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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by pamcode(m): 5:20pm On Feb 21, 2021
Almajirihunter:


Nadal for me, if Novak reaches same slams with them then definitely him, guy’s broken almost all records just the GS records remaining now.
Yeah. Djokovic has the records on his side. Two career grand slams I think. I think he would surpass.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by pamcode(m): 5:26pm On Feb 21, 2021
afrodoc2:


It is actually 13 Roland Garros for Nadal. Federer is my G.O.A.T too for the beauty of his game and for the balance in his titles. He has very good records in 3 of the 4 slams (5 or more wins in 3 of the 4 slams) unlike Nadal and to a lesser extent Nole who spammed us with just 1 slam.
Damn 13 out of 20! Roland was the no 1 boogey ground for Federer no thanks to Nadal. He lost four times in the final to him. Kudos to Nadal he was more than a rival.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Almajirihunter(m): 5:27pm On Feb 21, 2021
afrodoc2:


It is actually 13 Roland Garros for Nadal. Federer is my G.O.A.T too for the beauty of his game and for the balance in his titles. He has very good records in 3 of the 4 slams (5 or more wins in 3 of the 4 slams) unlike Nadal and to a lesser extent Nole who spammed us with just 1 slam.

Fed had 8 Wimbledon titles which is his highest and Novak just won his 9th AO, you’re right about that though.....Nadals collection is not as impressive
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 5:30pm On Feb 21, 2021
Thiago Silva: "I made a bad mistake in my first game at Chelsea, something you normally don't expect from me. After that day, I started analysing our opponents' forwards, how they press and how I can be faster than them."

{Champions League Magazine}

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by NinjaMetahuman: 5:38pm On Feb 21, 2021
see pass from kdb ffs

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 5:44pm On Feb 21, 2021
Dem no even waste time grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibeme: 9:32pm On Feb 21, 2021
A near 36 year old Fernandinho plugged in seamlessly and ran the show for City today but one bitter hater called Melvyn forgot to mention me.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 9:41pm On Feb 21, 2021
raumdeuter:
So we don't forget

PSG 1 Man utd 3 with Thiago Silva

Man Utd 1 PSG 3 without Thiago Silva

Barcelona 6 PSG 1 with Thiago Silva

Barcelona 1 PSG 4 without Thiago Silva
Isn't he the same Thiago Silva you praise in a bid to maligne Luiz for his role in Germany's demolition of Brazil? What has changed?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 9:43pm On Feb 21, 2021
Ibeme:
A near 36 year old Fernandinho plugged in seamlessly and ran the show for City today but one bitter hater called Melvyn forgot to mention me.
Mention you for what exactly?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Sulele04(m): 10:32pm On Feb 21, 2021
airmark has ruined Chelsea football club embarassed embarassed embarassed tongue cry.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 12:03am On Feb 22, 2021

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 12:10am On Feb 22, 2021
popizaino:

Ancelloti's second season football was a complete opposite of what his first season was and it reflected in our season results,with notable loses against the traditional top sides. A good performance without results won't get any manager sacked under abrahamovic, the major issue with manager getting sacked here and there is bad performance coupled with bad results.

We still finished second which is better than Peps first season and the nigga was still sacked in the tunnel.

Reason for the decline in the quality of football was the board replacing Ballack and Deco with Ramires. Purely board decision to sign Ramires who was an Emenalo recommendation to the board. Even Belletti who Ancelotti sometimes played in midfield and could have been used to keep the beautiful football going left.

You replace those three in your midfield with Ramires and still expect to play beautiful football? Like I told you, Roman knows absolutely nothing about football, he cannot even jog 5.

Pep will be sacked from that first Man City season performance, and if he even survives, he will be given Bakayoko and Ramires the next season and told to play tikitaka with it. It's like you don't know that Russians and American lawyers who know nothing about football run our club down to the choice of player, with unrealistic expectations from the types of players they buy.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibeme: 12:19am On Feb 22, 2021
Melvyn11:

Mention you for what exactly?

Next time Fernandinho steps in and nothing spoil, mention me, so we know that City winning has nothing to do with Rodri.

But don't mention me to give Rodri credit for team performance until he match the 98 and 100 points Fernandinho took them to.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 12:20am On Feb 22, 2021
Ibeme:


Next time Fernandinho steps in and nothing spoil, mention me, so we know that City winning has nothing to do with Rodri.

But don't mention me to give Rodri credit for team performance until he match the 98 and 100 points Fernandinho took them to.
And what's my business with Fernadinho?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 3:37am On Feb 22, 2021
popizaino:



Maybe,by virtue of were you live,you might have access to deeper informations to the club and abrahamovic which i dont,but I will base my comments on what I read about him,........which is a man who wants to win in style.Ancelloti's second season football was a complete opposite of what his first season was and it reflected in our season results,with notable loses against the traditional top sides.A good performance without results won't get any manager sacked under abrahamovic, the major issue with manager getting sacked here and there is bad performance coupled with bad results.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/709601-5-reasons-why-roman-abramovich-sacked-carlo-ancelotti
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:17am On Feb 22, 2021
patrickmuf:
Isn't he the same Thiago Silva you praise in a bid to maligne Luiz for his role in Germany's demolition of Brazil? What has changed?

That someone is better than David Luiz does not mean he is a great defender. Even you are better than David Luiz and doesnt make you a defensive great
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 8:37am On Feb 22, 2021
airmark:


He has all you could think of in a great defender.

Though he may be getting old, at present he is still better than most of all those hyped as the best CBs in the world.

I can only rate Dias a lil bit above him in Epl and it's because he is faster as he is obviously younger.

You see ehn, when I asked "what makes Thiago Silva a great ", I was really curious to know those great feats he's achieved over the years Manning the defensive lines of various clubs and countries. I mean those arguments that can be made for him in the next 3 to 4 years when he's fully retired and people start talking about the great defenders that played in first 20 years of the 2000's . Yes Thiago Silva is better than them David Luiz and co...... but that greatness u talked about I’m yet to see it.

Maybe u should’ve called Thiago Silva a good defender at best , but the way u used the word “Great “ loosely there ehn , e get as e be.

He won’t make the top 5 defenders of this first 20 years of the 2000’s that I watched and can recall how good the players who played in it were , so once again I am interested in what makes Thiago Silva aside from the fact that he’s like Chelsea’s beat defender since dem John Terry retired .

Cc: Patrickmuf
Popizaino

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 10:08am On Feb 22, 2021
BlueRayDick:


You see ehn, when I asked "what makes Thiago Silva a great ", I was really curious to know those great feats he's achieved over the years Manning the defensive lines of various clubs and countries. I mean those arguments that can be made for him in the next 3 to 4 years when he's fully retired and people start talking about the great defenders that played in first 20 years of the 2000's . Yes Thiago Silva is better than them David Luiz and co...... but that greatness u talked about I’m yet to see it.

Maybe u should’ve called Thiago Silva a good defender at best , but the way u used the word “Great “ loosely there ehn , e get as e be.

He won’t make the top 5 defenders of this first 20 years of the 2000’s that I watched and can recall how good the players who played in it were , so once again I am interested in what makes Thiago Silva aside from the fact that he’s like Chelsea’s beat defender since dem John Terry retired .

Cc: Patrickmuf
Popizaino

What are the great feats a CB must achieve for him to be referred to as a great CB in your books?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 10:14am On Feb 22, 2021
Amoto94:
Greatihex, Ibime, Roland 17 this happened in Oba, a man lost six children to an attack by suspected IPOB members. Greatihex I hope you're happy with this development right?


https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/443855-exclusive-six-children-killed-in-attack-on-anambra-community.html

Sir, please don't mention me with rubbish news. Thanks.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 10:40am On Feb 22, 2021
BlueRayDick:


You see ehn, when I asked "what makes Thiago Silva a great ", I was really curious to know those great feats he's achieved over the years Manning the defensive lines of various clubs and countries. I mean those arguments that can be made for him in the next 3 to 4 years when he's fully retired and people start talking about the great defenders that played in first 20 years of the 2000's . Yes Thiago Silva is better than them David Luiz and co...... but that greatness u talked about I’m yet to see it.

Maybe u should’ve called Thiago Silva a good defender at best , but the way u used the word “Great “ loosely there ehn , e get as e be.

He won’t make the top 5 defenders of this first 20 years of the 2000’s that I watched and can recall how good the players who played in it were , so once again I am interested in what makes Thiago Silva aside from the fact that he’s like Chelsea’s beat defender since dem John Terry retired .

Cc: Patrickmuf
Popizaino
Individually, he has been in fifa and Uefa pro 11 trice. Is it because he do not have ucl and wc (which are team effort) that make u feel he is not a great defender. Or you want to tell me if sylva was to play for either Barca or Madrid or Bayern he will not bench one of the CB there. Since talent wise he is on par or even above the likes of Ramos, Varane, Pique, masquerano, terry, Vidic, etc, it is safe to call him great. These are the things fifa check too.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 11:31am On Feb 22, 2021
Claude Makelele on N’Golo Kante

“Some players are meant to be superstars, but others – like N’Golo and myself – must be happy making other people look good.”

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 12:36pm On Feb 22, 2021
Amoto94:
Claude Makelele on N’Golo Kante

“Some players are meant to be superstars, but others – like N’Golo and myself – must be happy making other people look good.”

Claude Makelele. I respect that guy too much. The way he played as a CDM between 2000 and around 2006 should be taught at post-grad level.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 1:03pm On Feb 22, 2021
airmark:


What are the great feats a CB must achieve for him to be referred to as a great CB in your books?

Well, for me I believe that aside from a CB being very good at reading the ball, very good in the air, being a good leader at the backline , making timely interceptions etc....such player must enjoy successful years with his team(either at the national level or club level by winning a major title ) and such success must be directly attributable to his footballing prowess. It is only then I consider such player as ''great"

I will gladly agree he is a good player for PSG particularly in the era in which they've dominated their domestic league with the arrival of their Qatari owners in 2011, but he isn't great defender you call him to be. That guy was always in the defense line when they get dumped out of Champions league year-in year-out.

Like I said earlier, when great defenders of this era will be mentioned, Thiago's named will likely be missing.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by DeadPresidents: 1:15pm On Feb 22, 2021
Where is Nathan Ake?

You mean Pep can buy a defender for 40m and then send him to Timbuktu?

It is alrighty
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 1:26pm On Feb 22, 2021
BlueRayDick:


Well, for me[b] I believe that aside from a CB being very good at reading the ball, very good in the air, being a good leader at the backline , making timely interceptions etc....such player must enjoy successful years with his team(either at the national level or club level by winning a major title ) and such success must be directly attributable to his footballing prowess.[/b] It is only then I consider such player as ''great"

I will gladly agree he is a good player for PSG particularly in the era in which they've dominated their domestic league with the arrival of their Qatari owners in 2011, but he isn't great defender you call him to be. That guy was always in the defense line when they get dumped out of Champions league year-in year-out.

Like I said earlier, when great defenders of this era will be mentioned, Thiago's named will likely be missing.

My brother, Thiago Silva won Copa America and Confederation's cup with Brazil and also was in the team of the tournament in both competitions. So i don't know what you are talking about.

Oh, left to you, Nedved, Weah, Ibrahimovic were not great players because they didn't win UCL for their clubs and World cup for their countries, right?.

You rate a player based on his individual brilliance, not only by winning UCL and World cup. Silva was in Fifa world best 11 thrice, Uefa team of the year thrice. He was not there consistently because he came from Brazil but for his top class performances which he was consistent with.

If you like win World cup 7 times, if you are not exceptional in the competitions FIFA will only hand you gold medals, ask you to go home like Boathand while they honour those that are exceptional individually.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 2:05pm On Feb 22, 2021
Amoto94:
Thiago Silva: "I made a bad mistake in my first game at Chelsea, something you normally don't expect from me. After that day, I started analysing our opponents' forwards, how they press and how I can be faster than them."

{Champions League Magazine}

I hope our CBs are learning from this top professional defender.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 2:46pm On Feb 22, 2021
airmark:


My brother, Thiago Silva won Copa America and Confederation's cup with Brazil and also was in the team of the tournament in both competitions. So i don't know what you are talking about.

Oh, left to you, Nedved, Weah, Ibrahimovic were not great players because they didn't win UCL for their clubs and World cup for their countries, right?.

You rate a player based on his individual brilliance, not only by winning UCL and World cup. Silva was in Fifa world best 11 thrice, Uefa team of the year thrice. He was not there consistently because he came from Brazil but for his top class performances which he was consistent with.

If you like win World cup 7 times, if you are not exceptional in the competitions FIFA will only hand you gold medals, ask you to go home like Boathand while they honour those that are exceptional individually.

The main question is "If top 5 defenders that played across top leagues in Europe during this era are being discussed in the future, will Thiago be in the conversation?"

I'm not a fan of Boateng and his comical defending na.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 2:46pm On Feb 22, 2021
popizaino:



Abrahamovic loves good beautiful football,that which pep guardiola can give him more than....so tell me why he would sack someone who gives him what he wants ?
Good football for Roman is success. There is no way pep will remain a Chelsea manager till now if he were at Chelsea after all that net spend and Lyon is still knocking him out. No type of possession football will save that manager; unless, Roman changes one day. But with the Roman we have seen over the year, pep would have been sacked since.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 3:05pm On Feb 22, 2021
afrodoc2:


Claude Makelele. I respect that guy too much. The way he played as a CDM between 2000 and around 2006 should be taught at post-grad level.
The defensive solidity achieved by the sides he played in speaks volume of his brilliance, when he left those teams experienced steep decline because the defensive cover he provides was no longer there.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 3:08pm On Feb 22, 2021
Werner: "The fact things didn’t go well for me had nothing to do with the manager [Lampard]. I got off to a flying start. He’s a huge personality, I have a lot of respect for him & I’m grateful to him for bringing me to Chelsea. Under him I got to know the English way of playing"
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 3:11pm On Feb 22, 2021
"We decided to speak to Callum in front of the whole group not alone. For us it was not a big thing. I know it can be sometimes. Still I did it and we had the only reaction we wanted he went back to a good mood and trained well. This is the lesson for us to learn."

- Tuchel
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 3:15pm On Feb 22, 2021
BlueRayDick:


The main question is "If top 5 defenders that played across top leagues in Europe during this era are being discussed in the future, will Thiago be in the conversation?"

I'm not a fan of Boateng and his comical defending na.


Based on your yardstick for tagging a CB, great, Silva is a great CB. That's the reason for this convo anyway, any other subsequent scope you are introducing is by the side and not relevant for now.

Thiago silva is a great CB. cool

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