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CrimeRe: Elderly Man Hangs Himself In Gombe State Today (Photos) by rawgame(m): 7:10pm On May 23, 2016
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Christianity EtcRe: Does God Really Visit Us With Misfortunes Because Of The Sin We Committed? by rawgame(m): 4:02pm On May 22, 2016
Christians may face trials and suffer simply because
we live in a world full of sin. But Jesus said, “I have told
you these things, so that in Me you may have [perfect] peace
and confidence. In the world you have tribulation and trials
and distress and frustration; but be of good cheer [take
courage; be confident, certain, undaunted]! For I have
overcome the world. [I have deprived it of power to harm you
and have conquered it for you]” (John 16:33 ).
What a promise! Understanding the reason for our
suffering and having the assurance of the final glory we'll
share should make it a little easier to enjoy our
lives...even during the times of sharing in suffering.
And if we are [His] children, then we are [His] heirs
also: heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ [sharing
His inheritance with Him]; only we must share His
suffering if we are to share His glory ( Romans 8:17 ).

evansjeff, God is not punishing you
RomanceRe: Girl selling bra show of her hot boobs (photos) by rawgame(m): 2:43pm On May 22, 2016
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Christianity EtcRe: Enough Of This Pentecostal Scam by rawgame(m): 2:07pm On May 22, 2016
frosbel2:
These scammers in religious garb spewing their garbage while deceiving millions and rendering their congregations from poverty to complete impoverishment , superstition and turning them from 'brainfull' humans into brainless sheep , need to be STOPPED.

So while Buhari is tackling the endemic corruption in Nigeria he should turn his eye to their allies who are mostly leaders of pentecostal churches and seize their assets ,money and in some cases close down their churches for GOOD !

Their universities should become state owned rather than exclusive enclaves for the rich and privileged despite the fact that they were built from the widows mite ( of course the widows were cast out afterwards ). Their jets should be sold and the money returned to members of their churches.

Every Sunday the thieves think of what scripture they will twist to their own destruction and extract money from the hard working and even jobless suffering members of their congregation , including students. If this is not a CRIME what else is, is this not extortion , no ?? They are cursed and no for good rogues that must be dealt with asap.

People for how long will you allow yourself be a hypnotized member of the churches of these miscreants, why not completely abandon them so that their source of their income will dry up , and they will eat Nebuchadnezzar's grass of humility .

Since when did preaching become a career or source of salary/income ?? Is this not madness, telling people about the good news which is truly a free gift and indirectly charging them for money. Did Paul not work and from time to time receive freewill offerings, NEVER TITHES OR FIRST FRUITS!

While the church members are eating from hand to mouth these rogues and their families are wining and dinning on the most delicious and exotic foods and going to the most expensive restaurants.

These rogues called pastors, sleep with the wives of their members, defile young virgins and stupid girls while preaching about fidelity, who the hell are they kidding ? They want to control you and yet they cannot control their greed and passions. Woe onto them.

Buhari needs to setup a special branch within their EFCC to investigate these thieves , track them down, seize their assets and punish them according the rule of law. That will put an end to their scamming, noise pollution and corruption of politicians and innocent church members.

End of rant. angry angry

Christianity EtcRe: Does God Truly Exist? Prove It Without Using Bible by rawgame(m):
Nice topic. I will present my answer in the form of valid arguments:

The Argument From Design
When we look at anything which has a design, we rightly
conclude that it had a designer. Somebody designed
chairs for a purpose. Somebody designed a glove to fit
over a hand. The universe, and particularly human
beings, show an unbelievable amount of design. This
points to a Designer.

The Argument From Anthropology
Humans have a complex personality. It seems (and is)
absurd that such complexity could have emerged from
nothing, with no cause. Rather, the human personality
would need to be made by a Being with the same, if not
greater, complex personality.

The Argument From Cause-Effect
Everything we can think of, and which we encounter, has
been caused by something. Every effect has a cause. In
something as complex and awesome as the universe,
there is no difference. The Big Bang Theory does not
destroy this argument, for no-one can explain the cause
of the Big Bang.

The Argument From Ontology
If there is a concept of something, this implies that the
something does exist. For example, there is the popular
concept of 'true love'. Although this concept might often
seem elusive, the fact that we have the concept of true
love in our heads, points to the real probability of the
existence of true love.

The Argument From Morality
The sense of morals which most people have 'built-in',
points to the existence of a moral Maker. More than this,
the other option of evolution, has no way of explaining
how morals came from pond-slime, and ultimately, from
nothing.

These arguments does serve as possibly 'prove' that God exists. They also provide enough of a starting point to accept that there is a Higher Being of some kind
FamilyRe: All What Your Mother Had And You Don't by rawgame(m):
I don't want to sound unchivalrous but whenever MOST women say that they can do without the men, I always feel that they want to compensate for that "guilty feeling in their mind" arising from thier overall dependency.
Christianity EtcRe: Long Courtship Or Short Courtship.... by rawgame(m):
One of the most important elements in a courtship relationship is the emphasis on discerning marriage. One way a courtship differs from dating is that the couple has chosen to use this time together to discern whether or not marriage is their calling. It is not just a series of dates without direction.

Some couples will have a fairly good idea early on in their relationship if they are called to marriage. A courtship should still give them time to allow them to grow in a Christ-centered relationship. Time spent wisely in a courtship can greatly bless the marriage that springs forth from it.

For some couples, it can take a long time to be certain that marriage is for them. There may be obstacles to overcome – distance, career-challenges, family matters, etc.

What is important in both short and long-term courtships is that a couple needs to commit themselves to purity in their relationship if they are to live out chastity. They need to set realistic guidelines to help them stay on track. They need to keep in touch with at least one mentoring couple who will challenge them, guide them and be there to support them through the difficulties.

Courtship is a time to grow in a relationship. A couple gets to see each other in a variety of settings: family, work, leisure, church, service. This helps them to identify potential problems in their relationship and address these before entering marriage. It also helps them to mature as individuals through practicing self-discipline and right judgment.

A long-term courtship can be more difficult, because the couple, once having determined they are called to marriage, may grow frustrated with the wait. Sometimes life calls us to be patient and wait for a long time for the things we desire most. Though this can present challenges, it doesn’t make it wrong. We need to always trust that God has a perfect plan for our lives and that He will give us His best if we allow Him to, in His time.

A quick courtship can have its pitfalls as well. Just because a couple knows early on that they want to get married does not mean that they should skip the courtship stage all together. The danger here is that their decision to marry might be based more on emotions than on prayerful discernment. There are valuable lessons to be learned along the path for a courting couple. A hasty courtship that does not allow proper time to discern has the potential of leading into difficulties in marriage . . . but not necessarily.

A courtship should be an exciting and fun stage in life. It should be a time of growth both personally and as a couple. It should be a time of coming closer to God and to each other.

But don’t keep the courtship going on indefinitely just for the sake of the courtship itself. If the relationship really does not seem to be going toward marriage, be honest, step back and call it off. This allows both persons to move on in their vocations with less baggage. A properly done courtship should allow a couple to break up if they so discern without regrets. If the couple has reserved their physical affection they will find it easier to go separate ways if that is God’s will.

Don’t rush it . . . but don’t drag it out unnecessarily! The key in all of this is prayerful discernment.
Christianity EtcRe: Is It Scripturally Wrong For A Christian To Marry A Muslim? by rawgame(m): 9:06pm On May 15, 2016
moyakz, the pleasure is mine. Happy new week.
Christianity EtcRe: Is It Scripturally Wrong For A Christian To Marry A Muslim? by rawgame(m):
It is written (2 Cor.6:14): "What concord
hath light with darkness? [*Vulg.: 'What fellowship hath
light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with
Belial?']" Now there is the greatest concord between
husband and wife. Therefore one who is in the light of
faith should not marry one who is in the darkness of
unbelief.
Further, it is written (Malachi 2:11): "Juda hath profaned
the holiness of the Lord, which he loved, and hath
married the daughter of a strange god." But such had
not been the case if they could have married validly.
Therefore disparity of worship is an impediment to
marriage.
I answer that, The chief good of marriage is the
offspring to be brought up to the worship of God. Now
since education is the work of father and mother in
common, each of them intends to bring up the child to
the worship of God according to their own faith.
Consequently if they be of different faith, the intention
of the one will be contrary to the intention of the other,
and therefore there cannot be a fitting marriage between
them. For this reason disparity of faith previous to
marriage is an impediment to the marriage contract.

Someone may ask, what of a believer who was already married to an unbeliever before becoming a Christian? There is provision for a believer who is already married to an unbeliever. The Bible specifically addresses those who are married to unbelievers in 1 Corinthians 7:12-14 : “…If any brother has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to live with him, he must not divorce her. And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him. For the
unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his
wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified
through her believing husband…”
Christians married to unbelievers will need to pray for the
power of the Holy Spirit to enable them to profess Christ
and live in the light of God's presence ( 1 John 1:7 ). They should seek God's transforming power to change their hearts and produce the fruit of the Holy Spirit (Galatians
5:22-23 ). A Christian wife is obligated to have a
submissive heart, even toward her unbelieving husband
(1 Peter 3:1 ), and she will need to remain close to God
and rely on His grace to enable her to do so.
PoliticsRe: Buhari Has Secretly Added To The Budget (pic Included) by rawgame(m): 2:16am On May 15, 2016
Careful O! Unless you are ready for this

Christianity EtcRe: Finally I Have Crossed The Bridge Of Agnostism Into The Land Of Atheism by rawgame(m): 2:24pm On May 14, 2016
Okay bye
RomanceRe: Pastor Was Trying To Cast Out Demons Hiding In Her V*gina, Then This Happened by rawgame(m): 2:09pm On May 14, 2016
Source or...

EducationRe: Exam Question For 500Level Lautech Students by rawgame(m): 9:34pm On May 13, 2016
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Christianity EtcRe: On the Supernatural & Juju (Black Magic) by rawgame(m): 7:12pm On May 13, 2016
@GrizzlyBear sorry to say, their answers may not gratify your genuine curiosity. Most Atheist are very confused still seeking for answers themselves.
Christianity EtcRe: Why You Should Accept The Biblical Account Of Jesus And His Wonderful Works by rawgame(op):
winsley:
OK prove to me eternity exist, how my eternal life depends on Jesus
Faith is a credible evidence. Don't you think that believing is a risk worth taking? OK, what do you stand to loose if you believe?
Christianity EtcRe: Why You Should Accept The Biblical Account Of Jesus And His Wonderful Works by rawgame(op): 6:11pm On May 13, 2016
Weah96:
Julius Caesar and Plato didn't open their graves and fly into the sky. Whether or not they were real is unimportant because they should be dead NOW.
I only made a comparative analysis
Christianity EtcRe: Why You Should Accept The Biblical Account Of Jesus And His Wonderful Works by rawgame(op): 6:05pm On May 13, 2016
ThatVvnGurl:
Why you MUST? Bro salvation is not by force. this your topic just vex me.
Sorry dear, I didn't mean to offend you. OK, let me insert "should" rather
Christianity EtcRe: Why You Should Accept The Biblical Account Of Jesus And His Wonderful Works by rawgame(op):
onetrack:
All you are doing is suggesting that a man named Jesus (Yeshua) probably existed around the time that Christians believe. I can accept that. However it is one thing to claim that he existed, but quite another to say that he performed miracles and is sitting at the right hand of an unseen god.

There are legends surrounding other people who actually lived as well, but the stories themselves are either untrue or exaggerated. I believe the same about Jesus: he may have existed but was not the son of god, a prophet, or a miracle worker because none of those have ever been proven to exist.
I know of examples of some sort which
do meet requirements as “proof” outside the Bible (and
outside of the writings of believers) that Jesus did perform miracles. In these cases, the writers provides for us evidence that Jesus worked miracles, but in writing intended to downplay belief in such miracles.
The first comes from the Babylonian Talmud 43a.
Babylonian Talmud (late first or second century AD)
Babylonian Sanhedrin43a-b “On the eve of the
Passover they hanged Yeshu and the herald went
before him for forty days saying [Yeshu] is going forth
to be stoned in that he hate practiced sorcery and
beguiled and led astray Israel Here Jesus is accused
of sorcery, in obvious parallel with the charge leveled
in Matthew 12:22-23. The writer of the Talmud does
not agree that Jesus worked bona fide miracles, but he
reports that he did things which, to the enemy of
Jesus could only be written off as sorcery. Also, in
Babylonian Sanhedrin107b it is claimed that Jesus
practiced magic. In tHul2:22-23 it is reported that
healings were done in the name of Jesus. So we have
indirect confirmation of the crucifixion of Jesus and of
his working of public miracles-only wrongly charging that the miracles were worked by Satan, not God.
The point I would make from this material in the
Jewish Talmud from the late first century is that it
proves that Jesus was a person they felt they had to
deal with and that it was sufficiently common
knowledge that he worked signs and wonders that
they felt they had to address this by falsely claiming that
Jesus did his miracles by the power of Satan (sorcery).
Doesn't this “prove” that Jesus worked miracles? What it also proves is that many in his day were convinced that he worked miracles and that his enemies were aware of sufficient positive evidence of this that they felt they needed to explain it.
CrimeRe: JUSTICE IS PARTIAL by rawgame(m): 4:31pm On May 13, 2016
grin

Christianity EtcWhy You Should Accept The Biblical Account Of Jesus And His Wonderful Works by rawgame(op):
There is a great logical fallacy among Bible skeptics, atheists and those who like to challenge Christianity that says when discussing the historical aspects of the Bible “you can’t use the Bible as proof that Jesus existed. You must use non-Bible sources!!” To which I say, “why not?” The four Gospels of the Bible are bibliographical accounts of the life of Jesus. The normal objective measure of the reliability of historical document is: 1) The number of available copies of ancient manuscripts and 2) the time span between the original version and the date of those copies still in existence today. When examined under this standard, the Bible proves to provide a treasure trove of proof and evidence that Jesus really existed.

Some of the earliest manuscript fragments of the New Testament are the John Rylands Fragment, Chester Beatty Papyrus and the Bodmer Papyrus which were written between 50-100AD. Copies of these papyri were reproduced in 125-200AD, meaning that the time span between the originals and the copies still in existence today is 29 years to 130 years, putting all these manuscripts beings written anywhere from 50-100 years after the death of Jesus Christ. Now some may object and say “Hold on! These manuscripts were written years after Jesus died. There’s no way they could be reliable!” But any expert on ancient documents would disagree.

Let’s look at some of the more famous and universally accepted historical documents and see how they match up with the Bible:

Plato — Plato wrote his works from 427-347 BC. The earliest manuscript copy of Plato’s writing in existence today was written in 900 AD. That is 1,200 years after Plato’s death! And there are only 2 copies of these manuscripts in existence.

Julius Caesar — One of the most celebrated and trusted historical figures. Caesar lived from 100-44 BC and the earliest manuscript copy of his writings dates back to 900 AD, putting our best evidence of Caesar ever existing 1,000 years after his death. And there are 10 copies of ancient manuscripts of Caesar’s Gallic Wars . So if you question the Bible based on when it was written, being “translated so many times” (it was not – we still have the same Greek manuscripts today) and still question whether Jesus existed, then you must also be really sure that Julius Caesar and Plato were completely fictional characters and never really existed.

Homer — Homer, who historians are not even sure ever really existed even today, is credited with writing the Iliad in ca 900 BC. The earliest manuscript copy of the Iliad dates to 400 BC. Meaning the only proof of Homer or the Iliad being accurate is from 500 years after the death of Homer. Additionally there are 643 copies of ancient manuscripts of the Iliad written over the centuries that when compared against each other by experts have a 95.3 consistency and accuracy, making it one of the most reliable and proven documents of antiquity.
That is of course, until you compare it to the New
Testament. The New Testament manuscripts date to less than 100 years after the death of Christ. Additionally there are over 5,600 ancient manuscript copies of the New Testament giving it more copies to a degree that dwarfs any other figure of ancient history. And they have a 99% accuracy when compared to each other. The evidence is not even comparable. And it all points to Jesus Christ. The record of the life, ministry, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ has more evidence and proof than any other person from antiquity.

CONCLUSION

The most amazing conclusion in all of this is not only that Jesus really existed — it is that He still exists. And He sits in Heaven at the right hand of God offering forgiveness to those who will not just believe He was a regular man, but that He as the Son of God, gave His life on that same cross that so many historians knew about, to take the punishment for sins that all of humanity has committed. It just takes faith and trust in that sacrifice to receive him. Jesus said: Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. – Revelation 3:20-21. Jesus wants us to believe in Him so we can be freely forgiven of the sins we have committed in our lives, have eternal life and reign with Him. So now that it is established that He existed, why not take the time to get to know Jesus Christ and who He said He is from His historically-verifiable perspective? Your eternal life may depend on it.
Christianity EtcRe: PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again by rawgame(m): 3:46am On May 12, 2016
HardMirror:
Don't you think it would be better to instead say that prayer for your dad? Won't it be good if he becomes an evangelist and start preaching against illicit sex and irresponsibility?
I think the society needs him more at least we won't have bastards everywhere.
Guy, you actually made this pejorative remark? You could have been more sensitive to the young man's plight. You must not exhibit emotional cruelty before you can be heard. Your derogatory attribute is why I didn't continue with the other conversation I had with you.
Christianity EtcRe: PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again by rawgame(m): 1:07pm On May 06, 2016
rawgame:
Some people worship deities that give them Odeshi. Let me give a brief background information of what Odeshi means.


The word Odeshi is simply a compression of
this Igbo sentence, "O dighi eshi" which
literally means, "It is not leaking". Odeshi
was popularised during the reign of the
dreaded Bakassi Boys in the dark ages of the Mbadinuju
Administration when they were introduced as the
vigilante group in Anambra State. Their bodies were impenetrable for bullets, machetes etc. They had earlier
performed the miracle of effectively checking the
daredevil armed robbers that terrorized the neighbouring
Abia State then under the leadership of the youthful and
popular Gov. Orji Uzor Kalu.

Odeshi is obviously a supernatural ability. If deities do not exist, how were those boys able to accomplish this feat? Please an atheist should refute this with meaningful argument. These deities will definitely give their worshipers other supernatural powers. If these deities exist, and their follower attacks you(with supernatural powers) , who will you run to? Dear nairalanders, the fact is that there are actually evil men with more supernatural powers than the bakassi boys. What if they attack an Atheist, where will an Atheist run to? Please an Atheist should respond.
I made some important queries in the post above but no Atheist could refute. Dear nairalanders don't be like the man that made friends with the hyenas thinking that the hyenas will protect him in the day of trouble. Verily Verily I say unto you even before trouble came, the hyenas tore him in pieces.
Christianity EtcRe: PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again by rawgame(m):
Some people worship deities that give them Odeshi. Let me give a brief background information of what Odeshi means.


The word Odeshi is simply a compression of
this Igbo sentence, "O dighi eshi" which
literally means, "It is not leaking". Odeshi
was popularised during the reign of the
dreaded Bakassi Boys in the dark ages of the Mbadinuju
Administration when they were introduced as the
vigilante group in Anambra State. Their bodies were impenetrable for bullets, machetes etc. They had earlier
performed the miracle of effectively checking the
daredevil armed robbers that terrorized the neighbouring
Abia State then under the leadership of the youthful and
popular Gov. Orji Uzor Kalu.

Odeshi is obviously a supernatural ability. If deities do not exist, how were those boys able to accomplish this feat? Please an atheist should refute this with meaningful argument. These deities will definitely give their worshipers other supernatural powers. If these deities exist, and their follower attacks you(with supernatural powers) , who will you run to? Dear nairalanders, the fact is that there are actually evil men with more supernatural powers than the bakassi boys. What if they attack an Atheist, where will an Atheist run to? Please an Atheist should respond.
Health8 Habits That Promote Healthy Mind For A Healthy Body by rawgame(op):
The history of human evolution shows a
definitive link between our physical health and
psychological well-being. The Greeks understood the
importance of a Sound Mind in a Sound Body. That credo
became the foundation of their civilization.


8 HABITS FOR A HEALTHY MIND IN A HEALTHY BODY


1. Daily Physicality: Exercise for at least 20 minutes
most days of the week.

2. Intellectual Curiosity: Spend some time in focused
thought, exploring new ideas every day.

3. Foster Creativity: Challenge your mind to connect
unrelated ideas in new and useful ways.

4. Human Unity : Create and maintain close-knit human
bonds and a social support network.

5. Spiritual Connectedness : Identify a Source of
inspiration that is bigger than you.

6. Energy Balance: Balance Calories in/Calories out,
and reduce your carbon footprint.

7. Voluntary Simplicity: Embrace the liberty that
comes with wanting and needing less. Simple living, is a way of life that rejects the high-consumption, materialistic lifestyles of consumer cultures. The affirmation of simplicity arises from the recognition that very little is needed to live well, that abundance is a state of mind, not a quantity of consumer products or attainable through them.

8. Adequate Sleep.
PoliticsRe: 40 Photos Around The World That Will Break Your Heart by rawgame(m): 4:05pm On May 04, 2016
So touching
PoliticsRe: Photo: A President On A Bicycle To Work And Another In A Convoy For A Haircut by rawgame(m):
Rollingdice:
This why people say Africa will never develop. This picture says a lot. The Prime Minister of Netherlands Mark Rutte takes a ride on a bicycle to office while the President of Kenya Uhuru Kenyatta is in a convoy for a hair cut.
@op, Grow up man
Christianity EtcRe: Paul A Liar? by rawgame(m):
2 Peter. 3:14-16
'' 14Therefore, beloved, as you anticipate these things,
make every effort to be found at peace with Him,
without spot or blemish. 15 Consider also that our
Lord’s patience brings salvation, just as our beloved
brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom God
gave him. 16 He writes this way in all his letters,
speaking in them about such matters. Some parts of
his letters are hard to understand, which ignorant and
unstable people distort, as they do the rest of the
Scriptures, to their own destruction.…''


haffaze777, Apostle Peter confirmed Apostle Paul's epistles as part of the Holy scriptures. Read the scripture above emphasis on verse 15. haffaze777,stop biting more than you can chew. LoJ johnydon22
Christianity EtcRe: What Are Muslim Women Promised In Paradise? by rawgame(m):
Interesting topic. Let me call people. Visitor700 Rilwayne001 what can you say about this?
Christianity EtcRe: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by rawgame(m):
deeplow:
Thanks for taking time to respond. From your response, all I could deduce is that I should not believe what the bible says. The bible has clearly stated the fate of an unbeliever.

The bible is the word of God, your response advises me to disbelieve the word of God. Am I getting it wrong? Anyway, thanks.
you seem not to understand me. I ended the post by saying that you should obey God. Now I add that you should Accept Jesus Christ and believe him. "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is no other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved" Acts. 4:12


If you read Col. 1:20 "And having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, if I say, whether there be things in earth, or things in heaven"
Christianity EtcRe: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by rawgame(m): 7:42pm On May 02, 2016
deeplow:
I am not an atheist, but i have reservations about religion and what it teaches. I was talking to a Christian friend about a month ago, she kept going on and on about how Christianity is the only way to heaven.

So, i asked her, from the genesis, "why are you a Christian"?
She gave a lot of indirect answers. I helped her out, i told her she is initially a Christian because her parents are. I then asked her what Christianity said about non-believers and heaven. She said, Christianity is the passport to heaven.

So, i asked her, what did you do to/for God that i didn't do?
Why am i condemned to hell fire because of something i am innocent of?

Why did God let me choose parents who are practising the "wrong" religion?

What did i do to God?

Would God watch me burn for eternity over something he helped me do(we are to believe God chooses who our parents are)?

If truly God is all loving, why didnt he lead us all on the right path?

Why do i have to be Muslim and destined for hell fire?

She only just continued preaching, so, i just told her to continue with the meal. She didnt have an answer.

This is not an attack on Christianity!!! It is an attack on religion. it only came this way because of the way it happened.

I'd be glad if anybody, be it a Muslim or Christian, shed more light on this.


It is just funny how people who are educated fail to question religion. Ignore whatever you have been taught , look at religion from a neutral perspective, you will understand a lot of things.
God is never in a tight corner with regards to saving people. God said he will have mercy on whom he will he will have mercy(exodus.33:19). He always has a way of escape for those who diligently seek him(heb. 11:6). Jesus Christ had not yet come in the days of Abraham but Abraham and others like Enoch are saved. The Bible even let's use know that Angel Micheal and other angels loyal to God overcame Satan by the words of their testimonies and by the blood of the lamb.(Rev. 12:11)notice the war Micheal fought in revelation was before the finished work on calvary. Jesus Christ confirmed the outcome of that battle(Luke. 10:18). Quit thinking how God will do things in time to come and Obey him

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