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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by HewlettPackard: 9:20pm On Jan 03, 2021
You can't give what you don't have!

Lampard does not have what it takes to deliver the EPL or UCL to us, not today, not in 7years time. He needs to back and learn basics of his trade, and we can't afford him the luxury of doing that with this club.

I recommend the board reaches an agreement with him to leave on mutual understanding at season's end, irrespective of where he finishes on the table.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by TrebleChamp(m): 9:20pm On Jan 03, 2021
airmark:


Who should take over? grin
Samson Siasia would do a better Job than Lampard in ma opinion....

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Expert17: 9:22pm On Jan 03, 2021
Ibime told us that Lampard is better than Artera grin grin

After spending 200M, Arsenal just 3 Points behind cheesy cheesy

Arteta >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.Lampard

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by wman(m): 9:22pm On Jan 03, 2021
runtime:
Pulishit 1 goals 0 assists all season.
but let just act like its normal and drag only werner and havertz undecided.

How many full 90 minutes games has he played compared to Werner and Havertz?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by User09: 9:23pm On Jan 03, 2021
User09:


This man is in love with Lampard. U've blamed the board, Havertz and everyone else but the coach and his incongruent tactics. The guy thinks Ziyech coming back solves the problem, He's so in for a rude awakening

Newsflash - Lampard days are numbered in that team with such results. Spin it however you like.


I said it earlier.

The problem is bigger than Ziyech
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by rooftops: 9:26pm On Jan 03, 2021
HewlettPackard:
You can't give what you don't have!

Lampard does not have what it takes to deliver the EPL or UCL to us, not today, not in 7years time. He needs to back and learn basics of his trade, and we can't afford him the luxury of doing that with this club.

I recommend the board reaches an agreement with him to leave on mutual understanding at season's end, irrespective of where he finishes on the table.
.. season end? Let the new coach come in now know his players and salvage the season then by next season we can now start thinking of competing
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibeme: 9:27pm On Jan 03, 2021
Thank God spambot banned me since yesterday.

We are suffering a crisis of confidence. I hope Frank can get it together. He should have parked bus today instead of trying to press them given the lack of confidence in the team. That's what you do when your back is against the wall but he naively left us open.

I thought Silva was at fault for the first two goals and Kante for the third.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamJ(m): 9:33pm On Jan 03, 2021
Keeping Lampard on isn't doing him any favors

Prospective teams are watching and loosing interest in him fast
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 9:36pm On Jan 03, 2021
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You are misinterpreting data and forming intelligentsia. Ancellotti you cite won the league in '09/10 - 5/6 seasons into Roman's era and at the peak of the spendings. At that point, Roman had poured in a steady .5billion pounds into all areas of CFC.

Contrast that to Lampard taking over Chelsea at a point of virtually the lowest investment periods, and notably, after a full season of no spending at all, and the simultaneous sale of the club's best player. Relative leniency is not even comparable. But I don't expect a mental neophyte like yourself to understand your own argument. Instead, you are spending your time praying for us to lose.

Going by your stupid stat chart, Avram Grant must be the best Manager Chelsea ever had abi?

Apa!

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 9:38pm On Jan 03, 2021
HewlettPackard:
You can't give what you don't have!

Lampard does not have what it takes to deliver the EPL or UCL to us, not today, not in 7years time. He needs to back and learn basics of his trade, and we can't afford him the luxury of doing that with this club.

I recommend the board reaches an agreement with him to leave on mutual understanding at season's end, irrespective of where he finishes on the table.

I watched Liverpool fans say the same thing about Klopp. Now you all want us to be like Liverpool and want a manager like Klopp.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 9:40pm On Jan 03, 2021
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Who should take over? grin


I just reason Rafa benitez now.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by DExponential(m): 9:40pm On Jan 03, 2021
The earlier we start looking at the bigger picture, the better for us
Barkley was one of our attacking 8's last season. Barkley is on loan at Aston Villa this season.

4231 didn't work out with Kante/Kovacic/Jorginho. Why not try it again now that Gilmour is back?

Kante/Mount have been playing nonstop for days now.
Rotation? Gilmour/Havertz?

Werner has been playing as a winger. Part due to injuries to the other wingers. When they were fit? Odoi on the bench, Pulisic shifted to the RW?

Kante has been poor for a while. Constant back passes and too much fouls conceded. Bench or Pivot?

Tomori and Odoi unfairly treated? Tomori doesn't even make the bench at all.

Late Subs?

Body Language during matches

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by eph12(m): 9:41pm On Jan 03, 2021
HewlettPackard:
You can't give what you don't have!

Lampard does not have what it takes to deliver the EPL or UCL to us, not today, not in 7years time. He needs to back and learn basics of his trade, and we can't afford him the luxury of doing that with this club.

I recommend the board reaches an agreement with him to leave on mutual understanding at season's end, irrespective of where he finishes on the table.
Your recommendation is noted. I'll relay it to the pantless one

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibeme: 9:41pm On Jan 03, 2021
nitrogen:


The usual ones like Salesforce, ServiceNow, Zendesk, the FAANG stocks. There are also online wholesalers/retailers/grocery stocks, since most countries have entered/will enter another lockdown, those stocks will outperform. But don't forget that you need to check if they've met or exceeded analysts' expectations in the last few months, you can then use it to forecast q4 earnings performance.

We will definitely see more momentum investing in the market with focus on tech stocks. I remember that in March when Zoom was trading at $116. I forecasted the stock to hit $250 to $300 over the next 12 months. Of course, I factored covid-19 into the analysis. Zoom is currently trading at c. $350. The intrinsic value should be maximum of $300, the extra $50 is on the back of momentum, not fundamentals.

Starting from 4th Jan won't be bad, but we don't know if a slight dip will be seen due to festivities and school fees paroles. Interestingly, January is considered one of the best months for the markets. We've seen that in recent years except the year 2016.

Have you heard of êtoro? There you can view the profile and portfolio of successful investors and copy their positions exactly with the click of a button depending on your attitude to risk. In essence, they become your fund managers. So for example, if you want steady but unspectacular returns, you just copy the portfolio of someone who invests in blue chips. If you fancy higher risk, you can copy the investments of someone who shorts often or is invested in creeypto for example. As you highlighted Tech and Health tech for Q1 growth, for a layman like me, I would just go and invest into the fund of someone like SimoneRizzetto (as below) who invests in those companies and has a stellar record of returns with those portfolios and the educational background in it as I don't have the time nor expertise to study those stocks to a decent level.

If you can get on etoro in Nigeria, your results can easily get people invested in your funds so long as you have the track record and fit their risk criteria. For example, I copy traders there from Malaysia, China etc that can bring on board their expertise of far-Eastern markets and my portfolio with them will be moving at night while the European and US fund managers portfolios are sleeping.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by HewlettPackard: 9:42pm On Jan 03, 2021
rooftops:
.. season end? Let the new coach come in now know his players and salvage the season then by next season we can now start thinking of competing

this team can't compete for anything except Carling Cup and FA cup.

We need a striker, Werner buy was wasteful I don't know what plan Lampard had

We need a quality CM.

Basically this club needs to splash another 100-150 million pounds to build a major title challenging squad under a great manager.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 9:43pm On Jan 03, 2021
raumdeuter:
If not that Chelsea did not spend money in the transfer market

Any football fan that use that line to absorb any team or manager is clueless.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bigkesh(m): 9:44pm On Jan 03, 2021
Lana1:
Omo. Even bigkesh don come out of retirement.

Lampard what have you done?? grin

You still dey.
My boss!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by biomustry: 9:46pm On Jan 03, 2021
With fully fit Pulisic Ziyech, I will be watching with a relaxed mind

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 9:46pm On Jan 03, 2021
Ibeme:
Thank God spambot banned me since yesterday.

We are suffering a crisis of confidence. I hope Frank can get it together. He should have parked bus today instead of trying to press them given the lack of confidence in the team. That's what you do when your back is against the wall but he naively left us open.

I thought Silva was at fault for the first two goals and Kante for the third.


Spambot ban me sef. I was replying to your trading posts.

I was expecting us to sit back and work on the counter with the front 3 to get at least get confidence back.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 9:48pm On Jan 03, 2021
nateevs:


How many Chelsea matches have you seen to be using the word 'ever'?

This is the problem with newbies. You all think Chelsea started in 2003 and the only thing you have seen is Chelsea firing managers up and down. This is why you are clamouring for yet another firing. You guys have no perspective or understanding of patience and team building.


Most of you have set your expectation too high for this season and this is why you cannot stomach a run of losses. Tens of you were plotting your best Chelsea 11, salivating at the prospects of walking all over teams, instead of assuming yet another year of team building.

Firing a manager guarantees you nothing. One was fired for Lampard to take over and it appears the reason for firing the last has not been achieved. So what is the point is firing another? Just so we can be right here in another two years?

But when Andres villa boas was fired we ended up winning the prestigious ucl and fa Cup abi no be so ?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 9:48pm On Jan 03, 2021
Ibeme:


Have you heard of êtoro? There you can view the profile and portfolio of successful investors and copy their positions exactly with the click of a button depending on your attitude to risk. In essence, they become your fund managers. So for example, if you want steady but unspectacular returns, you just copy the portfolio of someone who invests in blue chips. If you fancy higher risk, you can copy the investments of someone who shorts often or is invested in creeypto for example. As you highlighted Tech and Health tech for Q1 growth, for a layman like me, I would just go and invest into the fund of someone like SimoneRizzetto (as below) who invests in those companies and has a stellar record of returns with those portfolios and the educational background in it as I don't have the time nor expertise to study those stocks to a decent level.

If you can get on etoro in Nigeria, your results can easily get people invested in your funds so long as you have the track record and fit their risk criteria. For example, I copy traders there from Malaysia, China etc that can bring on board their expertise of far-Eastern markets and my portfolio with them will be moving at night while the European and US fund managers portfolios are sleeping.

I was literally replying to you two days saying that I trade using Etoro and spambot catch me and deleted trade. Can repeat what I typed. I don't know what the trigger was.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by biomustry: 9:49pm On Jan 03, 2021
raumdeuter:
That time with Sarri and Kepa shebi na 6-0

This looks like an improvement
Definitely, na why dey relaxed now
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 9:50pm On Jan 03, 2021
popizaino:


But when Andres villa boas was fired we ended up winning the prestigious ucl and fa Cup abi no be so ?

You obviously don't understand the meaning of the word "guarantee". Plus if you think we will the UCL as we did in that year ever again, you are in on a long thing.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by HewlettPackard: 9:50pm On Jan 03, 2021
nateevs:


I watched Liverpool fans say the same thing about Klopp. Now you all want us to be like Liverpool and want a manager like Klopp.

What you fail to realize is that Kloop was a great manager before coming to England with established football ideology, a league winner, a UCL finalist.

What was Lampard before coming to Chelsea? 2yrs at Chelsea what is he?

the recent losses are not my argument points, but Lampard tactics and approach. It is evident he doesn't have it W/D/L.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by rooftops: 9:51pm On Jan 03, 2021
HewlettPackard:


this team can't compete for anything except Carling Cup and FA cup.

We need a striker, Werner buy was wasteful I don't know what plan Lampard had

We need a quality CM.

Basically this club needs to splash another 100-150 million pounds to build a major title challenging squad under a great manager.
...ah 100 million pounds..with the amount spent earlier not sure we will spend such amount
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sokeril: 9:52pm On Jan 03, 2021
HewlettPackard:
You can't give what you don't have!

Lampard does not have what it takes to deliver the EPL or UCL to us, not today, not in 7years time. He needs to back and learn basics of his trade, and we can't afford him the luxury of doing that with this club.

I recommend the board reaches an agreement with him to leave on mutual understanding at season's end, irrespective of where he finishes on the table.
really?
are you sure?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by melodyogonna(m): 10:00pm On Jan 03, 2021
has Chelsea won a top 10 team yet?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 10:02pm On Jan 03, 2021
DExponential:
People aren't seeing the main issue here. It's not about Lampard, it's the players. From the slow and lethargic play to the I don't care attitude. It looks like there's a revolt and once it starts, it's just a matter of when.


Abeggiiiii

This is 2021, your excuse is outdated.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibeme: 10:04pm On Jan 03, 2021
nateevs:


I was literally replying to you two days saying that I trade using Etoro and spambot catch me and deleted trade. Can repeat what I typed. I don't know what the trigger was.

Spambot just dey ban me upandan these days for mentioning any creeeeyptø, yet Oga Seun will be advertising creeeeyptø services on front page.

Êtoro is a blessing in disguise. You don't have to crack your brain at all, just copy the portfolio of other successful trãders with more expertise. All my holding there are just copies, although I put a little free cash aside for potential shōrting of creeeeyptø in Q1 while holding creeeeyptø in Cooøøinbase. The only thing to be aware of for this year is to diversify a bit and copy long-short guys who trade both ways as we no know how market go be this year as all stocks are overpriced so one needs to be in a portfolio that also goes short.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 10:12pm On Jan 03, 2021
Ibeme:


Spambot just dey ban me upandan these days for mentioning any creeeeyptø, yet Oga Seun will be advertising creeeeyptø services on front page.

Êtoro is a blessing in disguise. You don't have to crack your brain at all, just copy the portfolio of other successful trãders with more expertise. All my holding there are just copies, although I put a little free cash aside for potential shōrting of creeeeyptø in Q1 while holding creeeeyptø in Cooøøinbase. The only thing to be aware of for this year is to diversify a bit and copy long-short guys who trade both ways as we no know how market go be this year as all stocks are overpriced so one needs to be in a portfolio that also goes short.

Indeed. I was mentioning that on Etoro, I do part manual trade - Coorrenccies, Cormmodiittiiies and Indeeces (spambot proofing, if you know what I mean) and part copy-trade of portfolios. I utilize the social element a lot, which allows me to get on top of financial news and research.

That's my daily SM. Etoro is a genius idea.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibeme: 10:15pm On Jan 03, 2021
Lampard deserves my patience after 17 games unbeaten and over 10 stellar years of service, and I will give him it. We knew it was going to be a rocky period after the Everton and Wolves defeats looking at the fixtures. I have never thought this squad was balanced, especially in the Striker and DM positions, no depth at fullback and what we are seeing is a conflagration of all those personnel issues, injuries, and yes, some tactical naivety from Lampard. And yet, every Chelsea fan has a different version of their starting 11 and claim Lampard doesn't know what he's doing when their favourites aren't picked. Someone said he's a fool for not starting Giroud or Tammy, another said he should be playing Werner and is not getting the best out of him. One criticised for playing Mount, another said Havertz is rubbish. Another said Kovacic is a fraud and Barkley should be playing, ignoring the fact that was whom Havertz was brought to replace. Another said Ziyech is too soft and can't track back, and CHO should have started, meanwhile half the fans hate CHO. The only section of the team we all agree is the goalkeeper and defence.

All this means is we are struggling for players that solve our problems regardless of blowing £130m on the German Daniel James and new Ozil.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BikeMan: 10:17pm On Jan 03, 2021
Ibeme:
Thank God spambot banned me since yesterday.

We are suffering a crisis of confidence. I hope Frank can get it together. He should have parked bus today instead of trying to press them given the lack of confidence in the team. That's what you do when your back is against the wall but he naively left us open.

I thought Silva was at fault for the first two goals and Kante for the third.

Team mediocrity strikes again.

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