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| Do These Verses Postulate Eternal Security? (JWs are not welcome) by Preciousgirl(op): 9:29pm On Jan 06, 2021*. Modified: 9:48pm On Jan 06, 2021 |
John 10:25-30 [25]Jesus answered them, “I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in My Father’s name, they bear witness of Me. [26]But you do not believe, because you are not of My sheep, as I said to you. [27]My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. [28]And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. [29]My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand. [30] I and My Father are one.” Was Jesus talking Eternal Security here? |
| Re: Do These Verses Postulate Eternal Security? (JWs are not welcome) by Preciousgirl(op): 9:32pm On Jan 06, 2021 |
Hebrews 7:24-25 [24]But He, because He continues forever, has an unchangeable priesthood. [25]Therefore He is also able to save to the uttermost those who come to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them. |
| Re: Do These Verses Postulate Eternal Security? (JWs are not welcome) by Preciousgirl(op): 9:35pm On Jan 06, 2021 |
Romans 8:38-39 [38]For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, [39]nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. |
| Re: Do These Verses Postulate Eternal Security? (JWs are not welcome) by Preciousgirl(op): 9:39pm On Jan 06, 2021 |
Philippians 1:6 [6]being confident of this very thing, that He who has begun a good work in you will complete it until the day of Jesus Christ; |
| Re: Do These Verses Postulate Eternal Security? (JWs are not welcome) by Preciousgirl(op): 9:43pm On Jan 06, 2021 |
Ephesians 1:13 [13]In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise |
| Re: Do These Verses Postulate Eternal Security? (JWs are not welcome) by Preciousgirl(op): 9:46pm On Jan 06, 2021 |
Ephesians 2:8-10 [8]For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, [9]not of works, lest anyone should boast. [10]For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them. Romans 11:29 [29] For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable. |
| Re: Do These Verses Postulate Eternal Security? (JWs are not welcome) by Preciousgirl(op): 9:47pm On Jan 06, 2021 |
Men of God, what do you think? JWs are not welcome, thanks |
| Re: Do These Verses Postulate Eternal Security? (JWs are not welcome) by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:14am On Jan 07, 2021 |
Preciousgirl:The one and only group of people SENT out to go preaching and TEACHING throughout the earth will help you with whatever question/difficulty you may have in gaining insight from the scriptures. JWs are not welcome, thanksAre you truthfully in need of SPIRITUAL food? This is not the time to resent those SENT by the master to FEED you, but since you are choosy let's see those who will come to quench your spiritual thirst. Even the rich man in Jesus' parable recognized the source of relief when he's suffering from spiritual thirst "Lazarus" but you a woman have so much sealed your heart to the extent that you're determined to continue with your thirst rather than quenching it. Well may you have PEACE! ![]() |
| Re: Do These Verses Postulate Eternal Security? (JWs are not welcome) by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:20am On Jan 07, 2021 |
You only need the sign on the wall! Your so called "men of God" aren't equipped to the extent you're rating them, they will prefer seeing you in the ROMANCE section. You're only useful to them here as false witness against JWs, apart from that you're on your own just like Judas Iscariot! ![]() |
| Re: Do These Verses Postulate Eternal Security? (JWs are not welcome) by DappaD: 8:49am On Jan 07, 2021 |
Preciousgirl:And how's that endeavour been so far? How many of your “men of God” have shown up to give you understanding regarding those verses you put up there? See all you need is to be humble and acknowledge that you have a spiritual need that should be filled properly which is a step in the path to happiness. Matthew 5:3 |
| Re: Do These Verses Postulate Eternal Security? (JWs are not welcome) by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:05am On Jan 07, 2021 |
She wants to wash but she detests WATER! ![]() DappaD: |
| Re: Do These Verses Postulate Eternal Security? (JWs are not welcome) by DappaD: 1:00pm On Jan 07, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:My brother, she has not shown any sign of dissatisfaction with the false teachings that are rampant today so as for now she cannot be Jehovah's lost sheep. Matthew 10:6 Our interests, time and energy go only to those who seek the true God in sincerity and those whom he has drawn to the truth. Psalm 145:18, John 6:44 Until a person can let go of that haughtiness trait, Jehovah our God has no interest in such person. Proverbs 16:5, James 4:6 |
| Re: Do These Verses Postulate Eternal Security? (JWs are not welcome) by peggywebbs(f): 1:49pm On Jan 07, 2021 |
@Preciousgirl.... thank you for your post. I'm always happy reading your messages. I'm not a pastor and I'm not JW but a Christian and someone who thirsts for the word of God. Those verses in my opinion are a reassurance to the children of God that if we put our faith in Christ Jesus we will be saved. However, faith alone or believe alone is not a certain guarantee. It is also tied to a lot of responsibility. If you read James 2:26, Here James affirms that deeds (or actions) are the byproduct of a living faith. Works do not justify us or make us righteous before God, nor are they the means to salvation. Rather, our deeds are the fruit that grows from one who is obedient to God’s commands and transformed by His grace. So basically if you believe in Jesus Christ, you have a duty to walk in righteousness as he did on earth. We are called sons and daughters of God because we exhibit Christ-like behaviour. It is not enough alone to say I believe in Jesus Christ and then we continue in sin and expect to be saved. So in other words...if you also try to live a sinless life and don't believe in Jesus Christ and accept the supreme nature of God, then you can not be saved. Because Jesus is the way, the truth and the light. He is our link to God the Father. However, when we believe in him we are saved. That's my own little understanding... have a great day. Preciousgirl: |
| Re: Do These Verses Postulate Eternal Security? (JWs are not welcome) by Preciousgirl(op): 4:24pm On Jan 07, 2021 |
peggywebbs:Thanks for sharing your thoughts, my sweetheart |
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