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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 4:58pm On Feb 22, 2021
Theories compared to 80% community land ownership smiley Anybod can spin nonsense but the facts are stubborn; You remain a communist backwater.
vaxx:
Your country is largely rural because you are villagers, the few city land that are available are shared by Persia traders and your kleptocrazy government who owns about 70 percent of your land and live the unproductive one for you villagers to drabble on.


Your rural living lifestyles is associated with your high unemployment.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Appisko: 4:59pm On Feb 22, 2021
rvp2018:
Theories compared to 80% community land ownership smiley Anybod can spin nonsense but the facts are stubborn; You remain a communist backwater.
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx:
rvp2018:
Theories compared to 80% community land ownership smiley Anybod can spin nonsense but the facts are stubborn; You remain a communist backwater.
Your country remain a birth right of kenyatta and moi family forever. This stupidity can't happen in Ghana. we don't run klepotocracy here.

when Ghana was fully democratized, you were still a British puppet.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 5:03pm On Feb 22, 2021
leQubit:
Why would chiefs own 40% of land..lemme guess you guys are still stuck in mid-ages eh cheesy
Because they are the original custodians of lands and this position has been recognized by every constitution in Ghana since 1880.

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Our constitution protects those rights and will not surreptitiously take over the land of the people and hand them over to 2 families.

That is thievery and it is colonial in nature.
The queen of England took over all Kenyan lands as hers and when she was leaving, greedy idiots* like the kenyatta and the Moi's stole it all to make it their own.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 5:05pm On Feb 22, 2021
Just30:
Because they are the original custodians of lands and this position has been recognized by every constitution in Ghana since 1880.

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Our constitution protects those rights and will not surreptitiously take over the land of the people and hand them over to 2 families.

That is thievery and it is colonial in nature.
The queen of England took over all Kenyan lands as hers and when she was leaving, greedy idiots* like the kenyatta and the Moi's stole it all to make it their own.
The dude is asking a backward question, in United kingdom which is regarded as one of the developed country runs a similar system . the lands , oceans and the fishes in them are owned by the queen .
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 5:08pm On Feb 22, 2021
leQubit:
he repeating coz its crazy for village chiefs to control masses through land...
Naa it's not crazy

Before the colonialists came to Ghana, we already had a highly democratic government structure. And we have maintained this structure since 1880 when Great Britain wanted to take over all our lands for the queen.



It is highly crazy for just 2 families to own all the lands in Kenya. grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 5:14pm On Feb 22, 2021
vaxx:
The dude is asking a backward question, in United kingdom which is regarded as one of the developed country runs a similar system . the lands , oceans and the fishes in them are owned by the queen .
he has no idea grin

Anyway, I dont blame them.

Before colonialism, there was no government structure anywhere in their country.

Kenyans were highly nomadic, making it easy for any colonial power to own them and own all their lands grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 5:16pm On Feb 22, 2021
Just30:
he has no idea grin

Anyway, I dont blame them.

Before colonialism, there was no government structure anyway in their country.
They were highly nomadic, making it easy for any colonial power to onw them and own all their lands grin
They were actually first colonized indirectly by the Arabs before the British..... most of their city state lands are mostly for the Persia traders.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 5:17pm On Feb 22, 2021
vaxx:
They were actually first colonized by the Arabs before the British..... most of their city state lands are mostly for the Persia traders.
That is why kenyans dont own lands

By the time they became civilised and realised they needed lands, The Arabs and Brits where owning everything.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 5:17pm On Feb 22, 2021
Just30:
That is why kenyans dont own lands
except kenyatta and moi who are the two single largest landlord
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 5:19pm On Feb 22, 2021
vaxx:
except kenyatta and moi who are the two single largest landlord
grin grin

Kenyans didnt receive civilisation early
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Appisko: 5:23pm On Feb 22, 2021
Just30:
grin grin

Kenyans didnt receive civilisation early
Hahahahaha they are JJC in civilisation grin grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 5:25pm On Feb 22, 2021
leQubit:
@Tylann

Dude I keep on telling you both parties (GOP an Dems ) are wicked an i don't support either..If you look closely enough you might realize that the system is just one but having two faces...go ask Epstein...oh sorry guy is dead
But you are dems supporter with they all hypocrisy
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 5:27pm On Feb 22, 2021
Appisko:
Hahahahaha they are JJC in civilisation grin grin grin
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When Ghanaian were busy going to court defending Ghanaian lands against the queen of England attempt to make it all her property in 1887, kenyans were still roaming under the sun naked grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 5:28pm On Feb 22, 2021
vaxx:
except kenyatta and moi who are the two single largest landlord
The largest land owner in Kenya is Kenyatta with 500000 acres
The whole of northern and eastern Kenya is still empty
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 5:31pm On Feb 22, 2021
tylann:
The largest land owner in Kenya is Kenyatta with 500000 acres
The whole of northern and eastern Kenya is still empty
You only echoed my point . and you are right kenyatta is the largest landlord, moi came shortly on the table.

No land grabbing in northern Kenya because it is unproductive to do so.


there is no single largest landlord in Ghana except the Ghanaian themselves.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Appisko: 5:31pm On Feb 22, 2021
Just30:
grin grin


When Ghanaian were busy going to court defending Ghanaian lands against the queen of England attempt to make it all her property in 1887, kenyans were still roaming under the sun naked grin
Lol and getting themselves drunk and high with chaanga and cow blood grin grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Wizzzzmike: 5:33pm On Feb 22, 2021
leQubit:
Why would chiefs own 40% of land..lemme guess you guys are still stuck in mid-ages eh cheesy
You are a fool. Chieftaincy exist before government were formed.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vankelvin: 5:46pm On Feb 22, 2021
Wizzzzmike:
You are a fool. Chieftaincy exist before government were formed.
These Kenyans are special human breed.
They are still not fully enlightened and civilized.

It seems they had no system of governance before the Brits came to colonize them.

In Ghana, our fore-fathers had a solid Chieftaincy system of governance long before the whites set foot on our land. Our Chiefs and families owned lands in Ghana long before we started practicing democracy so Government does not interfere in land acquisitions.

Who in his/her right senses glorify Kenyatta-Moi for owning the biggest land as suppose to Ghana's Land ownership system? shocked shocked funny grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 5:53pm On Feb 22, 2021
Appisko:
Lol and getting themselves drunk and high with chaanga and cow blood grin grin grin
grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Appisko: 5:54pm On Feb 22, 2021
In the wild in Kenya, there are less than 100 Mountain Bongos left. The red, white-striped forest antelopes are near extinction because of hunting, rinderpest and poaching.
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And this guys would come here yabiing they don't do poaching grin grin

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 6:10pm On Feb 22, 2021
Appisko:
In the wild in Kenya, there are less than 100 Mountain Bongos left. The red, white-striped forest antelopes are near extinction because of hunting, rinderpest and poaching.
grin grin grin

And this guys would come here yabiing they don't do poaching grin grin
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As silly as they are, they raise arguments they will never win grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Appisko: 6:19pm On Feb 22, 2021
Just30:
grin grin

As silly as they are, they raise arguments they will never win grin
Hahahahaha lol grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 6:25pm On Feb 22, 2021
rvp2018:
Theories compared to 80% community land ownership smiley Anybod can spin nonsense but the facts are stubborn; You remain a communist backwater.
which community land ownership ?

Only 7% of kenyans own land
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Appisko: 6:32pm On Feb 22, 2021
Just30:
which community land ownership ?

Only 7% of kenyans own land
Lol that dude is hilarious he conjure figures out of thin air
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 6:37pm On Feb 22, 2021
Right or wrong its communism when most land in a country is communal owned.Capitalism like Kenya mean land can be sold or bought on free market. Kenyatta and Moi bought white highlands from departing colonial owners. White had taken 2m hectares of mostly maasai communal land and when they left it was sold to whoever could buy.That is capitalism.Today if you have enough money you can buy as much land as you want in Kenya because it's just a commodity like any other..you don't need a committee or community leaders or the king to approve .You just need to see the title deed .Kenya started from communal land ownership but in 1960s the land was privatized, titled and registered to individual owners except a few.Those few the last 5yrs we issued 5m title deed.This help unlock a lot of value in land because that land can be sold or used as bank security for real cheap loans..but community owned land is just North Korea communism..nothing will thrive...you need to consult stool council to farm..its just Tanzania where the village council owns the land. ..although like Ghana you really cannot own but lease the land for 50 or 90yrs.Kenya title is freehold and leasehold for foreigner..freehold means you own it till eternity .kenya has thrived compared to many mineral rich countries by adopting capitalism starting from land ownership. Ghana should really overthrow their traditional feudal land ownership, privatize the farms and issues every Ghanaian almost with land and a title deed for it.Land is not something to be sentimental about..it should be a resource that can be traded
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 6:48pm On Feb 22, 2021
Appisko:
Lol that dude is hilarious he conjure figures out of thin air
his ego wont let him keep quiet
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 6:52pm On Feb 22, 2021
Just30:
which community land ownership ?

Only 7% of kenyans own land
Nearly every Kenyan own land.Unlike Ghanaian who get buried in cemeteries..Kenyans get buried in their homes..in their land.In fact I doubt if there are Kenyans who are completely landless.Gov use to find such people and give them land.People who stay in urban slums all have rural farm land. They die the bodies are transported and buried at home.The cemeteries in Kenya are few, in big towns and mostly for muslim.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vankelvin: 7:00pm On Feb 22, 2021
Just30:
grin grin

As silly as they are, they raise arguments they will never win grin
grin grin grin angry

Stop it, I don't want to laugh grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vankelvin: 7:02pm On Feb 22, 2021
Just30:
his ego wont let him keep quiet
His empty ego you.mean? cool grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vankelvin: 7:06pm On Feb 22, 2021
rvp20182:
Nearly every Kenyan own land.Unlike Ghanaian who get buried in cemeteries..Kenyans get buried in their homes..in their land.In fact I doubt if there are Kenyans who are completely landless.Gov use to find such people and give them land.People who stay in urban slums all have rural farm land. They die the bodies are transported and buried at home.The cemeteries in Kenya are few, in big towns and mostly for muslim.
Omo angry grin grin, I give up.

Now the debate is about where Ghanaians bury the dead? grin grin grin

To him, burying the dead in the house is better than burying the dead in a cemetery.
I cannot can grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 7:12pm On Feb 22, 2021
vankelvin:
Omo angry grin grin, I give up.

Now the debate is about where Ghanaians bury the dead? grin grin grin

To him, burying the dead in the house is better than burying the dead in a cemetery.
I cannot can grin grin
Yes because every Kenyan has freehold title to their land for eternity we can keep our love ones for eternity. Now Ghana..community own 80% of all land..both rural and urban..20% owned by gov..private land is zero.Dont wonder why despite all the gold all the last 100yrs you're poor..accra look like Juba or Niamey .Weak property rights. Who will invest in communal land..when stool council can wake up and allocate you land to someone else

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