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Emmanuel Cole posted on his wall:
NIGERIAN PASTORS

They are running their churches 100% better than the way the president is running the country.

The fact is many Nigerians are loosing it. They can't think beyond going after pastors.

In what way has pastors prevented Nigeria from owning an airline

In what way do pastors prevent Nigeria from having industries

Less than 0.0001% of pastors own Jets in Nigeria. ----but no, let us forget the over 70% that earn less than 50k/month and focus on the 0.0001% than own jets.

If you run your governments the way church leaders are running churches. Nigeria might be a Qatar right now. In all these argument Canaanland has had stable electricity and water supply for its over 15,000 residents since 1999 and is already on the verge of converting waste to electricity. RCCG is producing 25MW of electricity. Yet your ... govt you pay compulsory tax, vat, CIT, Pet Tax has not been able to give you light decades after independence.

Living Faith has more than 25,000 Staff and has never owed any of them salary! Yet your state govt that collects Allocation plus Tax cannot pay full salary.

Living Faith, a single Church, is schooling 16 thousand of your Citizens in Higher institutions and many more at primary and Secondary levels yet you think you have the capacity to waggle your tongue

I went for Shiloh all through and stayed in the staff quarters, yet it was electricity all through; for one second, water did not go off in spite of thousands that were present. On a normal day you won't walk 20 metres before you find a segregated bin to dispose your waste.

The entire area was fully covered by different layers of Security with multiple CCTV and IoT enabled barrier gates. And yet your Abuja, capital of the Nation does not have CCTV yet you open your .... mouth to talk down on pastors!

Between the guy that calls himself Area father and Bishop David Oyedepo Ministries International who resigned a federal job and started a Church of 3 people and has widened it to over 6,000 churches globally, over 200 schools, 2 hospitals, Over 1000 hectares farm for livestock and crop, Another farm in Igbesa and CU. With 15,000 housing Estate in progress, Water factories, Zeolite factory, One Research center, a scholarship fund, Beverage factories, 10 million books, Publishing house, Radio Station etc who has had more impact or who will have better capacity to govern the nation...??

Canaanland hosts hundreds of thousands of people every week yet no stampede ever. Government gathered people at stadium for recruitment exercise and before it even began, many were dead!

Living Faith already has a master plan till 2032 yet govt does not have a plan for 2020!

You know Illogicality is the trademark of most Africans. They fail to think beyond their prejudices and sentiments hence Africa has remained on the ground.

Can we imagine how developed the nation would have been if we have people with the right mindset at the helm of the nation’s affairs? God bless all our pastors.

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No matter what the churches do, the fact remains that they are robbing Peter(the poor) to pay Paul(themselves).

Don't even go there! Those guys in collaboration with African traditional beliefs and politicians contributed to the failures of this country

paxonel:
Don't even go there! Those guys in collaboration with African traditional beliefs and politicians contributed to the failures of this country

How did the Church contribute to the failures of this country? Instead of the government to ask Oyedepo and the likes how they manage to supply constant electricity, you are here blaming the Church for what they are not responsible for in the first place. They should learn a thing or two from how the Churches are being run in Nigeria

backnbeta:
How did the Church contribute to the failures of this country? Instead of the government to ask Oyedepo and the likes how they manage to supply constant electricity, you are here blaming the Church for what they are not responsible for in the first place. They should learn a thing or two from how the Churches are being run in Nigeria

we know the church can prove power and run their business ofcourse most private business ventures do that.
But why am i saying the church contributed to the failures of this country?
In terms of developing the mental capacity and intelligence of church members by educating them the content of the bible which was their responsibility the church has failed to do that over the years. And that alone is largely responsible for the failures of the government because most politicians believe in one faith or the other. Almost all the Christians who are politicians in Nigeria today are not intelligent people compared to politians in developed nations that's why there are failures in the polity

OtemAtum:
No matter what the churches do, the fact remains that they are robbing Peter(the poor) to pay Paul(themselves).

You're wrong. Robbing who? People give to worship God. Its a Christian thing and we do it joyfully. Don't your babalawos and alfas collect money? .

petra1:
You're wrong. Robbing who? People give to worship God. Its a Christian thing and we do it joyfully. Don't your babalawos and alfas collect money? .

Your pastors rob the gullible peters(church members) to pay the wise pauls(church full time workers). Get that straight, it's not hard to understand.

OtemAtum:
Your pastors rob the gullible peters(church members) to pay the wise pauls(church full time workers). Get that straight, it's not hard to understand.

That is not robbery . That is welfare. Don't you get paid?

If the people are devoted to being good citizens of their country the way they are devoted to being that to their churches,Nigeria would have been a Qatar by now. That's what you should discuss.

OtemAtum:
No matter what the churches do, the fact remains that they are robbing Peter(the poor) to pay Paul(themselves).

I hope you know church members do not pay taxes

I hope you know no church member in winners is compelled to do shit


Robbing who to pay who??

I paid tax in Lagos bro

I know what it means

No body is robbing no body

BeLookingIDIOT:
If the people are devoted to being good citizens of their country the way they are devoted to being that in their churches,Nigeria would have been a Qatar by now. That's what you should discuss.

May be you should start from yourself sir

paxonel:
we know the church can prove power and run their business ofcourse most private business ventures do that.
But why am i saying the church contributed to the failures of this country?
In terms of developing the mental capacity and intelligence of church members by educating them the content of the bible which was their responsibility the church has failed to do that over the years. And that alone is largely responsible for the failures of the government because most politicians believe in one faith or the other. Almost all the Christians who are politicians in Nigeria today are not intelligent people compared to politians in developed nations that's why there are failures in the polity

No go develop your brain


be looking for church


Better go school ooooooooooooo

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Emmanuel Cole posted on his wall:
NIGERIAN PASTORS



Living Faith, a single Church, is schooling 16 thousand of your Citizens in Higher institutions and many more at primary and Secondary levels yet you think you have the capacity to waggle your tongue

DA PADA!!! @bolded. Schooling 16,000 of your "rich" citizens you mean? After collecting money from the poorest of the poor. I can still remember the Sunday when it was being said "let us sow for the building of OUR SCHOOL. At last our children will attend OUR SCHOOL. IT IS FOR US". Not knowing it is for oledepo and his family. How I wish the poor knew that the school would never be attended by their children and they'll NEVER BE STAKE HOLDERS as fooled to believe, they would have held their offering. But alas, THEY HAVE BEEN DUPED. Now (as God would have it) CAMA is haunting the said church. CAMA is a bitch

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Emmanuel Cole posted on his wall:
NIGERIAN PASTORS



Living Faith already has a master plan till 2032 yet govt does not have a plan for 2020!

You know Illogicality is the trademark of

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Why not? Every business organization has this so it's no big deal. You have to have a master plan to meet a Target in order for MORE PROFITS.
CAMA: putting people on their toes.
CAMA is a bitch

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Emmanuel Cole posted on his wall:
NIGERIAN PASTORS


Between the guy that calls himself Area father and Bishop David Oyedepo Ministries International who resigned a federal job and started a Church of 3 people and has widened it to over 6,000 churches globally, over 200 schools, 2 hospitals, Over 1000 hectares farm for livestock and crop, Another farm in Igbesa and CU. With 15,000 housing Estate in progress, Water factories, Zeolite factory, One Research center, a scholarship fund, Beverage factories, 10 million books, Publishing house, Radio Station etc who has had more impact or who will have better capacity to govern the nation...??

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He had a GREAT VISION (typical of an entrepreneur). Besides, how much was their take home pay those days? You think it's like nowadays that thanks to obasanjo's monetization, federal government jobs are enviable? Siddon there *yimu*

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Emmanuel Cole posted on his wall:


In what way do pastors prevent Nigeria from having industries

Less than 0.0001% of pastors own Jets in Nigeria. ----but no, let us forget the over 70% that earn less than 50k/month and focus on the 0.0001% than own jets.

If you run your governments the way church leaders are running churches. Nigeria might be a Qatar right now. In all these argument Canaanland has had stable electricity and water supply for its over 15,000 residents since 1999 and is already on the verge of converting waste to electricity. RCCG is producing 25MW of electricity. Yet your ... govt you pay compulsory tax, vat, CIT, Pet Tax has not been able to give you light decades after independence.



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Wawuuu! Really? If with people's cajoled money, they (the poor in the church) are STILL unable to send their kids to the church's institution, due to the cost (despite they contributed o) how much more when they (The church ...... ooops! churches are good o! I mean oledepo's ministry) rule Nigeria WITH "PEOPLE'S TAXES O". Hehehe I laugh in Arabia. We would literally pay for the air we breathe. Qatar that has no poor man? Can living faith boast of even the poor attending her universities? Are all their pastors rich alone not even talking about the members of the church? SMH Nigerians have lost their senses of reasoning. This is pure MUMURISM. Who brought Christianity did us harm I swearigad

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Emmanuel Cole posted on his wall:
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And to you my brother (Original poster) THIS was what helped you

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No go develop your brain


be looking for church


Better go school ooooooooooooo

I presented my argument with reasons. You come here concluding your filthy opinion without one single premise attach to it yet you call it argument.

You well so?

paxonel:
Don't even go there! Those guys in collaboration with African traditional beliefs and politicians contributed to the failures of this country

African Traditional Beliefs?

After systematically destroying ATR you people are still not done blaming us for your failures?

Bugger off you rascal!

PAGAN9JA:
African Traditional Beliefs?

After systematically destroying ATR you people are still not done blaming us for your failures?

Bugger off you rascal!

you do not have any argument!

Let me ask you, does African traditional juju work yes or no?

If African traditional beliefs were true how come white men came to Africa to displaced your ATR and institute their beliefs?
Can any African propagate their traditional beliefs and religion in Europe such that it is accepted and become popular among white men?

What is true does not depend on any man or religion or race or creed.

sbaks:
And to you my brother (Original poster) THIS was what helped you

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