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NOwazobia:
From whence comes the ability to instigate death?

The answer is Intelligence!

Here is the answer to your question




NOwazobia! All I Am Saying Is That No Man Is Born evil Or Good. You Should Watch That Video


We Are Born To Meet Both Abstract Choices...


Our Environment Instigates our Learning, ask Yourself How Did The First Men Learn To Treat themselves? Were They Born With The Knowledge?

Man Is Born With Free Will And Intelligence, our Intelligence Level Differs From One Another some Understand Things Faster Or Better Than Others, some Can Quickly Interpret environmental Activities And Relate It To their Reality.

Take For Example, two Cave Men Witness A Lion Kill An Animal, they Observe That The Lion Killed That Animal With Strength and Sharp Teeth. They Have Learnt That If I Have Something As Sharp as A Lion's Teeth I Can Kill an Animal Too, intelligence Will Make A Man Think Of Using Such To also Kill Another Man, his Ability To Kill Another Man Is A Choice.

IamPlato:
I already explained that to you in one of my previous posts

How can you probably seperate man from nature. Man is just a part of a whole. If the ability for man to reason is natural, then the ability for man to reason death should be natural. You are thinking strictly directly but you and i know that a grand son is also member of a family.

IamPlato:
The answer is Intelligence!
Here is the answer to your question
NOwazobia! All I Am Saying Is That No Man Is Born evil Or Good. You Should Watch That Video
We Are Born To Meet Both Abstract Choices...
Our Environment Instigates our Learning, ask Yourself How Did The First Men Learn To Treat themselves? Were They Born With The Knowledge?
Man Is Born With Free Will And Intelligence, our Intelligence Level Differs From One Another some Understand Things Faster Or Better Than Others, some Can Quickly Interpret environmental Activities And Relate It To their Reality.
Take For Example, two Cave Men Witness A Lion Kill An Animal, they Observe That The Lion Killed That Animal With Strength and Sharp Teeth. They Have Learnt That If I Have Something As Sharp as A Lion's Teeth I Can Kill an Animal Too, intelligence Will Make A Man Think Of Using Such To also Kill Another Man, his Ability To Kill Another Man Is A Choice.

the video is just another opinoin.

IamPlato:
The answer is Intelligence!
Here is the answer to your question
NOwazobia! All I Am Saying Is That No Man Is Born evil Or Good. You Should Watch That Video
We Are Born To Meet Both Abstract Choices...
Our Environment Instigates our Learning, ask Yourself How Did The First Men Learn To Treat themselves? Were They Born With The Knowledge?
Man Is Born With Free Will And Intelligence, our Intelligence Level Differs From One Another some Understand Things Faster Or Better Than Others, some Can Quickly Interpret environmental Activities And Relate It To their Reality.
Take For Example, two Cave Men Witness A Lion Kill An Animal, they Observe That The Lion Killed That Animal With Strength and Sharp Teeth. They Have Learnt That If I Have Something As Sharp as A Lion's Teeth I Can Kill an Animal Too, intelligence Will Make A Man Think Of Using Such To also Kill Another Man, his Ability To Kill Another Man Is A Choice.

is intelligence artificial?

IamPlato:
The answer is Intelligence!

Here is the answer to your question




NOwazobia! All I Am Saying Is That No Man Is Born evil Or Good. You Should Watch That Video


We Are Born To Meet Both Abstract Choices...


Our Environment Instigates our Learning, ask Yourself How Did The First Men Learn To Treat themselves? Were They Born With The Knowledge?

Man Is Born With Free Will And Intelligence, our Intelligence Level Differs From One Another some Understand Things Faster Or Better Than Others, some Can Quickly Interpret environmental Activities And Relate It To their Reality.

"when does man learn to treat himself". Something bad must have happen for man to learn to treat himself. Which gives credence to my argument that man is inherently evil, as a product of evil nature. Diseases, accident are evil circumstances that cause man pain, which makes them part of our evil discussion. For man to treat himself mans that they encounter the evil in nature.

NOwazobia:
is intelligence artificial?

so You Want To Say Intelligence Is Evil Since It is Natural. Hahahaha


Maybe You Should Read That Post Again.


Evil Is A Choice, evil Is Not Part Of Our Natural Order.

Natural Order Are Things That Are Necessary for Man. Is Evil Necessary?


Evil Is Learnt, it All Depends On The Way Man Interprets his Knowledge learnt From His Environment

IamPlato:
so You Want To Say Intelligence Is Evil Since It is Natural. Hahahaha


Maybe You Should Read That Post Again.


Evil Is A Choice, evil Is Not Part Of Our Natural Order.

Natural Order Are Things That Are Necessary for Man. Is Evil Necessary?


Evil Is Learnt, it All Depends On The Way Man Interprets his Knowledge learnt From His Environment

Intelligence is natural and evil is a product of intelligence. What does that makes evil. If choices are a product of intelligence, what does that makes choices. I know your argument. Your argument is that nature is automated and anything that alters that automation is evil. But if we agree that intelligence is natural the theory of natural automation becomes void.

NOwazobia:
Intelligence is natural and evil is a product of intelligence. What does that makes evil. If choices are a product of intelligence, what does that makes choices. I know your argument. Your argument is that nature is automated and anything that alters that automation is evil. But if we agree that intelligence is natural the theory of natural automation becomes void.

i didnt say nature is an automatic process, if it were then free will would not exist

IamPlato:
Lol. Mad Oh! Ishi you Actually just Threw A Blast At Me. Insultin a Full Grown Man



Anyway, we All Grow Everyday in Knowledge

I'm sorry if I sound insulting, but your comments in the past have given this impression

IamPlato:
i didnt say nature is an automatic process, if it were then free will would not exist

freewill is another popular debated topic, but let me leave that for now.
Another part of your argument is that man is neither evil nor bad naturally, rather, the environment corrupted man. But the environment is like an inanimate object that cannot corrupt it self: an object will remain at a state of rest until acted upon by an opposing force. Such opposing force must be a force that has life or behave like one e.g. Animals, wind, human... But only human has the ability to act hyper rational to consciously influence an object for good or bad. My question is this, if environment corrupted man, who corrupted the environment or is the environment inherently evil? Can an environment without life, especially an intelligent one that can make and abort choices be morally depraved; can it be evil?

IamPlato:
I would like to have people like Ladyhippolyta88, Dominique, cococandy, Pocohantas ishilove on this show one day


Ladyhippolyta88 likes to mind her business most probably because she feels humans are naturally evil and unchangeable so it's best to let everyone be, just saying though

Don't be swayed by popular opinion. Ishilove, for instance cannot hold a discussion on politics and philosophy. Or maybe you are looking for drama.....

Back to the topic.

Good and evil are very subjective and vague terms. Morality is a complex issue.

Humans are animals at the end of the day. We are bound by some natural instincts and some of those natural instincts would be described as "evil" by the rational side of our brains.

Do you call a shark evil for eating a human swimmer in the ocean? No. It is just eating. It is following its nature, its instincts to survive.

We humans eat animals to survive. We also kill fellow humans to survive at times.

I am just showing the complexity of morality.

There is so much to say.

Stalker be stalking me into 2021. This kind of psychosis na wa

JackBizzle:
Don't be swayed by popular opinion. Ishilove, for instance cannot hold a discussion on politics and philosophy. Or maybe you are looking for drama.....

Back to the topic.

Good and evil are very subjective and vague terms. Morality is a complex issue.

Humans are animals at the end of the day. We are bound by some natural instincts and some of those natural instincts would be described as "evil" by the rational side of our brains.

Do you call a shark evil for eating a human swimmer in the ocean? No. It is just eating. It is following its nature, its instincts to survive.

We humans eat animals to survive. We also kill fellow humans to survive at times.

I am just showing the complexity of morality.

There is so much to say.

seemS You Have Had Issues With Ishi before


Back To What You Said, what You Listed Doesnt Go Out Of The Natural Order.

IamPlato:
seemS You Have Had Issues With Ishi before


Back To What You Said, what You Listed Doesnt Go Out Of The Natural Order.

He has been stalking me since 2013 or so. He has serious issues that urgently need clinical intervention.

I'm back to ignore mode.

IamPlato:
seemS You Have Had Issues With Ishi before


Back To What You Said, what You Listed Doesnt Go Out Of The Natural Order.

I am only speaking the truth. She could have easily proven me wrong on this thread with a lenghty logical comment on morality.


Who decides the natural order?

Some people believe that homosexuality is outside the natural order.


Morality is far more complex than that

JackBizzle:
I am only speaking the truth. She could have easily proven me wrong on this thread with a lenghty logical comment on morality.


Who decides the natural order?

Some people believe that homosexuality is outside the natural order.


Morality is far more complex than that

is Homosexuality Part Of The Natural Order?


Even Nature Is Not Perfect as It Has Errors in Its Continuous Existence and Homosexuality Is An Error In Natural existence

Ishilove:
He has been stalking me since 2013 or so. He has serious issues that urgently need clinical intervention.

I'm back to ignore mode.

2013?

Almost 10 years? Haaa

Maybe You Should Calm Down For Him, He probably Has Something to Tell you

NOwazobia:
freewill is another popular debated topic, but let me leave that for now.
Another part of your argument is that man is neither evil nor bad naturally, rather, the environment corrupted man. But the environment is like an inanimate object that cannot corrupt it self: an object will remain at a state of rest until acted upon by an opposing force. Such opposing force must be a force that has life or behave like one e.g. Animals, wind, human... But only human has the ability to act hyper rational to consciously influence an object for good or bad. My question is this, if environment corrupted man, who corrupted the environment or is the environment inherently evil? Can an environment without life, especially an intelligent one that can make and abort choices be morally depraved; can it be evil?

you never understand my point

IamPlato:
is Homosexuality Part Of The Natural Order?


Even Nature Is Not Perfect as It Has Errors in Its Continuous Existence and Homosexuality Is An Error In Natural existence

There is no such thing as a natural order. Everything that occurs and exists is part of nature.

Survival is the only truth of nature. You adapt or die. Survival of the fittest. Even moralitybis tied to


To a nihilist, life is meaningless- Morality is just an abstract thought used to control or guide human behaviour.

IamPlato:
2013?

Almost 10 years? Haaa

Maybe You Should Calm Down For Him, He probably Has Something to Tell you

Don't believe the nonsense people tell you.

JackBizzle:
There is no such thing as a natural order. Everything that occurs and exists is part of nature.

Survival is the only truth of nature. You adapt or die. Survival of the fittest. Even moralitybis tied to


To a nihilist, life is meaningless- Morality is just an abstract thought used to control or guide human behaviour.

Bro Nature Has Order... Nature Has Rules. If You Break Certain Order nature's most Common Punishment Is Death

IamPlato:
you never understand my point

you are only shifting your point. Your initial point was very clear, what is not clear is your continuous shifting of your point.

IamPlato:
Bro Nature Has Order... Nature Has Rules. If You Break Certain Order nature's most Common Punishment Is Death

Which order? The only order is survival.

JackBizzle:
Which order? The only order is survival.

Survival is a summary of every order

NOwazobia:
you are only shifting your point. Your initial point was very clear, what is not clear is your continuous shifting of your point.

My point didn't shift... My point is man is not born evil just like no man is born a genius...

No man is born evil or good, they are both necessary abstracts to choose from

IamPlato:
My point didn't shift... My point is man is not born evil just like no man is born a genius...

No man is born evil or good, they are both necessary abstracts to choose from

ok