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Re: How Real Are Things Like 'Odeshí', 'Juju', 'Otumorkpor' In Nigeria/Africa? by IMAliyu(m): 7:07pm On Sep 05, 2020
Blitzerz:

Well, that's from the experience of many people who have tried desperately to be like them.
But failed.
Those guys were not getting ideas from this world.
Fry your brains out till tomorrow, those ideas won't come to you.

Even The Elon Musk you mentioned earlier once concluded that the ancient pyramids of Egypt were built by aliens.
Why do you think he must have such conclusion?
Ah ok I think I get where you're coming from.

Well highly creative and intelligent people can have 'out there' ideas sometimes. Elon even thinks this reality is a computer simulation.

I have my disagreement and reservation with their ideas coming from a spiritual place, but this is up for discussion and is related to the topic of the origin of consciousness and where our thoughts even come from.

I view it as more of the natural variations that occur in nature, like how not everyone is equally naturally attractive, smart, fast, strong, creative or more. That kind of thing.
Because if any group or species overspecializes it breads in weakness and can easily be wiped out if the environment changes. So I see this as more of an adaption by nature for humans to be born different in various ways. Like most of us can train all our lives and never been as fast as Usain bolt or fight like Muhammad Ali, or create good music like some classic artist and there is nothing supernatural about that.
To be successful in life it's often a combination of natural born skill, hard work and lots of luck.

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Re: How Real Are Things Like 'Odeshí', 'Juju', 'Otumorkpor' In Nigeria/Africa? by MrColdsweat: 7:08pm On Sep 05, 2020
od501:


My broda, I laugh at people who tag these things fetish. In Onitsha 2004 during the days if MOSSOB, menh...police shoot gun taya! Army blow machine gun taya! Na guerilla squad from Abj come settle the matter oo with their own otumokpo...menhh...army get grade ooo...this ones are not just dark in complexion, they are charcoal in complexion, with a padlock key logged in their mouth. I was there live and direct, there was this small boy, about 11 years of age called nwababy (cos they hanged a doll on his neck). They (MOSSOB) placed him in forefront with about 40-50 MOSSOB members behind him with "cataports), omoh....no bullet no matter how big dey cross that boy; all the hundreds and thousands of shots fired by security forces falled on that boy. Menhhh...make I stop here shaa...but know this, juju, and odiashi is super real! Bleep scientific explanations!

The fools up there talking nonsense are waiting for the whiteman to come down to our shrines in Africa to study our juju and put it in a textbook for them to read.
Re: How Real Are Things Like 'Odeshí', 'Juju', 'Otumorkpor' In Nigeria/Africa? by luminouz(m): 7:14pm On Sep 05, 2020
sonnie10:


Although I was a child then, I had my ears to ground. There were rumors then that the soldiers were specially picked. The Ogas and among themselves, they knew soldiers that combined some unofficial "strength and powers" in addition to their training. Those were the ones called into the firing squad. Their shots were believed to be more potent.

Hmmm....cool...

Its a case of juju vs juju
Re: How Real Are Things Like 'Odeshí', 'Juju', 'Otumorkpor' In Nigeria/Africa? by luminouz(m): 7:14pm On Sep 05, 2020
SirMichael1:
You squirrel! I'll have your blood tonight and maybe some meatpies or you've got any suggestions? I'll have your blood non the less. grin grin

Yen yen yen


*rolling eyes*
Re: How Real Are Things Like 'Odeshí', 'Juju', 'Otumorkpor' In Nigeria/Africa? by ednut1(m): 7:16pm On Sep 05, 2020
Nooil:


Have you ever taken your time to read about the Benin massacre before the expedition? Do you even know how the expedition happened and why it was successful?
i no get your time. Abeg
Re: How Real Are Things Like 'Odeshí', 'Juju', 'Otumorkpor' In Nigeria/Africa? by Kay25(m): 7:18pm On Sep 05, 2020
The fact is they are real nut what it takes for you to have a genuine one is what most of them can't go through 2 too many fake people 3 of who are the ones seeking this kind of charms?usually the bad ones not the good people that's why most times it fails them.even a good Christian with adequate knowledge of God's word bullet can't pierce you if it does it can't kill you as far as it is not yet your time
Re: How Real Are Things Like 'Odeshí', 'Juju', 'Otumorkpor' In Nigeria/Africa? by Anny505(m): 7:18pm On Sep 05, 2020
Cowards everywhere

Common to hit me up make them prove show you say juju dey, una dey fear. Bastards
Re: How Real Are Things Like 'Odeshí', 'Juju', 'Otumorkpor' In Nigeria/Africa? by rolams(m): 7:19pm On Sep 05, 2020
fratermathy:
I am not saying that juju exists or it doesn't. I do not agree or disagree with whatever I have not truly seen in action. In all my years, I am yet to actually see a verifiable instance of such juju actually working. I only hear stories and anecdotes.

Since I cannot verify the efficacy of juju, I cannot say if it exists or not. However, if it does exist, why haven't we all seen objective proof of its existence, especially in this day and age when things can easily land on the internet?

It's real.
Re: How Real Are Things Like 'Odeshí', 'Juju', 'Otumorkpor' In Nigeria/Africa? by Nobody: 7:22pm On Sep 05, 2020
ednut1:
i no get your time. Abeg

You had better. Read it up, perhaps it will change your downgrading view of your ancestors.
Re: How Real Are Things Like 'Odeshí', 'Juju', 'Otumorkpor' In Nigeria/Africa? by Fash20: 7:23pm On Sep 05, 2020
webmaster99:


to let you know without babalawo.
then you are waisting your time doing yahoo

white man dey send money to gee boys no be with their clear eyes ooo!
there is voodoo or juju involved

dey there... you still a learner.
Re: How Real Are Things Like 'Odeshí', 'Juju', 'Otumorkpor' In Nigeria/Africa? by spaceacademy(m): 7:24pm On Sep 05, 2020
it is real. metaphysics implies paranormal.my parent narrated the story of agbekoya. the good book talks about principalities,darkness,powers, rulers
Re: How Real Are Things Like 'Odeshí', 'Juju', 'Otumorkpor' In Nigeria/Africa? by ediko5(m): 7:31pm On Sep 05, 2020
Yeah juju, jars etc do exist.

Just like powers and wealth have levels and limits, juju have limits it can protects. For instance I doubt if gun odeshi can protect one from grenade or mine explosion at the war front.

Another reason may be that the juju have rules and regulations guiding it's usage but some users don't follow it.

All the same, I've never used one before but I've seen drug sellers perform odeshi using rings and beads on other people.
Re: How Real Are Things Like 'Odeshí', 'Juju', 'Otumorkpor' In Nigeria/Africa? by Penflame(m): 7:32pm On Sep 05, 2020
I'll be back to continue from where I stopped.
Re: How Real Are Things Like 'Odeshí', 'Juju', 'Otumorkpor' In Nigeria/Africa? by executive12: 7:38pm On Sep 05, 2020
BadRadio:
A priest prays to God for protection. An armed robber meets baba for protection.

Robber shoots priest and he dies.

SARZ shoots armed robber, bullet bounces off and robber shouts "Odeshí" and ran away with his loot. cheesy


can someone explain that to me pls?grin

Yeah right. How come that the same armed robbers who the SARS supposedly could not kill because of the so called odeshi, eventually get killed when confronted by soldiers?
Re: How Real Are Things Like 'Odeshí', 'Juju', 'Otumorkpor' In Nigeria/Africa? by elmas(m): 7:45pm On Sep 05, 2020
Na India get juju pass
Re: How Real Are Things Like 'Odeshí', 'Juju', 'Otumorkpor' In Nigeria/Africa? by MikeMicheal(m): 7:49pm On Sep 05, 2020
jrusky:



Hahahaha pls how old are you? From your response I can see you must be one of those still looking on the net for his or her jamb result for sure.

Anaestetic for real Drug weapon for real Nice one those things are just too little to what I know and can blow to your face and you are dead within 15 second. Young man dont let me go that discussion im too leather than you think you are.

Go back and read the topic of the thread and tell me if the nonsense you posted has any link with it.

Grow up ok

Your brain is dead if you dont know that there are powdery substances that can be blown to the face and will result into death upon inhaling, but empty skulls like you will call it charm.

Telling me to come and see them display stupidity, that wouldnt be more or less than what I described above.

If time travel was possible and technologies of today taken back to the year 1600s, fools like you would have called smart phones juju or witchcraft.

Brainless fool, even going back to school can't solve your stupidity.

You can now go forth and die.
Re: How Real Are Things Like 'Odeshí', 'Juju', 'Otumorkpor' In Nigeria/Africa? by Dreyton36: 7:50pm On Sep 05, 2020
solmusdesigns:


Ok let me give you a straight forward answer based on experience

My cousin is a Naval Officer, and went to join SBS (Special Boat Service) these are elite forces similar to US navy seal or the marine commando, upon getting selected he came home to seek protection from my dad's uncle who happens to be a Land merchant, Ibadan high chief, and Customary court Judge.. to cut the long story short a dish was prepared for him with content including cat eyes, and other ingredients, bullets from a pump action was tested on him and nothing happened, he has done tours in North East, and South South with many falling beside him without him getting hit..

Another personal experience is 2013 during my service year as a Corper in Abeokuta I witnessed metaphysical phenomenon aka jazz called Magun live and direct, I witnessed do as I say charm being used on a British online client live and direct



.
pls can you email me? We get talk
Re: How Real Are Things Like 'Odeshí', 'Juju', 'Otumorkpor' In Nigeria/Africa? by Goddys(m): 7:52pm On Sep 05, 2020
od501:


My broda, I laugh at people who tag these things fetish. In Onitsha 2004 during the days if MOSSOB, menh...police shoot gun taya! Army blow machine gun taya! Na guerilla squad from Abj come settle the matter oo with their own otumokpo...menhh...army get grade ooo...this ones are not just dark in complexion, they are charcoal in complexion, with a padlock key logged in their mouth. I was there live and direct, there was this small boy, about 11 years of age called nwababy (cos they hanged a doll on his neck). They (MOSSOB) placed him in forefront with about 40-50 MOSSOB members behind him with "cataports), omoh....no bullet no matter how big dey cross that boy; all the hundreds and thousands of shots fired by security forces falled on that boy. Menhhh...make I stop here shaa...but know this, juju, and odiashi is super real! Bleep scientific explanations!
I was there too. You are right. Even IPOB has pillar squad that shield others from bullets. I also witnessed it at bridge head Onitsha last 5 years
Re: How Real Are Things Like 'Odeshí', 'Juju', 'Otumorkpor' In Nigeria/Africa? by joyandfaith: 7:52pm On Sep 05, 2020
Kingluqman:
I go still repeat am, dem never jazz you before grin Person wey dem jazz no go fit talk. Even doctors Dey reject some patients because of jazz.

You don see patient wey no dey alright and critically ill for hospital and doctor go test am, dem go talk sey e Dey okay grin

quack doctors
what you called jazz we called it poison.
different cultures have different poison
what you called juju we called it magic
different societies have different magic formulae
magic can be explained scientifically if you understand the formulae
there is also illusion
it can be used negatively as well
Re: How Real Are Things Like 'Odeshí', 'Juju', 'Otumorkpor' In Nigeria/Africa? by od501: 7:55pm On Sep 05, 2020
MrColdsweat:


The fools up there talking nonsense are waiting for the whiteman to come down to our shrines in Africa to study our juju and put it in a textbook for them to read.

Lol...wetin dem Wear for hand dem no dey carry mirror look em oo...these shii are real man..lol
Re: How Real Are Things Like 'Odeshí', 'Juju', 'Otumorkpor' In Nigeria/Africa? by joyandfaith: 8:00pm On Sep 05, 2020
webmaster99:


hypnosis or no hypnosis,
just pray you don't jam juju

I used to believe there was no juju whatsoever.

but when community school where fighting
come and see how boys where bringing out knives and cutlasses from an empty wall.

babalawo pikin dey pass through wall

that day we run tire
Yoruba's and charms are like 5 and 6


what you called jazz we called it poison.
different cultures have different poison
what you called juju we called it magic
different societies have different magic formulae
magic can be explained scientifically if you understand the formulae
there is also illusion
it can be used negatively as well

have u heard of scopolamine and sodium thiopental. both are drugs derived from herbs. scopolamine-do as I tell you.
sodium thiopental-for confession
the two drugs act on certain neurotransmitters in the brain.
if you want someone to kill someone, give him scopolamine and tell him who to kill.
if you someone does something bad like stealing, give him
sodium thiopental,he will confess to the 'bone.
there are many drugs or herbs like that.
Re: How Real Are Things Like 'Odeshí', 'Juju', 'Otumorkpor' In Nigeria/Africa? by ednut1(m): 8:04pm On Sep 05, 2020
Nooil:


You had better. Read it up, perhaps it will change your downgrading view of your ancestors.
it is what it is. they were whipped by the better equipped people. no shame in that. they still whip us till date. stand up to them and get bleeped up. Mugabe, Ghaddafi, Saddam Hussein and co can testify.
Re: How Real Are Things Like 'Odeshí', 'Juju', 'Otumorkpor' In Nigeria/Africa? by joyandfaith: 8:06pm On Sep 05, 2020
od501:


My broda, I laugh at people who tag these things fetish. In Onitsha 2004 during the days if MOSSOB, menh...police shoot gun taya! Army blow machine gun taya! Na guerilla squad from Abj come settle the matter oo with their own otumokpo...menhh...army get grade ooo...this ones are not just dark in complexion, they are charcoal in complexion, with a padlock key logged in their mouth. I was there live and direct, there was this small boy, about 11 years of age called nwababy (cos they hanged a doll on his neck). They (MOSSOB) placed him in forefront with about 40-50 MOSSOB members behind him with "cataports), omoh....no bullet no matter how big dey cross that boy; all the hundreds and thousands of shots fired by security forces falled on that boy. Menhhh...make I stop here shaa...but know this, juju, and odiashi is super real! Bleep scientific explanations!


electromagnetic force attracted metallic bullets to the boy.
doll in the neck has electromagnetic force. what you called juju I called it ancient and hidden science.
Re: How Real Are Things Like 'Odeshí', 'Juju', 'Otumorkpor' In Nigeria/Africa? by zedman1(m): 8:08pm On Sep 05, 2020
fratermathy:
I am not saying that juju exists or it doesn't. I do not agree or disagree with whatever I have not truly seen in action. In all my years, I am yet to actually see a verifiable instance of such juju actually working. I only hear stories and anecdotes.

Since I cannot verify the efficacy of juju, I cannot say if it exists or not. However, if it does exist, why haven't we all seen objective proof of its existence, especially in this day and age when things can easily land on the internet?
This is me talking.
Re: How Real Are Things Like 'Odeshí', 'Juju', 'Otumorkpor' In Nigeria/Africa? by francisbiz: 8:18pm On Sep 05, 2020
BadRadio:
If the answer is yes... Why do soldiers die of bullet wounds when they engage in fierce gun battles while at war? These dudes are helpless in the battlefield.

Instead of safety helmets and bulletproofz, these guys should just meet one baba to do it for them nah.grin

Why have Babalawo, native doctor, traditional charm makers not gone extinct?
Re: How Real Are Things Like 'Odeshí', 'Juju', 'Otumorkpor' In Nigeria/Africa? by Mummyfour(f): 8:27pm On Sep 05, 2020
Madibah:
Come alaba rago come see juju grin
what happens in alaba rago. Gist us naah!!! I went to okolo the other day and I passed through alaba rago
Re: How Real Are Things Like 'Odeshí', 'Juju', 'Otumorkpor' In Nigeria/Africa? by wizod(m): 8:28pm On Sep 05, 2020
Goldensword:
it's real, but the problem is that some of our men in armed forces trust their training more, i know of a guy from my place in army, though late now he died this year around March from bomb ambushed, but i can tell you that this guy has fought in northeast for more than 4years without a scratch. again have you asked yourself how managed ipob men where able to caught two DSS men in Enugu during the recent fracas between them, despite that DSS men were well armed. my dear odeshi is very real.
i'm a living witness
Re: How Real Are Things Like 'Odeshí', 'Juju', 'Otumorkpor' In Nigeria/Africa? by Nobody: 8:28pm On Sep 05, 2020
BadRadio:
If the answer is yes... Why do soldiers die of bullet wounds when they engage in fierce gun battles while at war? These dudes are helpless in the battlefield.

Instead of safety helmets and bulletproofz, these guys should just meet one baba to do it for them nah.grin


There is nothing like odeshi qne all those acclaimed jazz to stop bullets.
Re: How Real Are Things Like 'Odeshí', 'Juju', 'Otumorkpor' In Nigeria/Africa? by Nobody: 8:30pm On Sep 05, 2020
BadRadio:
A priest prays to God for protection. An armed robber meets baba for protection.

Robber shoots priest and he dies.

SARZ shoots armed robber, bullet bounces off and robber shouts "Odeshí" and ran away with his loot. cheesy


can someone explain that to me pls?grin

U have been watching too much nollywood
Re: How Real Are Things Like 'Odeshí', 'Juju', 'Otumorkpor' In Nigeria/Africa? by Nobody: 8:30pm On Sep 05, 2020
solmusdesigns:
cool





The knowledge of spiritual phenomenon is not limited to just anybody, I mean even Physical science you can't explain it , yet you bother yourself with Spiritual, extraterrestrial and metaphysical occurrence


.


Be wise and think.

Those things dont exist.
Re: How Real Are Things Like 'Odeshí', 'Juju', 'Otumorkpor' In Nigeria/Africa? by Nobody: 8:31pm On Sep 05, 2020
Madibah:
Come alaba rago come see juju grin

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