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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by fabulous85: 6:06pm On Jan 09, 2021
MrWalban:
Hello House, I just found this thread. Please I was given this quotation for Casement Windows ( Aero-gold ) and burglary. I feel im been cheated considering the budget I had was 850k and this is running into 1.150m already. Kindly advise bosses.
is the quality of the material 'aero gold' better than Tower? am asking because I got a cheaper quotation using tower material
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KelvinCoaster(m): 6:07pm On Jan 09, 2021
n3xt happy new year! Pls i need your estimates: 1) Price of 9'' blocks(without hole); 2) Price of Y16mm and Y12mm iron rods respectively; 3) Roll of binding wire. 4) Price of sharp sand(200 tons); 5) Price of 3quater stones(160 tons).

Location: Just give me the prices within your location!
God bless!!
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 6:24pm On Jan 09, 2021
KelvinCoaster:
n3xt happy new year! Pls i need your estimates:

Location: Just give me the prices within your location!

God bless!!


Greetings Bro! Compliment of the seasons!!

Here are the prices around me as at this moment:

1. Price of 9'' blocks(without hole) - not available around me but hollow block is currently N230/block
2. Price of Y16mm and Y12mm Iron Rods respectively - TMT N310,000 per ton; Local N265,000 per ton.
3. Roll of Binding Wire - N9,000
4. Price of sharp sand (200 tons) - N55,000 Mack Truck which is equivalent to 20 tons
5. Price of 3 Quarter Stones (160 tons) - 3,500 per ton excluding transport

Here are this week's price from other locations near me:

Abeokuta: https://www.kobocity.com/d/41-abeokuta
Isheri/OPIC/Berger: https://www.kobocity.com/d/26-isheriopicberger

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dam4sam: 6:47pm On Jan 09, 2021
n3xt:


Engr dam4sam, I’m here again.

Apart from the difficulty in installation of wired cameras which Baba said he downed with 3 can of trophy, why do you think wired cameras are at disadvantage?

Amateurs do wireless. Pros do wired network for security, wider coverage (my single link can run more than 300ft without signal loss) and the reliability that PoE offers.

_______
Have you heard of frequency jamming?

Astronaut BrabusNG, l think you are just being sarcastic because l dont know what to say to you but your argument sounds like someone who says because Vehicles kill people, he has decided to be trekking from Sagamu to Lagos and back, everyday. I am sure you still use a Nokia 3310, because it is a strong phone. grin grin

Apart from the effort required, the cost of tools required, the time required(which is money, if you are engaging labour), the exposure of wired Camera to the risk of tampering (Criminals first target is to cut the Data Signal CAT 6 Cable to the Camera and your Camera becomes a decoration), Portability or the ease of moving your Camera from point to point, is also a great advantage of Wireless Camera.

There are also multiple points of failure in a Wired Camera, especially around the RJ45 Crimp point, Heat can also deform the Cable over time, breakage is possible over time, etc.
All these are avoidable with Wireless Camera and with robust Security techniques, your signals are encrypted end to end so that snoopers can curse their bad luck.
Since your Smart Phones use Bluetooth, Wifi and other wireless technologies and they are safe enough for you to use it, why would you think a wireless Camera is less Safe?

____________________
Where did you hear that Amateurs are the ones using Wireless Cameras? Well, l guess it is Amateurs that that use Concrete Mixers or use Payloaders, the real professionals mix with Shovels and carry HeadPans on their head.

____________________
Have you heard of 'Adaptive Frequency Hopping' and 'Private Shared Keys Algorithms' before, as mitigation techniques ?
--Smiles__

I watch my Wireless Cameras all the way to Australia, you are talking about 300M wired link ?
-- Smiles --

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dam4sam: 6:49pm On Jan 09, 2021
Smiles all the way
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by MrWalban(m): 6:52pm On Jan 09, 2021
I’m not sure but the artisan made it seem like aero gold is best quality. I feel this is quite pricey for 28 windows.

fabulous85:
is the quality of the material 'aero gold' better than Tower? am asking because I got a cheaper quotation using tower material
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KelvinCoaster(m): 6:55pm On Jan 09, 2021
n3xt:


Greetings Bro! Compliment of the seasons!!

Here are the prices around me as at this moment:

1. Price of 9'' blocks(without hole) - not available around me but hollow block is currently N230/block
2. Price of Y16mm and Y12mm Iron Rods respectively - TMT N310,000 per ton; Local N265,000 per ton.
3. Roll of Binding Wire - N9,000
4. Price of sharp sand (200 tons) - N55,000 Mack Truck which is equivalent to 20 tons
5. Price of 3 Quarter Stones (160 tons) - 3,500 per ton excluding transport

Here are this week's price from other locations near me:

Abeokuta: https://www.kobocity.com/d/41-abeokuta
Isheri/OPIC/Berger: https://www.kobocity.com/d/26-isheriopicberger


Wow,
thanks n3xt for your speedy response!

Remain blessed!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dam4sam: 6:56pm On Jan 09, 2021
n3xt:


Engr dam4sam, I built a bungalow without pillars at a location close to where Lafarge blasts limestone every 2 days. It’s almost 9 years now and there are no signs of visible cracks. Am I taking unnecessary risk?

My foundation though can conveniently support 3 floors. It’s 1.2m deep but no pillars and 9in sandcrete blocks were used.

Astronaut BrabusNG,
I am sure you have built everything in this world, beccause you always say this my buld,, that my build, no matter what is being discussed, Wetin?
I hope you put three Floors on that your Foundation without Pillars, then show us the picture (not internet Packagings), so we can learn from you

___________________________

Best Industry Practice is to put Pillars in Houses, for improved stability.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dam4sam: 7:06pm On Jan 09, 2021
kopell:
Haba why now, Amateurs do wireless pros do wired network?
I’m surprise to hear [b]Egun used 3 cans or big bottle [/b]of
Trophy for installation of just one camera, Egun no supposed to be drinking on duty. Kai no good �

Good tactics!
EgunMogaji2 was just looking for another excuse to down 3Cans, so he told Madam that he is installing a Camera and it will require 5Cans of Trophy but he would try and negotiate it down to just 3Cans grin grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Enyinne(f): 7:10pm On Jan 09, 2021
I see little misunderstanding here . Let me clarify. The people i hv my land with , still retains part of the land of which my own land falls into while the other family hv taken over the other side of the land after LGSC took charge of the matter . I did my survey then but couldn't lodge it cos of this pending issue . Recently both families and LGSC hv settled and land documents perfection is ongoing ,i was told that after the get relevant document from LGSC, that i will do deed of rectification by myself and lodge my survey. Hence i asked for further clarification from the house , to understand much better ,the process and if possible the cost attached to it.

Note : these settlements has attracted new estate to start showing interest in that location.Already 3 eatate hv taken position and advertising Governor consent which i doubt they hv gotten as my land seller sold it to them recently and he has not gotten his own documents so how can estate whom he sold to advertise better title.
dam4sam:


Thank you for this post, l was shocked too, on reading the original Poster.
I was expecting that it is those that sold land to her, that would know exactly how or what went wrong that the New Owners have a better Title than someone they sold to, five years earlier.

I suspect that the those who sold to her dont have Valid title or did not perfect their Title before the New Owners took advantage and now she is left in limbo.
Ratification with LASG might not be her real Solution, it may lie in negotiating a "Land Ratification Amount" with the New owners.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dam4sam: 7:16pm On Jan 09, 2021
EgunMogaji2:


I considered wireless but I’ll have to deal with running cable for power.

I eventually sucked it up and learnt the color scheme. I need to also do the crimping on the ground instead of perched up on the ladder.

It’s good stress cheesy

Did you have to run run the Power Cable alongside the Cat6 Data Cable?
What about Voltage drop along the length, if it is more than 300ft between power source and Camera, how did you resolve that?
l love good stress too, especially if it involves Cans of Trophy.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dam4sam: 7:20pm On Jan 09, 2021
davodyguy:

I suspect the people that sold the land to her, may not be the rightfull owner.

As you said, she may have to buy that land again

Maybe not buy it from Scratch, but they would charge her like 40% of current value and call it Ratification.
All these Lagos Omo-onile, ehn.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 7:23pm On Jan 09, 2021
dam4sam:


Astronaut BrabusNG, l think you are just being sarcastic because l dont know what to say to you but your argument sounds like someone who says because Vehicles kill people, he has decided to be trekking from Sagamu to Lagos and back, everyday. I am sure you still use a Nokia 3310, because it is a strong phone. grin grin

Apart from the effort required, the cost of tools required, the time required(which is money, if you are engaging labour), the exposure of wired Camera to the risk of tampering (Criminals first target is to cut the Data Signal CAT 6 Cable to the Camera and your Camera becomes a decoration), Portability or the ease of moving your Camera from point to point, is also a great advantage of Wireless Camera.

There are also multiple points of failure in a Wired Camera, especially around the RJ45 Crimp point, Heat can also deform the Cable over time, breakage is possible over time, etc.
All these are avoidable with Wireless Camera and with robust Security techniques, your signals are encrypted end to end so that snoopers can curse their bad luck.
Since your Smart Phones use Bluetooth, Wifi and other wireless technologies and they are safe enough for you to use it, why would you think a wireless Camera is less Safe?

____________________
Where did you hear that Amateurs are the ones using Wireless Cameras? Well, l guess it is Amateurs that that use Concrete Mixers or use Payloaders, the real professionals mix with Shovels and carry HeadPans on their head.

____________________
Have you heard of 'Adaptive Frequency Hopping' and 'Private Shared Keys Algorithms' before, as mitigation techniques ?
--Smiles__


It’s been a while we do this beer parlour gist.

I suggest you ask from real experts or do a search on wired network vs wireless network to know better.

You won’t even see my electrical cables from the pole, let alone get access to my network cables.

You think it’s easier to attack a cable network than jam 802.11b network. I shake my head!
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 7:25pm On Jan 09, 2021
https://www.usnews.com/360-reviews/security-cameras/wired-vs-wireless#:~:text=If%20you're%20considering%20home,main%20types%3A%20wired%20and%20wireless.&text=Wireless%20cameras%20communicate%20over%20Wi,household%20outlet)%20or%20by%20batteries.



The above link should settle this argument... wired poe camera any day....

Unless if it’s a building you can’t run wire...

If you doing one or two camera wireless is good but anything above 4 kindly go for wired cameras...

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 7:25pm On Jan 09, 2021
dam4sam:


Did you have to run run the Power Cable alongside the Cat6 Data Cable?
What about Voltage drop along the length, if it is more than 300ft between power source and Camera, how did you resolve that?
l love good stress too, especially if it involves Cans of Trophy.

You see grin what we are talking about.

If he’s doing PoE, power will go that far without issh.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 7:31pm On Jan 09, 2021
dam4sam:


Astronaut BrabusNG,
I am sure you have built everything in this world, beccause you always say this my buld,, that my build, no matter what is being discussed, Wetin?
I hope you put three Floors on that your Foundation without Pillars, then show us the picture (not internet Packagings), so we can learn from you

___________________________

Best Industry Practice is to put Pillars in Houses, for improved stability.

I’m an explorer and not a conformist so I don’t wait for a client to do some stuffs by myself.

You can schedule a visit to these project. You can’t quickly put up a 8 year old bungalow without a pillar near Lafarge Cement plant within a day.

Whether you chose to believe now or not is not my problem. I just gave you an open invitation. grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 7:33pm On Jan 09, 2021
twinskenny:
https://www.usnews.com/360-reviews/security-cameras/wired-vs-wireless#:~:text=If%20you're%20considering%20home,main%20types%3A%20wired%20and%20wireless.&text=Wireless%20cameras%20communicate%20over%20Wi,household%20outlet)%20or%20by%20batteries.



The above link should settle this argument... wired poe camera any day....

Unless if it’s a building you can’t run wire...

If you doing one or two camera wireless is good but anything above 4 kindly go for wired cameras...

Thanks bro!

Now we can go to sleep.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dam4sam: 7:44pm On Jan 09, 2021
Desanta:

Where can I get this wireless camera at a reasonable price?


Cheapest to get it from China. On Ebay, AliExpress.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mini-Camera-Wireless-Wifi-IP-Home-Security-1080P-DVR-Night-Vision-Video-Monitor/254705268545?hash=item3b4d9df741:g:9IQAAOSw66tfwF-J

I bought six of the one below and just throw it around the house because it is so versatile.
It charges via USB, it has internal Storage on MicroSD Card, can record to Cloud, has a magnetic base that can stick to any metal (one is on my Gate you wont even know there is a Camera there (the size is very small), Works both in daytime and uses infra red at night, can zoom, l can view it on my Phone through an App and best of all, l can watch it from ANYWHERE l am in the World.
Each costs less than #6,000, depending on the exchange rate, l buy with my own Pay Pal Account though.
What more can someone ask for?
---Smiles --

Bigger Ones like this are used to first impress and scare intruders, so they dont even bother to come around.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1080P-HD-Network-Cam-Wireless-WIFI-IP-Camera-CCTV-In-Outdoor-Security-IR-Night/273984701377?hash=item3fcac2c3c1:g:DqUAAOSwLotdZzgq

And if you want to deploy the BIG GUNS, as in Nuclear Weapons, you can use the ones below.
[url]https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000261601434.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.393bfc99diK8oS&algo_pvid=e4b44713-6ac5-437a-bedb-d906dcee3fd6&algo_expid=e4b44713-6ac5-437a-bedb-d906dcee3fd6-59&btsid=0bb0623316102176912961160e175d&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_[/url]

Everything is by Budget, by Budget size

I hope spambot wont take me out for these links

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dam4sam: 7:47pm On Jan 09, 2021
n3xt:


I’m an explorer and not a conformist so I don’t wait for a client to do some stuffs by myself.

You can schedule a visit to these project. You can’t quickly put up a 8 year old bungalow without a pillar near Lafarge Cement plant within a day.

Whether you chose to believe now or not is not my problem. I just gave you an open invitation. grin


---Smiles ---
I dont listen to Internet Packaging invitation. Stop selling Snake Oil
No Pillar Bungalow, carrying three Floors. Abeg, lie but keep it to a minimum.
Seen is believing, put your Money where you Mouth is, DO IT and Let us See.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dam4sam: 7:52pm On Jan 09, 2021
Enyinne:
I see little misunderstanding here . Let me clarify. The people i hv my land with , still retains part of the land of which my own land falls into while the other family hv taken over the other side of the land after LGSC took charge of the matter . I did my survey then but couldn't lodge it cos of this pending issue . Recently both families and LGSC hv settled and land documents perfection is ongoing ,i was told that after the get relevant document from LGSC, that i will do deed of rectification by myself and lodge my survey. Hence i asked for further clarification from the house , to understand much better ,the process and if possible the cost attached to it.

Note : these settlements has attracted new estate to start showing interest in that location.Already 3 eatate hv taken position and advertising Governor consent which i doubt they hv gotten as my land seller sold it to them recently and he has not gotten his own documents so how can estate whom he sold to advertise better title.

Apologies Madam.
Omo Oniles are full of tactics here and there.`
God speed.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dam4sam: 7:57pm On Jan 09, 2021
n3xt:


It’s been a while we do this beer parlour gist.

I suggest you ask from real experts or do a search on wired network vs wireless network to know better.

You won’t even see my electrical cables from the pole, let alone get access to my network cables.

You think it’s easier to attack a cable network than jam 802.11b network. I shake my head!


Please go and sit down, l have been doing stuffs like these when you were still in Pyjamas and that is not a slight.
I am not interested in all these forming over the internet, packaging and smooth talk.
802.11b standard for wireless internet has been abandoned since 2006 or thereabout. grin
Even wireless 'n' standard is more than ten years old. You need to get current and discuss recent innovations in wireless standards.
Anyway, each man to his own, l am not here to prove anything to anybody.

As we say, @NotABibeli.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 8:03pm On Jan 09, 2021
dam4sam:


Please go and sit down, l have been doing stuffs like these when you were still in Pyjamas and that is not a slight.
I am not interested in all these forming over the internet, packaging and smooth talk.
802.11b standard for wireless internet has been abandoned since 2006 or thereabout. grin
Even wireless 'n' standard is more than ten years old. You need to get current and discuss recent innovations in wireless standards.
Anyway, each man to his own, l am not here to prove anything to anybody.

As we say, @NotABibeli.

I just recently installed a couple of this. It’s from Sony IPELA family.

It’s not internet packaging. I actually attach a picture of the camera on one of the gate I showcase here few months back to give you ideas.

For you to even argue wireless network is more secure than wired network gave me all the information I needed.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 8:04pm On Jan 09, 2021
dam4sam:


Maybe not buy it from Scratch, but they would charge her like 40% of current value and call it Ratification.
All these Lagos Omo-onile, ehn.
That word Ratification is becoming common these days.

Ọmọ onile seems to be waking up
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Enyinne(f): 8:22pm On Jan 09, 2021
With the discussion ongoing offline with their lawyers and here . I hv decided to cut my lose into 2 as someone whom they refered to me has been disturbing to buy part of the land , i hv made up my mind to sell 1 plot to him . I dont hv strength for Lagos state issue and Omonile wahala.
dam4sam:


Maybe not buy it from Scratch, but they would charge her like 40% of current value and call it Ratification.
All these Lagos Omo-onile, ehn.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 8:26pm On Jan 09, 2021
dam4sam:


Did you have to run run the Power Cable alongside the Cat6 Data Cable?
What about Voltage drop along the length, if it is more than 300ft between power source and Camera, how did you resolve that?
l love good stress too, especially if it involves Cans of Trophy.

That’s the beauty of POE devices. The single CAT6 cable carries audio, video and power. One cable.

My house is 80 feet by 50 feet, I’ll never have any run over 90 feet at most.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Enyinne(f): 8:27pm On Jan 09, 2021
I ratified my current place of build this December. I didnt find it funny paying 1.1m for it and this particular one is company owned land .I wouldn't like to battle it out with Omonile or Lagos state grin
davodyguy:

That word Ratification is becoming common these days.

Ọmọ onile seems to be waking up
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 8:29pm On Jan 09, 2021
dam4sam:


Good tactics!
EgunMogaji2 was just looking for another excuse to down 3Cans, so he told Madam that he is installing a Camera and it will require 5Cans of Trophy but he would try and negotiate it down to just 3Cans grin grin

EgunMogaji has no Madam cool

It’s scary because I can just buy anything without seeking permission from a Madam.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by jedisco(m): 8:52pm On Jan 09, 2021
@house

Whats the average cost difference between long span, step-tile and stone-coated roofing all thigs being equal?

Im looking at 0.55mm... Considering the cost of wood and roofing tiles and workmanship are we looking at x2 of the cost of longspan or step-tile. I know there'd be some added variability based on the brand but what's the baseline difference on the average?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by egbaguy2: 9:07pm On Jan 09, 2021
Hello all,just found myself in this thread.
Just to let you know my company produce the best tile adhesive in Nigeria.
We have been in business long before lafarge introduced their.
Topfix super and Nitotile gp are the tile adhesives we produce.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 9:12pm On Jan 09, 2021
egbaguy2:
Hello all,just found myself in this thread.
Just to let you know my company produce the best tile adhesive in Nigeria.
We have been in business long before lafarge introduced their.
Topfix super and Nitotile gp are the tile adhesives we produce.

Which class of adhesive do you use? C0, C1 or C2
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 9:18pm On Jan 09, 2021
Enyinne:
I ratified my current place of build this December. I didnt find it funny paying 1.1m for it and this particular one is company owned land .I wouldn't like to battle it out with Omonile or Lagos state grin
Before you buy any property, get professionals involved.

1. A seasoned Estate Surveyor and Valuer(not road side agent or Baba Iyabo Caretaker)

2. A legal practitioner

3. A registered land surveyor (not someone who can use the theodolite that claims to be a Surveyor, but someone registered with NIS)

It saves time and money

That's Andron Homes, or Revolution Plus or Happy Homes property company advertised land to you, doesn't mean the land would have perfect title without encumbrance. Some may have clean titles, but some may not

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