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Terrorists to help terrorists end terrorism.

privaldo:
And you've just answered the question. BH is the only terrorist group ravaging Nigeria, so if they settle their score with BH then we are free from terrorism, or is there any other terrorist group I don't know of that exists in Nigeria?

They don't have the intention of stopping Boko Haram all they want is some form of deal with the fg pretending to end terrorism so they can use the new found cooperation to normalise fg attitude to shites.

Iran is the sponsor of Hezbollah in Lebanon which is a designated Terrorist organisation by the usa

Mikehot:
They don't have the intention of stopping Boko Haram all they want is some form of deal with the fg pretending to end terrorism so they can use the new found cooperation to normalise fg attitude to shites.

Iran is the sponsor of Hezbollah in Lebanon which is a designated Terrorist organisation by the usa

What is the function of Hezbollah in Lebanon? Please give me your personal opinions and not that of the American media.

Iran will annihilate BH because they're a Sunni backed group, and sure they will use it to negotiate a soft landing for the Shiites (At last they're lesser headache than the Sunnis).

Efewestern:
Nice analysis, but Iran isn't the perfect partner we need ATM, we have a fragile economy, any little sanction from the west might put us in a very bad state, an example is Lebanon. Allowing Iran into our space will send a wrong signal.

And besides, they are not interested in what n Africa, their major goal is to dominate the Middle East.

We can learn a two from them... admire their scientific growth despite the many challenges and also how they kept nepotism far away from important sectors e.g military/defense.

@bolded, China might not be the perfect partner also, topic for another day. I wish we look more inwardly whilst keeping an open relationship with everyone.

Who do you suggest we make our strategic partners?

I would have put Turkey in place of Iran but I don't think we need to worry about the Turks because they will naturally come to us due to their rivalry with France, and our long-standing rivalry with France (In realpolitik an enemy of my enemy is my friend).
Iran made my list because we have almost the same situation but the Iranians have learned how to develop and adapt in such a situation, and they possess a large military.

I put India there because they're our largest trading partners and I foresee a future where we also become partners militarily and align our other interests.

I put China on the list because we are obviously in an "unhealthy romance" with them economically, and I would like to see it go beyond just that, I hope it transcends to other things. The Chinese are going to conquer the world sooner or later, and it will be nice if we would be in their good books.

I feel Brazil, Argentina, and South Africa are other countries that would make good partners if Nigeria is to be a force to reckon with on the international scene.

privaldo:
What is the function of Hezbollah in Lebanon? Please give me your personal opinions and not that of the American media.

Iran will annihilate BH because they're a Sunni backed group, and sure they will use it to negotiate a soft landing for the Shiites (At last they're lesser headache than the Sunnis).

Hezbollah is another Terrorist organisation backed by shite Iranian regime to control the gulf and launch its proxy attacks to Israel and other threats to the Iranian regime

hisgrace090:
They will not accept it at all.

Sadly u are nobody your words have zero value,so go Bleep yourself.Help is welcome from who ever offer.

Mikehot:
Hezbollah is another Terrorist organization backed by shite Iranian regime to control the gulf and launch its proxy attacks to Israel and other threats to the Iranian regime

Hezbollah is first a political party before anything else. Hezbollah wasn't formed to counter Israel and other Iranian threats.
The reason for forming Hezbollah was to protect the Shitte minority from a largely Sunni dominated Middle East.

America also sponsors terrorist groups by arming them, such as the case of rebels armed by America to overthrow Assad in Syria, and the Kurds (though not terrorist groups in real sense) were also armed by the U.S and its allies.

Mikehot:
They don't have the intention of stopping Boko Haram all they want is some form of deal with the fg pretending to end terrorism so they can use the new found cooperation to normalise fg attitude to shites.

Iran is the sponsor of Hezbollah in Lebanon which is a designated Terrorist organisation by the usa

Hezbollah mission is to defend Lebanese boarder from land grabbing Israel, how are they terrorist and the aggressor not.

Ibrahimmrfish:
Hezbollah mission is to defend Lebanese boarder from land grabbing Israel, how are they terrorists and the aggressor not.

Kudos, you understand what Hezbollah is all about.

privaldo:
I will give the Pros and Cons of an agreement such as this.

Pros:

If Iran gets into this fight they wouldn't spare BH, and every other terrorist group because they are linked to the Sunnis. Expect the fight to have a religious look but I think the Iranians will deliver.

Cons

Nigeria will fall out of favor with the West, and this will mean less aid for Nigeria.

If Nigeria wants along term partner, they should forget the West and look in the direction of Iran, India, and China. If Nigeria and the aforementioned countries can be on par or even close to each other in terms of development and military might, then we would be feared and respected by the world. This is a really good move from Tehran.

I agree with this.

What 'aid' does the west even provide Nigeria? Probably some token amount.

privaldo:
Who do you suggest we make our strategic partners?

I would have put Turkey in place of Iran but I don't think we need to worry about the Turks because they will naturally come to us due to their rivalry with France, and our long-standing rivalry with France (In realpolitik an enemy of my enemy is my friend).
Iran made my list because we have almost the same situation but the Iranians have learned how to develop and adapt in such a situation, and they possess a large military.

I put India there because they're our largest trading partners and I foresee a future where we also become partners militarily and align our other interests.

I put China on the list because we are obviously in an "unhealthy romance" with them economically, and I would like to see it go beyond just that, I hope it transcends to other things. The Chinese are going to conquer the world sooner or later, and it will be nice if we would be in their good books.

I feel Brazil, Argentina, and South Africa are other countries that would make good partners if Nigeria is to be a force to reckon with on the international scene.

You know your geopolitcs, unlike 99% of NL.

#Fact: Iran helped Syria and Iraq defeat the US-created ISIS terrorism and barbarism.

But the Nigerian fight against BokoHaram insurgency is complicated as those Bloodthirsty Sunni extremists in power in Nigeria are closely allied to BokoHaram terrorists.

Then how can Iran help BokoHaram terrorists end BokoHaram insurgency?

#ElbinawiTweets

Rossintii:
You know your geopolitcs, unlike 99% of NL.

Thank you.

Rossintii:
I agree with this.

What 'aid' does the west even provide Nigeria? Probably some token amount.

It still counts though but I think we can do without it, and live without them.

privaldo:
I would have put Turkey in place of Iran but I don't think we need to worry about the Turks because they will naturally come to us due to their rivalry with France, and our long-standing rivalry with France (In realpolitik an enemy of my enemy is my friend).

Turkey is no match for France. It's just noisy empty vessel. Some countries love to appoint themselves as rivals of countries they can never compete with and troll them.
Be it Turkey towards France, Pakistan towards India, Philippines towards China, Ukraine towards Russia and North Korea towards US. They don't have any influence on their stronger counterparts except news headlines. Coz Turkey, Pak, Ukraine or DPRK stand nowhere against their larger enemies in any aspect.

privaldo:
Iran made my list because we have almost the same situation but the Iranians have learned how to develop and adapt in such a situation, and they possess a large military.

Iran has a large military only by standards of Islamic world where other most countries are failed states, not really a large military per global aspects.

Their milliary products are just lower quality license produced copies of Russian and Chinese equipments. If you ever have a dig, see specifications of their weapons, missiles, space launch vehicles and general scientific equipment. They are just a small prototype version of Russia.

privaldo:
I put India there because they're our largest trading partners and I foresee a future where we also become partners militarily and align our other interests.

I put China on the list because we are obviously in an "unhealthy romance" with them economically, and I would like to see it go beyond just that, I hope it transcends to other things. The Chinese are going to conquer the world sooner or later, and it will be nice if we would be in their good books.

You are going to be a place of quest for influence for China, India and ASEAN and may be even USA. You are Africa's most populous country, will match China and India in population by century end and will be a great market for these countries. Over it, you may possess a significantly large military worth of notability in operations around Africa.

You are even more important for our India as you are an alternative source of oil instead of Islamic middle-east countries which tend to support Pakistan and oogle us in Kashmir issue. So, India may even do more to snatch you from China until you go for "Islamic brotherhood" with Pakistan.

privaldo:
I feel Brazil, Argentina, and South Africa are other countries that would make good partners if Nigeria is to be a force to reckon with on the international scene.

They will be your competitors and equal collaborators like Japan, UK and France are towards each other today.

Arewa knows what they want and they are planning of getting it....the rest of the region are praying and calling on God to help them....

No matter what they are planning it will never work in Igbo land....we will defend our land

Don't buy that. IRAN is SHIITS TERRORISTS.

Ibrahimmrfish:
Sadly u are nobody your words have zero value,so go Bleep yourself.Help is welcome from who ever offer.

Not my word but the word of those that sees the freedom of terrorist as a must for now.

Nigeria needs the help of all the countries in the world.

Nigeria is in big mess presently.

Goel:
Turkey is no match for France. It's just a noisy empty vessel. Some countries love to appoint themselves as rivals of countries they can never compete with and troll them.
Be it Turkey towards France, Pakistan towards India, Philippines towards China, Ukraine towards Russia, and North Korea towards the US. They don't have any influence on their stronger counterparts except news headlines. Coz Turkey, Pak, Ukraine, or DPRK stand nowhere against their larger enemies in any aspect.

I can agree with you that most of these countries are no match for the people they pick on but Turkey can stand toe-to-toe with France. They both have one of the world's most powerful military, and economy.

Turkey will have a huge influence on French colonies in Africa, which are mostly Muslim majority and that's where the Turks will have an upper hand. I don't foresee a military showdown between the two, maybe we would see some sort of cold war and proxy war on foreign soil.

Pakistan may be able to hold their own against India militarily from what I have seen of recent.

Iran has a large military only by standards of the Islamic world where other most countries are failed states, not a large military per global aspects.

Their milliary products are just lower quality license-produced copies of Russian and Chinese equipments. If you ever have a dig, see specifications of their weapons, missiles, space launch vehicles, and general scientific equipment. They are just a small prototype version of Russia.

While Iran's military assets may be substandard, they seem like a decent ally in the Gulf region due to them not being compromised by the West. We already have military pacts with Egypt and Saudi Arabia, but these two countries hardly have a mind of their own they bend to whatever direction the West dictates.

You are going to be a place of quest for influence for China, India and ASEAN and maybe even USA. You are Africa's most populous country, will match China and India in population by century end, and will be a great market for these countries. Over it, you may possess a significantly large military worth of notability in operations around Africa.

India is already Nigeria's largest trading partner, and China also wants a piece of that pie from all indications. America may not be a serious partner for Nigeria even in the nearest future, Nigeria would most likely turn to Asia to find new friends.

Nigeria's military would need to grow larger in terms of manpower, and arsenal to project the kind of power that would make it feared on the African continent. If they can ward off Western Armies successfully off the continent, and also intervene swiftly in times of trouble then we would return to the position of the "Big Brother of Africa" sooner than expected.

You are even more important for our India as you are an alternative source of oil instead of Islamic middle-east countries which tend to support Pakistan and ogle us in the Kashmir issue. So, India may even do more to snatch you from China until you go for "Islamic brotherhood" with Pakistan.

Yes, India will be our long-term friends economically I do hope it transcends to other partnerships such as a military pact. The same reason Nigeria won't side Palestine is also the same reason we won't take a side in the Pakistan/Kashmir affair. Once Nigeria supports a region or self-determined state, it will propel several secessionists movements across
country.

They will be your competitors and equal collaborators like Japan, UK and France are towards each other today.

We would be at loggerhead most of the time but I would like to be more of partners instead of rivals. The competition may not be as fierce as that of France, and Britain though.

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Ibrahimmrfish:
It clear that u are the one that has no idea.

Please read my statement again, and assimilate properly. I was praising you and you want to go ballistic.

privaldo:
Please read my statement again, and assimilate properly. I was praising you and you want to go ballistic.

Sorry my bad,i didn't take my time read.I apologize for my harsh word.

Ibrahimmrfish:
Sorry my bad,i didn't take my time read.I apologize for my harsh word.

It's all good my man ✌.

privaldo:
I can agree with you that most of these countries are no match for the people they pick on but Turkey can stand toe-to-toe with France. They both have one of the world's most powerful military, and economy.

Turkey will have a huge influence on French colonies in Africa, which are mostly Muslim majority and that's where the Turks will have an upper hand. I don't foresee a military showdown between the two, maybe we would see some sort of cold war and proxy war on foreign soil.

Turkey has just 20% of French economy and even far weaker militarily, technology and industrial base. Nor it does have a fractional clout of French investments around world. French international policies too don't care much about Turkey.

I have barely seen a strategic journal even mentioning Turkey in geopolitics. Turkey is just a self appointed "player" againsy any European country.
It's in fact the sick man of Europe with lowest per capita income there, competing with emerging economies like China and Iran and being caught up by India in terms of living standards and strategically more equal to Indonesia and Mexico than France. In fact, to some extent, Turkey is more of a match to Nigeria and South Africa.

And Indonesia and Mexico too have a faster growing geopolitical relevance than Turkey.

privaldo:
Pakistan may be able to hold their own against India militarily from what I have seen of recent.

India's reluctance to capture Pakistani land is a product of international pressure and not Pakistan's own capacity. Soviet threats in 1965 and American & British threats in 1971. India's increasing strength will lower their diplomatic guards also.

Pakistan used a squadron of 20 against 6 Indian planes and started writing letters to UNSC to avoid an Indian invasion, left captured pilot next day to avoid war.

It rather depends upon their relevance in India as gap between India and Pakistan has only been growing even faster for past 40 years. Pakistan is losing relevance in Indian politics with Indian population now finding it impossible, the reintegration of radicalised Pakistani Islamic population in India. And positive jibes over India being progressive (and negative jibes about India being like world's next Nazi Germany) are emerging in Pakistan.

So, if India finds Pak still useful, a war is coming or Pakistan will become like next use and throw neighbor like Sri Lanka for India.

privaldo:
While Iran's military assets may be substandard, they seem like a decent ally in the Gulf region due to them not being compromised by the West. We already have military pacts with Egypt and Saudi Arabia, but these two countries hardly have a mind of their own they bend to whatever direction the West dictates.

Arab states lately have developed strong relations with India too while Iran ditched these from India for sake of Islamism.

Indeed an economically powerful Nigeria will find their favour more likely than a radical state like Iran who will demand your support for Palestine.

privaldo:
India is already Nigeria's largest trading partner, and China also wants a piece of that pie from all indications. America may not be a serious partner for Nigeria even in the nearest future, Nigeria would most likely turn to Asia to find new friends.

You will have a large population and will be a great place for cheap labor as well as market. This is sufficient reason that all big countries will race to Nigeria. Story ends

privaldo:
Nigeria's military would need to grow larger in terms of manpower, and arsenal to project the kind of power that would make it feared on the African continent. If they can ward off Western Armies successfully off the continent, and also intervene swiftly in times of trouble then we would return to the position of the "Big Brother of Africa" sooner than expected.

Nigeria doesn't have so many enemies. It will be less military and more about economic hold like Brazil.

privaldo:
We would be at loggerhead most of the time but I would like to be more of partners instead of rivals. The competition may not be as fierce as that of France, and Britain though.

Loggerhead doesn't matter because once you an economy equal to them, you could buy technology and weapons from other countries if you don't have.

privaldo:
I will give the Pros and Cons of an agreement such as this.

Pros:

If Iran gets into this fight they wouldn't spare BH, and every other terrorist group because they are linked to the Sunnis. Expect the fight to have a religious look but I think the Iranians will deliver.

Cons

Nigeria will fall out of favor with the West, and this will mean less aid for Nigeria.

If Nigeria wants along term partner, they should forget the West and look in the direction of Iran, India, and China. If Nigeria and the aforementioned countries can be on par or even close to each other in terms of development and military might, then we would be feared and respected by the world. This is a really good move from Tehran.

The only Western country that Nigeria still cooperate well is Britain

Mikehot:
I laugh if you think Iran would help stop jihad.

They don't have a problem with Boko Haram they just looking for a cheap avenue to fortify their shities brethen

Iran is looking for allies against the US, they can actually help, but sure it will be ruthless, Iran working with Nigeria will just increase our popularity among Islamic nations and I don't like that

Kimjongun:
The only Western country that Nigeria still cooperate well is Britain

Nigeria will cooperate with any Western country that offers it hands of friendship. Nigerian leaders treat Western nations as gods.

Goel:
Turkey has just 20% of French economy and even far weaker militarily, technology and industrial base. Nor it does have a fractional clout of French investments around world. French international policies too don't care much about Turkey.

I have barely seen a strategic journal even mentioning Turkey in geopolitics. Turkey is just a self appointed "player" againsy any European country.
It's in fact the sick man of Europe with lowest per capita income there, competing with emerging economies like China and Iran and being caught up by India in terms of living standards and strategically more equal to Indonesia and Mexico than France. In fact, to some extent, Turkey is more of a match to Nigeria and South Africa.

And Indonesia and Mexico too have a faster growing geopolitical relevance than Turkey.

India's reluctance to capture Pakistani land is a product of international pressure and not Pakistan's own capacity. Soviet threats in 1965 and American & British threats in 1971. India's increasing strength will lower their diplomatic guards also.

Pakistan used a squadron of 20 against 6 Indian planes and started writing letters to UNSC to avoid an Indian invasion, left captured pilot next day to avoid war.

It rather depends upon their relevance in India as gap between India and Pakistan has only been growing even faster for past 40 years. Pakistan is losing relevance in Indian politics with Indian population now finding it impossible, the reintegration of radicalised Pakistani Islamic population in India. And positive jibes over India being progressive (and negative jibes about India being like world's next Nazi Germany) are emerging in Pakistan.

So, if India finds Pak still useful, a war is coming or Pakistan will become like next use and throw neighbor like Sri Lanka for India.


Arab states lately have developed strong relations with India too while Iran ditched these from India for sake of Islamism.

Indeed an economically powerful Nigeria will find their favour more likely than a radical state like Iran who will demand your support for Palestine.


You will have a large population and will be a great place for cheap labor as well as market. This is sufficient reason that all big countries will race to Nigeria. Story ends

Nigeria doesn't have so many enemies. It will be less military and more about economic hold like Brazil.

Loggerhead doesn't matter because once you an economy equal to them, you could buy technology and weapons from other countries if you don't have.

I agree with most of what you've said, they are really great arguments. Do you see a war breaking out in the Horn of Africa between Ethopia and Sudan? Also, in the event of a war, do you see India projecting power or taking sides?

Iran the number one sponsor of Terrorism in the world ? Buhari has suffered

privaldo:
I agree with most of what you've said, they are really great arguments. Do you see a war breaking out in the Horn of Africa between Ethopia and Sudan? Also, in the event of a war, do you see India projecting power or taking sides?

A war in horn of Africa is imminent. But India or any other country taking sides here is far fetched for at least 30-40 years till this region gains some economic value.

Goel:
A war in horn of Africa is imminent. But India or any other country taking sides here is far fetched for at least 30-40 years till this region gains some economic value.

Yes, there will surely be a war maybe this year or next but it's imminent like you pointed out.

I really don't know about India taking sides but I already see Turkey, UAE, Egypt, and France protecting power already.
Turkey is already courting Somali and helping them train their military, and Egypt on the other hand backed by France and the UAE wants to establish a military base in Somaliland.
The move by Egypt to establish a military base has already been criticised by Ethopia who is still at logger head over the dam issue, and the same Egypt is fueling the ongoing military standoff between Sudan, and Ehiopia while criticizing Sudan on the other hand for making the peace talks fail.

If India will want to be a strategic player in Africa in the nearest future, I believe this issue should be of importance to them because the Horn of Africa is home to some of the most important countries in Africa like Kenya, Ethiopia, Rwanda, Somalia, Tanzania, and Uganda.
I say so because it is a strategic point into Africa considering the economic importance of the ports in Djibouti, and Somaliland.