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Re: Akpata, Sans Kick As Northern Lawyers Form Parallel NBA by Oracleforce: 4:36pm On Aug 29, 2020
JidennaJason:
Another clear example to tell you that the northerners are always in a "REVERSE MODE"

They see Akpata as a threat to their "Shari'a" type of law.

It would be difficult for us to move forward as a nation when we have this backward thinking people at the helms of affair.
If the association of lawyers or liars who suppose to be the hope of common men and custodians of our constitutions formed a splinter group and are in disarray what is now the hope for the country?
Folks, the truth must be told....let the nation do the needful...Nigeria is not one. there are so many things that divide us than what binds us together.
Let's deliver ourselves from this protracted and prolonged lies have caused a lot of devastating effects on the growth and development of the nation...
Let the northerners embrace their Sharia law while the southerners embrace our democratic Constitution...it is high time we told ourselves the truth...nothing join us together except lie and sentiment...
I know for sure that before 2030 the fraud country and unity called Nigeria would have been shredded into pieces...
Re: Akpata, Sans Kick As Northern Lawyers Form Parallel NBA by frankyychiji: 4:36pm On Aug 29, 2020
kikero:
Yes, your idea makes some sense. If people can see that there's no more X from tribe Y to blame, it might work.

But on the other hand, the issue with corruption in Africa is that the corrupt do a lot of good in their home communities. So prosecuting them is like prosecuting the local star. Add the fact that many of the people who propose dividing Nigeria usually end up with countries that are dominated by one big tribe and many minorities , and before long the same problem happens

Then, the fact is, Africa gets money from selling raw materials, not from industries like China and Japan do. So , politicians are not necessarily incentivised to make sure things run well...

Especially when regardless of if there is light or no light, money from oil or agriculture is coming in. So, I loot and chop and the money keeps coming. If prices fall, we take loans
Then you know nothing about the gains of the past when there was Regionalism and no oil.
Re: Akpata, Sans Kick As Northern Lawyers Form Parallel NBA by NaMeAboki: 4:37pm On Aug 29, 2020
TooMuchStuff:
Stupid move by Bokoharam Quota system Lawyers
Na una way or no way at all. Fools.
Useless incompetent lawyers that are only visible in Fed and state govts arenas.

Legal Almajiris that think backwards all the time.

Bokoharam commanding Govnor is bankrolling their agenda to imposing Sharia Lawyers on the rest of us. Koole werkk...!
Bitter hateful pained Nyamiri, spreading malicious propaganda as usual; no doubt sourced from the IPOB Bureau of Statistics.

Re: Akpata, Sans Kick As Northern Lawyers Form Parallel NBA by Coldie: 4:38pm On Aug 29, 2020
Amah70:
So a tribe which has led Nigeria is a prize for the tribe, abi? Those tribes - Hausa/Fulani and Yoruba - that have led Nigeria - where did they lead Nigeria to, in the presence of the current ugly situation of Nigeria? Develop more sense.
If not for tribalism that's disturbing Buhari, Buhari is the best president Nigeria has ever had
Re: Akpata, Sans Kick As Northern Lawyers Form Parallel NBA by Nobody: 4:39pm On Aug 29, 2020
Brandstudio01:
It's obvious something is certainly wrong with this country.

This is definitely not the Nigeria our fathers died for
Seems to me we are living in 2 countries in one Republic.
We are and that's the truth. North and south.

North don't even see southerners as their fellow country men. It is the south that is always doing everything possible to see the north as part of the same country. The earlier we just accept what is and do something about it the better.
Re: Akpata, Sans Kick As Northern Lawyers Form Parallel NBA by frankyychiji: 4:39pm On Aug 29, 2020
Coldie:
I don't want Nigeria to suffer refugee problem, cause after Biafra is created all if u will leave Biafra and run to Nigeria
Hahahaha.. even when the zoo is dotted with Idps in its length and breath grin
Goan look for something to eat abeg grin
Re: Akpata, Sans Kick As Northern Lawyers Form Parallel NBA by frankyychiji: 4:40pm On Aug 29, 2020
Coldie:
There's nothing wrong with our unitary system.

The only problem is where country is generating the money and 70% of government projects are sites in one region
So how do you make it stop without the offending region terming it as bias and bigotry?
Re: Akpata, Sans Kick As Northern Lawyers Form Parallel NBA by Yeobadi311: 4:43pm On Aug 29, 2020
see below
Re: Akpata, Sans Kick As Northern Lawyers Form Parallel NBA by Nobody: 4:45pm On Aug 29, 2020
frankyychiji:
Then you know nothing about the gains of the past when there was Regionalism and no oil.
Regionalism did not work

Most regions had large underdeveloped areas. Plus they were all dependent on selling agricultural products to the UK, a market that collapsed in the 1970s when the UK economy took a bit (New Zealand that used to live on agriculture like Nigeria had severe economic crisis in the 1970s when England stopped buying their sheep products).

If the regions had been around in the 1970s and Nigeria had no oil, we would have been as broke as Ghana was then.

Plus, if the regions were really working, why the agitation for states?

All of the regions prospered because in the 1960s the UK had enough cash to buy our produce. There was no competition from elsewhere. By the 1990s, other countries had gotten better at producing the things we used to produce. If the regions still existed then , they would have been broke.
Re: Akpata, Sans Kick As Northern Lawyers Form Parallel NBA by VULCAN(m): 4:45pm On Aug 29, 2020
It's obvious that you are one of them

El Rufai wasn't the only northerner invited.

That puts paid to you peoples lame excuse.

One day Southern Nigeria will be free of you people's yoke

kikero:
Fallout

All in all, the problem with the El rufai ban was the optics of the thing. It looked too much like an antinorthern thing and too less like a principled stand for good governance.

The annoying thing about it for me was that it also looked like the NBA was applying purity tests .

Having said that, my takeaway is not that el rufai was right;the guy has not handled the security issue or the minority rights issues in his state well, but that we are so inconsistent in this country.

Like Reno focusing on the corruption in APC while keeping quiet about the corruption in PDP and vice versa for people like Femi adesina and garba shehu.

Modified

Looking at the comments on the site, it seems like most Southerners think that their mercedes Benz is bigger than the Northern ones...
Re: Akpata, Sans Kick As Northern Lawyers Form Parallel NBA by MajorOvakporaye(f): 4:49pm On Aug 29, 2020
favor914:
Just imagine the rubbish you just stated, people are trying to unite, you are preaching & promoting propaganda & hate? You are not any better than the People you are purportedly slandering, charcoal calling electric kettle black? Hypocrite.
SHUT UP THERE!!!
Re: Akpata, Sans Kick As Northern Lawyers Form Parallel NBA by Coldie: 4:50pm On Aug 29, 2020
thotsofnaij:
We are and that's the truth. North and south.

North don't even see southerners as their fellow country men. It is the south that is always doing everything possible to see the north as part of the same country. The earlier we just accept what is and do something about it the better.
Which day I go Abuja, somebody from Niger republic dae challenge me, u won't believe the side my fellow country men from the other side choose to support.

They choose a Nigerien over me coz he speaks hausa
Re: Akpata, Sans Kick As Northern Lawyers Form Parallel NBA by ORIAYO70(m): 4:53pm On Aug 29, 2020
Brandstudio01:
It's obvious something is certainly wrong with this country.

This is definitely not the Nigeria our fathers died for
Seems to me we are living in 2 countries in one Republic.
My brother due to my personal research what is see in not as if Nigeria has a problem, but the problem is Having North as part of Nigeria..

If you give north Christianity then you see how lovable northers are,but the other one serving unforgivable god r d nightmare of my country
Re: Akpata, Sans Kick As Northern Lawyers Form Parallel NBA by Nobody: 4:53pm On Aug 29, 2020
VULCAN:
It's obvious that you are one of them

El Rufai wasn't the only northerner invited.

That puts paid to you peoples lame excuse.

One day Southern Nigeria will be free of you people's yoke
Well, I am a Southerner and a Christian to boot and for the record I agree with the ban on el rufai.

What I don't agree with is the optics of the ban. The ban appeared to target elrufai based on his region, and the NBA handled the fallout badly, making them look like bigots.

Also, the NBA banned elrifal but invited wike, whose government isn't a model of good either, and Buhari as well, whose antecedents precede him.

If the NBA wanted to stand for good governance, then stand for good governance

As it is, the damage has been done. As for the Northern NBA, they are clearly overreacting and refusing to listen, even to those of their members who backed the ban on the first place.
Re: Akpata, Sans Kick As Northern Lawyers Form Parallel NBA by donprinyo(m): 5:00pm On Aug 29, 2020
Religion of olden days should be scrapped with immediate effect.
Re: Akpata, Sans Kick As Northern Lawyers Form Parallel NBA by Tissaia(f): 5:00pm On Aug 29, 2020
JidennaJason:
Another clear example to tell you that the northerners are always in a "REVERSE MODE"

They see Akpata as a threat to their "Shari'a" type of law.

It would be difficult for us to move forward as a nation when we have this backward thinking people at the helms of affair.
kutumar ubanka banza shege Dan kwaya
Re: Akpata, Sans Kick As Northern Lawyers Form Parallel NBA by Coldie: 5:03pm On Aug 29, 2020
kikero:
Well, I am a Southerner and a Christian to boot and for the record I agree with the ban on el rufai.

What I don't agree with is the optics of the ban. The ban appeared to target elrufai based on his region, and the NBA handled the fallout badly, making them look like bigots.

Also, the NBA banned elrifal but invited wike, whose government isn't a model of good either, and Buhari as well, whose antecedents precede him.

If the NBA wanted to stand for good governance, then stand for good governance

As it is, the damage has been done. As for the Northern NBA, they are clearly overreacting and refusing to listen, even to those of their members who backed the ban on the first place.
Let us talk reasonably, tell me what is wikes offense?

Apart from the covid19 demolition which was smhw legal, tell me his offense.

Enlighten us we would like to know
Re: Akpata, Sans Kick As Northern Lawyers Form Parallel NBA by Nobody: 5:03pm On Aug 29, 2020
Tissaia:
kutumar ubanka banza shege Dan kwaya
Shege Dan Iska...


Akuya.
Re: Akpata, Sans Kick As Northern Lawyers Form Parallel NBA by Coldie: 5:05pm On Aug 29, 2020
Oracleforce:
If the association of lawyers or liars who suppose to be the hope of common men and custodians of our constitutions formed a splinter group and are in disarray what is now the hope for the country?
Folks, the truth must be told....let the nation do the needful...Nigeria is not one. there are so many things that divide us than what binds us together.
Let's deliver ourselves from this protracted and prolonged lies have caused a lot of devastating effects on the growth and development of the nation...
Let the northerners embrace their Sharia law while the southerners embrace our democratic Constitution...it is high time we told ourselves the truth...nothing join us together except lie and sentiment...
I know for sure that before 2030 the fraud country and unity called Nigeria would have been shredded into pieces...
2030 Nigeria still dae 100% by that time Africans will start flooding Nigeria for citizenship
Re: Akpata, Sans Kick As Northern Lawyers Form Parallel NBA by Nobody: 5:07pm On Aug 29, 2020
Coldie:
Let us talk reasonably, tell me what is wikes offense?

Apart from the covid19 demolition which was smhw legal, tell me his offense.

Enlighten us we would like to know
Poor security, just like elrufai.

Also, he did.make.some.inflammatory comments like the man elrufai.(Involving a cutlass and the opposition).
Re: Akpata, Sans Kick As Northern Lawyers Form Parallel NBA by Wize1: 5:09pm On Aug 29, 2020
VULCAN:
It's obvious that you are one of them

El Rufai wasn't the only northerner invited.

That puts paid to you peoples lame excuse.

One day Southern Nigeria will be free of you people's yoke
I was just waiting for someone to say this! The poster you replied was trying so hard to act like he/she isn’t taking sides, but after a few post where he failed to answer the simple question: what is the actual justification for a threat or secession by Northern lawyers ? It jumped out as she kept blaming the NBA for being anti-north for dis-inviting El Rufai. That was it for me tbh.

The fact is, it is the NBA’s prerogative to disqualify anyone (including El Rufai), especially as it is justified giving the ethnic and religious cleansing going on under his watch. Now, seeing this act purely from the point of view of an attack on Northerners is exactly the stuff of bigotry. The said poster, El Rufai and the Northern lawyers are complicit. Even if you have grievances, as members of NBA, there are internal mechanisms to address this, but as the bigots that they are (themselves, and their sponsor the Gov), they had to make it about religion and tribe. If everyone belonging to an organised national body threatens secession at every slight disagreement, how will we have a country? Pence was dis-invited last week in the US, heavens didn’t fall, neither did he make it about ethnicity, religion, nor go about sponsoring secession.
Re: Akpata, Sans Kick As Northern Lawyers Form Parallel NBA by executive12: 5:13pm On Aug 29, 2020
They should go further by engineering the secession of the North from Nigeria so that the country can move forward.
Re: Akpata, Sans Kick As Northern Lawyers Form Parallel NBA by Nobody: 5:13pm On Aug 29, 2020
Wize1:
I was just waiting for someone to say this! The poster you replied was trying so hard to act like he/she isn’t taking sides, but after a few post where he failed to answer the simple question: what is the actual justification for a threat or secession by Northern lawyers ? It jumped out as she kept blaming the NBA for being anti-north for de-inviting El Rufai. That was it for me tbh.

The fact is, it is the NBA’s prerogative to disqualify anyone (including El Rufai), especially as it is justified giving the ethnic and religious cleansing going on under his watch. Now, seeing this act purely from the point of view of an attack on Northerners is exactly the stuff of bigotry. The said poster, El Rufai and the Northern lawyers are complicit. Even if you have grievances, as members of NBA, there are internal mechanisms to address this, but as the bigots that they are (themselves, and their sponsor the Gov), they had to make it about religion and tribe. Pence was dis-invited last week in the US, heavens didn’t fall, neither did he go about sponsoring secession.
That's what you think.

What I actually think is that the NBA should be more consistent.

I happen to agree with the ban on elrufai, and I am also aware that the ban had support across several states and religions.

The problem I have is the optics of the ban, and the fact that potential fallout was not handled well,. especially in these ultratribalist times.
Re: Akpata, Sans Kick As Northern Lawyers Form Parallel NBA by Coldie: 5:15pm On Aug 29, 2020
kikero:
Poor security, just like elrufai.

Also, he did.make.some.inflammatory comments like the man elrufai.(Involving a cutlass and the opposition).
U are deviating and I want us to go through with this discussion.

Poor security?

Is wike in charge of the police?

Are u aware of how many times rivers state commissioner of police has clashed with wike, so much that any commissioner of police in wike that's seems to be wike friendly would be removed?


The last major killings in rivers state that happened at omoku by don't wanny are u aware that police was doing their normal nonchalant attitude to anything until wike put a bounty of #200million on don wannys head before the police decided to act, in less than one week after the bounty police killed don wanny?

So if wike didn't put up that bounty police for allow am to dae kill dae go?

Wike is trying to stop security problems in rivers state by making sure there's ospac in almost every community in rivers state right from his own Pocket, the same police that even with them in security is high is fighting wike saying ospac can't bear arms, if ospac can't bear arms what are they doing then traffic work?

Let us argue reasonably tell me about wikes offense I want to know, tell me with proof. You only saw a pic of him with Cutlass but did u watch the interview of the video?

Re: Akpata, Sans Kick As Northern Lawyers Form Parallel NBA by idahme(m): 5:17pm On Aug 29, 2020
You see the reason why it will take Nigeria centuries to become a first world nation. If the so called 'educated ' can exhibit legendary ethnic biase like this, imagine what will exude from the common man on the street. This country is really a shot hole according to POTUS.
Re: Akpata, Sans Kick As Northern Lawyers Form Parallel NBA by Nobody: 5:18pm On Aug 29, 2020
Coldie:
U are deviating and I want us to go through with this discussion.

Poor security?

Is wike in charge of the police?

Are u aware of how many times rivers state commissioner of police has clashed with wike, so much that any commissioner of police in wike that's seems to be wike friendly would be removed?


The last major killings in rivers state that happened at omoku by don't wanny are u aware that police was doing their normal nonchalant attitude to anything until wike put a bounty of #200million on don wannys head before the police decided to act, in less than one week after the bounty police killed don wanny?

So if wike didn't put up that bounty police for allow am to dae kill dae go?

Wike is trying to stop security problems in rivers state by making sure there's ospac in almost every community in rivers state right from his own Pocket, the same police that even with them in security is high is fighting wike saying ospac can't bear arms, if ospac can't bear arms what are they doing then traffic work?

Let us argue reasonably tell me about wikes offense I want to know, tell me with proof
El rufai too is not incharge of the police in Kaduna either

Plus he did host peace meetings on the issue by the way.

Either way neither of them had any business near the NBA conference.

You are justifying bad governance from.wike because he is a Southerner. Just as some justify bad governance from elrufai because he is a Northerner.

As for me, tribe or religion I do not see. I judge people by the content of their character
Re: Akpata, Sans Kick As Northern Lawyers Form Parallel NBA by Gamesmart: 5:18pm On Aug 29, 2020
At least, we all know which NBA will contain more intellectuals, more qualified members and more members.
Re: Akpata, Sans Kick As Northern Lawyers Form Parallel NBA by Fash20: 5:20pm On Aug 29, 2020
Brandstudio01:
It's obvious something is certainly wrong with this country.

This is definitely not the Nigeria our fathers died for
Seems to me we are living in 2 countries in one Republic.
I see Nigeria as a continent that has countries in it... every country fighting for its own interests.
Re: Akpata, Sans Kick As Northern Lawyers Form Parallel NBA by Coldie: 5:23pm On Aug 29, 2020
kikero:
That's what you think.

What I actually think is that the NBA should be more consistent.

I happen to agree with the ban on elrufai, and I am also aware that the ban had support across several states and religions.

The problem I have is the optics of the ban, and the fact that potential fallout was not handled well,. especially in these ultratribalist times.
If not for tribalism there's nothing wrong with the ban.

Almost every year we hear about killings in southern kaduna, we heard about it upper year, heard about it last year, we heard about it earlier this year it's becoming a normal thing Asif it's goats that are been killed.

The governor of the state since he has the fg in his pocket, he was invited to speak in a conference a group of lawyers majorly from the region the killings always take place push for a petition that he must not speak in the conference citing his poor handling of the killings in the southern region of kaduna, the petition gathered lots of signatories and like a democracy it was uplheld, and u want the NBA to over look it and go against the wish of the majority cause he is from the north?


How many southern states have u ever heard that a genocide was going on and the governor is acting like it's not his concern?

And u are here comparing him to wike
Re: Akpata, Sans Kick As Northern Lawyers Form Parallel NBA by Chinny024(f): 5:24pm On Aug 29, 2020
One Nigeria can hold a sand..We should kukuma go separate ways... grin
Re: Akpata, Sans Kick As Northern Lawyers Form Parallel NBA by Jdbrasco2: 5:28pm On Aug 29, 2020
They have right to exit NBA just like Biafra is agitating for freedom. Its in human nature to protect your interest. Anyway NBA is more of a political organization these days.
Re: Akpata, Sans Kick As Northern Lawyers Form Parallel NBA by goldmatrix(m): 5:28pm On Aug 29, 2020
...this is the right time to severe the country. We have all seen everything..
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