become MUTINEERS?

Maximus69:
Please where is KNOWMORE56?

Because you said JWs will run away from questions but i want to address your questions.

The reason why i'm responding to achorladey is not because i want to convince him but to prove before all followers of this thread that he's just a rebel who is pained seeing obedient servants of God doing all things decently in an organized manner!

Please note that he's no more interested in the Jesus that he claimed to follow, rather he's bitter against a well organized setting exposing his rebellious mindset!

Becomes at least you have learnt today that you are subjected to EVERY CHANCE WIND OF TEACHING by those taken the lead in your midst and its not a must you listen to the teaching of religious leaders of other Christian denominations before you are TOSSED here and there. Kajiko?

KNOWMORE56:
'Why didn't Jesus tell this man to simply confess with his mouth....?'

Because Jesus had not died and resurrected then.

Do you believe that Jesus is the Son of God?

Did Jesus himself ever mentioned he would die for anyone to save them from their sins?

I don't believe a God needs any son(s) to perform His duty!

achorladey:
All I see is the NARRATIVE. The question is simple.......
Tell us do you not submit in the MILITARY to those taken the LEAD while you were still serving? From your narrative, YES is the answer.
In essence submitting to those you see as your leaders is not RESTRICTED to the walls of the ORGANIZATION you belong. A classroom teacher will give due submission to the headmaster. Since the headmaster is the one taken the lead. Kajiko?
Still waiting for the response to the second question........
Do you submit to them when they decide to become MUTINEERS?

After the commissioning of the GB in the first century, this words of Jesus began taking effect immediately!

"I will give you the key to the kingdom of the heavens, whatever you bind on earth will also be bound in the heavens and whatever you loosen on earth will be loosened in the heavens" Matthew 16:19

When they were still following Jesus up and down during their training, the decisions they're making could be challenged by their Christian brothers because the Master has not done the commissioning yet. But from the day of Pentecost whatever the body of Apostles decided upon after praying whether right o or wrong o whoever stands to contradict such decision is stand against heaven itself so neither Jehovah nor Jesus will look upon such a rebel with eyes of favour!

Remember their decision to eradicate poverty in their midst, they were thinking it's not proper for some Christians to be too rich when others are so poor. So they began selling what they had and bringing the money together to share everything equally. Well that decision was a complete blunder because Jesus had warned them that "there will always be poor ones amongst them" {Mark 14:7} so they should care for such ones NOT thinking of how to enrich them materially speaking.
But despite making such a wrong decision, Ananias and his wife Sapphira died because they were not loyal the to the Governing Body that God's only begotten Son (Jesus) commissioned!

So my friend, that's why i keep hammering on the point that IDENTIFYING the GROUP Jesus is using really matters, otherwise anybody can just worship anywhere in Jesus name and when those taking the lead err you are free to disobey them, but with Jesus i'm sorry you must be 100% loyal to the core because Jesus doesn't know you if you refuse to be loyal to those he commissioned to lead you! Matthew 7:21-23 compare to Hebrew 13:7,17

No problem Sir, all followers of this thread are learning from the ongoing discussion between you and me!

achorladey:
Becomes at least you have learnt today that you are subjected to EVERY CHANCE WIND OF TEACHING by those taken the lead in your midst and its not a must you listen to the teaching of religious leaders of other Christian denominations before you are TOSSED here and there. Kajiko?

Maximus69:
No problem Sir, all followers of this thread are learning from the ongoing discussion between you and me!

Its no longer ARGUMENT. Other followers are now enjoying with keen interest . Speaking from both side of the mouth. Since that's the case. Its better that you too follow them learn that you can and are being tossed about by every chance wind of teaching in the organization you belong without the input from other religious organization. Kajiko?

Maximus69:
After the commissioning of the GB in the first century, this words of Jesus began taking effect immediately!

"I will give you the key to the kingdom of the heavens, whatever you bind on earth will also be bound in the heavens and whatever you loosen on earth will be loosened in the heavens" Matthew 16:19

When they were still following Jesus up and down during their training, the decisions they're making could be challenged by their Christian brothers because the Master has not done the commissioning yet. But from the day of Pentecost whatever the body of Apostles decided upon after praying whether right o or wrong o whoever stands to contradict such decision is stand against heaven itself so neither Jehovah nor Jesus will look upon such a rebel with eyes of favour!

Remember their decision to eradicate poverty in their midst, they were thinking it's not proper for some Christians to be too rich when others are so poor. So they began selling what they had and bringing the money together to share everything equally. Well that decision was a complete blunder because Jesus had warned them that "there will always be poor ones amongst them" {Mark 14:7} so they should care for such ones NOT thinking of how to enrich them materially speaking.
But despite making such a wrong decision, Ananias and his wife Sapphira died because they were not loyal the to the Governing Body that God's only begotten Son (Jesus) commissioned!

So my friend, that's why i keep hammering on the point that IDENTIFYING the GROUP Jesus is using really matters, otherwise anybody can just worship anywhere in Jesus name and when those taking the lead err you are free to disobey them, but with Jesus i'm sorry you must be 100% loyal to the core because Jesus doesn't know you if you refuse to be loyal to those he commissioned to lead you! Matthew 7:21-23 compare to Hebrew 13:7,17

Maximus69: When they were still following Jesus up and down during their training, the decisions they're making could be challenged by their Christian brothers because the Master has not done the commissioning yet. But from the day of Pentecost whatever the body of Apostles decided upon after praying whether right o or wrong whoever stands to contradict such decision is stand against heaven itself so neither Jehovah nor Jesus will look upon such a rebel with eyes of favour!

Achorladey: Another chance wind of teaching @ the bolded. Jehovah and Jesus support BINDING of people in the wrong way Where you take see that one?

Maximus69: Remember their decision to eradicate poverty in their midst, they were thinking it's not proper for some Christians to be too rich when others are so poor. So they began selling what they had and bringing the money together to share everything equally. Well that decision was a complete blunder because Jesus had warned them that "there will always be poor ones amongst them" {Mark 14:7} so they should care for such ones NOT thinking of how to enrich them materially speaking.

Achorladey: I have listened to you repeatedly about the apostles committing blunder about the Ananias and Saphhira matter. Oga Maximus69 account for the blunder as contained in the Scripture or It becomes of you too have grown into the stature of equally tossing others with chance wind of teaching like your leaders.

Maximus69: But despite making such a wrong decision, Ananias and his wife Sapphira died because they were not loyal the to the Governing Body that God's only begotten Son (Jesus) commissioned!

Achorladey: Show me wrong decision in that account . This your chance wind of teaching comes under the scrutiny.

Maximus69: So my friend, that's why i keep hammering on the point that IDENTIFYING the GROUP Jesus is using really matters, otherwise anybody can just worship anywhere in Jesus name and when those taking the lead err you are free to disobey them, but with Jesus i'm sorry you must be 100% loyal to the core because Jesus doesn't know you if you refuse to be loyal to those he commissioned to lead you! Matthew 7:21-23 compare to Hebrew 13:7,17


Achorladey: Had you shown where Jesus said look for a GROUP or Identify a group in Matthew and Hebrew you cited, I would have shown you indeed it is not a wind of teaching. But REALITY tells me otherwise. It is just like every other chance wind of teaching your masters serve repeatedly.

One of such wind of teaching is CALLING you the OTHER SHEEP friends of the brother's of Christ while your leaders call themselves brothers of Christ.

So how can I still be your FRIEND in the same category like those in your midst . Or are asked to harbour and keep worldly friends?

Where is KNOWMORE56?
Your warrior questioner has expended all his criticism and now he's out of questions, perhaps you can assist him this time around.
Àwon oníyèyé,
Jehovah's Witnesses aren't running away from your questions!

achorladey:
Its no longer ARGUMENT. Other followers are now enjoying with keen interest . Speaking from both side of the mouth. Since that's the case. Its better that you too follow them learn that you can and are being tossed about by every chance wind of teaching in the organization you belong without the input from other religious organization. Kajiko?

Maximus69:
Where is KNOWMORE56?
Your warrior questioner has expended all his criticism and now he's out of questions, perhaps you can assist him this time around.
Àwon oníyèyé,
Jehovah's Witnesses aren't running away from your questions!

You go soon go use your usual phrase or words I AM THROUGH WITH YOU aka Maximus69 concerning the bold. You shouldn't forget use asked KNOWMORE56 to borrow questions from me . So how can he be my WARRIOR QUESTIONER. Usual narrative and diversionary tactics