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rvp2018:
You choose communism and went bankrupt for record 17 times. You were bankrupt by 1962. And still today.

Kenya is capitalism. Kenyattas own like thousands of acres in Nairobi.

It doesn't mean we will lack land. We build VERTICALLY. That is why Nairobi has lots of high rises.

no diversions kiddo

Your vertical structures are mostly for short rentals.

they mostly remain empty.

while everyone lives in the slum

Huge? Nairobi upper middle class and high rise estate occupy nearly HALF NAIROBI landmass. It coz of huge land holding per individuals.

The apartments in eastland then carry on 2/3 of Nairobi. That small area of 10Kms square is parked with apartments.

That is how MODERN cities are.

Just30:
WHile we post a community as huge as East Legon, that has many estates in it, Rvp can only post an estate with barely 7000 people in it.

rvp2018:
Old Muthaiga - check the size of plots - and check the SQ - bigger than East Legon houses squeezed in 1/8 of an acre.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IerrbiSMUhs

Who is talking about land size here?
We are talking about the buildings and communities OR?

It's not easy to find empty land in Accra.
In Accra some people build on half plots, all they want is * a beautiful apartment*.

Even the Cantonment, Ridge areas etc that used to do big land estate housing don't do that anymore. Shine your eyes.

Apartments in Kenya have their standards - from upper middle class to lower middle class - to pipelines. Some apartments in Nairobi cost anything from 0.5M dollars.

And they are not temporary. People buy units there. It's people houses. Majority of course by landlords.

Just30:


no diversions kiddo

Your vertical structures are mostly for short rentals.

they mostly remain empty.

while everyone lives in the slum

I am helping you understand why East Legon is like Nairobi Eastland - Lower Middle class. We will get there soon. It good that you've understood most of houses in East Legon are SQs for Nairobi rich.

vankelvin:
Who is talking about land size here?
We are talking about the buildings and communities OR?

It's not easy to find empty land in Accra.
In Accra some people build on half plots, all they want is * a beautiful apartment*.

Even the Cantonment, Ridge areas etc that used to do big land estate housing don't do that anymore. Shine your eyes.

Just30:
WHile we post a community as huge as East Legon, that has many estates in it, Rvp can only post an estate with barely 7000 people in it.

The guy has a big problem oo.

He thinks East Legon is an Estate in Accra meanwhile the place is a huge community.

Nairobi Middle class - mostly town houses and high class apartments - they are still in good side of Nairobi - these are KIlimanis, Kileleshwas, Westland, Parklands.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHTGESTFLYU

Just30:


Rants

Even the rich in Kenya live is miserable properties.

In Nairobi, those mess of a property in Runda with shity interior designs and stuffs sitting on acres of land are village properties in Ghana.

Giving one acre for one person to live on while the remaining 4 million people live on 28 acres of land is miserable.

Here, we sell lands to make sure that whether rich or poor, you can at least afford to own 1/8 or 1/4th an acre to build your own mansion and live comfortably.

Again, this is one of many reasons why Ghanaians have higher standards of living and Quality of Living than kenyans

Until kenya fix it housing crisis for Kenyans to afford owning homes, the quality of living of kenyans will remain low.

Can you stop abusing the world mansion to sound sophisticated it's annoying. Don't call a bungalow or a maisonette a mansion it reaks of a village mentality.

Now welcome to BEST part of GHANA - ACCRA - East Legon -

Nairobi East-side.

Plot strictly 1/8 and below. Townhouses - and mostly huge highrises.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzhMtGkrEdM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sDvFOmus8o

I am not alone . Very annonying for them to use word posh on 1/8 ugly townhouses.

gallivant:
Can you stop abusing the world mansion to sound sophisticated it's annoying. Don't call a bungalow or a maisonette a mansion it reaks of a village mentality.

rvp2018:
Rundas are upper middle class - plot size of 1/2 acre and above. Still huge plot. And of course no apartment or tall building allowed; so you;ll have your privacy. These are new money folks.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvGI4CGUkP0

You are confuse, we are talking about properties/communities not Land size.

Check out these properties and tell me if they occupy full plots or half plots?

To get a half plot in Accra is not easy talkless full plots. As for big plot estates I give it to Kenya, you guys have more lands for such estates in Nairobi not in Accra-Ghana.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ihHmvaeeDM&t=274s

vankelvin:
Who is talking about land size here?
We are talking about the buildings and communities OR?

It's not easy to find empty land in Accra.
In Accra some people build on half plots, all they want is * a beautiful apartment*.

Even the Cantonment, Ridge areas etc that used to do big land estate housing don't do that anymore. Shine your eyes.

That's how you get integrated slums because everyone seems entitled to built a shack wherever they want.

These kind of houses you can find in Nairobi Eastland. ZONING is everything in Nairobi. There is space for everything. Rich people live in huge almost rural like land. They have powerful residential association. You cannot erect anything before very expensive approval process. You cannot get public transport. This why poor people erect illegal slums near them...in river valleys..so they can go hussle there.

vankelvin:
You are confuse, we are talking about properties/communities not Land size.

Check out these properties and tell me if they occupy full plots or half plots?

To get a half plot in Accra is not easy talkless full plots. As for big plot estates I give it to Kenya, you guys have more lands for such estates in Nairobi not in Accra-Ghana.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ihHmvaeeDM&t=274s

rvp2018:
Huge? Nairobi upper middle class and high rise estate occupy nearly HALF NAIROBI landmass. It coz of huge land holding per individuals.

The apartments in eastland then carry on 2/3 of Nairobi. That small area of 10Kms square is parked with apartments.

That is how MODERN cities are.

Let me laugh at you

rvp2018:
Apartments in Kenya have their standards - from upper middle class to lower middle class - to pipelines. Some apartments in Nairobi cost anything from 0.5M dollars.

And they are not temporary. People buy units there. It's people houses. Majority of course by landlords.

Yeah we know the standards

Its is extremely low, rusty and rotting away.

The only nices apartments in Nairobi are usually for short stay rentals, because 99% of kenyans cant afford it.

Dont mind him

vankelvin:
The guy has a big problem oo.

He thinks East Legon is an Estate in Accra meanwhile the place is a huge community.

Combine Kilimani, kileleshwas, westland, parklands, muthiaga and Runda and you will have the size of East Legon.

rvp2018:
Nairobi Middle class - mostly town houses and high class apartments - they are still in good side of Nairobi - these are KIlimanis, Kileleshwas, Westland, Parklands.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHTGESTFLYU

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gallivant:
Can you stop abusing the world mansion to sound sophisticated it's annoying. Don't call a bungalow or a maisonette a mansion it reaks of a village mentality.

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Just30:
Combine Kilimani, kileleshwas, westland, parklands, muthiaga and Runda and you will have the size of East Legon.

You lost your head a long time ago.

East Legon has a Total area of 4.95 km². That is as small as kibera.
Westland const - which is not inclusive of kilimani/kilelewshwa in that list is 97 SQKm. That is 20 times bigger.

Just30:
Combine Kilimani, kileleshwas, westland, parklands, muthiaga and Runda and you will have the size of East Legon.

gallivant:
That's how you get integrated slums because everyone seems entitled to built a shack wherever they want.

It's because our land tenure system is different from what you have in Kenya.

Chiefs and families owns most of our lands unlike Kenya where the Kenyatta family owns most of your lands.

The Chief or the families can decide to sell their lands to anyone.

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gallivant:
You lost your head a long time ago.

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vankelvin:
It's because our land tenure system is different from what you have in Kenya.

Chiefs and families owns most of our lands unlike Kenya where the Kenyatta family owns most of your lands.

The Chief or the families can decide to sell their lands to anyone.

You are making excuses for lack of planning and an integrated slumpolis.

Kenya is mostly freehold; a few leasehold; and community land in some parts of undeveloped kenya.
Ghana is mostly community land.

Kenya freehold works because whoever has the title deed is the absolute and conclusive owner. There is no chief or whoever to consult.

vankelvin:
It's because our land tenure system is different from what you have in Kenya.

Chiefs and families owns most of our lands unlike Kenya where the Kenyatta family owns most of your lands.

The Chief or the families can decide to sell their lands to anyone.

rvp2018:
East Legon has a Total area of 4.95 km². That is as small as kibera.
Westland const - which is not inclusive of kilimani/kilelewshwa in that list is 97 SQKm. That is 20 times bigger.

East Legon Measure 32 square kilometres in size.

Next time dont depend on outdated wiki info.

There are simple map tools to use

Kilimani/kileleshwas,westland, muthiaga is 28 square kilometers in size.

You've ran away with your ugly 1/8 town houses - and apartment - boy just shut up. Even South African will shut up in apartments when it come to Nairobi. Egypt Cairo yes.

Just30:
Yeah we know the standards

Its is extremely low, rusty and rotting away.

The only nices apartments in Nairobi are usually for short stay rentals, because 99% of kenyans cant afford it.

rvp2018:
East Legon has a Total area of 4.95 km². That is as small as kibera.
Westland const - which is not inclusive of kilimani/kilelewshwa in that list is 97 SQKm. That is 20 times bigger.

That's the size of East Legon excluding
--East Legon Hills
--West Legon
--North Legon etc

The usual nonsense from the resident madman.

Just30:
East Legon Measure 32 square kilometres in size.

Next time dont depend on outdated wiki info.

There are simple map tools to use

Kilimani/kileleshwas,westland, muthiaga is 28 square kilometers in size.

LOL - Now we are including East Legon hill - and comparing it with WORLD CLASS ESTATES. We had accepted East Legon for Size Argument sake. Turn out to be mere 2 by 2...5kms square..size of Kibera slum.

vankelvin:
That's the size of East Legon excluding
--East Legon Hills
--West Legon
--North Legon etc

rvp2018:
You've ran away with your ugly 1/8 town houses - and apartment - boy just shut up. Even South African will shut up in apartments when it come to Nairobi. Egypt Cairo yes.

another diversion

Say no to low standard living in Kenya and you might be able to build beautifully well-developed communities like Ghana has and your standard of living and quality of life will improve

rvp2018:
The usual nonsense from the resident madman.

Just say you dont know what I'm talking about, so i can educate you

crazy kid

gallivant:
You are making excuses for lack of planning and an integrated slumpolis.

Planning is the work of the State(Assembly) not the Chiefs and the Families that own the lands, OR?

Note, the big slums we have in Accra are mostly lands that were taking from the Chiefs by the State and were not developed on time.