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shadeyinka:
Your conscience know the truth which you term as emotional blackmail.

Is a BABY, TODDLER or CHILD a legal person?

Check the definition of legal person and then show why it is legal to murder a baby, toller or child because they are not yet legal entities.

Abortion Is Not Murder

Even if we granted the most generous possible terms to the anti-abortion camp, even if we pretended the fetus was fully rational and contemplating Shakespeare in the womb, abortion would still not be murder.

There are a great many facts that conservatives feel comfortable ignoring when it comes to the abortion debate. They can pretend fetuses are indistinguishable from babies, despite the fact that medical evidence tells us fetuses cannot live unsupported, even with a respirator before 21 weeks. They can pretend they feel pain, even though scientific consensus tells us that until at least 24 weeks, a fetus cannot feel anything like pain because they do not yet have the brain connections to do so.
https://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/politics/a19748134/what-is-abortion/

Common sense didn't tell you that a fully formed man/woman becomes so only after puberty. Every other phase of human existence is still in their process of morphosis towards adulthood.

You want to kill a foetus because it cannot talk, because it doesn't have teeth, because it is still tethered to his mother through the umbilical cord?

Then, why not kill toddlers for not being able to speak English. Why not kill toddlers because they don't have breasts? Why don't you legally kill children because they are yet to have teeth?

Don't kill your conscience!

shadeyinka:
You're saying that a woman has right over her body but a foetus doesn't. A foetus is a Man or Woman in his/her earliest stage of development. The final stage of development of the foetus takes place 13-16 years later when it reaches puberty

Feggie3:
Shaatapp!! slowpoke!

Sarita01:
In nutshell what you're saying is that an innocent child should be punished for it's mother's stupidity,what happened to adoption. The most important fundamental right of every human is the right to live,but you're saying that an innocent foetus shouldn't be given that right cos the mother wasn't smart enough to know when to close her legs and when to open them or what to do even after she opens them,there are preventive measures for God's sake,they might not be 100% effective but they work to an extent. And in a situation where it doesn't work,she should be allowed to bear the consequences but on no account should a child's life be thrown away so that the mother could continue living carelessly.
Rape victims are the only exception when it comes to abortion and even then,the first thing a rape victim should do is go to the hospital,so that the doctors there could help in preventing any unwanted pregnancy,it's simple logic. You want us to agree to the murder of the most vulnerable of all humans just because you don't want to be judged or stigmatized. People will always talk whether you're good or not but there's one thing that's certain they'll surely forget and move on to newer gossips,a few months of being judged is nothing compared to a lifetime of regrets.

tommyakynz0802:
Everything you wrote here is rubbish and this shows how insane people are... Imagine justifying legal abortion (killing of children) because of rape victims.. A rape victim can easily go to the hospital immediately to flush out the sperm without having to kill a human. So that is not an excuse .. Comments like this shows what the world is turning into

mayklef:
a woman beater, calling someone out for supporting LGBT....Sinner judging Sinners for sinning differently

PinkHealthGroup:
You are seriously poorly educated. Fetuses depend on the woman gor life itself. It is up to a woman to want to carry a fetus to term. It isnt a do or die affair

ethicallyright:
Many Nigerian men who complain about Biden have funded the abortion of their girlfriends or one night stand partners who got pregnant.
Legal abortion means that people get to take care of children they are ready for and get rid of those they do not want before they are even born as humans. If the raped girl in Edo made it out alive and she got pregnant for one of the rapists, would you rather she kept the child and be damned by emotions forever while the child's father is not certain but one of three people who gang raped her currently serving life sentences?

Legalizing abortion means protecting the academic career of young female students who were lost in love and risk losing a year at home to nurse babies while the boys who put them in the family way get higher and higher.

Legalizing abortion means that the lives of our females are not ended by quacks who charge expensive rates to help them abort their foetus behind closed doors. We have young girls with blocked fallopian tubes because what could have been a simple process was undertaken by a quack in the dark.

It means that a pregnant woman can walk out of her abusive relationship and end the pain she may carry for 9 months and subsequently forever without being blackmailed for it.

Legalizing abortion makes it clear to the whole world that men only donate their white liquid for fertilization while a woman labours with a protruding stomach for almost 300 days. When a woman can walk into a clinic to buy a card and terminate a pregnancy she is not comfortable with, many men will lose their bargaining and suppression chip.

Serial divorcing of women, overt abuse of members of the press, winning elections on Twitter and uncouth speeches are some of the similarities 45 and FFK share. Any man who has no respect for women would always be against anything that tries to make them free. Even women we are fighting for are too blind to understand.

HuntSon:
I thought you were saying "gays can't reproduce and therefore shouldn't have a say??"

Now I ask you, if a gay man or woman has a child with a woman or man, does that Ungay him/her??

Do you know how many closeted gay people in Nigeria has been forced to marry and then have kids, does that make them heterosexual?? Now are they infertile??

If you believe people of other sexual orientations shouldn't matter because you're among the majority, that means black lives shouldn't matter since they're not the majority in America too! So listen to yourself now

wirinet:
My conscience knows that it is against natural justice to bring an unwanted child into this cruel world.
My conscience knows that a woman should not be punished for "sexual immorality" by forcing her to birth a baby she doesn't want, while the man goes scot free commiting the same sexual immorality as he likes.


Yes. A Baby Toddler and child has legal rights.


You can murder a baby, toller or child, but you cannot murder an embryo, a Zygote or fetus. You abort the process of birthing the baby. When you abort a process, that means you did not complete or possess the thing. You can't have an app on your phone if your abort it during installation.



Once again we are not discussing about reaching adulthood, we are talking about a woman carrying a pregnancy to term.


Yes, the mother does not want to be tethered to the baby. If the baby is capable of surviving on its own or can choose to be tethered to another woman, the mother would gladly let it go.



You are still just going on senseless emotional rants. What's concerns English, breasts and teeth with abortion?

As a side information. A friend came to my office about 3 hours ago, crying that his wife is in critical condition in the hospital. She attempted suicide by drinking sniper two days back because they had been married for over ten years, and had remain childlessness. She always miscarries whenever she became pregnant. And after the last miscarriage last week, she decided to commit suicide. He needed N180,000 for an operation and he had only raised N120,000. I could only raised N28,000 at the instance.

What I am trying to tell you that a woman that wants a baby would be ready to sacrifice her life for the baby, but one that does not would do anything to get rid of the baby. It's immoral to force a woman to have a baby she doesn't want.

wirinet:
You must be smoking hashish instead of igbo. How many wives did Biden marry?
How many prostitutes had accused Biden of sleeping with them - raw.
How many prostitutes had Biden paid off?
Has Biden ever boasted that he "grabs them by the pussy"
Which church does Trump attend and who is his pastor?
When was the last time Trump attended church service?
Has Biden ever defrauded people using fake charity organisation?

Everything about evangelical Christians boils down to sex. They are so obsessed with sex that all that matters is to them is LGBT, abortion, fornication, albeit hypocritically.

new2012:
May your struggles end the way they should. Not sure you know your priories and problems, just saying crap on public forum

Uprightness100:
If Biden is finally selected, the USA and the World at Large will not be the same..

Imagine the White House being decorated with lgbt colors
Abortion will be fully in action. Imagine the bloodshed of innocent children that will be..

Iniquity, Abominations will be fully legalized in the USA and many nations will be Drunk in it. This will attract the RAW , UNDILUTED and UNADULTERATED Wrath of God on Humanity, the USA and the nations that follow such ways.
Many will not survive it..

USA will likely slide into being socialist state

The Church and Christians will be persecuted in the USA and around the world

But the Goodnews is that the RAPTURE of the saints will Happen and throw the world into greater confusion..

Be Watchful and Prayerful! The RAPTURE is much closer than we think..

The Trump Presidency is a " Mercy Period" for the USA and the World at Large..

Pray! Pray! Pray!

kingxsamz:
You see, you keep getting it wrong.
Abortion is wrong to you because your moral or religious values doesn't condone it.
It is not wrong to me because I don't see anything bad with getting rid of an unwanted
pregnancy.
That's why I said it depends on what you consider wrong.
You consider smoking wrong because it damages one's lungs, but you have forgotten that not every smoker dies young. Also, it's their lungs and not yours. You are not in any position to decide what one should enjoy or do away with.
You can only render advice, but shouldn't want your views to be imposed on people with the law.
That's why I said it's your opinion, but your opinion cannot supercede people's choices. And besides, any who smokes should do it privately, because not everyone likes the smell, especially me.
So when you say a woman must carry a child for 9months because you think it's wrong to do an abortion, then you should also be ready to assist such person, both financially and every other way.

kingxsamz:
Lol...It depends on what you consider as 'wrong'.
You're only seeing it from your own moral, or perhaps religious perspective.
So that's your opinion. You're not determined to tell what's wrong when there's little or no logical explanation to why it's wrong.
I'm sure If I asked you if smoking is wrong, you'd say yes.

kingxsamz:
No, the lives of millions of children suffering from poverty, cancer and other various sicknesses are what's needful.

kingxsamz:
You should read to understand before typing.
Read to understand first.
I said
" If anything I do is hurting someone else, yes deep down, I'll know it's wrong. But if it's not 'HURTING ANYONE' , why should I bother if it's being legalized"?

kingxsamz:
If your 15 year old child got gang raped by several unknown men, and almost died in the process but got pregnant later on, would you keep the baby?
If a family is too poor to cater for themselves that they feed from hand to mouth and one of the daughters got pregnant, do you suggest they keep the baby and let it join in on the suffering?

Lol, It's all talk and all that righteous nonsense until it happens to you or your family member, then you go to your god and ask for forgiveness, then continue criticizing abortion.
If they make it legal, would you hang yourself?
Abeg rest.

wirinet:
Which rights does a foetus have? Maybe the same rights as the millions if sperms you waste while wanking off.
You are just conflating issues to appeal to emotions - emotional blackmail. A foetus is a foetus and not a man or a woman. It becomes a person the moment it leaves the womb of the mother. A 13 year old can never be referred to as a foetus by any logic.

Adakintroy:
Gay is not a person. It' set of compisitory attributes understood as one singularity. A man is a man( sameness) However a man and a woman is two different set compisitory.

This two account for the "whole" no other compisitory excluded. A union of man and a man clearly deny "a sex" inclusivity. It's not equal because it's not complete.


If a gay man sleep with a woman he has perform inclusive act. Remember hetros is a set of compositors in which sex with a woman is one of such compositories. So yes if a gay sleep with a woman, he is no longer gay because gay has a definition already.

Black life's matter but not as whites. Now you can take offence if you want. Because Ideally they are equall but factually there is no evidence to show both are remotely equal.


All things can't be equal. Otherwise we will all be equals.

Am sure your gateman or security in the office don't earn as much as you. So you too listern to yourself. I mean it Listern.

ethicallyright:
Many Nigerian men who complain about Biden have funded the abortion of their girlfriends or one night stand partners who got pregnant.
Legal abortion means that people get to take care of children they are ready for and get rid of those they do not want before they are even born as humans. If the raped girl in Edo made it out alive and she got pregnant for one of the rapists, would you rather she kept the child and be damned by emotions forever while the child's father is not certain but one of three people who gang raped her currently serving life sentences?

Legalizing abortion means protecting the academic career of young female students who were lost in love and risk losing a year at home to nurse babies while the boys who put them in the family way get higher and higher.

Legalizing abortion means that the lives of our females are not ended by quacks who charge expensive rates to help them abort their foetus behind closed doors. We have young girls with blocked fallopian tubes because what could have been a simple process was undertaken by a quack in the dark.

It means that a pregnant woman can walk out of her abusive relationship and end the pain she may carry for 9 months and subsequently forever without being blackmailed for it.

Legalizing abortion makes it clear to the whole world that men only donate their white liquid for fertilization while a woman labours with a protruding stomach for almost 300 days. When a woman can walk into a clinic to buy a card and terminate a pregnancy she is not comfortable with, many men will lose their bargaining and suppression chip.

Serial divorcing of women, overt abuse of members of the press, winning elections on Twitter and uncouth speeches are some of the similarities 45 and FFK share. Any man who has no respect for women would always be against anything that tries to make them free. Even women we are fighting for are too blind to understand.

olumide4christ:
Hmm...this YouTube video you shared is indeed a revelation and a fact that Donald Trump has scammed the Evangelicals and all his supporters by speaking from both sides of his mouth on LGBTQ.
So unfortunate!

cococandy:
Imagine thinking the world will come to an end if other people have the same rights as you.
What a sad sad sad existence.

Same people will fix their mouths to talk about jihadists trying to enforce sharia law all over the world. What’s the difference between you and them?

You want to enforce Christianity on everyone. They want to enforce Islam on everyone. Different sides of same coin.

Hathor5:
I wish I could like this comment a 100 times.