popizaino:


PSG, Barcelona, man United


You should be able to spot the odd one out

The odd one happens to be the one that made Thiago Silva its captain

PSG 1 Man utd 3 with Thiago Silva

Man Utd 1 PSG 3 without Thiago Silva

Barcelona 6 PSG 1 with Thiago Silva

Barcelona 1 PSG 4 without Thiago Silva

patrickmuf:
How many finals has Ac Milan played since he left?

When last did PSG reach a European final? Can we say Silva took them to the final?

The bolded is you trying to turn amala

PSG is one of the richest teams in Europe, what was Leverkusens level in 2002
PSG routinely wins their league, When was the last time Leverkusen won their league

Silva was one of the worst players in that PSG side. and his cluelessness showed in that final where he cost them the trophy

raumdeuter:


PSG is one of the richest teams in Europe, what was Leverkusens level in 2002
PSG routinely wins their league, When was the last time Leverkusen won their league

Silva was one of the worst players in that PSG side. and his cluelessness showed in that final where he cost them the trophy

A team that was top of the Bundesliga going into the last day, was in the final of the DFB Pokal and UCL was not a pushover...The likes of Neuvile, Basturk, Ze Roberto, Lucio and Schneider where top players...

raumdeuter:


The odd one happens to be the one that made Thiago Silva its captain

PSG 1 Man utd 3 with Thiago Silva

Man Utd 1 PSG 3 without Thiago Silva

Barcelona 6 PSG 1 with Thiago Silva

Barcelona 1 PSG 4 without Thiago Silva

Do you want us to be going around in circle?

Maybe you might need to refer to this

popizaino:



No turning amala with Garri.


Bayern Munich with pep guardiola in 3yrs - 0 UCL

Bayern Munich with flicks in a year - 1 UCL

Bayern Munich with heckynes in first year - 0 trophy

Bayern Munich with flicks in first year - sextuple.

patrickmuf:
A team that was top of the Bundesliga going into the last day, was in the final of the DFB Pokal and UCL was not a pushover...The likes of Neuvile, Basturk, Ze Roberto, Lucio and Schneider where top players...

How many league titles did they win? The only reason they made the final was the play of Ballack until they met one of the best teams of all time, the Madrid Galacticos led by Zidane Figo Raul, Carlos

popizaino:


Do you want us to be going around in circle?

Maybe you might need to refer to this

You are showing me coaches who have won the CL. to justify a man that has never won anything? How does that work?

raumdeuter:


How many league titles did they win? The only reason they made the final was the play of Ballack until they met one of the best teams of all time, the Madrid Galacticos led by Zidane Figo Raul, Carlos

Lucio, Ze Roberto and Basturk did nothing abi? Chai!!!

It's now down to a team that has never won a local trophy before...

Raumdeuter considering that Manchester City have won every other local trophy, will you say Pep is a failure for failing to win the UCL?

patrickmuf:
Lucio, Ze Roberto and Basturk did nothing abi? Chai!!!

Even in your Man Utd every player is doing something yet you wont hesitate to name Fernandes as the standout best player

When Ronaldo was winning CL at Madrid do you think Vasquez, Casemiro, Kroos Marcelo etc were not doing anything. Yet CR7 was their best player

patrickmuf:
It now down to a team that has never won a local trophy before...
Ramdeuter considering that Manchester City have won every other local trophy, will you say Pep is a failure for failing to win the UCL?

When you havent won a local league before in your entire history shows how low profile of a club you are

Which team in EPL has NEVER won the league before? Now imagine them making a CL final. That is the equivalent of the feat achieved by 2002 Leverkusen

Ballack had no business taking Leverkusen nor that Germany team to finals.

He is just an unlucky son of a gun and one of the greatest midfielders of his generation.

But if his case can be used to point out the hypocrisy in Raumdeuters UCL or World Cup thesis, I'm all in.

Ibime:
Ballack had no business taking Leverkusen nor that Germany team to finals.

He is just an unlucky son of a gun and one of the greatest midfielders of his generation.

But if his case can be used to point out the hypocrisy in Raumdeuters UCL or World Cup thesis, I'm all in.

Facts are sacred for those old enough to watch football in 2002

Ibime:
Ballack had no business taking Leverkusen nor that Germany team to finals.

He is just an unlucky son of a gun and one of the greatest midfielders of his generation.

But if his case can be used to point out the hypocrisy in Raumdeuters UCL or World Cup thesis, I'm all in.

exactly!!!

This guy no go kill me

raumdeuter:


When you havent won a local league before in your entire history shows how low profile of a club you are

Which team in EPL has NEVER won the league before? Now imagine them making a CL final. That is the equivalent of the feat achieved by 2002 Leverkusen

This should be straightforward

considering that Manchester City have won every other local trophy, will you say Pep is a failure for failing to win the UCL?

Ramires is greater than Kelvin Debruyne.

KDB is a fraud padding stat in a local league and will disappear at the biggest stage.

KDB has no international trophy to show for all the stat he padded in the local league (EPL). While Ramirez DoSantos Nacimento dragged Chelsea en route winning the UCL.

If we want to be mad we will all be mad on this thread.

raumdeuter:


You are showing me coaches who have won the CL. to justify a man that has never won anything? How does that work?

I should ask you cus i'm learning from you oga.......juxtaposing results of a team under different managers and circumstances with that of a player, i should ask you how it is done too

MercylessMercy:


This should be straightforward

considering that Manchester City have won every other local trophy, will you say Pep is a failure for failing to win the UCL?

Man City won local trophies, so they are a success locally and failed in Europe. which one did Leverkusen win?

popizaino:



I should ask you cus i'm learning from you oga.......juxtaposing results of a team under different managers and circumstances with that of a player, i should ask you how it is done too

Pep Flick Juup, Boateng Ramos all CL winners

I guess Thiago Silva is allergic to winning

raumdeuter:


Pep Flick Juup, Boateng Ramos all CL winners

I guess Thiago Silva is allergic to winning

Well,he is among the unfortunate great players not to win the UCL like Ronaldo nazario delima.

popizaino:


Well,he is among the unfortunate great players not to win the UCL like Ronaldo nazario delima.

Ronaldo de lima won the world cup to cover for his CL deficit
What did Thiago Silva win again? Even the only CL final they carried him to he messed it up

raumdeuter:


Ronaldo de lima won the world cup to cover for his CL deficit
What did Thiago Silva win again?

What did ballack win to cover for his UCL deficit again?

raumdeuter:


Facts are sacred for those old enough to watch football in 2002

Does this apply to your buddy airmark

popizaino:



What did ballack win to cover for his UCL deficit again?

He was carried to the CL final

swiz123:


He was carried to the CL final

No ,...i expect something like ballack took Germany to the world cup finals and we rinse and repeat .

popizaino:

What did ballack win to cover for his UCL deficit again?

See below

Ibime:
Ballack had no business taking Leverkusen nor that Germany team to finals.

He is just an unlucky son of a gun and one of the greatest midfielders of his generation.

My case against Bayern and bundesliga is closed


Very unbiased explanation, they are just good and very efficient


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjYMdERYkBU

iamJ:
My case against Bayern and bundesliga is closed


Very unbiased explanation, they are just good and very efficient


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjYMdERYkBU

What s your own opinion on your team buying Werner Pulisic and Harvetz

raumdeuter:


What s your own opinion on your team buying Werner Pulisic and Harvetz

I have accepted the L


You are still firing

iamJ:
I have accepted the L
You are still firing

Okay no wahala, Do you disagree with him?

Ibime:
Ballack had no business taking Leverkusen nor that Germany team to finals.

He is just an unlucky son of a gun and one of the greatest midfielders of his generation.

But if his case can be used to point out the hypocrisy in Raumdeuters UCL or World Cup thesis, I'm all in.

Ballack didn't carry them,
he was just the star player.
That German team had probably the best Gk on the planet then Oliver kahn, strikers like klose, Neuville, bierhoff, amongst others..
Don't forget too that the only top team Germany faced in the knockouts were Brazil which they lost..
Yes they did reached the final but it was Usa, Paraguay, s/ Korea..
Not exactly football powerhouses

kendrick93:
Ballack didn't carry them,
he was just the star player.
That German team had probably the best Gk on the planet then Oliver kahn, strikers like klose, Neuville, bierhoff, amongst others..
Don't forget too that the only top team Germany faced in the knockouts were Brazil which they lost..
Yes they did reached the final but it was Usa, Paraguay, s/ Korea..
Not exactly football powerhouses

Why did Germany play those countries, was it because the other strong team got beaten by these same teams that Germany beat? Korea eliminated Spain and Italy before playing Germany

No one will watch Germany 2002 and be mentioning Neuville and Bierhoff it simply shows someone who went to Wikipedia to glance at names
Its always better to leave all these football talks to those who actually watched these games
Is it Neuville a striker who had 1 goal the entire competition or Bierhoff that played a sum total of 76mins in the entire tournament of over 630mins is now the key striker helping Germany

Ballack missed the final due to a suspension
Semi final Ballack lone goal winner
Quarter final Ballack lone goal winner