Pecuman:


Everything is good here except that we don't need Igbo president.

What did Ijaw president (Goodluck Jonathan) do for Ijaw?. Any Igbo president will be slave of Fulani establishment. What we need is referendum and a return to a truly Federal model. Let South-East and the outlying Igbo areas have their own fully Autonomous again, as we had before (except this time non-Igbo portions of former Eastern Nigeria can chose to stay or form their own region).

I prefer Igbo Province like we have the Ashanti Region in Ghana and England in UK, I prefer a return to Aburi accord instead full scale regional governments, The president should stay alongside a regional government on tribal line as an Igbo I will not support regional government where we will be East rather I prefer Asaba be added to Igboland and Igweocha with Ezza and we can be in the East central Region, or Alaigbo or Igbo Province

obailala:
Hmmm... Lucky Eluonye Onyenuchea Irabor, an Anioma man has just been appointed as a service chief but there're still cries in the open about PMB not appointing Igbos in the military?... Going by the current sentiments, a Delta Igbo man apparently isn't a 'proper' Igbo man...

When it's convenient, we claim all of Anioma land, Igbanke in Edo, some parts Benue and half of Rivers state as Igboland; but when it comes to politics, we thoughtlessly discriminate and ostracise these people even publicly all because they aren't from the south east zone... and we wonder why non-southeastern Igbos have sworn to never accept their Igboness?

Stop posting nonsense.
No Igbo man denied Irabor. Nnia Nwodo don't speak for Ndiigbo.

If anything it's Nigerians that play funny games with Igbos in Delta and Edo. They become Igbo when convenient for them and non Igbo when its not.
The man who named his dog after Buhari and was arrested was an Igbo man from Anioma, same Igbo town in Delta that some mischievous Yorubas claim is Yorubaland, but it was Ndiigbo that were bashed for the man's actions. No one from Niger delta, Delta state or Edo state came out to claim the man. All news agencies called him Igbo man and Ndiigbo bore the brunt of his actions.
https://www.nairaland.com/3293032/trader-arrested-naming-dog-buhari
Nzeogwu is from Anioma too. No Edo man will agree for Nzeogwu coup to be called Edo coup, no Niger Delta will agree for it to be called Niger Delta coup. They all agree that Nzeogwu and his Anioma people are Igbos just because his actions have negative connotations. Ndiigbo never denied Nzeogwu or his people for once.

When an Anioma person is in the news for good things, Nigerians(Edo, minorities in Delta) will jump out and tell Ndiigbo that Anioma is not Igbo.
If an Anioma person is in the news for bad things, these same lots will quickly label them Igbos and bash Ndiigbo.

When Ojukwu appointed Dr Okonkwo as the Governor of Benin Republic, the Minorities there especially the Edos opposed it strongly and accused Ojukwu of trying to enthrone Igbo hegemony on them.
But Dr Okonkwo was from Anioma, the same people Edo people tell us are Edo descendants when it's convenient for them to do so.
Who is deceiving who?

AlexBells:
People should stop playing on the collective emotions of the Igbos, he who excludes us has more to regret, Government is turn by turn but even at that Lucky Eluonye Onyenuchea Irabor is an Ika man, an Igboid community in Delta.

There is nothing like Delta Igbo any longer, all of Igboland is one, Congratulations Irabor and the rest should stop trying to make the Igbos feel left out, our security challenge is peculiar and those who need service chiefs should have them.

This is President Buharis presidency, 2023 we are working for an Igbo president, when it is our turn nobody should complain, that's when you will understand that Igbos are majority and not just majority but majority Christian.

We never expected that Buhari will pet us anyway so, it is a welcome development but Igbos if we feel bad let us all prepare for 2023, non of the current politian will represent Igbos come 2023, we are leaving APC and PDP if they fail to give Igbos presidential ticket let's start a regional party in the East with Eastern Youths majority.

So now I hope my people understands that this is the turn of the Fulanis, let them do with power what they wish, it is only temporal let's concentrate on building a better Igboland.

Emm op, I don't think you should have opened this thread so early. The man has just been appointed and can disown the Igbo tag you are putting on him. That's how these people behave. Once they see a little of the federal government attention,they deny the Igbo nation quickly. One day, that man will claim to come from Benin or he might even tell you that Anioma and igbo have nothing in common. Then you will realize that you have been wasting your precious time.

I get the point some igbos are making. When it's time an appointment given to the igbos outside igbo land, everybody will agree that they are igbos even the divide and rule leaders. They will come up with facts,figures, history and everything to show you that they are igbos and that nndigbo have been given the slot. But when it's time to take responsibility in igbo land or about any land issues, they are not in sight. The same people who claimed igbo because of appointments will claim Benin. This is very irritating and annoying at the same time.

As for me, I don't care whoever got the recent appointment. My concern is that people should be secured in the country they claim to belong. I don't see any reason why a nigerian in america should feel safe and secure in america that the nigerian in Nigeria.

Who nzeogwu epp?

pazienza:


Stop posting nonsense.
No Igbo man denied Irabor. Nnia Nwodo don't speak for Ndiigbo.

If anything it's Nigerians that play funny games with Igbos in Delta and Edo. They become Igbo when convenient for them and non Igbo when its not.
The man who named his dog after Buhari and was arrested was an Igbo man from Anioma, same Igbo town in Delta that some mischievous Yorubas claim is Yorubaland, but it was Ndiigbo that were bashed for the man's actions. No one from Niger delta, Delta state or Edo state came out to claim the man. All news agencies called him Igbo man and Ndiigbo bore the brunt of his actions.
Nzeogwu is from Anioma too. No Edo man will agree for Nzeogwu coup to be called Edo coup, no Niger Delta will agree for it to be called Niger Delta coup. They all agree that Nzeogwu and his Anioma people are Igbos just because his actions have negative connotations. Ndiigbo never denied Nzeogwu or his people for once.

When an Anioma person is in the news for good things, Nigerians(Edo, minorities in Delta) will jump out and tell Ndiigbo that Anioma is not Igbo.
If an Anioma person is in the news for bad things, these same lots will quickly label them Igbos and bash Ndiigbo.

When Ojukwu appointed Dr Okonkwo as the Governor of Benin Republic, the Minorities there especially the Edos opposed it strongly and accused Ojukwu of trying to enthrone Igbo hegemony on them.
But Dr Okonkwo was from Anioma, the same people Edo people tell us are Edo descendants when it's convenient for them to do so.
Who is deceiving who?

God bless you.

AlexBells:

We are already working for it, Igboland had come to rise, From Nsukka to Anioma, From Ezza To Ikwerre, No one can keep us back or down

Please remove Ikwerre, those traitors are Bini

Muna4real:


Emm op, I don't think you should have opened this thread so early. The man has just been appointed and can disown the Igbo tag you are putting on him. That's how these people behave. Once they see a little of the federal government attention,they deny the Igbo nation quickly. One day, that man will claim to come from Benin or he might even tell you that Anioma and igbo have nothing in common. Then you will realize that you have been wasting your precious time.

I get the point some igbos are making. When it's time an appointment given to the igbos outside igbo land, everybody will agree that they are igbos even the divide and rule leaders. They will come up with facts,figures, history and everything to show you that they are igbos and that nndigbo have been given the slot. But when it's time to take responsibility in igbo land or about any land issues, they are not in sight. The same people who claimed igbo because of appointments will claim Benin. This is very irritating and annoying at the same time.

As for me, I don't care whoever got the recent appointment. My concern is that people should be secured in the country they claim to belong. I don't see any reason why a nigerian in america should feel safe and secure in america that the nigerian in Nigeria.

It his right to deny but being Igbo is not an option, if you are Igbo you are Igbo, there will be time when even your mother may deny you but that does not mean that she is no longer your mother, there should be different between identity and who we are, you may choose not to identify as Igbo but you can't choose not to be Igbo, I apparently do not care about who he identifies as, I carr about who he was born as

IamAtikulate:

Please remove Ikwerre, those traitors are Bini

Don't be too emotional, if you checked my post history I once reasoned in that line but that's exactly what the outsiders wants us to do

daywalker02:


Irabor is Edo name

Thank you!

But some Igbos are seriously claiming the bearer of the name.

Quite pathetic!!

AlexBells:


I prefer Igbo Province like we have the Ashanti Region in Ghana and England in UK, I prefer a return to Aburi accord instead full scale regional governments, The president should stay alongside a regional government on tribal line as an Igbo I will not support regional government where we will be East rather I prefer Asaba be added to Igboland and Igweocha with Ezza and we can be in the East central Region, or Alaigbo or Igbo Province

True. All the outlaying Igbo areas that still identify as Igbo should come back, I agree. But the level of Autonomy should be up to that, tht Scotland has in the UK.

VirginFinder:


Thank you!

But some Igbos are seriously claiming the bearer of the name.

Quite pathetic!!

Stop acting like you don't know that Igbos commonly take names from other tribes and vice versa.

Many Igbos take English names, Chukwuma Kaduna Nzeogwu took Northern name and same with Zik to a lesser extent and this even happens vice versa as you will see many Bini and Ijaw with Igbo names.

Pecuman:


True. All the outlaying Igbo areas that still identify as Igbo should come back, I agree. But the level of Autonomy should be up to that, tht Scotland has in the UK.

That's what we are working on, a slightly autonomous economy and government, the central government will keep control of the army, Civil service and making laws

Pecuman:


Stop acting like you don't know that Igbos commonly take names from other tribes and vice versa.

Many Igbos take English names, Chukwuma Kaduna Nzeogwu took Northern name and same with Zik to a lesser extent and this even happens vice versa as you will see many Bini and Ijaw with Igbo names.

So Igbos also take surnames Edo surnames for that matter

AlexBells:

Don't be too emotional, if you checked my post history I once reasoned in that line but that's exactly what the outsiders wants us to do

It isn't just outsiders. Almost all Ikwerre Youth will say they are not Igbo and I don not want people saying that Igbo are forcing them into political union, causing inter-generational conflict like we have with the Northerners.

gidgiddy:


The controversy here is that his surname is not Igbo, but Edo. Also, he is from Agbor, which has border with Edo state. He could easily be from a border community in Agbor, with an Edo father and Ika mother. Not all Ika's are Igboid, some are edoid. But it is always the surname that determines which is which.

Lucky Eluonye Onyenuchea Irabor; sure his surname sounds much like an Edo name, I was shocked to discover he was even Deltan. But, then, his two middle names sound Igbo... The point I tried to make is that none of the people inferring he isn't Igbo have bothered to even do these checks you talk about... The sentiment expressed all over the place has been very clear, "even though he may be Igbo, but he's from the SS and not SE". This line of thought stinks of discrimination...

AlexBells:

Yes, if Lucky Irabo is Benin he should have right to the throne, Igboland will sponsor our son to the throne of Benin, since instead of you to focus on your monarchy you want to bring Republicans in your midst, Lucky Irabor, Benin deserves a democracy like we Igbos, Let's extend our province a little, you will be sponsored to seek your ancestral throne...it is your right as a legitimate Benin

So he is no more Iroborochi Leo Ikemefuna

VirginFinder:


So Igbos also take surnames Edo surnames for that matter

I don't know about taking Edo surnames but I live in the North and yes, I have seen people that I can confirm to be Igbo (go to village yearly) that have taken Northern surnames.

(Sometimes it is they have Northern Father but Identity more with their mother's tribe, while other times the last name is changed to the first or middle name of an Igbo patriarchal ancestor that had northern middle or first name.)

Pecuman:


It isn't just outsiders. Almost all Ikwerre Youth will say they are not Igbo and I don not want people saying that Igbo are forcing them into political union, causing inter-generational conflict like we have with the Northerners.

When we pull out Igbo province they can join Ijaws or stay alone, if they are undecided we conduct a referendum for them, it is time to be happy you are Igbo, if they decide to stay on their own, we will erect a fence on the border between them and us, so they can enjoy their stay alone or romance with the Ijaws and Benin.

The walls will be too high and thick we will not hear their laughter nor their cry

VirginFinder:


So he is no more Iroborochi Leo Ikemefuna

That's the name I gave to him it is still valid within my domain do you have a problem with that,

pazienza:


Stop posting nonsense.
No Igbo man denied Irabor. Nnia Nwodo don't speak for Ndiigbo.
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If anything it's Nigerians that play funny games with Igbos in Delta and Edo. They become Igbo when convenient for them and non Igbo when its not.
The man who named his dog after Buhari and was arrested was an Igbo man from Anioma, same Igbo town in Delta that some mischievous Yorubas claim is Yorubaland, but it was Ndiigbo that were bashed for the man's actions. No one from Niger delta, Delta state or Edo state came out to claim the man. All news agencies called him Igbo man and Ndiigbo bore the brunt of his actions.
https://www.nairaland.com/3293032/trader-arrested-naming-dog-buhari
Nzeogwu is from Anioma too. No Edo man will agree for Nzeogwu coup to be called Edo coup, no Niger Delta will agree for it to be called Niger Delta coup. They all agree that Nzeogwu and his Anioma people are Igbos just because his actions have negative connotations. Ndiigbo never denied Nzeogwu or his people for once.

When an Anioma person is in the news for good things, Nigerians(Edo, minorities in Delta) will jump out and tell Ndiigbo that Anioma is not Igbo.
If an Anioma person is in the news for bad things, these same lots will quickly label them Igbos and bash Ndiigbo.

When Ojukwu appointed Dr Okonkwo as the Governor of Benin Republic, the Minorities there especially the Edos opposed it strongly and accused Ojukwu of trying to enthrone Igbo hegemony on them.
But Dr Okonkwo was from Anioma, the same people Edo people tell us are Edo descendants when it's convenient for them to do so.
Who is deceiving who?[/s]

Huh? What sort of deluded nonsense are you saying? That No Igbo man denied Irabor directly or indirectly? Are you saying Nnia Nwodo is the only one who made those statements? Is that exactly what you're saying? Are you sure you're okay or are you blind? or you're just forcefully feigning ignorance just to pass a message across?

I'm sorry I don't subscribe to your brand of self deceit; stopping smoking that thing you're smoking. If you go online on this forum, on facebook, instagram etc., there are thousands of comments from both Igbos and even sympathetic non-Igbos, echoing the same sentiments as Nnia Nwodo. Those misguided statements is exactly what I was addressing in my last comment; if you choose to feign blindness and ignorance to what's very obvious, then that's your damn business. Don't quote me again to tell me I'm saying nonsense when your head is the one churning out deluded trash

AlexBells:

Don't be too emotional, if you checked my post history I once reasoned in that line but that's exactly what the outsiders wants us to do

I don't recognize Ikwerres as Igbos.

IamAtikulate:

I don't recognize Ikwerres as Igbos.

It is okay for you to feel that way for now, don't worry, everything will be sorted, I don't blame them for thinking they are not Igbos, they are victims too, this is a new beginning for all of us,

obailala:
Lucky Eluonye Onyenuchea Irabor; sure his surname sounds much like an Edo name, I was shocked to discover he was even Deltan. But, then, his two middle names sound Igbo... The point I tried to make is that none of the people inferring he isn't Igbo have bothered to even do these checks you talk about... The sentiment expressed all over the place has been very clear, "even though he may be Igbo, but he's from the SS and not SE". This line of thought stinks of discrimination...

Dont be mischievous, the two middle names can be anything. But your surname name is the main indication of who you are. Irabor is an Edo name. No Igbo man has the surname Irabor

gidgiddy:


Dont be mischievous, the two middle names can be anything. But your surname name is the main indication of who you are. Irabor is an Edo name. No Igbo man has the surname Irabor

My last name is Idoko, does that make me an Igala

AlexBells:

It is okay for you to feel that way for now, don't worry, everything will be sorted, I don't blame them for thinking they are not Igbos, they are victims too, this is a new beginning for all of us,

Don't bring traitors into our fold. They will betray again.

They did it during the war, after the war and will still do it again.

Ikwerres are not Igbos please.

Traitors!!!

Pecuman:


I don't know about taking Edo surnames but I live in the North and yes, I have seen people that I can confirm to be Igbo (go to village yearly) that have taken Northern surnames.

(Sometimes it is they have Northern Father but Identity more with their mother's tribe, while other times the last name is changed to the first or middle name of an Igbo patriarchal ancestor that had northern middle or first name.)

But that is definitely not the case with Irabor. He is an Agbor man with Edo roots...

gidgiddy:


Dont be mischievous, the two middle names can be anything. But your surname name is the main indication of who you are. Irabor is an Edo name. No Igbo man has the surname Irabor

But he's from Agbor? So are you saying with 100% certainty that even though he's from Agbor, he is an Edo Agbor man because his surname is Irabor, despite that he has 2 Igbo middle names?

If Irabor is Igbo, why then has there not been any congratulatory messages from Ohaneze Ndigbo officially or unofficially? Why is there no congratulatory messages from prominent Igbo leaders of thought and means on his appointment? Why the outburst by outgoing Ohaneze chairman on the recent appointments?


Simple answers. Irabor is not Igbo. He is Ika. Igbos are becoming too desperate in pettiness, truth be told.

IamAtikulate:

Don't bring traitors into our fold. They will betray again.

They did it during the war, after the war and will still do it again.

Ikwerres are not Igbos please.

Traitors!!!

We will fix that part, you may DM if you want me to clarify you in private the steps we had taken so far

obailala:
But he's from Agbor? So are you saying with 100% certainty that even though he's from Agbor, he is an Edo Agbor man because his surname is Irabor, despite that he has 2 Igbo middle names?

Yes he is from Agbor and Agbor has boundary with Edo state. He could easily be from a boundary village in Agbor that should have been in Edo, but was carved into Delta state and Agbor, hence his Edo surname. His father could have been an Edo settler in Agbor, there are many of them there. The point here is that your ancestral surname is the main determinant of what ethnic group you belong to and Irabor aint Igbo, it is Edo

gidgiddy:


Yes he is from Agbor and Agbor has boundary with Edo state. He could easily be from a boundary village in Agbor that should have been in Edo, but was carved into Delta state and Agbor, hence his Edo surname. His father could have been an Edo settler in Agbor, there are many of them there. The point here is that your ancestral surname is the main determinant of what ethnic group you belong to and Irabor aint Igbo, it is Edo

Then all you said is applicable to Nsukka people then why I'm I answering Idoko and I'm still 101% Igbo, why I'm I not Igala

Simple