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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 6:02pm On Aug 29, 2020
Goal ball!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nezzjnr: 6:03pm On Aug 29, 2020
donjazet:


He's a Muslim, nothing wrong with pointing it out.
I'm just curious to know what he thinks about this issue.

Sincerely only God knows how this our country is holding together. It's clear we have different sides that are just too different from each other in almost every metric. And no one knows how we can even begin to find a common ground and common ideal. It's a pity.
Trust me.... I've really lost hope in this country

The Southern Kaduna crisis is another thing again

I hope we are bracing ourselves up for another Northern rule

Those guys are not ready to shift power to the South


Tell me that Picture isn't True

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by TalabiAudu: 6:03pm On Aug 29, 2020
nihilistjnr:


Arteta played under Moyes don't forget


grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nezzjnr: 6:03pm On Aug 29, 2020
Chai


Pressure don burst
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nezzjnr: 6:03pm On Aug 29, 2020
izzou:


Is there a God?
Izuchukwu off your mic.... Issokay cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by TalabiAudu: 6:03pm On Aug 29, 2020
Make this match kuku go penarity straight jare
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 6:04pm On Aug 29, 2020
Liverpool with a late winner?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 6:17pm On Aug 29, 2020
Nezzjnr:

Trust me.... I've really lost hope in this country

The Southern Kaduna crisis is another thing again

I hope we are bracing ourselves up for another Northern rule

Those guys are not ready to shift power to the South
Tell me that Picture isn't True
Sadly, it is what it is, we live in a country that is supposed to be "secular", yet the country's top legal mind wishes to impose a religious system on the country. embarassed

My problem isn't really where the candidate comes from, it is about the ideology and ideals of the candidate. Will the person put faith, tribe and religion over nationality??

For instance, someone like lamido sanusi was clearly a progressive, speaking against some of the archaic practices and belligerence of his people, He spoke against the child marriage issue, against the almajiri culture, against the rigidity of their religion. A shame he was eventually silenced.
But if there were more people in the Ideological mould of sanusi, I really wouldn't mind.

Furthermore, the south would have themselves to blame if the north should retain power. The inability of a better educated south to form an unholy alliance is mind boggling. The easterners and westerners have chosen to perpetually be at logger heads with one another and that is just plainly foolish. No one can blame the north if they continue to capitalize on this to rule.

Sincerely Nigeria's problems get too many branches.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nezzjnr: 6:23pm On Aug 29, 2020
donjazet:


My problem isn't really where the candidate comes from, it is about the ideology and ideals of the candidate. Will the person put faith, tribe and religion over nationality??

For instance, someone like lamido sanusi was clearly a progressive, speaking against some of the archaic practices and belligerence of his people, He spoke against the child marriage issue, against the almajiri culture, against the rigidity of their religion. A shame he was eventually silenced.
But if there were more people in the Ideological mould of sanusi, I really wouldn't mind.

Furthermore, the south would have themselves to blame if the north should retain power. The inability of a better educated south to form an unholy alliance is mind boggling. The easterners and westerners have chosen to perpetually be at logger heads with one another and that is just plainly foolish. No one can blame the north if they continue to capitalize on this to rule.

Sincerely Nigeria's problems get too many branches.
Sanusi has proven to be a bigot in a way too

His actions has shown that even though he's learned

He's a close friend to Elrufai... The renowned Religious and tribal bigot

If the west and east can't unite.... SS should be up to the rescue then

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 6:33pm On Aug 29, 2020
Wow Arteta two trophies
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by SeekinAttention(f): 6:42pm On Aug 29, 2020
Arteta >>>>>>>>>>>>> Lampard

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by macjireh: 6:43pm On Aug 29, 2020
OJURONGBE1:


Arteta has totally deviate from Arsenal style of play. Na park the bus and hit on the counter him dey play since him join them. grin
Which begs the question, where did he learn this tactics from? Guardiola has never played this way.
d same way Frankie should have played wen we almost fell out of top4...Now arteta is using it to beat big teams,, eye don clear
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by SeekinAttention(f): 6:50pm On Aug 29, 2020
Arteta schooling Lampard on how to win another final.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamoyindamola(m): 6:50pm On Aug 29, 2020
donjazet:


No, that is not the main political issue in Nigeria right now. This is;
https://www.nairaland.com/6085374/muslim-lawyers-association-nigeria-endorses-deathpenalty
Your religion and it's legal adherents has just endorsed the legal death penalty of a man who "blasphemed". At least you are a reasonable and moderate Moslem, do you support their stance on this?
Do you think one should be legally killed for speaking against Mohammed?
Go and ask them not me grin
You must be high on some cheap rum if you think I will engage you in some back and forth bullshít.
Kano is near by, go there and protest your point and also force your opinion on them
Radarada

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamoyindamola(m): 6:53pm On Aug 29, 2020
Nezzjnr:

You wouldn't have used this term though

Back to the Issue.... Why is The FG silent on this issue??

Why did they block access to his lawyers??

Why can't they allow Allah to fight his cause??

Sometimes I feel tempted to blame Lugard
Person way no well
Always trying to provoke his opponent in arguement
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by SeekinAttention(f): 6:54pm On Aug 29, 2020
iamoyindamola:

Person way no well
Always trying to provoke his opponent in arguement


Change your signature.

Mumu Sodiq

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by pamcode(m): 6:57pm On Aug 29, 2020
Two trophies in one month. Not bad for Arsenal.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nezzjnr: 7:00pm On Aug 29, 2020
iamoyindamola:

Person way no well
Always trying to provoke his opponent in arguement
Typical Donj cheesy grin cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamoyindamola(m): 7:09pm On Aug 29, 2020
SeekinAttention:



Change your signature.

Mumu Sodiq
Change your gender Omo Ase
Fagman

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by SeekinAttention(f): 7:10pm On Aug 29, 2020
iamoyindamola:

Change your gender Omo Ase
Fagman


Sodiq, omo ale.
Up Gunners, make we fuçk tonight to celebrate naa

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamoyindamola(m): 7:19pm On Aug 29, 2020
SeekinAttention:



Sodiq, omo ale.
Up Gunners, make we fuçk tonight to celebrate naa
Donj is waiting for you
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by weedtaker: 7:26pm On Aug 29, 2020
grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by MaziAlaye(m): 7:29pm On Aug 29, 2020
SeekinAttention:
Arteta >>>>>>>>>>>>> Lampard
Lampard is not even average he's just bad tbh. No sense of play or structure and he's biased too. Arteta is just making the best out of what he's got. As soon as he gets a few better midfielders and defenders who can play in a 4 atb system he'll play that fluent attacking style.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 7:34pm On Aug 29, 2020
iamoyindamola:

Go and ask them not me grin
You must be high on some cheap rum if you think I will engage you in some back and forth bullshít.
Kano is near by, go there and protest your point and also force your opinion on them
Radarada
iamoyindamola:

Person way no well
Always trying to provoke his opponent in arguement

I come in peace damola. Calm down, no need for your vituperation and hyperventilation.
It's typical for one who has no defense of his actions or belief to deflect and engage in argumentum ad hominem.

I called you out because you said we should rather focus on our problems here and it just so happens that the biggest problem we have now is one of which you are affiliated with, heck dare i say a part of. the religion of which you are a part of is on path of conquest.

Your religion seeks to silence all forms of opposition and subjugate all to it's will in a society that is supposed to be secular and free.
I did suppose that you and many other moderate Muslims might not share in such hardline radical stances, one where someone should be killed legally by the state for "blasphemy" but all your silences only further embolden the radicals amongst you.

Did I really do bad by calling you out and hoping that you damola, who I presume to be a reasonable moderate Muslim will speak against such radicalism and barbarity so that you might influence other Muslim readers in your own way. Tell me, did I really do bad?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 7:34pm On Aug 29, 2020
donjazet:


This issue have been rehashed severally.
The US is a country whereby a black man there can do everything right and still be killed by a cop.


Yes, the 2nd amendment rights makes the situation more dire but the problem IS NOT BECAUSE of the 2nd amendment, it is simply a factor of the problem.
Afterall, there are other advanced countries with high civilian ownership of guns where we don't constantly see this crass violence or worse so this disproportionate violence, for instance Canada,
Switzerland and most of the Nordic countries allow and have a high degree of gun ownership in their society, yet we don't constantly see the school shootings or high rate of gun violence.

Your argument is devoid of facts, stats and as is the case with most of these arguments, laden with emotion rather than rationale.

Premise 1: You say the problem is not guns but racism, using Canada as an example.

- In 2019, 25% of Police killings in US were black vs 12.5% of the population (ie a Police killing is 2x more likely to be a black man than the aevrage population spread)

- In Canada, 9.3% of Police killings were black vs 3.4% of the population (ie a Canadian Police killing is 3x more likely to be a black man than the average population spread)



Are Canada Police more racist than US Police?


Premise 2 - You say the problem is not second amendment, using Canada as an example

2019 - deaths from Police in USA - 1,004 from 363 million guns in private circulation (prevalence rate of 1 death per 363,000 guns in circulation)

2018 - deaths from Police in Canada - 57 from 13 million guns in private circulation (prevalence rate of 1 police killing per 228,000 guns in circulation)

Vast majority of deaths in both countries are from weapon incidents

Conclusion - Canada Police kill more people on average per gunholders, and more black people as a percentage of population spread

Sidenote - Canadian gun ownership is low (35%) due to stricter laws than US that require two week background check and limit the no of rounds per gun unlike USA. Also guns must be kept at home in Canada unless you are going to the shooting range, and you cannot make a stop on your way to the range.


Premise 3 - lets test the hypothesis that guns is not the problem by comparing Canada against UK

Canada - 57 Police killings per year from population of 38 million people

UK - Zero to three Police killings per year from population of 67 million people


Key difference - UK Police do not carry guns unlike Canadian Police


The above establishes 3 things that disprove your theory, using your Angel country Canada as a base for comparison:

1. Canada Police disproportionally kill more black people than US Police per population spread
2. US killings are not disproportionate to Canada per gun ownership, infact lower
3. Clearly, presence of Guns are the reason for the wide disparity between Police Killings in Canada vs Police killings in Great Britain.

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There are racists in the Police force, same as in every sector of Society. There are racists in UK and Europe Police also (but no killings thanks to lack of guns).

However, what I want to challenge is your narrative that the Police is a bastion for murderers who want to kill black people. What will make a racist who wants to kill black people think the Police force is the place to carry out such agenda? Lets examine using Human Psychology

1 - The minute you kill a black man unjustly, your Police career is over (no more opportunity to kill blacks). Obviously this is not appealing to someone whose intention is the murder of black people.

2 - Vast majority of black deaths are in Urban areas where many of your superiors will be black (whether Sergeant, Luitenant, DPO or Chief of Police). Obviously black people are well entrenched in power in the Police forces where most killings take place, so how is that an establishment where a would-be racist murderer would feel comfortable killing blacks with impunity without running into a black superior who will put brakes on his career as a racist killer.

3 - Why would you choose a profession (Police) to kill blacks where as soon as you do so, your cover will be exposed in all National media, you lose the ability to kill more, you lose your source of income, move away from your home, and have to watch your back for the rest of your life.

Do any of the above fit what would drive a would-be racist murderer to choose the Police force to carry out his agenda of killing blacks? Human Psychology does not support such rationale.



Point, blank, period - from all the statistics I have seen, US Police are even trying to keep casualties low in such a hyperweaponised society. I will not join in anarchy that does not stem from facts and rationale. I bet if you give UK Police guns, and give UK population guns, UK Police will have higher error percentage and be more trigger happy than their US counterparts, because they don't have experience of such dicey situations.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Segedinho(m): 7:36pm On Aug 29, 2020
MaziAlaye:

Lampard is not even average he's just bad tbh. No sense of play or structure and he's biased too. Arteta is just making the best out of what he's got. As soon as he gets a few better midfielders and defenders who can play in a 4 atb system he'll play that fluent attacking style.
We get ur point

One got top 4 with 0 budget

The other won FA cup.

Check the one u would prefer

embarassed kiss

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamoyindamola(m): 7:39pm On Aug 29, 2020
donjazet:



I come in peace damola. Calm down, no need for your vituperation and hyperventilation.
It's typical for one who has no defense of his actions or belief to deflect and engage in argumentatum ad hominem.

I called you out because you said we should rather focus on our problems here and it just so happens that the biggest problem we have now is one of which you are affiliated with, heck dare i say a part of. the religion of which you are a part of is on path of conquest.

Your religion seeks to silence all forms of opposition and subjugate all to it's will in a society that is supposed to be secular and free.
I did suppose that you and many other moderate Muslims might not share in such hardline radical stances, one where someone should be killed legally by the state for "blasphemy" but all your silences only further embolden the radicals amongst you.

Did I really do bad by calling you out and hoping that you damola, who I presume to be a reasonable moderate Muslim will speak against such radicalism and barbarity so that you might influence other Muslim readers in your own way. Tell me, did I really do bad?
Calling me out for what
Don't be an hypocrite, go to Kano call them out
Protest the nonsense they are doing, by that you will make a difference.
But coming here speaking plenty English is opkutu meow meow, they don't change anything.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 7:52pm On Aug 29, 2020
grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by eph12(m): 7:53pm On Aug 29, 2020
So chelshit went to buy a cross merchant and they are calling it creativity grin cheesy
Na here we dey cheesy

https://twitter.com/LSComps/status/1299729027859656712?s=19
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Segedinho(m): 8:02pm On Aug 29, 2020
eph12:
So chelshit went to buy a cross merchant and they are calling it creativity grin cheesy
Na here we dey cheesy

https://twitter.com/LSComps/status/1299729027859656712?s=19
This tears is too sudden and fast.


Ziyech go really mk catarrh comot from una eyes sha??

Dey neva even break, ...see tears everywhere.


Na so the pass accuracy sweet u reach

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nezzjnr: 8:02pm On Aug 29, 2020
eph12:
So chelshit went to buy a cross merchant and they are calling it creativity grin cheesy
Na here we dey cheesy

https://twitter.com/LSComps/status/1299729027859656712?s=19

https://twitter.com/UtdLew/status/1299727524621160448?s=19

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Segedinho(m): 8:04pm On Aug 29, 2020
Nezzjnr:


https://twitter.com/UtdLew/status/1299727524621160448?s=19

Take a look at this abeg lipsrsealed
This 1 funny small sha

My no lie

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