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Shma2020:
After all, our underdevelopment is heaven to a common hobbit like you, that is crystal reality . Like I mean, how can a villager in Accra start lecturing us on underdevelopment?

That was not an answer ..


has the tears clouded your eyes so much so that you can't answer a simply question?

Nemesis2you:
It boils down to the individual countries and opinion of their population

Chinese are jealousy protecting their own wild life , while fuelling destruction of others .

If you want your country to destroy your local wild life which by the way is first your national heritage for few hundred millions , than its your decision to make .

Far more money can be made by protecting them and investing in eco tourism and sustainable ideas which generate income for locals.

Once you loose your national wildlife , even trillions of dollars will not get them back for you and the damage you will do to your national ecosystem will run into billions and will be irreversible .

I am no environmentalist nor wild life enthusiast , but I know where a line must be drawn .


Do you know the economic harsh reality of that Chinese curved piece of ivory you showed, for your country ?

u first need to understand the basic economics of production cycle from raw materials to finished product.

You will be killing / maiming your priceless elephants ( which only few countries in the world have ) and harvesting their tusks

Only countries like China , Taiwan etc ( majority of world countries have wild life product trade ban with heavy fines and imprisonment ) will buy them from u for the lowest minimum price possible ( raw materials always have the minimal price in a product cycle ) and since your raw materials have limited market , the money u will get will be even more low .

Then they will use it to make ivory products like the one u showed ( which u cannot make due to obvious reasons relating to National / cultural branding / affiliations / promotions etc , production scale , expertise etc ) and which they will sell for 1000s or more times higher price as Chinese Taiwanese authentic cultural art items and to increase the appeal advertise them as made by authentic Chinese and Taiwanese artists specialising in the same.

So who is the real looser and the real gainer in all these ? Penny wise pound foolish .

End of the day your country , your wildlife , your decision .

And what Kenyan wild life authorities did and r doing , my respects and good wishes to them .

The issue is WILDLIFE UTILISATION, mainly ranching and/or hunting. As the law stands NEITHER is legal in Kenya.
You CAN'T legally shoot a FECKING duck!? A couple of years back I enquired about the licence.
That dogmatic rigidity hurts the poorest in the most marginalised areas, of which there are many in Kenya.
THERE are multiple players in a pro hunting outfit with VERY SPECIFIC SKILLSETS, the PH himself, trackers, skinners and their various apprentices ,the gun and ammo sellers, etc, etc. Also the industry supports local rifle makers
The best example being RSA with over a century of well regulated hunting. Here are a few rifle makers:
https://www.sabirifles.co.za/index.php/products/sabi-rifles/sabi-rifles-detail

http://orpenwapens.co.za/custom-rifle-building/

https://accugun.co.za/about-us/

https://customriflesandstocks.co.za/custom-products/

That zebra skin is easily 2000 USD, American east coast retail market. Its wherefore NOT in anybody's economic interest to destroy zebra herds; but rather to harvest and continue its breeding to ensure continued financial benefit.

These are local Saffa prices of various WILDLIFE skins. NOBODY would want any of those species to disappear.

[url]www.africancraftsmarket.com/products/animal-skins/animal-skins-2.html/url]

Here in Kenya it was tree huggers, professional crywankers and cynical pro hunters who pushed for a blanket non utilisation policy. The first Kenyatta gov in the 70s made millions from ivory and needed an image makeover. Til this day Uhuru, the son feels the need to torch ivory.
The pro hunters are a tight group: EVERYONE knows EVERYONE. The various outfitters often have multiple blocks across Africa. Kenya is special- apart from a long established safari infrastructure unlike most countries it also has every climate zone; high montane, true desert, semi desert, savanna, deciduous savanna etc, etc.
I'm told it was the more self interested Pro hunters who gained the most: prices elsewhere in RSA, Bots, Nam', Cameroon could remain high.
Btw, pretending animals are human and CAN'T be hunted is illogical! When they die this is WHAT happens.
Who benefits? We're wayyyy overdue for a srs rethink on a realistic wildlife use policy but those vested interests still control the media narrative.

rvp20182:
Street view tended to be careful selected. Give me drone view.

I know you're pushing the inane idea that Nairobi city is small - without relent

This Nairobi Metro - 20kms-30kms - towards Thika

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP0vtmc-GVk&t=275s

Nairobi 40kms away from CBD - thika town (city really) - is jointed with Nairobi - just like Kitengela, Ngong, Rongai, kikuyu, kiambu etc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D09-0WOrFj4

These vloggers are damn too funny, they starts by showing a drive from either from Nairobi cbd or thika highways , getting closer to this slummy areas calls Kitengela,Rongai, Kikuyu,Juja,Thika they then fly drones showing some tiny nice estates in a repeated way while avoiding the inner streetd.
Is it hard to show us the inner street views of Thika,Juja, Kitengela without without the drone shots of some small estates mostly occupied by muhindi,whites and few fortunate Kenyans?
Bellow are street drives around Abuja(inner city drives not drone shots of few nice estates).
Garki Abuja


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZuyj2TpH1g
Gwarimpa Abuja

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRrFYO3wLuI
Katampe, Abuja

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6Y_unvI4Ow
Wuse Abuja

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow4h7QVJmOc
Rvp, let me be sincere with u, No, city in East Africa(not even Kenya) can come close to Abuja in terms of development, Abuja is far more Developed than most cities in Africa

Just30:
Is there anywhere in Accra that fits that description?

Almost everywhere ........oh sorry you live takroadi maybe that's why you don't know.

Shma2020:
We're now back to Underdevelopment tantrums in stage four of justolying genetic composition to be a zombie. ..

I know jln115's blue tick broke your heart so badly that you can't save face at the moment ..

I should buy for you diapers and let you sleep so that you can't pee in your trouser .. I know the pain is uncontrollable at the moment

the pain caused by the exposure of your country has tipped your brain over such that your arguments all over the place.


No more distractions

68816419:
Nigga, akwa iibom , Calabar, pH, Kano, Kaduna,Enugu, Ibadan, Owerri,Ogun,Ondo,Delta....are far more Developed than Mombasa and Nairobi (excluding the tiny CBD, let's us talk about the infrastructures such as Airports, stadium, roads, Hospitals and the rest.

Owerri, Imo state(South West Nigeria)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meY6tHSgImc
Calabar (South South Nigeria), arguably the second greenest city in Africa before Abuja

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IUGvdLWJBA
Akure, Ondo state (South Western Nigeria): this state alone is far more Developed than Mombasa (forget about the tiny clusters of tall building in Nairobi and Mombasa?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM5_voVjOeQ
I could show roads in all the 36 states include fact if u want?, Nigeria is not like average African countries where Development only ends in the capital city and few other cities, in Nigeria, every state have at least 3 Developed cities in it..

You are talking too much with nothing to show for it. This is Oweri 2021.

popizaino:
Almost everywhere ........oh sorry you live takroadi maybe that's why you don't know.

Everywhere and yet you don't have an example

When will you stop lying ?

Just30:
That was not an answer ..


has the tears clouded your eyes so much so that you can't answer a simply question?

You're now shivering and fumbling so bad ~ effects of frustration and pain syndrome diluted with expired viagra. .

Relax, take your time and type without pressure.

What is simply question?

68816419:
These vloggers are damn too funny, they starts by showing a driver from either Nairobi or thika highways , getting closer to this slummy areas calls Kitengela,Rongai, Kikuyu,Juja,Thika they then fly drones showing some tiny nice estates in a repeated way while avoiding the inner streetd.
Is it hard to show us the inner street views of Thika,Juja, Kitengela without without the drone shots of some small estates mostly occupied by muhindi,whites and few fortunate Kenyans?
Bellow are street drives around Abuja(inner city drives not drone shots of few nice estates).
Garki Abuja


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZuyj2TpH1g
Gwarimpa Abuja

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRrFYO3wLuI
Katampe, Abuja

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6Y_unvI4Ow
Wuse Abuja

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow4h7QVJmOc
[b]Rvp, let me be sincere with u, No, I no city in East Africa(not even Kenya) can come close to Abuja in terms of development, [/b]Abuja is far more Developed that than most cities in Africa

Which development is there in Abuja? Let's start from there.

Just30:
the pain caused by the exposure of your country has tipped your brain over such that your arguments all over the place.


No more distractions

Stand up, breath in..
.......... Then out....... . Do it smoothly to avoid chocks.

Then let's say this together :

SAY NO TO COCA*IN

Shma2020:
What YOU -are doing ryna, Is formulating tantrums from your an*us. You're speaking what is not there.

Just by pics, you'll know Nairobi has more-decent infrastructure than your biggest slumbolish city. Quality index is very important and that's why you'll see WB using road quality index to measure infrastructure dev on roads. Generators can't be a yardstick for gauging development, Nairobi uses generators as second last option to access electricity.

Abuja is a jungle with few buildings, it can't stand Mombasa .

All of this is noise bro. I hope U got my point in the end.
Ur cities and infastructures has a long way to go and that's just a bitter fact.

See I told you - you can only compete with Kitengela.
Now you're bringing your A-game.

And when we bring the rundas, karens - that occupy more than half of Nairobi landmass.

That will be too much for you of course. Those ones are word class developed world standards.

Let try Kiambu - which is 20kms from Nairobi city center - in Nairobi Metro - it's just need a little more of horizontal infrastructure - and it becomes another runda


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwrP0H_hkoU

68816419:
These vloggers are damn too funny, they starts by showing a driver from either Nairobi or thika highways , getting closer to this slummy areas calls Kitengela,Rongai, Kikuyu,Juja,Thika they then fly drones showing some tiny nice estates in a repeated way while avoiding the inner streetd.
Is it hard to show us the inner street views of Thika,Juja, Kitengela without without the drone shots of some small estates mostly occupied by muhindi,whites and few fortunate Kenyans?
Bellow are street drives around Abuja(inner city drives not drone shots of few nice estates).
Garki Abuja


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZuyj2TpH1g
Gwarimpa Abuja

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRrFYO3wLuI
Katampe, Abuja

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6Y_unvI4Ow
Wuse Abuja

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow4h7QVJmOc
[b]Rvp, let me be sincere with u, No, I no city in East Africa(not even Kenya) can come close to Abuja in terms of development, [/b]Abuja is far more Developed that than most cities in Africa

tylann:
He knows every project taking place in Kenya he must be samorobo

Lmao oga I am not Samorobo ooo. I read about that some Pages back.

Just30:
No more distractions

Deal

Shma2020:
You're now shivering and fumbling so bad ~ effects of frustration and pain syndrome diluted with expired viagra. .

Relax, take your time and type without pressure.

What is simply question?

now you have glaucoma and cant see a question

check on the previous page, you will see it.

make sure you wipe your eyes of the tears

Shma2020:
Stand up, breath in..
.......... Then out....... . Do it smoothly to avoid chocks.

Then let's say this together :

SAY NO TO COCA*IN

eii, just a question too, you cant answer and you are doing breathing exercises already?

so answer why kenya has been in a water supply crisis for the past 10 years and no solution?

Shma2020:
Deal

Indeed Nairobi is water deficient because Nairobi and it's metro has grown so fast.
Nairobi north collector is nearing completion.
Saisuma dam is near completion.

Here is Nairobi North Water Collector project - Phase 1 - will ADD 140M litres per day to NAIROBI

Nairobi requires 825K cubic meters per day - and Nairobi right now get supplied with 500K cubic meters - and north collector (will take it 640K cubic meters per day) and others will fill the gap.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsV0_t70Tpo

There are other dams around Nairobi metro.

Just30:
so answer why kenya has been in a water supply crisis for the past 10 years and no solution?

Just30:
eii, just a question too, you cant answer and you are doing breathing exercises already?

Do I look like a county mCA?

Algeria with about the same or less oil than NIgeria'

See the university - Nigeria oil could have done the same


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2mVxBW9rtg&feature=emb_logo

Nairobi North Collector - Phase 1 - adding 140k cubic meter per day - ready to be consumed this quarter.

With longest tunnel in kenya - 12KMS - LONG


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnK0aFyi3X4

SHMA202

this wasnt so hard

rvp20182:
Indeed Nairobi is water deficient because Nairobi and it's metro has grown so fast.
Nairobi north collector is nearing completion.
Saisuma dam is near completion.

Here is Nairobi North Water Collector project - Phase 1 - will ADD 140M litres per day to NAIROBI

Nairobi requires 825K cubic meters per day - and Nairobi right now get supplied with 500K cubic meters - and north collector (will take it 640K cubic meters per day) and others will fill the gap.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsV0_t70Tpo

There are other dams around Nairobi metro.

you dont have to be a county mCA to know much about your country

Shma2020:
Do I look like a county mCA?

rvp20182:
See I told you - you can only compete with Kitengela.
Now you're bringing your A-game.

And when we bring the rundas, karens - that occupy more than half of Nairobi landmass.

That will be too much for you of course. Those ones are word class developed world standards.

Let try Kiambu - which is 20kms from Nairobi city center - in Nairobi Metro - it's just need a little more of horizontal infrastructure - and it becomes another runda


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwrP0H_hkoU

Madman, I could show thousands of such estates across Nigeria from Maiduguri to Lagos.
I only asked u to show me a road trip(not a drone shots of estates), I mean street virews from kiambu, Runda or any other parts of Nairobi outside the the tiny CBD, can u please?

Nothing new. Same old things





Let me go back to YouTube

Wuoche:
Which development is there in Abuja? Let's start from there.

World class road networks, world class sporting infrastructures, massive airport, light rail, planned and green city, parks and many more.
Abuja hosted world cups and all Africa games can Mombasa or even Nairobi dares to do so?

Why are you embittered and frustrated.
Why would you go for street view when you have drone views?
You have a problem with reality or what?
Let me tell in Kenya - street view - will not show you much - because we invest in trees, hedges and greenery.
Unless you want to see street view of the business districts.
Otherwise estates in kenya are lined with too much trees and high school - you'll not see much.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb44Qlpw-Zc

68816419:
Madman, I could show thousands of such estates across Nigeria from Maiduguri to Lagos.
I only asked u to show me a road trip(not a drone shots of estates), I mean street virews from kiambu, Runda or any other parts of Nairobi outside the the tiny CBD, can u please?

rvp20182:
Why are you embittered and frustrated.
Why would you go for street view when you have drone views?
You have a problem with reality or what?
Let me tell in Kenya - street view - will not show you much - because we invest in trees, hedges and greenery.
Unless you want to see street view of the business districts.
Otherwise estates in kenya are lined with too much trees and high school - you'll not see much.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb44Qlpw-Zc

Ohh Really, Abuja and Calabar are probably the greenest cities in Africa, but from my videos , one could tell what cities looks better, u now see why we say Nigeria cities are far more Developed than kenya, if your best area(west land) looks this horrible and can not even come close yola, adamawa state(North East Nigeria) which happens to be among the poorest in Nigeria, how then would mombasa, Juja, Kitengela, Thika or even Karen be compared with owerri not even uyo.
RVP, are u really ok upstair?
Yola, Adamawa (one of the poorest state in Nigeria


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc778g0y-_w
Abuja


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZuyj2TpH1g


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aD_JY5eDQCM

rvp20182:
Konza technopolis - Nairobi train

Today is a very exciting day as we take the first Nairobi - Konza Technopolis train, this will further enhance transportation options and open up the Technopolis and the buffer zone area for further investments

U should be ashamed of this truck. Get a ight rail or at best a high speed train. This is the 21st century not the primitive 18th century. Thanks in advance

rvp20182:
Indeed Nairobi is water deficient because Nairobi and it's metro has grown so fast.
Nairobi north collector is nearing completion.
Saisuma dam is near completion.

Here is Nairobi North Water Collector project - Phase 1 - will ADD 140M litres per day to NAIROBI

Nairobi requires 825K cubic meters per day - and Nairobi right now get supplied with 500K cubic meters - and north collector (will take it 640K cubic meters per day) and others will fill the gap.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsV0_t70Tpo

There are other dams around Nairobi metro.

how many years will this take. Over the past five years yet nothing. This was supposed to be completed last year. What going on bro

rvp20182:
Why are you embittered and frustrated.
Why would you go for street view when you have drone views?
You have a problem with reality or what?
Let me tell in Kenya - street view - will not show you much - because we invest in trees, hedges and greenery.
Unless you want to see street view of the business districts.
Otherwise estates in kenya are lined with too much trees and high school - you'll not see much.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb44Qlpw-Zc

Lmao U are funny oooo. U don't have a better neighbourhood than Canada,US,UK,SA but yet drive to their neighbourhood is breathtaking and exotic. U have no point my friends.ur neighbourhoods are crappy and has nothing to show for it.

Just30:
the pain caused by the exposure of your country has tipped your brain over such that your arguments all over the place.


No more distractions

You are describing yourself if you havent realised it.