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In the name of Allah the most compassionate the most merciful, He guides whoever he wills and make astray whoever he wills He sent his last Prophet out of mercy to the world(SAW)

This article is divided into three to ease reading. There are three types of Shirk that is common in our society.

# Going to soothsayer/Witchdoctor
# Practicing Black magic
# Worshipping of Idol.

PART1
Going to soothsayer/Witchdoctor
This is a very grave sin in islam to go to a soothsaying person either Alfa, Harbalist, or Woli. That is due to many refrences in the Quran and Hadith.

the Prophet SAW said "Whoever went to a
soothsayer or a diviner and believed in what he said, had no faith in what was sent to Muhammad" i.e. Quran, Hadith

on the authority of Abu Hurayrah the
Prophet, sallallaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam, informed us that whoever goes to a soothsayer or a diviner and believes
what he says becomes a disbeliever.

When a person goes to a fortuneteller and asks him about something and believes what he says, This is disbelief in Allaah (kufr), because he is believing the
fortuneteller’s claim to have knowledge of the unseen, and believing a human-being's claim to have knowledge of the unseen constitutes disbelief in the verse in which Allaah says "Say, none in the heavens and earth knows the unseen except Allaah" (Quran 27:65)

However, whatever the case, the door of repentance is open, as the Prophet (PBUH) said: “Allaah will accept the repentance of His slave so long as the death rattle has not reached his throat.”




PART2
Practicing Black magic

Black magic, commonly referred to as “Sihr” in the Holy Quran, is one of the most condemned acts for a Muslim.
All kinds of magic are haram, considering that the idea upon which it is founded goes against the principles of Islam.Being Muslims, we believe that only Allah (SWT) has the power to change fate and design the path for us to follow. Magic invalidates this concept by giving humans the
power to control destiny, thus defying
Allah. It's one of the tools of Shaitan.

Allah said in (Surah al-Baqarah 2:102)
that whoever buys the idea of engaging in blackmagic he will have no share in hereafter. "...and certainly they know that he who brought it should have no share of good in the hereafter and evil was
the price for which they sold their souls; had they known this.”

The Holy Prophet (SAW) said, “Verily, spells, amulets, (onde) and charms are acts of idolatry.” (Sunan Abu Dawood 3883)

Some Popular Blackmagic
Oogun owo- money ritual
Gbetugbetu- Command
Afose/Olugbohun- be-as-i-say
Amudo- Touch and follow
Aluwo - awestrucker
Edi or Edija- Seperator
Agbelepota- Enemy-killer
Oroka/onde- Charmed ring/amulet
and hundreds more.



Part3
Worshipping of Idol

In the Qur’an and the hadiths of the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) it is forbidden to worship idols, and it is enjoined to worship Allah only.

Allah, “So avoid the uncleanliness [rijs] of idols and avoid false statement”
[al-Hajj 22:30]

"And [We sent] Abraham, when he said to his people, Worship Allah and fear Him. That is best for you, if you should know.
You only worship, besides Allah, idols, and you produce a falsehood. Indeed, those you worship besides Allah do not possess for you [the power of] provision. So seek from Allah provision and worship Him and be grateful to Him. To Him you will be returned”

[al-‘Ankaboot 29:16-17]

“And [Abraham] said, You have only taken, other than Allah , idols as [a bond of] in worldly life. Then on the Day of Resurrection you will deny one another and curse one another, and your refuge will be the Fire, and you will not have any helpers.”Am
[al-‘Ankaboot 29:26].

Note that an idol is anything being served, sacrificed, revered by its adherents believing it has some supernatural powers that can effect human condition. Some very popular idols are Ifa, Ogun etc.

whoever practice black magic will have no share in paradise. whoever have ear should hear now! go and read this verse in full (Surah al-Baqarah 2:102)

Alhamdulillah for the light of Islam.

Rabbana la tuzigh quloobana ba’da idh hadaitana wa hab lana milladunka rahmah innaka antal Wahhab.
“Our Lord, let not our hearts deviate after You have guided us and grant us from Yourself mercy. Indeed, You are the Bestower.”

Whenever we have issues, sick appropriate solutions and call on Allah! The solution is not to go the "alfa babalawo" or "dibia" marabout seeking for solutions to your problems. Everyone is not free of Problems, even the person you went to is unable to guess who visited him when he was absent.

If you are sick go to the clinic/hospital, use appropriate drugs and perform authentic Ruqyah.

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Realismailakabir:
In the name of Allah the most compassionate the most merciful, He guides whoever he wills and make astray whoever he wills He sent his last Prophet out of mercy to the world(SAW)

This article is divided into three to ease reading. There are three types of Shirk that is common in our society.

# Going to soothsayer/Witchdoctor
# Practicing Black magic
# Worshipping of Idol.

PART1
Going to soothsayer/Witchdoctor
This is a very grave sin in islam to go to a soothsaying person either Alfa, Harbalist, or Woli. That is due to many refrences in the Quran and Hadith.

the Prophet SAW said "Whoever went to a
soothsayer or a diviner and believed in what he said, had no faith in what was sent to Muhammad" i.e. Quran, Hadith

on the authority of Abu Hurayrah the
Prophet, sallallaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam, informed us that whoever goes to a soothsayer or a diviner and believes
what he says becomes a disbeliever.

When a person goes to a fortuneteller and asks him about something and believes what he says, This is disbelief in Allaah (kufr), because he is believing the
fortuneteller’s claim to have knowledge of the unseen, and believing a human-being's claim to have knowledge of the unseen constitutes disbelief in the verse in which Allaah says "Say, none in the heavens and earth knows the unseen except Allaah" (Quran 27:65)

However, whatever the case, the door of repentance is open, as the Prophet (PBUH) said: “Allaah will accept the repentance of His slave so long as the death rattle has not reached his throat.”




PART2
Practicing Black magic

Black magic, commonly referred to as “Sihr” in the Holy Quran, is one of the most condemned acts for a Muslim.
All kinds of magic are haram, considering that the idea upon which it is founded goes against the principles of Islam.Being Muslims, we believe that only Allah (SWT) has the power to change fate and design the path for us to follow. Magic invalidates this concept by giving humans the
power to control destiny, thus defying
Allah. It's one of the tools of Shaitan.

Allah said in (Surah al-Baqarah 2:102)
that whoever buys the idea of engaging in blackmagic he will have no share in hereafter. "...and certainly they know that he who brought it should have no share of good in the hereafter and evil was
the price for which they sold their souls; had they known this.”

The Holy Prophet (SAW) said, “Verily, spells, amulets, (onde) and charms are acts of idolatry.” (Sunan Abu Dawood 3883)

Some Popular Blackmagic
Oogun owo- money ritual
Gbetugbetu- Command
Afose/Olugbohun- be-as-i-say
Amudo- Touch and follow
Aluwo - awestrucker
Edi or Edija- Seperator
Agbelepota- Enemy-killer
Oroka/onde- Charmed ring/amulet
and hundreds more.



Part3
Worshipping of Idol

In the Qur’an and the hadiths of the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) it is forbidden to worship idols, and it is enjoined to worship Allah only.

Allah, “So avoid the uncleanliness [rijs] of idols and avoid false statement”
[al-Hajj 22:30]

"And [We sent] Abraham, when he said to his people, Worship Allah and fear Him. That is best for you, if you should know.
You only worship, besides Allah, idols, and you produce a falsehood. Indeed, those you worship besides Allah do not possess for you [the power of] provision. So seek from Allah provision and worship Him and be grateful to Him. To Him you will be returned”

[al-‘Ankaboot 29:16-17]

“And [Abraham] said, You have only taken, other than Allah , idols as [a bond of] in worldly life. Then on the Day of Resurrection you will deny one another and curse one another, and your refuge will be the Fire, and you will not have any helpers.”Am
[al-‘Ankaboot 29:26].

Note that an idol is anything being served, sacrificed, revered by its adherents believing it has some supernatural powers that can effect human condition. Some very popular idols are Ifa, Ogun etc.

What about geomancy in Islam where the Islamic prophet Enoch was reported to use sand to make prediction for the future? Your prophet didn't condemn Islamic prophet Enoch practice of geomancy in that hadith. Is geomancy a legitimate Islamic practice?

Narrated Mu'awiyah b. al-Hakam al-Sulami:
I said: Messenger of Allah! among us there are men who practice divination by drawing lines. He said: There was a Prophet who drew lines, so if anyone does it as he drew lines, that is right.
حَدَّثَنَا مُسَدَّدٌ، حَدَّثَنَا يَحْيَى، عَنِ الْحَجَّاجِ الصَّوَّافِ، حَدَّثَنِي يَحْيَى بْنُ أَبِي كَثِيرٍ، عَنْ هِلاَلِ بْنِ أَبِي مَيْمُونَةَ، عَنْ عَطَاءِ بْنِ يَسَارٍ، عَنْ مُعَاوِيَةَ بْنِ الْحَكَمِ السُّلَمِيِّ، قَالَ قُلْتُ يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ وَمِنَّا رِجَالٌ يَخُطُّونَ ‏.‏ قَالَ ‏ "‏ كَانَ نَبِيٌّ مِنَ الأَنْبِيَاءِ يَخُطُّ فَمَنْ وَافَقَ خَطَّهُ فَذَاكَ ‏"‏ ‏.‏
Grade : Sahih (Al-Albani) صحيح (الألباني) حكم :
Reference : Sunan Abi Dawud 3909
In-book reference : Book 30, Hadith 6
English translation : Book 29, Hadith 3900

N.B: Geomancy, or sand reading or line drawing, is like IFA (among the yoruba people) divination.

Instead of you to formally enroll in islamic school you are trolling islamic threads to learn from us indirectly. I dont have problem with it by the way. Keep learning bro. By the way you didnt quote this hadith in full from the beginning.

true2god:
What about geomancy in Islam where the Islamic prophet Enoch was reported to use sand to make prediction for the future? Your prophet didn't condemn Islamic prophet Enoch practice of geomancy in that hadith. Is geomancy a legitimate Islamic practice?

Narrated Mu'awiyah b. al-Hakam al-Sulami:
I said: Messenger of Allah! among us there are men who practice divination by drawing lines. He said: There was a Prophet who drew lines, so if anyone does it as he drew lines, that is right.
حَدَّثَنَا مُسَدَّدٌ، حَدَّثَنَا يَحْيَى، عَنِ الْحَجَّاجِ الصَّوَّافِ، حَدَّثَنِي يَحْيَى بْنُ أَبِي كَثِيرٍ، عَنْ هِلاَلِ بْنِ أَبِي مَيْمُونَةَ، عَنْ عَطَاءِ بْنِ يَسَارٍ، عَنْ مُعَاوِيَةَ بْنِ الْحَكَمِ السُّلَمِيِّ، قَالَ قُلْتُ يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ وَمِنَّا رِجَالٌ يَخُطُّونَ ‏.‏ قَالَ ‏ "‏ كَانَ نَبِيٌّ مِنَ الأَنْبِيَاءِ يَخُطُّ فَمَنْ وَافَقَ خَطَّهُ فَذَاكَ ‏"‏ ‏.‏
Grade : Sahih (Al-Albani) صحيح (الألباني) حكم :
Reference : Sunan Abi Dawud 3909
In-book reference : Book 30, Hadith 6
English translation : Book 29, Hadith 3900

N.B: Geomancy, or sand reading or line drawing, is like IFA (among the yoruba people) divination.

Empiree:
Instead of you to formally enroll in islamic school you are trolling islamic threads to learn from us indirectly. I dont have problem with it by the way. Keep learning bro. By the way you didnt quote this hadith in full from the beginning.

Can you give us the full quotation of the hadith? The hadith said mohammed approved Geomancy, aka sand reading or line drawing. Is line drawing sunnah or not?

true2god:
Can you give us the full quotation of the hadith? The hadith said mohammed approved Geomancy, aka sand reading or line drawing. Is line drawing sunnah or not?

if you could quote this one what stopped you from quoting everything?. I have not given my opinion or my position on this issue and I am not interested either

Empiree:
if you could quote this one what stopped you from quoting everything?. I have not given my opinion or my position on this issue and I am not interested either

I have quoted the hadith I have. If it is abridged you can provide the full quote. It is as if you like creating bottlenecks these days. Do you condemn or accept this hadith where Mohammed approved line drawing (or Geomancy)?

true2god:
I have quoted the hadith I have. If it is abridged you can provide the full quote. It is as if you like creating bottlenecks these days. Do you condemn or accept this hadith where Mohammed approved line drawing (or Geomancy)?

geomancy is a branch of scientific knowledge. I asked you to quote from hadith so you could see the difference.

Prophet's responses (condemnation) to soothsayers etc was different when he was asked about drawing or "sand browsing". I wish I can refer you to where you can learn more about this?. I am not against geomancy bcuz there was no direct condemnation by the prophet. Modern meteorology falls in this category too.

Geomancy is calculation not soothsaying. But it is unfortunate that some people apply ruling of soothsayers for geomancy. I don't like to argue this issue. Sand browsing is old version. It is modernized through technology today. There is no spiritual being in the sand telling people what to do. It is simply calculation or binary. It is coding system.

Empiree:
geomancy is a branch of scientific knowledge. I asked you to quote from hadith so you could see the difference.

Prophet's responses (condemnation) to soothsayers etc was different when he was asked about drawing or "sand browsing". I wish I can refer you to where you can learn more about this?. I am not against geomancy bcuz there was no direct condemnation by the prophet. Modern meteorology falls in this category too.

Geomancy is calculation not soothsaying. But it is unfortunate that some people apply ruling of soothsayers for geomancy. I don't like to argue this issue. Sand browsing is old version. It is modernized through technology today. There is no spiritual being in the sand telling people what to do. It is simply calculation or binary. It is coding system.

So you agree with the Yoruba version of Geomancy using IFA divination. If you approve the Islamic version of sand browsing you have no right (or reason) to condemn IFA divination using sand browsing.

We can conclude that IFA divination is as old as Islamic sand browsing.

true2god:
So you agree with the Yoruba version of Geomancy using IFA divination. If you approve the Islamic version of sand browsing you have no right (or reason) to condemn IFA divination using sand browsing.

We can conclude that IFA divination is as old as Islamic sand browsing.

I knew you were coming here. Ifa was originally pure science in yorubaland. But what makes it haram and forbidden now is alawo have compromised is. They have inculcated deities (their orishas) into it which makes it haram. You can hear their utterances when they honor their ifa pedigrees. I know you have evil intention but I won't buy your bull crap. Go on YouTube and learn from Yoruba professors who have nothing to do with Yoruba deities(religion) but they studied ifa. They would tell you it was science but alawo messed it up. Ifa is now haram. Why are you comparing?. Why didn't you say modern future forecast is also ifa?.

Let me give you a knockout. Those day before prophet muhammad SAW, people used to visit graves and did all sorts of rubbishes. When prophet muhammad SAW came he temporarily banned the practice of visiting graves. After his companions are well grounded in Islam he now allowed them to visit graves up till today. Why did prophet forbade early muslims from visiting graves?. It was banned bcus of haram activities perpetrated by pagans. Question is, just because disbelievers used to visit graves and now Muslims do it make Muslims compared to them?. No. It means graves visitation was always human natural disposition or fitra. Now, are only three Muslims visiting graves today?. It is worldwide thing. But it doesn't mean everyone likes it. It is only a recommendation. Some don't like visiting graves like myself. What we do there is what matters.

what you dont understand is, sand browsing is old fashion. It doesn't have to be sand. Sand represents paper, board, slate etc. Your hand represents pencil, pen etc. There is nothing spiritual about it. It is calculation or simple science. But it looks crazy bcus in nigeria we don't invest on science and technology. Nigerians are old version but Oyinbo people have quickly advance.

Empiree:
I knew you were coming here. Ifa was originally pure science in yorubaland. But what makes it haram and forbidden now is alawo have compromised is. They have inculcated deities (their orishas) into it which makes it haram. You can hear their utterances when they honor their ifa pedigrees. I know you have evil intention but I won't buy your bull crap. Go on YouTube and learn from Yoruba professors who have nothing to do with Yoruba deities(religion) but they studied ifa. They would tell you it was science but alawo messed it up. Ifa is now haram. Why are you comparing?. Why didn't you say modern future forecast is also ifa?.

Let me give you a knockout. Those day before prophet muhammad SAW, people used to visit graves and did all sorts of rubbishes. When prophet muhammad SAW came he temporarily banned the practice of visiting graves. After his companions are well grounded in Islam he now allowed them to visit graves up till today. Why did prophet forbade early muslims from visiting graves?. It was banned bcus of haram activities perpetrated by pagans. Question is, just because disbelievers used to visit graves and now Muslims do it make Muslims compared to them?. No. It means graves visitation was always human natural disposition or fitra. Now, are only three Muslims visiting graves today?. It is worldwide thing. But it doesn't mean everyone likes it. It is only a recommendation. Some don't like visiting graves like myself. What we do there is what matters.

what you dont understand is, sand browsing is old fashion. It doesn't have to be sand. Sand represents paper, board, slate etc. Your hand represents pencil, pen etc. There is nothing spiritual about it. It is calculation or simple science. But it looks crazy bcus in nigeria we don't invest on science and technology. Nigerians are old version but Oyinbo people have quickly advance.

Is deities not inculcated into sound browsing in Islam? Why accept the Arabian/Islamic sound browsing (as from god) but reject the Yoruba sand browsing as being 'contaminated' by 'babalawos'? I think you need to apologize to your ancestors for embarrassing them on the internet.

It is crazy to compare sand browsing with 'grave visitation'. You visit the grave of loved ones to pay respect to them but do sand browsing to read the future which is considered Idolatry (unless if this is not idolatry in Islam).

Who told you sand browsing is a science? It is metaphysic and a spiritual practice among the people of Africa and the Arab world. My question is this, what make Islamic sand browsing acceptable while IFA tradition is not acceptable? In Islamic sand browsing, is allah not called?

true2god:
Is deities not inculcated into sound browsing in Islam? Why accept the Arabian/Islamic sound browsing (as from god) but reject the Yoruba sand browsing as being 'contaminated' by 'babalawos'? I think you need to apologize to your ancestors for embarrassing them on the internet.

no. It is a branch of scientific knowledge. Listen, bro, am not here to play around. I think i have told you difference. When that prophet drew lines, was he consulting gods like babalawo?

It is crazy to compare sand browsing with 'grave visitation'. You visit the grave of loved ones to pay respect to them but do sand browsing to read the future which is considered Idolatry (unless if this is not idolatry in Islam).

It seems you don't understand parallel illustration i proposed. So i wont budge.

Who told you sand browsing is a science? It is metaphysic and a spiritual practice among the people of Africa and the Arab world. My question is this, what make Islamic sand browsing acceptable while IFA tradition is not acceptable? In Islamic sand browsing, is allah not called?

no time to waste with crap. There is nothing called "sand browsing". That's just a terminology in reference to the hadith. Hadith did not say call it that. The hadith says "a prophet who used to draw lines". He drew lines on sand. He could have used slate, board, paper if they were available. You ain't here to anything but waste of time. This is one subject on its own. You will need to enrol and learn if you want to. This platform is not appropriate place for you. Don't let me say you are ignorant please. I have told you why and how Ifa is haram. You are yoruba man and you know too well what babalawo says during ifa divination. Why do we need to waste our time here?

Geomancy or any related practice is unislamic and i've done research about the hadith you quoted. many scholars opinion about it is that it is one of the signs Allah gave to his prophet Enoch. he did'nt learn it, but was inspired with it and didn't teach anyone either. it is unislamic because prophet Muhammad never does it, none among The caliphs do it, none among their succeeders do it till today. this can tell how unpopular the hadith is! there is a knowledge called Qiyaafah (قيافة) among arabs during the time of Prophet Muhammad, they use this knowledge to track people by their footstep and know who it is, his/her Clan. there is no any hadith against this knowledge because it is pure creativity. despite that it disappeard due to islam. Islam is against anything diabolical predicting the future and there are several hadiths more Sahih than the one you quoted now.