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Re: Tough Policies: IMF, World Bank Take Over Nigeria’s Economy - TribuneOnline by Chirowman(m): 7:29pm On Sep 06, 2020
wahala dey ooo ,fuel might get to #500 a liter like this ooo
Re: Tough Policies: IMF, World Bank Take Over Nigeria’s Economy - TribuneOnline by obailala(m): 7:30pm On Sep 06, 2020
anonimi:
Let us assume that you are telling the truth about the borrowing, what was achieved in education, industrialisation, employment, infrastructure etc with the loans over the same period by both?
Prior to 2015 when oil still sold for $100, almost 90% of Nigeria's budget was for recurrent expenditure. In 2015 when oil price crashed, due to the drop in revenue, recurrent expenditure was roughly 99% of the entire 2015 budget. In 2016, with oil price/revenue falling even further, the govt had to inevitable start borrowing to at least finance capital projects in the budget and help stumulate the country out of recession.

So to answer your above question on what the loans have been used for, every single capital expenditure by the FG since 2016 till date has been financed by loans because the govt's income is barely enough for recurrent expenditure. So if you see any single pothole being repaired or any new bridge or railway or airport renovation or new school blocks anywhere across the country, just know that it was financed by these loans you hear of.

Meanwhile since everyone is trying to politicise the loan issue across Apc vs PDP, the real question we should be asking is what the loans were used for by PDP prior to 2015. It's on record that even after OBJ cleared most of our debts, Nigeria's total debt had risen to $63b as at June 2015.
Re: Tough Policies: IMF, World Bank Take Over Nigeria’s Economy - TribuneOnline by Nobody: 7:30pm On Sep 06, 2020
odinga1of:
Why is prices of crude oil determine in London and NY?
That's one good question....
Re: Tough Policies: IMF, World Bank Take Over Nigeria’s Economy - TribuneOnline by Oblitz(m): 7:31pm On Sep 06, 2020
if things did not happen this way, many people would still be arguing that it would have been better.

God is punishing Nigeria for accusing an innocent man unjustly.
Re: Tough Policies: IMF, World Bank Take Over Nigeria’s Economy - TribuneOnline by franugo(m): 7:32pm On Sep 06, 2020
ourema:
In fact let them take over sef, this one wey we dey live na life?
You will not read to understand properly what the op meant, why the rush to comment?
Re: Tough Policies: IMF, World Bank Take Over Nigeria’s Economy - TribuneOnline by Magormako: 7:32pm On Sep 06, 2020
Too much loan.
Las las APC will sell this country.
Re: Tough Policies: IMF, World Bank Take Over Nigeria’s Economy - TribuneOnline by dontai(m): 7:34pm On Sep 06, 2020
obailala:
Buhari may be worst in many areas, but are you aware that despite oil selling averagely above $100 in his tenure and the govt receiving almost 3-4 times more revenue than any other administration, GEJ's government in 5 years borrowed just about the same amount of money which Buhari has borrowed in 5 years?... I'd be damned if you know this cos 99% of Nigerians dont. We live and analyse data purely on sensational and political headlines.

If Nigeria couldn't survive without borrowing when oil was $100, then why exactly is anyone surprised that we have to borrow now that oil sells for $30-40?

Oil price is down, country's revenue is down, Nigerians dont want to be taxed, Nigerians dont want fuel subsidy to be removed, Nigerians dont want electricity subsidy to be removed, Nigerians dont want educational subsidies to be removed, Nigerians dont want roads to be tolled, and we dont also want govt to borrow? Are we sure we arent a confused Nation? Maybe it's truly Buhari's fault, he should miraculously mint money.
Lol, So he can't miraculously mint money? So what's is in his head when he said #1 will equal $1?, or you didn't heard when he said PMS would be sold at #50. you people keep shouting oil price drop per barrel. What of countries without oil? I would have advice us to look into Agriculture for solace. I know it's still gonna fall on the government deaf hear. Much have been said about how the economy can be revive, but people like u won't let it work. because, you won't let baba reason, he have you to wave off any complaint or suggestions, albiet.
Re: Tough Policies: IMF, World Bank Take Over Nigeria’s Economy - TribuneOnline by anonimi: 7:35pm On Sep 06, 2020
obailala:
Prior to 2015 when oil still sold for $100, almost 90% of Nigeria's budget was for recurrent expenditure. In 2015 when oil price crashed, due to the drop in revenue, recurrent expenditure was roughly 99% of the entire 2015 budget. In 2016, with oil price/revenue falling even further, the govt had to inevitable start borrowing to at least finance capital projects in the budget and help stumulate the country out of recession.

So to answer your above question on what the loans have been used for, every single capital expenditure by the FG since 2016 till date has been financed by loans because the govt's income is barely enough for recurrent expenditure. So if you see any single pothole being repaired or any new bridge or railway or airport renovation or new school blocks anywhere across the country, just know that it was financed by these loans you hear of.

Meanwhile since everyone is trying to politicise the loan issue across Apc vs PDP, the real question we should be asking is what the loans were used for by PDP prior to 2015. It's on record that even after OBJ cleared most of our debts, Nigeria's total debt had risen to $63b as at June 2015.
Does increased minimum wage of over 100% in 2011 count?
Should we include the hundreds of almajiri schools and universities established with recruitment of staff?
What about the revival and renewal of the railways and building of two new ones in Kaduna and Abuja up to 80%, according to Amaechi?
Should we consider the high cost of subsidy due to high oil prices?
Re: Tough Policies: IMF, World Bank Take Over Nigeria’s Economy - TribuneOnline by Parrot173(m): 7:35pm On Sep 06, 2020
ourema:
In fact let them take over sef, this one wey we dey live na life?
��� i feel ur pain bro...
Re: Tough Policies: IMF, World Bank Take Over Nigeria’s Economy - TribuneOnline by Zenithpeak(m): 7:41pm On Sep 06, 2020
Luckydubby7:
This is the money buhari and his team of apc politicians have already shared among themselves since.
I just pity next president of Nigeria after buhari.
There may never be an entity called Nigeria after 2023.... They will ruin the economy and surrender the nation to Bokoharam terrorists by tactically allowing them to overrun country and the country will be in serious problem.

Nigeria had came to an end since 2015 as predicted by west.... We are only living on borrowed time.
Re: Tough Policies: IMF, World Bank Take Over Nigeria’s Economy - TribuneOnline by Collins9156(m): 7:49pm On Sep 06, 2020
But Tinubu can offset ths debt.
Re: Tough Policies: IMF, World Bank Take Over Nigeria’s Economy - TribuneOnline by BIGGESThead6: 7:52pm On Sep 06, 2020
Igbochief001:
Igbos should just be ready to pay China and world bank our share so they can free Biafra ...the rest can settle their own
Yegbo wey no get money. Abi NA Gala and Lacasera wey them dey hawk you want make them use pay?

Re: Tough Policies: IMF, World Bank Take Over Nigeria’s Economy - TribuneOnline by Agugbadin: 7:53pm On Sep 06, 2020
PMB has failed this country
Re: Tough Policies: IMF, World Bank Take Over Nigeria’s Economy - TribuneOnline by Nobody: 8:00pm On Sep 06, 2020
NwaNimo1:
Slavery reloading.....

[img]https://media./images/52c1f997ad113fed1e9b0af0653403d9/tenor.gif[/img]
Brace yourself ... the Chinese workers are used for 18hrs a day. They don't believe in Sunday talk more of Sturday. Soo, you will not touch your Tzv because your bill will be something else.
Una never see anything ... next time uma hear Change or Next level, una go ask questions.
Re: Tough Policies: IMF, World Bank Take Over Nigeria’s Economy - TribuneOnline by drololaaof: 8:03pm On Sep 06, 2020
BITTER PILLS of IMF & WORLD BANK no country have ever recovered from their solution instead things are worsening, increase unemployment crime rate , disorder and chaos
Re: Tough Policies: IMF, World Bank Take Over Nigeria’s Economy - TribuneOnline by dasparrow: 8:03pm On Sep 06, 2020
Nigerian leaders keep taking out loans and using part of the money to buy citizenship by investment in other parts of the world for themselves and their immediate family while the masses suffer needlessly. It's unfortunate!
Re: Tough Policies: IMF, World Bank Take Over Nigeria’s Economy - TribuneOnline by ericangel01(m): 8:10pm On Sep 06, 2020
Wiseandtrue:
President Mohammed Buhari, twice a failure!!!

He's only there to serve himself!!!

IMF, China over to you!!!
what that bird ontop nigeria emblem still waiting for when amotekun has descended on the horses .
Re: Tough Policies: IMF, World Bank Take Over Nigeria’s Economy - TribuneOnline by chiedonedoor(m): 8:11pm On Sep 06, 2020
We are all in it. Next level here we come.
Galatians 6:7 KJV
Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. Christ is coming soon. Repent
Re: Tough Policies: IMF, World Bank Take Over Nigeria’s Economy - TribuneOnline by ibnew: 8:12pm On Sep 06, 2020
kikero:
Most if not all African economies fall victim to the IMF because their sources of income have problems.....

First, most African countries rely on selling raw materials and commodities to the global market

Second we use the income from the sales to import goods and services, including some that we can produce on our own at a value that is higher than our income

Third , we don't control the price of the raw materials we sell. Prices of crude oil are determined in London and New York

Fourth, we spend billions on subsides and other socialist welfarist projects which end up costing more than we estimated because of our growing population and low tax base


Fifth, we tolerate corruption, both at the low and also by the big men and women. And most of the money stolen comes from loans taken

All these puts us into deficit and into the hands of the IMF and the world Bank.

Nigeria is a classic example.

We could be free.from the IMF, but because it involves fighting corruption seriously.and cutting subsides seriously, and becoming an industrial economy which means an initial period of hardship, we refuse to take those routes.
You are so on point my brother. We need more people like you with good understanding in this Country. We all as a nation need to bite the bullet to move forward. China, India Malaysia and Indonesia did it. Any nation that want to break free from these Western economic manipulation must be ready for a period of hard times. But we have to fight corruption and other economic and social vices to stand still so we can move forward. Bringing the hardship without fighting corruption will not yield the needed result and will not work. So we keep going in circles.
Re: Tough Policies: IMF, World Bank Take Over Nigeria’s Economy - TribuneOnline by Toxay(m): 8:13pm On Sep 06, 2020
kikero:
Most if not all African economies fall victim to the IMF because their sources of income have problems.....

First, most African countries rely on selling raw materials and commodities to the global market

Second we use the income from the sales to import goods and services, including some that we can produce on our own at a value that is higher than our income

Third , we don't control the price of the raw materials we sell. Prices of crude oil are determined in London and New York

Fourth, we spend billions on subsides and other socialist welfarist projects which end up costing more than we estimated because of our growing population and low tax base


Fifth, we tolerate corruption, both at the low and also by the big men and women. And most of the money stolen comes from loans taken

All these puts us into deficit and into the hands of the IMF and the world Bank.

Nigeria is a classic example.

We could be free.from the IMF, but because it involves fighting corruption seriously.and cutting subsides seriously, and becoming an industrial economy which means an initial period of hardship, we refuse to take those routes.
You have not even mentioned our insanely expensive bureaucracy,
Unproductive civil service;both at federal and state level
and so many unnecessary political appointments, etc.

Nigeria is heading for a huge crash.
Oil prices would keep dropping, the world is eventually going to switch to renewable energy in some years and Nigeria's population going to hit 300million in 10 years or thereabout
Re: Tough Policies: IMF, World Bank Take Over Nigeria’s Economy - TribuneOnline by pacespot(m): 8:16pm On Sep 06, 2020
How does this affect the price of dollars is my concern?
Re: Tough Policies: IMF, World Bank Take Over Nigeria’s Economy - TribuneOnline by cutieme(m): 8:16pm On Sep 06, 2020
All the millions the presidents and senators have been lavishing albin the name of bonuses and allowances, if put together won't it go along way to pay these debts??Wicked souls!
Re: Tough Policies: IMF, World Bank Take Over Nigeria’s Economy - TribuneOnline by jaysport: 8:17pm On Sep 06, 2020
useless politicians...abeg, which crime fit make them deport person from Nigeria...
Re: Tough Policies: IMF, World Bank Take Over Nigeria’s Economy - TribuneOnline by Nobody: 8:17pm On Sep 06, 2020
BIGGESThead6:
Yegbo wey no get money. Abi NA Gala and Lacasera wey them dey hawk you want make them use pay?
Let the time reach na
Re: Tough Policies: IMF, World Bank Take Over Nigeria’s Economy - TribuneOnline by ericangel01(m): 8:18pm On Sep 06, 2020
proeast:
Lol, do they have any options left after they've mortgaged the present and future generations right to good standard of living with terrible loans from China that ended up being embezzled.

Nigeria is finished going forward, and that's the reality any discerning person already knows. The poverty levels will soon become pandemic at the rate we are going and with millions more being born while sustenance approaches zero, starvation becomes inevitable.
arm robbery/kidnapping and rituals where beginning. nigerians should brase up for the worse.
Re: Tough Policies: IMF, World Bank Take Over Nigeria’s Economy - TribuneOnline by 0balufonlll: 8:18pm On Sep 06, 2020
kikero:
Most if not all African economies fall victim to the IMF because their sources of income have problems.....

First, most African countries rely on selling raw materials and commodities to the global market

Second we use the income from the sales to import goods and services, including some that we can produce on our own at a value that is higher than our income

Third , we don't control the price of the raw materials we sell. Prices of crude oil are determined in London and New York

Fourth, we spend billions on subsides and other socialist welfarist projects which end up costing more than we estimated because of our growing population and low tax base


Fifth, we tolerate corruption, both at the low and also by the big men and women. And most of the money stolen comes from loans taken

All these puts us into deficit and into the hands of the IMF and the world Bank.

Nigeria is a classic example.

We could be free.from the IMF, but because it involves fighting corruption seriously.and cutting subsides seriously, and becoming an industrial economy which means an initial period of hardship, we refuse to take those routes.
A student of Walter Rodney.
Good work.
Re: Tough Policies: IMF, World Bank Take Over Nigeria’s Economy - TribuneOnline by ericangel01(m): 8:22pm On Sep 06, 2020
Jostoman:
Yoruba Muslim
after all this thing happening in the country u are still following the yoruba people with your envy head upside down. e go still better for u so?.
Re: Tough Policies: IMF, World Bank Take Over Nigeria’s Economy - TribuneOnline by ericangel01(m): 8:27pm On Sep 06, 2020
PrudencyFeats:
I'm just asking

Can they privatize the presidency and leave the governors, National Assembly and LGA chairmen.

So that professionals and groups can bid for it and run it for 5.years. We give them our target and if they fail to deliver... No payment!
those who are to sign that into law are busy celebrating there vulture wedding. all dumb asses should gather here for more barren wedding celebration
Re: Tough Policies: IMF, World Bank Take Over Nigeria’s Economy - TribuneOnline by Tianamen1: 8:29pm On Sep 06, 2020
obailala:
Buhari may be worst in many areas, but are you aware that despite oil selling averagely above $100 in his tenure and the govt receiving almost 3-4 times more revenue than any other administration, GEJ's government in 5 years borrowed just about the same amount of money which Buhari has borrowed in 5 years?... I'd be damned if you know this cos 99% of Nigerians dont. We live and analyse data purely on sensational and political headlines.

If Nigeria couldn't survive without borrowing when oil was $100, then why exactly is anyone surprised that we have to borrow now that oil sells for $30-40? Oh I forgot, it's because Buhari is a dullard.

Oil price is down, country's revenue is down, Nigerians dont want to be taxed, Nigerians dont want fuel subsidy to be removed, Nigerians dont want electricity subsidy to be removed, Nigerians dont want educational subsidies to be removed, Nigerians dont want roads to be tolled, and we dont also want govt to borrow despite the low oil prices/revenue? Are we sure we arent a confused nation? Maybe it's truly Buhari's fault, he should miraculously mint money.
In this country with the highest number of people living in extreme poverty, a civil servant will own 3 houses; 1 in Abuja, 1 in Lagos and another in his village. Why didn't Buhari raise property taxes? There are so many vacant houses in Abuja and even Neighboring Kaduna.

Our Senators and house of reps members ordered new Toyota Camrys this year. Were they not aware that our foreign reserves were under pressure.

Why should a car worth 1.2 million and another worth 10 million pay the same tax to VIO. is this done in any other country.

Look, if the Government were serious, they would have started taxing richer Nigerians as far back as 2016. All the tax increases seems to be targeted at the poor or at businesses. Our leaders are plainly not serious and only God almighty will protect us if chaos breaks out.
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