₦airaland Forum

Basher8583:
That was not murder. It was pure revenge.
For killing unarmed and innocent northern leaders.

They were not innocent...it's like saying Lai is a saint

22 others died.
But your revenge coup was worse because 180 soldiers were killed

ibietela2:
Northern Nigeria was already part of the country.
Ojukwu didn't take part but he was aware and stalled it until Ironsi took power

Nothern Nigeria wanted to break out, the Second coup was to break out but since they got their means easily, the have to look inward. That's shows how Ironsi the man care-free Sold the whole effort of the coup. Ojukwu did the right thing but allowing Ironsi to mess up by forcing decree 34 upon the country was a big error.

Kunlevic1984:
Nigeria is neither a nation nor a state! It is a mere geographical location occupied by various Units that could have become a state on their own. However, those units were put together for momentary and exploitative interest without considering their future. A lot of issues are involved here but the traditional consequence is what Nigeria is encountering in the act of modern governance as leaders function along ethnic line since inception. Social Contract is gives birth to state but it does not have space looking at Nigeria history. And that is why patriotism has been on holiday. WAY OUT: We need to consider the opinion of Claude Ake (1996b: 69) when he noted that all we believe as fact and knowledge must undergo endogenitism I.e total breaking down of we see as part of us as they never originated from Africa. Nigeria did not originate from nigerian people. It must be destroyed and rebuild in a way that allows structure and institutions to relate in conformity with the demand of modern governance. However, asking these present to consider is like telling them to comit suicide because they have become predatory in nature. Thank you

Thank you.
Most of our politicians are working for their pocket instead of the nation

ADAMUdaCOWBOY:
Shebi Ironsi wey organise the death of Sardauna et al no be murderer? Dont tell me he did not participate in the coup else thunder will fire your mouth.

Cow he didn't participate

omoiyamayor:
The initiator of coup to Nigeria's Democracy, welldone Mr Ironsi,we are still facing the consequences of your action.

. Read educative books, you won't, ask educated people to enlighten you, you won't, read newspapers or listen to news on radio, no way, watch ait or channels MBA, na to dey nairaland dey disgrace your self upandan

EMMAUGOH:
Nothern Nigeria wanted to break out, the Second coup was to break out but since they got their means easily, the have to look inward. That's shows how Ironsi the man care-free method guy Sold the whole effort of the coup. Ojukwu did the right thing but allowing Ironsi to mess up by forcing decree 34 upon the country was a big error.

They wanted to break away after the second coup and the reason for the progrom but the resources in the south was way important.

I blame Ojukwu for delaying the breakaway of Biafra.

Just like he did during the first coup

BafanaBafana:
People like Ademoyega and Nzeogwu were made to believe they were carrying out a revolution. They didn't know they were ignorantly acting a script by Igbo soldiers and politicians

Another person trying to twist history to favour his taste

OAFMods:
Story for your father to wail about just like Buhari never took part in the coup that brought him to power but foolish souls like you n many from you tribe will aurbie against that.

Mtcheeeeeeew

BafanaBafana:
Then how did he become head of state?
Ironsi staged a coup within a coup.

They missed him but am sure the person who was sent to finish him let him escape

Drabeey:
So if this set of people wake up now let's question them. One more guy Ifeajuna

Who are they

maak400:
I’m learning a lot from you boss.
At this point, I strongly want Nigeria to break up based on tribe/ethnicity so that the new nations formed will have a lot in common due to a shared culture and traditions.

Yoruba, Igbo, Hausa, and other minority tribes should go their separate ways like the former Soviet Union.

I do not want restructuring or regional government because Nigeria shouldn’t have been amalgamated in the first place, it was a grave mistake by lord luggard.

What do you think?

It should have remained north and south

Deadlytruth:
Well, even though Lord Luggard made that selfish mistake, the likes of Ahmadu Bello, Tafawa Balewa, Enahoro and Awolowo later realized it was a mistake and therefore made proposals for correcting the mistake either by way of de-amalgamation or making provision for secession clause in our future constitution to give legal backing to whichever tribe or region would later want out. But Igbos under the leadership of Azikiwe, Ojukwu and Ironsi at different times thwarted all these efforts by killing the some of the proponents and instigating the British to jail them at different times. In a particular instance they even arrested and sentenced to death by hanging the first person to attempt secession physically (Isaac Adaka Boro).In addition Aguiyi Ironsi even went as far as promulgating Anti-secession Decree.
But today the tide had turned against them and rather than confess to all these evils they did in the past and apologise to other tribes for laying the foundation of an indivisible Nigeria, they keep playing the victim card for losing innocent lives in a war they caused. Who takes such people seriously? In actual fact they are only asking for secession now just because they have lost control at the center. Visit NL threads on the dissolution of Nigeria when Jonathan was in power and you will be shocked how much they spoke in favour of one-Nigeria like they did during the colonial era when it appeared to them that their gods would give them Nigeria to dominate post independence.

Boro died in the war, he was only imprisoned

ibietela2:
Why are you blaming the governors

let me use Niger Delta i grow up in.wat impact militias agitation did to Niger Delta pple none.why because of the governors.dnt be deceive governors dey get allocation. well.nd they hold 80percent of the development.during Jonathan time do u knw hw much was alsllocated to delta state.about 200billions annually Nd how ex governor uduahan looted.go to asaba Benin is beta than asaba.when all governors knw DT Nigeria has had enuf is then u see the rightful development we all deceive.REMEMBER THE NORTH CONTROL ASO VILLA BACKED BY THE NORTHERN ELITES.THE SOUTHERN GOVERNOR CORRUPTION IS GIVING NORTHERN GOVERNOR AN EDGE.BUT IMAGINF LAGOS STATE OR DELTA STATE OR ANAMBRA DEVELOP EVERY THING GO CHANGE .No bBDY GO LOOK AT ASO ROCK EVERY BDY GO LOOK E REGION.IS PDP GOVERNOR POOR PERFORMANCE DT AFFECTED JONATHAN.EVEN WHEN NIGER DELTA PPLE STOOD BEHIND PDP THE GOVERNORS ARE STILL FUCKING UP EXCEPT AKWA IBOM ND EDO GOVERNORS

Deadlytruth:
You are very wrong. The chief architect of the ill-advised coup was Ifeajuna. Ojukwu made this abundantly clear in one of his memos. The logical analysis of the circumstances support Ojukwu's position on who hatched and led the coup and here is the logical question:
How could Nzeogwu who was thousands of miles away in Kaduna have been the architect and leader of a coup plot hatched and nurtured in Lagos?

He was the leader

ibietela2:
They wanted to break away after the second coup and the reason for the progrom but the resources in the south was way important.

I blame Ojukwu for delaying the breakaway of Biafra.

Just like he did during the first coup

Ojukwu ego entered the struggle and couldn't read matters properly. Even during the second call for negotiation when he had an upper hand, He refused to heed to advice of Azikiwe. That's when the gentleman have to change his loyalty. Ojukwu ego sabotaged the effort either way.

RevDesm0ndJuju:
I did a thread outlining how the Buhari govt is using bankruptcy through debt amassing to ensure that all states key into the Nigerian project. This is exactly what you posted about Ironsi's centrist govt that made regions dependent on the central govt.

Take example the case of Ebonyi or Osun states in the south. These two states can not survive without federal allocation but these two are the most indebted states in Nigeria..

Will an Osun man or Ebonyi person support nigerias balkanization when their very existence depends on the federal Govt skewed sharing formula?

Buhari and the north are approving and standing as guarrantors to states borrowing because the more indebted they become the more they will rely on the FG and the skewed sharing formula.

They should not exist in the first place.
Creating states that cannot stand on their own is rubbish.

GeneralPula:
Wow, I didn’t know this... Somehow, I knew what the north is doing today, they must have learned it from the western leaders..

I don’t even understand why Nigeria can’t give Igbos Biafra.. The yeeboz are more wicked than Northerners if given power.

Another thing I don’t understand is why Yoruba leaders have been working towards one Nigeria? Why must it be one Nigeria? Why can’t we break away?

You just believed a LIE

wink2015:
The same Danjuma is now enjoying NIGER DELTA oil block despite his crime

Buhari
IBB
Gowon
David Mark
Etc

jneutron4000:
Yoruba are not working towards one Nigeria and the North know this fact. Now the system we Practice today where the Presidency control almost everything is the hand work of Aguiyi Ironsi an Igbo man. Are you even aware that there was a time in this country history that the Niger Delta people wanted out of Nigeria, it was the Igbos who forced them, killed some them to still be in Nigeria. Yoruba desire we go back to Regionalism or better still Oduduwa Republic, the Igbos or the other hand are not asking for Igbo speaking territories as a Nation they wish for it to break out of Nigeria rather they want a Biafra that must also include other non Igbo territories, now you see where the criminality lies? Knowing fully well that Niger Delta or SS ethnicities do not wish to be part of it and will always wish to have an independence state/ region of their own. Till date, it is only the Igbos you will find spreading all across Nigeria, does that really shows that they truly want out of Nigeria? The Igbos are the force that is making dividing Nigeria very difficult, Imagine everyone stays back in their region, and the Hausa/fulanis are saying shit, what we would all just do in our respective regions in to take total control of our spaces, stop anyone who is not from your place taking your resources, controlling your security etc and Nigeria will just naturally divide. Yoruba leaders are playing politics, and if a proper Yoruba man gets to power today, I can assure you that 70% he would return Nigeria back to Regional government where regions, states and the people will take back control of all what Aguiyi Ironsi took away through decree 34.

Hausa and Fulani travel as well

Ogaonos:
let me use Niger Delta i grow up in.wat impact militias agitation did to Niger Delta pple none.why because of the governors.dnt be deceive governors dey get allocation. well.nd they hold 80percent of the development.during Jonathan time do u knw hw much was alsllocated to delta state.about 200billions annually Nd how ex governor uduahan looted.go to asaba Benin is beta than asaba.when all governors knw DT Nigeria has had enuf is then u see the rightful development we all deceive.REMEMBER THE NORTH CONTROL ASO VILLA BACKED BY THE NORTHERN ELITES.THE SOUTHERN GOVERNOR CORRUPTION IS GIVING NORTHERN GOVERNOR AN EDGE.BUT IMAGINF LAGOS STATE OR DELTA STATE OR ANAMBRA DEVELOP EVERY THING GO CHANGE .No bBDY GO LOOK AT ASO ROCK EVERY BDY GO LOOK E REGION.IS PDP GOVERNOR POOR PERFORMANCE DT AFFECTED JONATHAN.EVEN WHEN NIGER DELTA PPLE STOOD BEHIND PDP THE GOVERNORS ARE STILL FUCKING UP EXCEPT AKWA IBOM ND EDO GOVERNORS

The system enables them

EMMAUGOH:
Ojukwu ego entered the struggle and couldn't read matters properly. Even during the second call for negotiation when he had an upper hand, He refused to heed to advice of Azikiwe. That's when the gentleman have to change his loyalty. Ojukwu ego sabotaged the effort either way.

I cried when I read the part.
Hesitated twice

RevDesm0ndJuju:
Decree 34 was written on Jan 16. A day after the coup but was kept secret up till March when Ironsi started hinting about it in his broadcast

Ironsi didn't come to power by mistake. He was part of an elaborate Igbo coup.

So why didn't they mention him

isthatso:
it was part of the Ibo agenda to dominate Nigeria. It's why they fell out with the balewa regime, it's why they didnt align with Awo when they had the chance, its why Sardauna warned about them, it's why they staged the coup, it's why they always fail at politics because they must always have their way. . Everywhere the ibo man goes he wants to be no1, Sardauna said it in his famous video. If you look around Nigeria today you will see he is not wrong. It's also why the North will never hand over to an ibo.

Sarduna who was part of the problem

DestroyEvil:
God bless you!!! Igbos can lie too much! The satanic souls called Igbos always twist Narratives and manipulative History to make them look as saints and pain Yorubas who were the true Saints as evil.

Afonja envy go kill u like awolowo

JudasNaCarrot:
You are such a foolish, ignorant and idiotic THING.

You think everyone in this faceless forum is Igbo....shame on you for displaying your brainless self online.

What did Ironsi do...what was his crime that he was brutally murdered like the same soldiers murdered the politicians during the first coup.....ok the deed bieng done should have ended there. Why carry out pogrom on innocent people.

What was Ojukwu's crime, ok you carried out a coup and killed the head of state, why carry out pogrom on his people..... innocent people.
He refused to recognize Gowon as head of state and demanded that the next highest ranking military officer who happens to be a Yoruba man, Ademulegun should take over, instead the man ran away to London.

There was disagreement and a peace deal was brokered, why didn't Yakubu "Jack " Gowon honour the agreement.

Since after the civil war ended in January 1970, what has changed.. nothing. The Igbos are, and have been consistently marginalized. They were vanquished and have never been allowed to rise again.

Truth be told, what the Igbo officers (4 majors of Igbo extraction and 1 major of Yoruba) did in 1966 was very bad. All the killings was one sided. The killings of defenceless politicians is totally wrong and the killers should have been arrested and brought to Justice, executed. Ironsi failed to do all that not because he is in support of his own people's deed but because he was being modest and a civilized General but that was not what Nigeria need at that time.....she needs a tough leader who can stand and call a spade a spade.

Fool go and ask your parents to educate you very well before you come online to spew rubbish.

The progrom started before the coup 30k people
On the day of the coup 180 soldiers who are not Fulani or Yoruba were killed.

One of the majors is from Delta

ibietela2:
Hausa and Fulani travel as well

Yeah I know, but you will hardly see Hausa/fulanis building and investing in other regions, because they are cautious if the fact that Nigeria is not truly united that's why they easily leave any region once they know they are not welcome anymore, all they might have as a property might be only their Okada. But that can't be said for Igbos.

jneutron4000:
Yeah I know, but you will hardly see Hausa/fulanis building and investing in other regions, because they are cautious if the fact that Nigeria is not truly united that's why they easily leave any region once they know they are not welcome anymore, all they might have as a property might be only their Okada. But that can't be said for Igbos.

Hehehehehehehehehehe.... I know
They won't learn from history

BafanaBafana:
Gowon was the second in command to Brigadier Maimalari, the GOC of the federal guards in Lagos. Maimalari was killed by his own ADC leaving Gowon in charge of the fighting troops in Lagos.
Now Ironsi was informed about the coup, he got to his office and was drinking tea and eating biscuits and studying the map of Lagos for 2 hours while the coup plotters were on rampage.
Gowon was not informed about the coup, he was woken by the commotion in the barracks, he went straight to the command headquarters and saw the General trying to figure out what to do, he was briefed and told the men would be ready to go out in 2 hours. He told them to get ready in 20 minutes. He led men to the barracks and secured it, led men to the officers mess and released some prisoners held by the mutineers, he organised check points and road blocks all around Lagos, this suffocated ifeajuana and his gang and they ran away

The bolded showed the poster of the above crap is in the wrong section of nairaland. GOC for federal guards?

OROSUNBOLB:
Adekunle Fajuyi,undoubtedly, one of the real but unsung heroes of Nigeria. A brave soldier and an Omoluabi per excellence !

He laid his life for his country, his boss (an Igbo man - Ironsi) and to uphold the professionalism of his profession ! [b] What a man ! When the military killer party arrived at the government house in Agodi,Ibadan,they pleaded with him to hand over Ironsi to them. [/b]He declined by informing them that Ironsi was his guest and that he was responsible for his safety. He said he would rather die with him than to hand him over to them. They were both executed thereafter.

How do we define bravery again ? Isn't courage in the face of a certain calamity ? Col. Iluyomade braved all odds to face battalions of invading Biafran army at Ore with less than 200 men ! He knew he was grossly outnumbered and that the equipments at his disposal were no match for the biafrans but he told his men to hold their lines and fight ! He won the battle.

MKO Abiola refused to give up on the mandate freely given to him by Nigerians. He refused to back down even in the face of death. He did not run away cowardly and even refused political asylums offered by the world powers. Today,he is the father of the nation's democracy.

Yorubas are great,courageous and brave people who will never run away in the midst of battles. As a people,we are lovers of peace because we have paid our dues on the battlefield. We fought war more than any tribe in Africa.

I love Yoruba people, I love my people !

The bolded is pitifully laughable. The crap concocted by the western Nigerians regional gazette of 1967 to appear relevant instead cowardice has found home in the mind of lazy peeps. Does the writer of the above nonsense know anything about the military talk less coup?

Dedetwo:
The bolded showed the poster of the above crap is in the wrong section of nairaland. GOC for federal guards?

When I read that thing I nearly spat out the beer in my mouth to laugh

Dedetwo:
[s]
The bolded showed the poster of the above crap is in the wrong section of nairaland. GOC for federal guards?[/s]

Mtcheeew

Deadlytruth:
If it wasn't Ironsi that dismantled the regions with Decree 34, then how come in going to Aburi summit, the first item on the agenda was the abrogation of all Ironsi's decrees?

Secondly, if Ironsi didn't dismantle the regions through his Unification Decree, then why did he throughout his May 24 1966 national broadcast keep on referring to the regions as "former regions"? Also, why did he argue in that broadcast that regional system had caused tribalism and had to give way to a system that would engender nationalism spirit in the citizenry?
Why did he change the official name of Nigeria from "Federal Republic of Nigeria* to just "Republic of Nigeria"?
Removing the adjective "Federal" from the official name meant he no longer recognized the regions.

On the Gowon angle: he (Gowon) on getting to power immediately began to reverse Ironsi's demolition of the regions. In fact he had restored the regions and returned their autonomy to them half way but had to halt it because of Ojukwu's intransigence about Biafra.
Mind you in addition that Gowon's states creation was not out of place as the non-wazobians of the three regions had been agitating for their own regions in order to free themselves from wazobia domination.
Moreover, Gowon's states enjoyed autonomy hence weren't really different from the regions unlike the groups of provinces which Ironsi broke the regions into and stripped them completely of their autonomy by unifying their civil services, imposing governors on them whom he asked to be reporting to him at the center thus killing the spirit of federalism in the country.

In further confirmation that it was Ironsi that dismantled the regions, here is a link to an interview granted by Philip Asiodu revealing how Ojukwu told him of the plan of him and Ironsi to abolish the regions within six months of their Igbo dominated government:

https://www.sunnewsonline.com/impunity-killing-nigeria-phillip-asiodu/



Please note where the report reads:

Emeka Ojukwu and myself were very good friends in school, Kings College, Lagos, and Oxford University. In fact when the coup happened, he wanted me to join him in Enugu and I told him that I was not a regional man. And Ojukwu told me ‘we shall abolish the regions within 6 months

NB: Philip Asiodu who made this revelation is an Igbo man and the Sun Newspaper which carries is owned by another Igbo man - Orji Uzor Kalu hence the usual accusation of Yoruba (Western) Press propaganda will not hold water here.

Please also check my next comment below and explain what exactly Ironsi meant with the bolded lines of his May 24 national broadcast if you insist he didn't abolish the regions.

We thank God that the deception of pathological liar Igbos that always twist History to deceive gullible people is being fully exposed.