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Re: Aguiyi Ironsi Unifies All The Regions To One Entity Not The British by NoIgboSoundTueh: 6:23pm On Jun 07, 2020*

mrvitalis:
Ok let's assume igbos made mistakes but are ready to correct it by calling for division in Nigeria ...my deep question is ..yorubas have access to sea , large population and land , educated population ..why don't they want this country to split
Why do yorubas want one Nigeria when it's obvious oduduwa republic would be better ?

This country is not working for anyone ...no one ...why don't we split and save ourselves the stress ..we owe it to our children

Nigerians don't want Biafra independence because we're concerned about its survival.
Or how can five tiny landlocked states that depend entirely on FG allocations survives on its own.
The only resources found in South east is Coal, a useful product if we're in the 17th century. And of course a cupful of petroleum.
Frankly speakly Igboland is just a few duplex and lot of poverty.
So tell me how Biafra plan to sustain itself when even with the handout coming from Abuja 90% of Igbo ladies have taken to prostitution all over naija to sustain themselves.
In short we don't want biafra to go because we're saving it from itself.

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Re: Aguiyi Ironsi Unifies All The Regions To One Entity Not The British by sarrki(op): 6:24pm On Jun 07, 2020

helinues:
Make I spread my mat on this thread.

NL, beware of my Son, Henry, this land is not for sale.

Re: Aguiyi Ironsi Unifies All The Regions To One Entity Not The British by Jax1: 6:25pm On Jun 07, 2020

sarrki:
Nothing like mistake of 1914 by lord lugard

British caused what They left Nigeria as Regional Entities but johnson Aguiyi ironsi brought Unitary System in 1966

That’s the fact

In May the Eastern region’s consultative assembly authorized Ojukwu to establish a sovereign republic, while, at the same time, the federal military government promulgated a decree dividing the four regions into 12 states, including 6 in the north and 3 in the east, in an attempt to break the power of the regions.

The four regions where divided into 12 states by Gowon
How is Aguiyi Ironsi responsible for that?

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Re: Aguiyi Ironsi Unifies All The Regions To One Entity Not The British by sarrki(op): 6:26pm On Jun 07, 2020

mrvitalis:
Ok let's assume igbos made mistakes but are ready to correct it by calling for division in Nigeria ...my deep question is ..yorubas have access to sea , large population and land , educated population ..why don't they want this country to split
Why do yorubas want one Nigeria when it's obvious oduduwa republic would be better ?

This country is not working for anyone ...no one ...why don't we split and save ourselves the stress ..we owe it to our children

You don’t need the yorubas to secede

Do your homework thoroughly and you will be allowed to go

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Re: Aguiyi Ironsi Unifies All The Regions To One Entity Not The British by sarrki(op): 6:27pm On Jun 07, 2020

Jax1:
In May the Eastern region’s consultative assembly authorized Ojukwu to establish a sovereign republic, while, at the same time, the federal military government promulgated a decree dividing the four regions into 12 states, including 6 in the north and 3 in the east, in an attempt to break the power of the regions.

The four regions where divided into 12 states by Gowon
How is Aguiyi Ironsi responsible for that?

The 1966 coup is a unitary coup

Read the post

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Re: Aguiyi Ironsi Unifies All The Regions To One Entity Not The British by Jax1: 6:30pm On Jun 07, 2020

sarrki:
The 1966 coup is a unitary coup

Read the post

Who created 12 states in Nigeria? That is the crux of the matter

Re: Aguiyi Ironsi Unifies All The Regions To One Entity Not The British by Kwashiman: 6:43pm On Jun 07, 2020

Still blaming Igbos for your woes Nigerians? it's only a Nigerian that will attribute the cause of his present misfortunes, worthlessness and failures to the mistakes made by his great great great grandfathers from way back in 1966 grin

, why didn't all the successive governments (from military to civilian regimes) dominated by the Hausa/Fulani and their Yaribanza slaves fix all the "mistakes" made by Ironsi? a man that didn't even last for 6 months in government before he was killed. Make una cry wolf till death do you part, we must all "enjoy" this one Nigeria together. Awon oloshi buruku grin

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Re: Aguiyi Ironsi Unifies All The Regions To One Entity Not The British by T9ksy(m): 7:48pm On Jun 07, 2020

Kwashiman:
Still blaming Igbos for your woes Nigerians? it's only a Nigerian that will attribute the cause of his present misfortunes, worthlessness and failures to the mistakes made by his great great great grandfathers from way back in 1966 , why didn't all the successive governments (from military to civilian regimes) dominated by the Hausa/Fulani and their Yaribanza slaves fix all the "mistakes" made by Ironsi? a man that didn't even last for 6 months in government before he was killed. Make una cry wolf till death do you part, we must all "enjoy" this one Nigeria together. Awon oloshi buruku

Are you truly sure of the bolded line, above? There's ample evidences that what you asserted above is FALSE and somehow I have a feeling that you know it too, but being the morally-bankrupt and dysfunctional cloned fella that you lot are, you just can't help yourself, can you?

You folks do posses a penchant for the dissemination of fake narratives which you then attempt to force down other's people throat, as the gospel TRUTH.

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Re: Aguiyi Ironsi Unifies All The Regions To One Entity Not The British by nku5: 8:36pm On Jun 07, 2020*

timekeeper1:
LEAVE our Tinubu for us.... Face ur region, Tinubu deny ur barren land of access to sea.... Pained

Tinubu is a criminal

Tinubu was an accountant to drug dealers in USA

Tinubu has brown teeth

Tinubu betrayed Afenifere that first brought him out

Tinub betrayed the cause for restructuring because he thought fulani would give him presidency for being a sellout grin

Tinubu is a curse to southern nigeria tongue

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Re: Aguiyi Ironsi Unifies All The Regions To One Entity Not The British by kingzizzy: 8:43pm On Jun 07, 2020*

Jax1:
In May the Eastern region’s consultative assembly authorized Ojukwu to establish a sovereign republic, while, at the same time, the federal military government promulgated a decree dividing the four regions into 12 states, including 6 in the north and 3 in the east, in an attempt to break the power of the regions.

The four regions where divided into 12 states by Gowon
How is Aguiyi Ironsi responsible for that?

They know the truth but they keep living in lies. They know it was gowon who removed the 4 Regions and created states, they know it was Gowon that took away resource control, they know it was gowon who removed true federalism

But the always like to blame Ironsi for what Gowon did

Re: Aguiyi Ironsi Unifies All The Regions To One Entity Not The British by Nobody: 9:10pm On Jun 07, 2020

mrvitalis:
Ok let's assume igbos made mistakes but are ready to correct it by calling for division in Nigeria ...my deep question is ..yorubas have access to sea , large population and land , educated population ..why don't they want this country to split
Why do yorubas want one Nigeria when it's obvious oduduwa republic would be better ?

This country is not working for anyone ...no one ...why don't we split and save ourselves the stress ..we owe it to our children

You would end up in jail one day, you and your co travellers of Biafra.

Re: Aguiyi Ironsi Unifies All The Regions To One Entity Not The British by Philistine(m): 9:25pm On Jun 07, 2020

mrvitalis:
Ok let's assume igbos made mistakes but are ready to correct it by calling for division in Nigeria ...my deep question is ..yorubas have access to sea , large population and land , educated population ..why don't they want this country to split
Why do yorubas want one Nigeria when it's obvious oduduwa republic would be better ?

This country is not working for anyone ...no one ...why don't we split and save ourselves the stress ..we owe it to our children

Most Yorubas prefer Nigeria than Oduduwa republic. I would rather be ruled by Hausas and Igbos than staying in a country that will be torn between Muric and Afenifere, those guys are worse than Lucifer.

Re: Aguiyi Ironsi Unifies All The Regions To One Entity Not The British by Kwashiman: 4:19am On Jun 08, 2020

T9ksy:
Are you truly sure of the bolded line, above? There's ample evidences that what you asserted above is FALSE and somehow I have a feeling that you know it too, but being the morally-bankrupt and dysfunctional cloned fella that you lot are, you just can't help yourself, can you?

You folks do posses a penchant for the dissemination of fake narratives which you then attempt to force down other's people throat, as the gospel TRUTH.

Where's the lie in what I said? Abi are you so daft and disingenuous that you can't cognitively debunk what I posited?

Re: Aguiyi Ironsi Unifies All The Regions To One Entity Not The British by T9ksy(m): 1:38pm On Jun 08, 2020

Kwashiman:
Where's the lie in what I said? Abi are you so daft and disingenuous that you can't cognitively debunk what I posited?

If you 're sincerely ignorant of what you spew earlier then i suggest you go and ask your "daft and impish" elders.

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Re: Aguiyi Ironsi Unifies All The Regions To One Entity Not The British by Kwashiman: 2:31pm On Jun 08, 2020

T9ksy:
[[s]color=#000099]If you 're sincerely ignorant of what you spew earlier then i suggest you go and ask your "daft and impish" elders. [/color]

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Typical brainless retort

Re: Aguiyi Ironsi Unifies All The Regions To One Entity Not The British by Deadlytruth(m): 6:37am On Dec 26, 2020

nku5:
Do small research that primary school pupils can easily handle but you no gree. You want to blame Ironsi for your woes when it was Gowon that created states and dissolved the regions.

Instead of you to blame that brown toothed, stinking criminal Tinubu for refusing to participate in Goodluck Jonathan's Confab and work for re-establishing the regions you are here chasing shadows of dead men. Tinubu has enslaved his people for the next 100 years at least because he thinks fulani will give him presidency. The narcotics never clear from him eye but it will still clear

Can you kindly explain how Jonathan wanted to return Nigeria to the regional federal system through the ill-concieved 2014 confab?

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Re: Aguiyi Ironsi Unifies All The Regions To One Entity Not The British by cybernaut(m): 7:02am On Dec 26, 2020

Shut . Amalgamation 1914 is what.

Re: Aguiyi Ironsi Unifies All The Regions To One Entity Not The British by Obiobidgbo14: 7:32am On Dec 26, 2020

2mch:
Yoruba’s were the most educated. Not Igbos. Igbos were just nepotistic when they enter power and they started the division in this country along tribal lines even before the wars. You will see Ibo man with certificate he cannot defend working in Civil service. Many higher institutions were in the habit of selling certificates in the East even until recently. They found themselves in power and abused it again by unifying the country for sinister motives but this has proven to be their greatest mistake. They thought they could take advantage and seize the whole country but no tribe in Nigeria can ever achieve that because we are very diverse. Just do your best and leave the position for others, you say no.

When they cry of nepotism and tribalism, I laugh.

Please stop that nonsense,your problem is that are always afraid to compete with the Igbos.You think that the world start and end with liars backstabbing and fake life which you people are seeing as being sophisticated. Take it anywhere Igbos are far far more sincere and trusted people than you people.Who started oluwale
(fake documents).After the war those who were in class 4 in secondary schools became PhD holders just within 3yrs the war lasted.Conspiracy to take over and be the head in government offices.

Re: Aguiyi Ironsi Unifies All The Regions To One Entity Not The British by RevDesm0ndJuju: 7:38am On Dec 26, 2020

mrvitalis:
Ok let's assume igbos made mistakes but are ready to correct it by calling for division in Nigeria ...my deep question is ..yorubas have access to sea , large population and land , educated population ..why don't they want this country to split
Why do yorubas want one Nigeria when it's obvious oduduwa republic would be better ?

This country is not working for anyone ...no one ...why don't we split and save ourselves the stress ..we owe it to our children

Igbo hyoicrisy.

Let us break this country along regional lines and see who will shout mba.

Igbos will fight for one Nijeriya alongside Awusa and Fulanis if Nigeria is to split along the current regional boundaries.

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Re: Aguiyi Ironsi Unifies All The Regions To One Entity Not The British by Miracle2020: 8:24am On Dec 26, 2020

mrvitalis:
U didn't see my comment ? Oh I forgot u are allergic to truth

Why do your people yorubas want one Nigeria ? That's the question u should be asking

why did the igbos wanted one Nigeria before?
Answer this question.

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Re: Aguiyi Ironsi Unifies All The Regions To One Entity Not The British by Miracle2020: 8:29am On Dec 26, 2020

nku5:
Do small research that primary school pupils can easily handle but you no gree. You want to blame Ironsi for your woes when it was Gowon that created states and dissolved the regions.

Instead of you to blame that brown toothed, stinking criminal Tinubu for refusing to participate in Goodluck Jonathan's Confab and work for re-establishing the regions you are here chasing shadows of dead men. Tinubu has enslaved his people for the next 100 years at least because he thinks fulani will give him presidency. The narcotics never clear from him eye but it will still clear

when a kid carry his mum phone to write rubbish.

Re: Aguiyi Ironsi Unifies All The Regions To One Entity Not The British by wirinet(m): 8:29am On Dec 26, 2020

mrvitalis:
Ok let's assume igbos made mistakes but are ready to correct it by calling for division in Nigeria ...my deep question is ..yorubas have access to sea , large population and land , educated population ..why don't they want this country to split.

Why do yorubas want one Nigeria when it's obvious oduduwa republic would be better ?

It's good some of you are beginning to admit that it was Igbos that started this unitary rubbish.... my own question is that why are you guys so obsessed and concerned about what Yoruba wants. Yorubas are but just one tribe out of dozens in Nigeria, how many of those other tribes wants the country to split. Besides right from the days of Awolowo, Yorubas have made it clear that they are fine with either of the options. If Nigeria should split they are OK with and if the others want unity, they are fine with it also. But, they would not remain if any part is allowed to go. So let yorubas fight their own course and you guys concentrate on yours. You can expect Yorubas (or even Binis ) to fight your own cause.

This country is not working for anyone ...no one ...why don't we split and save ourselves the stress ..we owe it to our children

That's from your own personal view. Many Igbos especially the political, traditional, business and religious elites, would not agree with you. Nigeria is working fine in their own opinion.

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Re: Aguiyi Ironsi Unifies All The Regions To One Entity Not The British by nku5: 8:32am On Dec 26, 2020

Deadlytruth:
Can you kindly explain how Jonathan wanted to return Nigeria to the regional federal system through the ill-concieved 2014 confab?

No vex. First tell me how the 2014 confab was ill-conceived then I will answer

Re: Aguiyi Ironsi Unifies All The Regions To One Entity Not The British by nku5: 8:45am On Dec 26, 2020

Miracle2020:
when a kid carry his mum phone to write rubbish.

You are an empty spectator. Just read and learn

Re: Aguiyi Ironsi Unifies All The Regions To One Entity Not The British by Miracle2020: 8:52am On Dec 26, 2020

And Igbo Man naturally have the spirit of greediness, he always wants to have what others have but he hate when other try do the same thing.
Because of greediness, zik push for amalgamation
Because of greediness Ironsi decided to bring unity government because at that time igbos region wasn't producing anything, only the north and west were doing good in agriculture. At that time majority of government officials and military officers were igbos so he thought igbos will continue to rule others.
Because of greediness ojukwu decided to embark on a foolish war with the federal republic. When ojukwu discovered that the Niger delta has some oils, he wanted to have everything.
When Niger delta decided to break from Nigeria, ojukwu arrested their leader(BORO) and imprisoned him because he (ojukwu) want to have the Niger delta oil.
Ojukwu greediness led to the dead of 3 million igbos.
When Tafawa Balewa was the prime minister, many of his officials were igbos. Upon that, the igbos were not satisfied, they went ahead to killed him and other northern/Western leaders.
The yorubas and the north decided to accept and accommodate the igbos after the war but now the igbos want to take over the Yoruba land because of their usual greediness.

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Re: Aguiyi Ironsi Unifies All The Regions To One Entity Not The British by orisa37: 9:28am On Dec 26, 2020

REASONABLE POST.

Re: Aguiyi Ironsi Unifies All The Regions To One Entity Not The British by orisa37: 9:37am On Dec 26, 2020

REASONABLE POST. THE BRITISH HAVE DONE NOTHING WRONG. EVEN WHEN THEY STEM-CELLED BUHARI, THEY DIDN'T IMPOSE HIM ON US. THEY JUST STAY ALOOF AND WATCH US EXPERIMENT THE NEW PRESIDENTIAL ROBOT.

Re: Aguiyi Ironsi Unifies All The Regions To One Entity Not The British by nku5: 9:53am On Dec 26, 2020

"I am promulgating a Decree which will divide
the Federal republic into Twelve States. The twelve states will be six in the present Northern Region, three in the present Eastern Region, the Mid-West will remain as it is, the Colony Province of the Western Region and Lagos will form a new Lagos State and the Western Region will otherwise remain as it is" - Yakubu Gowon May 27th 1967

Re: Aguiyi Ironsi Unifies All The Regions To One Entity Not The British by Deadlytruth(m): 10:11am On Dec 26, 2020

nku5:
No vex. First tell me how the 2014 confab was ill-conceived then I will answer

Here is how:

1. It wasn't his idea originally as it was the duo of Okurounmu and Nwabueze that had to visit him twice to talk into his head the need for restructuring through a confab.

2. By his own words he left no one in doubt that deep down in his mind he didn't share the belief that we needed a constitution review as he declared to the public that in his own personal conviction, he believed that our problem is not with the structure but is all about corruption which once killed, every other thing would magically begin to fall into place.

3. He added that he had to reluctantly midwife the 2014 confab as a democrat who should at least harken to the voice of the people even though he was personally against it.

4. In the area of delegation to the said confab, against the universal democratic doctrine of selecting such through a process by which the people should freely elect their representative delegates, he handpicked over 50% of the delegates and left the rest to the governors who merely used it as capital to reward their political loyalists, concubines and kinsmen considering the humongous monetary package voted for each participants by the FG.

Illiterate and dictatorial as Abacha was, he allowed delegation to the 1995 Constitutional Conference to be by election by the people in the various federal constituencies nation wide and never handpicked a single one of them but in 2014 we had a supposed civilian and PhD flouting democrat hand-picking delegates to a constitutional conference and yet you want me to believe that the confab in question was not ill-concieved?

5. Even in hand-picking delegates to the 2014 confab he still made another fundamental error by selecting individuals in representative capacity of entities like political parties, civil society groups, Nigeria Bar Association, Nigeria Army, Nigeria Medical Association, etc . Now, the irony here is that the issues which the confab was meant to address are all ethnicity based and had absolutely nothing to do with these artificial professional groupings hence delegation to the confab should have as well been ethnicity based hence the need to have allowed the people freely determine their own representatives through elections. We all know that the threat to Nigeria's existence revolves mainly around interethnic resentment and strife from Ijaw-Itsekiri wars, Fulani pastoralists vs Middle belt farmers, to Igbo vs Yoruba political antipathy, etc.
Lawyers and Doctors have never had issues as professional groups, neither have soldiers and political parties ever been involved in any battle for supremacy. So of what essence was it choosing delegates on behalf of these professionals bodies if not for the ulterior motive of merely using the confab to buy time for his 2014 reelection ambition?

6. On the opening day of the confab, Jonathan went there and in his opening speech advised the handpicked delegates to use 75% as the basis for consensus on any matter. Knowing how unrealistic such proposal was, the likes of Late Idris Kutigi tried to bring it back down to the normal universal 66.67% but met a brick wall as one Adamawa traditional ruler handpicked by either Jonathan or the Adamawa governor insisted that the president had himself set the basis figure hence any attempt to change it would get them to withdraw their participation in the entire process. The question now is this, we all know that even the universal democratic 66.67% (i.e. two third majority) basis for consensus is difficult to realize most times, then why should a PhD holder propose 75% if he truly wanted any consensus to be reached on any of the solutions that might be proposed to any of the nation's problems in the confab? Which known principle of democracy in the universe uses 75% as basis for consensus in any parliament? If he felt ⅔ majority was not democratic enough, then why couldn't he just propose 100% since he wanted to be a perfect democrat?

7. While the ill-concieved confab finally started going on Jonathan publicly declared that he would present the final report of it to the national assembly for onward action. Now, who back then didn't know that the Corrupt National Assembly was and will ever remain solidly in favour of the status quo hence never allow such report see the light of the day? Moreover the part of the country averse to restructuring has the majority in both chambers of the national legislature, so what will make a PhD holder wish to take the confab report to that national assembly if not for the wish that the essence of the confab be ultimately defeated in the end?
In the first instance it was the Nigerian populace (not the national assembly) that asked for the confab hence common sense and sincere commitment to it dictated that the report be taken back to those same masses for deliberation and adoption or rejection through a referendum or plebiscite.

8. Then the worst of all: Jonathan listed no-go-areas for the delegates, and those his no go areas happened to be the most potent of the very issues around which the impending doom for Nigeria revolved and yet you kept on believing he had good intentions behind that confab?
I fear who no fear you o!

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Re: Aguiyi Ironsi Unifies All The Regions To One Entity Not The British by OAFMods: 10:19am On Dec 26, 2020

Igbos will need to be reprimanded for that mistake before jumping to correction. When foolish Igbos like you are ready to have sincere conversation to bring about dissolution of Nigeria you will start posting articles on NL about what your punishment should be for the chaos your brought about. Only after then can we start the conversation about a solution to the problem your tribe brought about, if it will be dissolution of tye country or another round of wiping to ensure your head is correct from Igboland.

mrvitalis:
Ok let's assume igbos made mistakes but are ready to correct it by calling for division in Nigeria ...my deep question is ..yorubas have access to sea , large population and land , educated population ..why don't they want this country to split
Why do yorubas want one Nigeria when it's obvious oduduwa republic would be better ?

This country is not working for anyone ...no one ...why don't we split and save ourselves the stress ..we owe it to our children

Re: Aguiyi Ironsi Unifies All The Regions To One Entity Not The British by 7lives: 10:29am On Dec 26, 2020

nku5:
Do small research that primary school pupils can easily handle but you no gree. You want to blame Ironsi for your woes when it was Gowon that created states and dissolved the regions.

Instead of you to blame that brown toothed, stinking criminal Tinubu for refusing to participate in Goodluck Jonathan's Confab and work for re-establishing the regions you are here chasing shadows of dead men. Tinubu has enslaved his people for the next 100 years at least because he thinks fulani will give him presidency. The narcotics never clear from him eye but it will still clear

Finally the truth is out, Tinubu dismantled regionalism. grin

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You people that always want to suppress and subjugate others on the pretex of loving the country, now desperately wanted out because your agenda backfired.
E ti ri nkankan, mariwo le ri, e si ma ri eegun. grin

Why did Uncle Tom Azikiwe insisted that Southern Nigeria independence will not happen, because the North said they are not ready?.
You want to tell me that upon all the grammer you are blowing on nairaland, you don't know that Nigeria's independence was delayed for two years?.
Your fore fathers were so obsessed with Nigeria because they were control freeks, they think everyone is a mumu and so it will be better if Igbos manage Nigeria.
Did Zik not try to become premier of Western Nigeria at the expense of a brilliant mind like Awolowo?.
Did your people not labeled Awo a tribalist?, did Zik not cornived with Ahmadu Bello to cut Okun and Igbomina people out of South West?.
Are Okun and Igbomina people not relating with their brothers is the SW today.
Zik also cornived with Ahmadu Bello to create midwest, today have the people of midwest agreed that they are Igbos?.
The coup plotters of 1966, how did Okpara escaped them?.
History is bae because it will say it as it is.
Your fathers betrayed everybody and you children are blaming others for your fore fathers greediness.
Eye don open, everyone is minding their bussiness, let Igbos mind their business and live Yoruba matter like Tinubu alone.
If not last last na plenty buckets Nigerians go buy for Igbos, so that you people can cry well well.

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