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Nice piece.

GodWrites:
At the start of this argument, you said that something cannot come nothing. In your own words, that is absurd. Now you're bending the rules of your logic to fit your delusion?

What did I tell you about unprovable claims?

If you say God is energy, the first cause of everything, what evidence supports this assertion?

You can't just be making things up based on how you feel, you gotta prove it.

If you can't, then I can dismiss your claims without proof!

What I said in the comment you quoted is enough to show that God (Energy) has no beginning nor end.

But you can believe whatever you like, even though you can't prove that something can come from nothing.

What I have experienced personally in life has shown life is much deeper than science or religion paints it.

LordIsaac:
Nice piece.

Thank you.

gensteejay:
What I said in the comment you quoted is enough to show that God (Energy) has no beginning nor end.

But you can believe whatever you like, even though you can't prove that something can come from nothing.

What I have experienced personally in life has shown life is much deeper than science or religion paints it.

You're delusional and you need psychological help.

gensteejay:
What I said in the comment you quoted is enough to show that God (Energy) has no beginning nor end.

But you can believe whatever you like, even though you can't prove that something can come from nothing.

What I have experienced personally in life has shown life is much deeper than science or religion paints it.

I have taken my time to read all you have written. You practically proved his point right.

When it comes to the question of a "Creator", if you cannot prove what you are saying, no-one knows anything. Best to stop indulging in things you can't defend.

You started your arguments by saying "nothing comes from nothing", then you said the alleged 'God' you are referring to comes from nothing and then you chip in the "First Cause" card.

The funny thing is that you now want the person you are discussing with to show you proof of this:

"If you can show me how it's possible for something to come out of nothing whether quantum-mechanically, or using any concept, I will agree with you that something can exist without a first cause, however logically absurd that sounds."

Lol. You should really be taking time to read the things you post. Your arguments are self-contradictory.

GodWrites:
You're delusional and you need psychological help.

That must be a compliment coming from a dumbo that believes many highly intelligent and highly accomplished scientists and philosophers around the world are stupid for believing the universe has a creator.

If your mental health issue isn't clear to you by now, I'm afraid your condition is incurable.

One unknown, ignorant mofo on Nairaland is saying Einstein, Newton, Leibnitz, Plank, Socrates, Plato, Hypatia, Aristotle, and many other enlightened people, who believed in God, are dumb, and you don't know something is seriously wrong with you?

Lols. While knowledgeable poeple are humble, it's the ignorant, dull ones that wallow in arrogance.

One just has to ignore some fools on Nairaland.

Muurian:
I have taken my time to read all you have written. You practically proved his point right.

When it comes to the question of a "Creator", if you cannot prove what you are saying, no-one knows anything. Best to stop indulging in things you can't defend.

You started your arguments by saying "nothing comes from nothing", then you said the alleged 'God' you are referring to comes from nothing and then you chip in the "First Cause" card.

The funny thing is that you now want the person you are discussing with to show you proof of this:



Lol. You should really be taking time to read the things you post. Your arguments are self-contradictory.

My points are clear and are not contradictory in any way.

I stated what we call reality (the physical worlds) is only a projected reality.

Virtual worlds, bound by space and time.

The real worlds (inner worlds) don't have such restrictions, so time has no meaning there.

In that reality (where the Source or God is), there is no beginning nor end.

gensteejay:
That must be a compliment coming from a dumbo that believes many highly intelligent and highly accomplished scientists and philosophers around the world are stupid for believing the universe has a creator.

If your mental health issue isn't clear to you by now, I'm afraid your condition is incurable.

One unknown, ignorant mofo on Nairaland is saying Einstein, Newton, Leibnitz, Plank, Socrates, Plato, Hypatia, Aristotle, and many other enlightened people, who believed in God, are dumb, and you don't know something is seriously wrong with you?

Lols. While knowledgeable poeple are humble, it's the ignorant, dull ones that wallow in arrogance.

One just has to ignore some fools on Nairaland.

Should I make a list of similar individuals who doesn't believe in God? Stop this fallacy already, I called you to it. And also, go in peace. Our conversation is over!

GodWrites:
The only quick way to spot an intelligent person is to ask if he or she believes in the existence of God. Affirmative means they aren't intelligent yet, otherwise means they are.

gensteejay:
My points are clear and are not contradictory in any way.

I stated what we call reality (the physical worlds) is only a projected reality.

Virtual worlds, bound by space and time.

The real worlds (inner worlds) don't have such restrictions, so time has no meaning there.

In that reality (where the Source or God is), there is no beginning nor end.

Well, if you think so!

But, know that the "First Cause" ish is a christian concept developed by Christians.

You should spend time and read simple arguments against the first cause ish! It is one of the weakest arguments parameters of all time!

GodWrites:
The only quick way to spot an intelligent person is to ask if he or she believes in the existence of God. Affirmative means they aren't intelligent yet, otherwise means they are.

bad guy

GodWrites:
Should I make a list of similar individuals who doesn't believe in God? Stop this fallacy already, I called you to it. And also, go in peace. Our conversation is over!

Your fallacy (that you fail to see) about people being dumb for merely believing in God is what I have issues with.

You can the make the list. That doesn't prove anything.

The reality is there are many highly intelligent and accomplished philosophers, scientists, and inventors that believe/believed in God. Whether you believe that or not is of no importance.

gensteejay:
I'm sure you don't believe this nonsense you typed here.

Better get off your high horse and stop being delusional.

Many people (philosophers, scientists) around the world and in history, who are great achievers and don't even have a specific religion, believe in God (not necessarily Allah, Jesus, Yahweh, or other egocentric human-like beings people worship in religion).

All these are highly intelligent people.

[s]When science is yet to discover and explore even 1% of the universe a[/s]nd a so-called smart person believes something (universe) can come out of nothing and is so certain God doesn't exist.

There is no way you want to make your argument about God's inexistence and rule out this undeniable fact is: For something to exist, it must have a first cause.

You can choose to call the first cause any name you like, such as God, the All, Universe, etc.

Stop being delusional.

don't say what you know nothing about. Stay within the confines of your limited understanding.

Heartlessbanker:
don't say what you know nothing about. Stay within the confines of your limited understanding.

Who be this one? Let me know when you have something meaningful to say.

gensteejay:
Your fallacy (that you fail to see) about people being dumb for merely believing in God is what I have issues with.

You can the make the list. That doesn't prove anything.

T[s]he reality is there are many highly intelligent and accomplished philosophers, scientists, and inventors that believe/believed in God[/s]. Whether you believe that or not is of no importance.

So, because Bill Gates or any famous person believes in God means i should? Do you realise how stupid that sounds? Fallacy ad poppum at its peak here.

gensteejay:
Who be this one? Let me know when you have something meaningful to say.

I generally do not converse with scientific illiterates like yourself, but i couldn't help but notice level of ignorance, reeking from a human being with a brain. It's such a shame.
nb:further mentions will be ignored.

Muurian:
Well, if you think so!

But, know that the "First Cause" ish is a christian concept developed by Christians.

You should spend time and read simple arguments against the first cause ish! It is one of the weakest arguments parameters of all time!

Funny you. Who told you that?

Christianity was only founded around 2000 years ago, but homo sapiens have existed on this planet for over 280,000 years.

Before Christianity, humans worshipped pagan gods (i.e. people that were deified for achieving things no other humans had accomplished in their time).

First Cause, God, heaven, hell, resurrection of a god, soul are all concepts predating Christianity and Islam.

Heartlessbanker:
I generally do not converse with scientific illiterates like yourself, but i couldn't help but notice level of ignorance, reeking from a human being with a brain. It's such a shame.
nb:further mentions will be ignored.

You're one ignorant fellow. Silly comments like this are better ignored.

Scientific illiterates? Lols. Nigeria and mentally unstable folks

Heartlessbanker:
[/quote][quote author=Heartlessbanker post=96698150]So, because Bill Gates or any famous person believes in God means i should? Do you realise how stupid that sounds? Fallacy ad poppum at its peak here.

Don't start what you can't finish.

Better you stay away from my mention, unless you have something reasonable to say.

gensteejay:
Funny you. Who told you that?

Christianity was only founded around 2000 years ago, but homo sapiens have existed on this planet for over 280,000 years.

Before Christianity, humans worshipped pagan gods (people that were deified for achieving things no other humans had accomplished in their time).

First Cause, God, heaven, hell, resurrection of a god, soul are all concepts predating Christianity and Islam.

Okay, let me put it correctly. First Cause argument was publicised and made mainstream by Christians through Thomas Aquinas.

But, you are right. It predates Christianity. But, as you can see, First Cause is an argument that the universe couldn't just be without something starting it. Of course, the argument is flawed because... First Cause continues till infinity!
This is because, the basis of First Cause is that "Nothing Cannot Come From Nothing"

However, what I don't get is why the people proposing "First Cause" theory think it's their religious gods. For all we know, the First Cause could be Santa Claus or that annoying mosquito that want's to suck your blood...or the Flying Spaghetti monster.

Anyway, please when you are talking God, please include the god's name you are talking about in the context so that I will understand it better (whether Yahweh or Allah or Zeus, Amadioha or Ogun.) All of the time, i don't know what people mean by "God" spelled in capital letters. I mean, when you pronounce it, you don't pronounce a capital G!

Muurian:
Okay, let me put it correctly. First Cause argument was publicised and made mainstream by Christians through Thomas Aquinas.

But, you are right. It predates Christianity. But, as you can see, First Cause is an argument that the universe couldn't just be without something starting it. Of course, the argument is flawed because... First Cause continues till infinity!
This is because, the basis of First Cause is that "Nothing Cannot Come From Nothing"

However, what I don't get is why the people proposing "First Cause" theory think it's their religious gods. For all we know, the First Cause could be Santa Claus or that annoying mosquito that want's to suck your blood...or the Flying Spaghetti monster.

Anyway, please when you are talking God, please include the god's name you are talking about in the context so that I will understand it better (whether Yahweh or Allah or Zeus, Amadioha or Ogun.) All of the time, i don't know what people mean by "God" spelled in capital letters. I mean, when you pronounce it, you don't pronounce a capital G!

I am not a religious person, so I don't subscribe to the notion of gods in religions or to many religious concepts.

I don't see God as an entity that has a name. I see it as a thing — a great source of energy without a name, form, language, or religion.

It is existence and not an entity meant to be worshipped, prayed to, and it doesn't interfere with our affairs.

Humans do everything.

gensteejay:
I am not a religious person, so I don't subscribe to the notion of gods in religions or to many religious concepts.

I don't see God as an entity that has a name. I see it as a thing — a great source of energy without a name, form, language, or religion.

It is existence and not an entity meant to be worshipped, prayed to, and it doesn't interfere with our affairs.

Humans do everything.

On this we both agree on 100%.

Muurian:
I have taken my time to read all you have written. You practically proved his point right.

When it comes to the question of a "Creator", if you cannot prove what you are saying, no-one knows anything. Best to stop indulging in things you can't defend.

You started your arguments by saying "nothing comes from nothing", then you said the alleged 'God' you are referring to comes from nothing and then you chip in the "First Cause" card.

The funny thing is that you now want the person you are discussing with to show you proof of this:



Lol. You should really be taking time to read the things you post. Your arguments are self-contradictory.

Very typical of him. He does this steadily in the sports section.
He will just keep digging himself down the rabbit hole. Masking his tomfoolery with logic.

donjazet:
Very typical of him. He does this steadily in the sports section.
He will just keep digging himself down the rabbit hole. Masking his tomfoolery with logic.

Still peddling your silly beliefs all about.

I told you several times to post the facts you've to challenge my posts and you simply vanished into thin air. Lols

Well, I won't be surprised if you support the silly claim by your fellow atheist here, who says anyone that believes in God is not intelligent, even though that's a very stupid thing to say.

So-called smart person is calling lots of highly intelligent scientists and philosophers around the world, who have made immense contributions to science and technology, dumb simply because they believe the universe has a creator.

Lols. Some ignorant atheists on Nairaland feeling like the smartest people in the world

Talk of delusion!

Una wan kill una sef untop who dey intelligent pass.

Being an atheist doesn't make you smart.

Being a theist doesn't make you dumb.


Atheist normally believe they are smarter because they don't believe in any diety but when you take the argument outside religion, this is where theists normally shine.

In most cases, theists arguments are from a weaker point of view and it's not their fault, that's just how belief systems work.



Lastly, the points in the OP no follow.

You were right on so many points.

But as a very highly intelligent person like myself, I do discriminate against girls who have nothing upstairs at all to offer.

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They are always very broke, they don't dress well, they don't carry themselves too high,they no who is smarter than them