₦airaland Forum

sarrki:
It’s never a dispute

Wyry:
Nigerian girls are useless.

Amotolongbo:
These strangers coming to live in our land should not have been allowed to have a secluded settlement at all, let alone having their own ruler.
This their grouping together has given them the chance to successfully unite and rebel against the host

humanity7:
That's how it's supposed to be, I don't even support having a separate traditional ruler for a certain ethnic group in another man's land

composure:
That's why I like my Calabar,,,
Who will come.and be dragging spot with the great obong of Calabar.
No one, I repeat,,, no one.

CobraAnambra:
I have always maintained that all these strange titles( Seriki fulani, Sarkin hausa, Ezendigbo, Oba Yoruba ) in another man's region is arrant nonsense.
Everyone must submit to the local/native authorities as constituted by the community.
The regional system was the best practiced so far, there was no culture clash or insubordination.
Western Nigeria, Midwestern Nigeria, Eastern Nigeria & Northern Nigeria. As the names imply, you go into the region with utmost respect for both local and regional authorities. Unfortunately, the tag "One Nigeria" has bastardized our respective heritage and culture value under a unitary constitution in a false federalism.

-cobra

Awoleesu:
Exactly!
Having enclaves within a supposed free community is the launching pad for criminality! This is the bane of developing nations...

Immigrants and citizens alike live in areas mapped as 'Residential' in developed countries for a reason...

Sterope:
I don't understand you. In developed countries, not all immigrants and citizens live alike in similar areas, you are more likely to find people with strong social and cultural ties living together separate from the rest of the 'community. There are Chinatowns for a reason. There are places where you will find more Mexicans; Pakistanis, Jamaicans.

Jolomenas:
We have sarkin yarbawa(oba of yoruba) in our lands too.
What are you saying??

themosthigh:
Why are yorubas and Igbos so scared of the Fulanis? These guys are not even thinking of anything like conquest. The geographical limits of the Caliphate is Illorin where the yorubas there have accepted Fulani.

Yorubas are not and have never been compared to the fulanis in military might. At the height of the Oyo empire which was the greatest empire in the history of yorubas, the Nupes who are a small tribe and till today ruled by the Fulanis attacked, burnt, pillaged, raped and plundered the capital of Oyo empire, sold most of its citizens to slavery and ruled the yorubas for close to a hundred years.
The Alaafin and his family fled like cowards to the emirate of Borgu where they where saved to letter come back 100 years later when the nupes allowed them back to rule.

Gone are the days when people feared the threat that the scions of the caliphate carrying the flaming sword of Uthman dan Fodio will slice through yorubaland like butter, hew out emirates and wash their bloodied sword on the green waters of the Atlantic.
Igbos as I understand have never and probably will ever be conquered by anybody. Maybe its because of their savage fighting spirit or their wretchedly poor erosion depleted land.

CobraAnambra:
Wetin dey worry you na. Ezendigbo Akure was disrespectful to the Oba, hence he was flogged but in this instance, the Sarkin Shasha was in attendance and well-behaved. Don't compare apple to an Orange

-cobra

CobraAnambra:
I have always maintained that all these strange titles( Seriki fulani, Sarkin hausa, Ezendigbo, Oba Yoruba ) in another man's region is arrant nonsense.
Everyone must submit to the local/native authorities as constituted by the community.
The regional system was the best practiced so far, there was no culture clash or insubordination.
Western Nigeria, Midwestern Nigeria, Eastern Nigeria & Northern Nigeria. As the names imply, you go into the region with utmost respect for both local and regional authorities. Unfortunately, the tag "One Nigeria" has bastardized our respective heritage and culture value under a unitary constitution in a false federalism.

-cobra

themosthigh:
Why are yorubas and Igbos so scared of the Fulanis? These guys are not even thinking of anything like conquest. The geographical limits of the Caliphate is Illorin where the yorubas there have accepted Fulani.

Yorubas are not and have never been compared to the fulanis in military might. At the height of the Oyo empire which was the greatest empire in the history of yorubas, the Nupes who are a small tribe and till today ruled by the Fulanis attacked, burnt, pillaged, raped and plundered the capital of Oyo empire, sold most of its citizens to slavery and ruled the yorubas for close to a hundred years.
The Alaafin and his family fled like cowards to the emirate of Borgu where they where saved to letter come back 100 years later when the nupes allowed them back to rule.

Gone are the days when people feared the threat that the scions of the caliphate carrying the flaming sword of Uthman dan Fodio will slice through yorubaland like butter, hew out emirates and wash their bloodied sword on the green waters of the Atlantic.
Igbos as I understand have never and probably will ever be conquered by anybody. Maybe its because of their savage fighting spirit or their wretchedly poor erosion depleted land.

Mayeldah:
That's how they started in Kwara years backs, today there are no Obas or baales in Kwara state. The Fulanis have taken over all the cultural stools available.

A word is enough for the wise!

Awoleesu:
Yes, I agree with you.
But it is encouraged to coexist. These nations don't give statutory recognition talk more preeminence to such "enclave authorities" as we have here.

Truth is the Oriental natives (especially Chinese and Indians) have many things in common with our Hausa/Fulani neighbors:
They deliberately alienate themselves from mainstream community (for unorthodox reasons tho). The same can be said of the Mexicans and Caribbeans/Latin community.

I guess that is why the state law enforcement agents always make their presence available in these enclaves...

Jolomenas:
We have sarkin yarbawa(oba of yoruba) in our lands too.
What are you saying??

Sterope:
There is nothing arrant nonsense about choosing a leader amongst themselves. The arrant nonsense is believing they are superior to the leaders of the land and the government recognising them. Neither should be relevant in the bigger scheme of things. This madness should not go unpunished, Seyi Makinde and co should suffer for it. The Seriki did not force the government to place them above the Baale of Sasha. At most, it should be a joint effort.

Seyi Makinde has proven himself ineptitude in protecting the lives and properties of the Oyo people. This wouldn't have happened under Ajimobi.

CharlesRyder:
Those histories aren't as clear-cut as you make them out to be. For example, the Nupe are actually an offshoot of the Yoruba via Igala, and Ife Ooye (never conquered by the way) has always been the capital of Yoruba land.

The Nupe conquest of Oyo Ile was more in the nature of internecine warfare, note also the Nupe never ruled the rest of the Yoruba speaking areas, all they did was sack Oyo, which was promptly rebuilt further south.

The Ibos owned nothing worthy of conquest. They built no cities/kingdoms and possessed no great commercial centers until the white man showed up. Plus the Niger served as a most effective natural barrier against hostile incursions from the north.

Rugaria:
The Olubadan should have gone ahead to "flog" the Sarkin Sass the same way some culture defenders "flogged" the Ezeigbo of Akure sometime ago.... Abi their cane dey fear face?

CobraAnambra:
I have always maintained that all these strange titles( Seriki fulani, Sarkin hausa, Ezendigbo, Oba Yoruba ) in another man's region is arrant nonsense.
Everyone must submit to the local/native authorities as constituted by the community.
The regional system was the best practiced so far, there was no culture clash or insubordination.
Western Nigeria, Midwestern Nigeria, Eastern Nigeria & Northern Nigeria. As the names imply, you go into the region with utmost respect for both local and regional authorities. Unfortunately, the tag "One Nigeria" has bastardized our respective heritage and culture value under a unitary constitution in a false federalism.

-cobra

themosthigh:
Why are yorubas and Igbos so scared of the Fulanis? These guys are not even thinking of anything like conquest. The geographical limits of the Caliphate is Illorin where the yorubas there have accepted Fulani.

Yorubas are not and have never been compared to the fulanis in military might. At the height of the Oyo empire which was the greatest empire in the history of yorubas, the Nupes who are a small tribe and till today ruled by the Fulanis attacked, burnt, pillaged, raped and plundered the capital of Oyo empire, sold most of its citizens to slavery and ruled the yorubas for close to a hundred years.
The Alaafin and his family fled like cowards to the emirate of Borgu where they where saved to letter come back 100 years later when the nupes allowed them back to rule.

Gone are the days when people feared the threat that the scions of the caliphate carrying the flaming sword of Uthman dan Fodio will slice through yorubaland like butter, hew out emirates and wash their bloodied sword on the green waters of the Atlantic.
Igbos as I understand have never and probably will ever be conquered by anybody. Maybe its because of their savage fighting spirit or their wretchedly poor erosion depleted land.

Mayeldah:
That's how they started in Kwara years backs, today there are no Obas or baales in Kwara state. The Fulanis have taken over all the cultural stools available.

A word is enough for the wise!

CobraAnambra:
I strongly doubt you understand the point.
You would think it's about choosing a leader/representative amongst themselves But the reality is that they are enthroning a monarch amongst themselves. This has to stop.

-cobra

Amotolongbo:
https://thenationonlineng.net/olubadan-to-hausa-leader-you-are-under-baale-of-sasa/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Sterope:
Why can't they enthrone a monarch amongst themselves?

CobraAnambra:
Having parallel monarch(s)/ highest organ of aut hority in the same community?. By which law would the parallel monarch would have existed?
Are you fucking kidding me?

-cobra