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Re: Obasanjo: My 2 Parents Are From Abeokuta, I Bear Owu Tribal Marks by Dchair2: 10:35am On Dec 29, 2020
DuBLINGreenb:
Old man NO BODY CARES stop seeking relevance, you had your time in the sun now let others have theirs
Are you yourself relevant? Obj is even more relevant that your entire linage
Re: Obasanjo: My 2 Parents Are From Abeokuta, I Bear Owu Tribal Marks by HandsomeBlack: 10:39am On Dec 29, 2020
LegendHero:
You can fight for Nigeria interest and still be conscious of serving Yoruba interest.

It is only the Southerners that always think that you must forget your source because you want to be pro-Nigerian, the Northerners understood that game better than us.
Re: Obasanjo: My 2 Parents Are From Abeokuta, I Bear Owu Tribal Marks by Phut(f): 10:39am On Dec 29, 2020
unshakablejihad:
no plz u can hv ur obj...yorubas hv been knwn since time in memorial to be dangerously ugly so inconclusion obj has no bloodties with the Igbos but with the yorubas...

abobaku amaka.
It should be: Abobaku Ajoka.
Re: Obasanjo: My 2 Parents Are From Abeokuta, I Bear Owu Tribal Marks by Agbegbaorogboye: 10:45am On Dec 29, 2020
josite:
jakande wasn't flamboyant.google okote eboh to have the full meaning of a flamboyant Nigerian politician,jakande drives a crown when he was governor and he built poultry sheds for us to school in during his tenure.he was a man of no class.
Apologies sir. And I stand corrected. I actually used flamboyant to reference his political and governance style and not necessarily his lifestyle.
That said, I wonder if crown was a classy car in those days or not
Re: Obasanjo: My 2 Parents Are From Abeokuta, I Bear Owu Tribal Marks by ChengHun(m): 10:47am On Dec 29, 2020
Olusegun Arinze Chukwusanjo
Re: Obasanjo: My 2 Parents Are From Abeokuta, I Bear Owu Tribal Marks by SaintBeehot(m): 10:51am On Dec 29, 2020
post=97506643:
Keep fooling yourself we know Ijebus are Sudanese in Yoruba land
noise maker, go and educate yourself.

Re: Obasanjo: My 2 Parents Are From Abeokuta, I Bear Owu Tribal Marks by ElValiente(m): 10:52am On Dec 29, 2020
NwaNimo1:
http://saharareporters.com/2020/12/28/my-two-parents-are-abeokuta-i-bear-owu-tribal-marks-obasanjo-counters-igbo-ancestry
This man will never say or do anything without mentioning the West. Agent 1 in action. If you know you know grin grin
Re: Obasanjo: My 2 Parents Are From Abeokuta, I Bear Owu Tribal Marks by simbrixton2: 10:54am On Dec 29, 2020
LegendHero:
Ebora Owu.

Although I don’t seems to align with your political school of thought but anyone saying you’re not Yoruba deserves to be taken to Aro and locked up forever.

With regards to the philosophy you mentioned, it’s an insult to even compare you to Awolowo because what Awo did for the Yorubas several decades ago, you haven’t done one-tenth of it so it’s better you continue to claim that nationalistic ideology like you always do.
obasanjo is igbo bro we need to deal with facts actually and remove sentiments asides
Re: Obasanjo: My 2 Parents Are From Abeokuta, I Bear Owu Tribal Marks by simbrixton2: 10:57am On Dec 29, 2020
nerd004:
How can some people believe that Obj is from Anambra....A man with an Owu tribal mark....married to Taiwo Obasanjo(a family member)... Even though I don't like Obj but to deny his Yoruba background is the height of foolishness & imbicity

Ipob through its efulefu agent spreading Fake news, foolish Ojukwu & Adefuye propagating nonsense....

Imagine nonsense ,,Buhari is Jubril from Sudan... Nonsense of the highest order from Brainwashed IPIGs and it's stupid leader Mazi Nnamdi Kanu
oga i be yoruba obasanjo is not yoruba lets stop believing in sentiments
Re: Obasanjo: My 2 Parents Are From Abeokuta, I Bear Owu Tribal Marks by simbrixton2: 10:59am On Dec 29, 2020
ChiefJusticeFuc:
Obasanjo and Fela may be miles apart but there is one thing they know very well about the Yoruba and that is that the Yoruba will only praise and show support to you when they are benefitting directly from you.

No single Yoruba elder spoke up when both Obasanjo and Fela were detained in prison.

Like Obasanjo, Fela was hated by majority of Yorubas and only readopted when he died. They will do same for Obasanjo just as they did with Abiola.

Obasanjo is a very wise man. Being a General is not in any way or form to be rekless. He knew nothing will come out of a struggle by the Yorubas to leave Nigeria other than a big loss. As an Army General, he knows where the strenght of the army is and that is the Awusa Fulani Muslim north and knows very well the Yoruba nation doesn't stand a chance.
clearly you know nothing about us
Re: Obasanjo: My 2 Parents Are From Abeokuta, I Bear Owu Tribal Marks by twilliamx(m): 11:00am On Dec 29, 2020
We donate him to Anambra
Re: Obasanjo: My 2 Parents Are From Abeokuta, I Bear Owu Tribal Marks by sangresan(m): 11:02am On Dec 29, 2020
NwaNimo1:
http://saharareporters.com/2020/12/28/my-two-parents-are-abeokuta-i-bear-owu-tribal-marks-obasanjo-counters-igbo-ancestry
A confused baba...Oduduwa isn't the father of Yorubas nor is Ile-Ife the cradle of the race....Oduduwa happened to be the progenitor of the Oduduwa dynasty just like Othoman Dan Fodio established a dynasty in Sokoto and Gwandu..So, you can't be more Yoruba than anybody else, given that the origin of the Yoruba race is yet to be unravelled.

Besides, it's widely acknowledged that you've, on numerous occasions, worked against the collective interest of the Yoruba race. And these actions were taken in cahoots with some non-Yoruba actors in order to undermine the interest of the Yoruba. This is why some concerned Yoruba men and women have chosen to see you as an outsider. In fact, Yorubas will never invite an Obj to any meeting or endeavour where the strategic interests of the people will be discussed. To us, Obj is more of an Igbo man or an Hausa man in our midst.

As a matter of fact, Obj is a mistake of a leader. He is one of the reasons why Nigeria has remained backward and stagnant. He is vainglorious, vindictive, and wicked. He had the best opportunity to lay a new, good foundation for Nigeria but frittered it away by pandering to the whims and caprices of his Hausa masters. Where he should have been firm, he was soft. Where he should have borrowed wisdom, he exhibited stupidity. He did nothing about the introduction of Sharia, but chose to seize Lagos allocations after the state created new local council development areas, even when the Supreme Court said that the FG had no right to seize allocations to the other federating units. It took President Yar'adua, an Hausa man, to release those funds. Also, Obj brazenly rigged the 2007 election for his party PDP not minding that he was creating a very bad precedent for the country.

I can go on and on. The fact remains that Obj is everything that a Yoruba man (omoluwabi) isn't...We need to check his DNA.
Re: Obasanjo: My 2 Parents Are From Abeokuta, I Bear Owu Tribal Marks by Mariangeles(f): 11:02am On Dec 29, 2020
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OsuAmaka:
So, if Awujale said "without proof" that they're not from Ife, has he denied their being Yoruba?..

A flat head is disproportional to common sense.

-Osu amaka
[/s]

Osukosu sugbuo gi! Onye ufu obi!

Anya mmiri agaghi ako na-anya ndi iro ndi Igbo!

Igbo ndi oma!
Re: Obasanjo: My 2 Parents Are From Abeokuta, I Bear Owu Tribal Marks by Chinemeremjosh0(m): 11:12am On Dec 29, 2020
who cares whence u joined hand to slaughter our innocent 3million children, parents u'll never know peace
Re: Obasanjo: My 2 Parents Are From Abeokuta, I Bear Owu Tribal Marks by simbrixton2: 11:16am On Dec 29, 2020
Vaughanlanrewaj:
Everything must contain the name "Bola Tinubu ".
O ga o.
For a fact, Baba Obasanjo is a Yoruba man. In fact, he does not need a national identity card with his owu tribal marks. That he could withold the statutory transfer to Lagos and remain unapologetic still strikes me as uncaring and reckless.
Till date, it is just for God and the brilliance of Asiwaju Tinubu that kept Lagos running then and people getting their salaries. Pa Obasanjo almost killed Lagos and this among his actions, raised the issue about his parentage. No true son of Yoruba will act the way Pa Obasanjo acted in office.

So I agree that prominent Yoruba leaders have valid reasons to doubt if he is Yoruba.
obasanjo is not a yoruba man he is just a pathological liar this is the same man that imprisoned Aare Gani Adams
Re: Obasanjo: My 2 Parents Are From Abeokuta, I Bear Owu Tribal Marks by simbrixton2: 11:16am On Dec 29, 2020
Chinemeremjosh0:
who cares whence u joined hand to slaughter our innocent 3million children, parents u'll never know peace
he is an anambra man
Re: Obasanjo: My 2 Parents Are From Abeokuta, I Bear Owu Tribal Marks by simbrixton2: 11:18am On Dec 29, 2020
sangresan:
A confused baba...Oduduwa isn't the father of Yorubas nor is Ile-Ife the cradle of the race....Oduduwa happened to be the progenitor of the Oduduwa dynasty just like Othoman Dan Fodio established a dynasty in Sokoto and Gwandu..So, you can't be more Yoruba than anybody else, given that the origin of the Yoruba race is yet to be unravelled.

Besides, it's widely acknowledged that you've, on numerous occasions, worked against the collective interest of the Yoruba race. And these actions were taken in cahoots with some non-Yoruba actors in order to undermine the interest of the Yoruba. This is why some concerned Yoruba men and women have chosen to see you as an outsider. In fact, Yorubas will never invite an Obj to any meeting or endeavour where the strategic interests of the people will be discussed. To us, Obj is more of an Igbo man or an Hausa man in our midst.

As a matter of fact, Obj is a mistake of a leader. He is one of the reasons why Nigeria has remained backward and stagnant. He is vainglorious, vindictive, and wicked. He had the best opportunity to lay a new, good foundation for Nigeria but frittered it away by pandering to the whims and caprices of his Hausa masters. Where he should have been firm, he was soft. Where he should have borrowed wisdom, he exhibited stupidity. He did nothing about the introduction of Sharia, but chose to seize Lagos allocations after the state created new local council development areas, even when the Supreme Court said that the FG had no right to seize allocations to the other federating units. It took President Yar'adua, an Hausa man, to release those funds. Also, Obj brazenly rigged the 2007 election for his party PDP not minding that he was creating a very bad precedent for the country.

I can go on and on. The fact remains that Obj is everything that a Yoruba man (omoluwabi) isn't...We need to check his DNA.
he is igbo bro no doubts about it tho we dont need to hate him but he is igbo
Re: Obasanjo: My 2 Parents Are From Abeokuta, I Bear Owu Tribal Marks by OsuAmaka:
Mariangeles Malariangeles:
[s][/s]

Osukosu sugbuo gi! Onye ufu obi!

Anya mmiri agaghi ako na-anya ndi iro ndi Igbo!

Igbo ndi oma!
Stop spitting your dirty Mbanu language in my mentions.

-Osu amaka
Re: Obasanjo: My 2 Parents Are From Abeokuta, I Bear Owu Tribal Marks by codemaniacs: 11:22am On Dec 29, 2020
kayjay69:
Obasanjo further said he rejected a request by two senior Yoruba retired soldiers to lead the Western Region out of Nigeria, which would be similar to what the late Chukwuemeka Odumegwu-Ojukwu tried to do for the South-East and failed.

My people, the Yorubas, have had a spineless, indecisive, naive and clearly selfish leadership from time immemorial, in the excerpts above General Obasanjo pretty much confirms this. However, Obasanjo is right about one thing, Yoruba leaders are not genuine in their support for restructuring. Infact, I can say Yoruba leaders have never been genuine in their support for restructuring. I am more than certain the day Yorubas stop looking up to their leaders and start asking the right questions is the day Nigeria begins to be a better place.

In my view, Awolowo had one opportunity to save us from this mess if he sided or atleast was neutral during the Civil war.
there is no way Awolowo would have "sided or atleast was neutral during the Civil war" because the zik and other igbo leaders were very anti Yoruba, when the igbos controlled the central govt they removed indigenes from federal positions in federal institutions in those states and replaced them with igbos and this led to the video released by a northern leader saying he would prefer to hire a foreigner and than hire an igbo person even Akintola released an audio on radio that igbos were taken positions that should go to the Yorubas in the Yoruba region...

if the igbos want to be pro-igbo they can be in their own region...

if the civil war was successful, it means
1. the attack on Ore by the Igbos led by a Yoruba person will have been successful which means millions of Yorubas would have been killed as Igbos attacks progress through states in the western region.

2. the whole Nigeria would have been under Igbo domination and it would have led to more civil wars because igbos will have to attack and conquer each region which means killing millions of non-igbo people and replacing their leaders with igbos...

3. it would have led to massive hatred for igbos by people from other regions...
e.t.c..
Re: Obasanjo: My 2 Parents Are From Abeokuta, I Bear Owu Tribal Marks by Chinemeremjosh0(m): 11:23am On Dec 29, 2020
simbrixton2:
he is an anambra man
I don't care whence he's againt us during the war!! he's of no use to us
Re: Obasanjo: My 2 Parents Are From Abeokuta, I Bear Owu Tribal Marks by sangresan(m): 11:27am On Dec 29, 2020
The Awujale didn't say that the Ijebus were not Yorubas....He only clarified the falsehood that his people emigrated from Ife......Unlike what the Ife-centric scholars would have us believe, each ethnic sub-group in Yorubaland has different stories of origin. There were waves of migration from outside and within Nigeria, that eventually resulted into what we came to know as Yorubaland made up of the Ijebus, the Ijesas, the Ondos etc.

Even in Igboland, the Onitsha people will tell you they came from Benin, while the Arochukwu people will tell you another story of origin. That doesn't mean they arent Igbos per se.

Coming back to Obj's issue, the reason why many Yorubas don't see him as one of them is because he has always behaved like a traitor to Yoruba cause. And we cant blame those people. That's how traitors are treated the world over.

I hope people remember how the FG under the same Obj undermined investigations into the assassination of Chief Bola Ige.
Re: Obasanjo: My 2 Parents Are From Abeokuta, I Bear Owu Tribal Marks by Olaideolayemi(m): 11:30am On Dec 29, 2020
meccuno:
Only a fool would say he/she is a proud Nigerian.
Even thus,you are not proud of Nigeria, but yet u are still a Nigeria... God help us..
Re: Obasanjo: My 2 Parents Are From Abeokuta, I Bear Owu Tribal Marks by Mariangeles(f): 11:35am On Dec 29, 2020
OsuAmaka:
Stop spitting your dirty Mbanu language in my mentions.

-Osu amaka
Ndi Igbo, ndi oma, ndi oma!
Ndi Chukwu goziri nke ukwu, ja ha mma!
Umu Igbo, umu oma!
Onu ahu ha na cha zaaaa ka anyanwu ututu! Ndi puru iche n'etiti ibe ha. kiss
Umu Igbo topuru ka osisi nkwu, gbaa-agba ka osisi oshi!

Ala Igbo, ala anyanwu ututu!
Re: Obasanjo: My 2 Parents Are From Abeokuta, I Bear Owu Tribal Marks by Nobody: 11:38am On Dec 29, 2020
Segun arinze obasanjo omo Igbo. You're an Igbo man and you know it. This is why the igbos shouldn't complain come 2023 cus you guys have had your turn. It's time for a Yoruba man to take the position
Re: Obasanjo: My 2 Parents Are From Abeokuta, I Bear Owu Tribal Marks by kayjay69(m): 11:43am On Dec 29, 2020
On the contrary, I believe Awolowo could have chosen to stay neutral. Neutral means Neutral not meeting with Ojukwu one day advising him not to go to war despite his people being slaughtered like flies and taking up a cabinet position within Gowon's government the next day.

Look sir, Igbo leaders were anti-yoruba, Yoruba leaders were anti-igbo and Hausa-Fulani leaders were anti-everyone else. We were all anti-each other, our leaders knew this pre-independence yet somehow they sought to force us to live together for their own selfish ends.

I am a Yoruba nationalist and I honestly believe if the Yorubas were allowed to be as a separate entity, we would be further along and much better off than we are within this geographical entity called Nigeria. As much as I understand Awo's rationale during the Civil war, his greatest failing as a leader (and I say this respectfully knowing no one is perfect and we all have our weaknesses) was his change of heart.

Pre-independence, Awo was on record as advocating for a separation of the Oduduwa Republic. To have states built around ethnic groups and so forth. He did not believe in the Federalist structure. That is the Awo I love, not this Awo that left Calabar prisons and started supporting One Nigeria. He knew there was never One Nigeria to begin with but his political ambitions drove him in that direction and the rest is history as we know it.

Hausa-Fulani have no business with the Yorubas, the Yorubas have no business with the Igbos and the Igbos have no business with the Ijaws. We were never ever fully allowed to determine who or what we wanted to be, at every turn we have had the quest for our independence truncated by evil men in high places and the result is this One Nigeria Frankenstein monster we now see. Until we go our separate ways, these problems will continue to persist. I thank Buhari for reminding us of what we really are.
codemaniacs:
there is no way Awolowo would have "sided or atleast was neutral during the Civil war" because the zik and other igbo leaders were very anti Yoruba, when the igbos controlled the central govt they removed indigenes from federal positions in federal institutions in those states and replaced them with igbos and this led to the video released by a northern leader saying he would prefer to hire a foreigner and than hire an igbo person even Akintola released an audio on radio that igbos were taken positions that should go to the Yorubas in the Yoruba region...

if the igbos want to be pro-igbo they can be in their own region...

if the civil war was successful, it means
1. the attack on Ore by the Igbos led by a Yoruba person will have been successful which means millions of Yorubas would have been killed as Igbos attacks progress through states in the western region.

2. the whole Nigeria would have been under Igbo domination and it would have led to more civil wars because igbos will have to attack and conquer each region which means killing millions of non-igbo people and replacing their leaders with igbos...

3. it would have led to massive hatred for igbos by people from other regions...
e.t.c..
Re: Obasanjo: My 2 Parents Are From Abeokuta, I Bear Owu Tribal Marks by idanone(m): 11:44am On Dec 29, 2020
If any of us here posses 1/10/of the destiny of this man we won't make noise on nairaland, awolowo has done more to yoruba land but obasanjo has done more to nigeria than any nigerian, infact he is an africa leader and the world respect that fact. Let us weigh our words, sentiment apart his good deeds is far more than his mistakes......i have a friend who compares tinubu to obasanjo...I smile when ever he comes up with that argument.... Have not seen a president has influential as baba in Nigeria.to be a leader in Nigeria is a endless roll.we here can't manage community. Pls enough of this hate speech.
quote author=NwaNimo1 post=97504193]

http://saharareporters.com/2020/12/28/my-two-parents-are-abeokuta-i-bear-owu-tribal-marks-obasanjo-counters-igbo-ancestry[/quote]
Re: Obasanjo: My 2 Parents Are From Abeokuta, I Bear Owu Tribal Marks by unshakablejihad: 11:46am On Dec 29, 2020
Alexis11:
Your unfortunate parents lied to you.

Now try and move out of your village. grin
i dnt need to move out to nowhere....u lots hv bloodties with orangutans...ask lai mohammed e go yarn u..
Re: Obasanjo: My 2 Parents Are From Abeokuta, I Bear Owu Tribal Marks by Mariangeles(f): 11:51am On Dec 29, 2020
[s]
OsuAmaka:
Grand Delusions... Dirty Mbanu!

Now, Get Out!

-Osu amaka
[/s]

O fugbuo la ya! kiss
Re: Obasanjo: My 2 Parents Are From Abeokuta, I Bear Owu Tribal Marks by codemaniacs: 11:59am On Dec 29, 2020
kayjay69:
On the contrary, I believe Awolowo could have chosen to stay neutral. Neutral means Neutral not meeting with Ojukwu one day advising him not to go to war despite his people being slaughtered like flies and taking up a cabinet position within Gowon's government the next day.

Look sir, Igbo leaders were anti-yoruba, Yoruba leaders were anti-igbo and Hausa-Fulani leaders were anti-everyone else. We were all anti-each other, our leaders knew this pre-independence yet somehow they sought to force us to live together for their own selfish ends.

I am a Yoruba nationalist and I honestly believe if the Yorubas were allowed to be as a separate entity, we would be further along and much better off than we are within this geographical entity called Nigeria. As much as I understand Awo's rationale, his greatest failing as a leader (and I say this respectfully knowing no one is perfect and we all have our weaknesses) was his change of heart.

Pre-independence, Awo was on record as advocating for a separation of the Oduduwa Republic. To have states built around ethnic groups and so forth. He did not believe in the Federalist structure. That is the Awo I love, not this Awo that left Calabar prisons and started supporting One Nigeria. He knew there was never One Nigeria to begin with but his political ambitions drove him in that direction and the rest is history as we know it.

Hausa-Fulani have no business with the Yorubas, the Yorubas have no business with the Igbos and the Igbos have no business with the Ijaws. We were never ever fully allowed to determine who or what we wanted to be, at every turn we have had the quest for our independence truncated by evil men in high places and the result is this One Nigeria Frankenstein monster we now see. Until we go our separate ways, these problems will continue to persist. I thank Buhari for reminding us of what we really are.
you are definitely not a yoruba person...

Awolowo could have never remained neutral, zik was contesting for premier of the western region and if zik was successful it means zik would have replaced all Yorubas in important positions in western region controlled institutions with igbos...

you say "Look sir, Igbo leaders were anti-yoruba, Yoruba leaders were anti-igbo and Hausa-Fulani leaders were anti-everyone else" but it was only the igbos who were challenging indigenes in other regions by contesting for government positions in other regions..

Awolowo never had a change of heart and never made any agreement with the igbos ( only igbos believe such fake news/history ).. awolowo was in prison.

it was the igbos that created the mid-west region in order to weaken the Yoruba region which the mid-west was part of...

stop claiming to be yoruba because no yoruba person will still say "On the contrary, I believe Awolowo could have chosen to stay neutral. " after been told that millions of Yorubas will have been killed and their jobs taken away from them..
Re: Obasanjo: My 2 Parents Are From Abeokuta, I Bear Owu Tribal Marks by donb06: 12:04pm On Dec 29, 2020
Sammy07:
True I understand bro ♥️
Even OBJ nothing built by a state is named after him.
I don't know what they drink when they get there ooo... Naija must develop by fire by force.. There generation will soon pass.
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