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CultureRe: Itsekiri And Olukumi Form Alliance, Share History, Celebrate Exchange (Pics) by AlphaTaikun: 3:45am On Jul 20
Konquest:
Leave Reno Omokri out of your rants and get your historical facts right. This pure historical information is from advanced archival materials I've been privy to from different credible sources for decades now as as a well-read and internationally well-traveled man. Reno himself doesn't always get his FACTS right (especially when he is not in the best frame of mind due to stress or fatigue), BUT as a UK-educated lawyer, he MUST be commended for always apologizing whenever he is wrong and he indeed does a damn good job of presenting a logical sequence of FACTS and events backed by rock solid sources for further verifications.

Second, the screenshots of the internationally respected and advanced books on the igala conquests of parts of what is now called Iboland and the derogatory origins of the name Ibo (Igbo) denoting a slave of the bush area or ONIGBO in igala, IGBON in Benin-Edo and ONYE IBO (IGBO) to the Onitsha and Asaba folks were CLEARLY ATTACHED to my NL post which you quoted. Take the time to read through those book screenshots again.

Third, just so you know, I have decades of advanced historical knowledge (before many here were even born), so, I ONLY provide accurate historical information backed by credible EVIDENCE and book sources and NOT assumptions like these unschooled young posters and propergandist do online. It is what it is. Read More on the igala Conquests of Northern Iboland right up to the Asaba area right BELOW

VIDEO of Catholic Bishop: Attah of igala Conquered Northern Igboland (Nsukka) All The Way To Asaba
=>https://www.nairaland.com/8089723/catholic-bishop-attah-igala-conquered

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Ibo-igala Wars
=>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igbo%25E2%2580%2593Igala_wars


Fourth, the Iconic book, "The Igbo-igala Borderland" [written by an American academic who taught at University of Nigeria, Nsukka back from the 1960s to the 1970s] whose book cover screenshot I also ATTACHED earlier to my post ABOVE CLEARLY states that:

"When, in the late eighteenth century, the igala CONQUERED the indigenous Igbo, they gained and held social control through monopoly of certain..."

=>https://sunypress.edu/Books/T/The-Igbo-igala-Borderland2


The igala conquests and colonisation of Northern Ibo areas of Northern Enugu especially Nsukka including parts of Anambra (and Northern Delta State) ALSO led to people from these conquered area being sold as SLAVES. The igala war machine during the Ibo-igala Wars didn't extend to other parts of what is now the South East.

=>https://www.facebook.com/nigeriahistoryupdate/posts/igala-colonisation-of-northern-igbo-communities-1450-18th-centurythe-igala-mega-/

Fifth, again, the screenshots of the advanced book sources I ATTACHED CLEARLY state the accurate and ORIGINAL etymology of the word Ibo (Igbo) which has condescending and derogatory connotations as used by the neighbors of the people now called Ibo unknown to some younger Ibos today who have NO knowledge of the original meaning which means SLAVE or OUT CAST from the bush. This is why the igala call slaves "ONIGBO," the Benin-Edos used the term "IGBON" and the Asaba and Onitsha refered condescendingly to those in the Ibo interior as "ONYE IBO" (IGBO) because East of river Niger was source of SLAVES for them before 1900 and even well after 1900. igala being a Yoruboid language (with 65% mutual intelligibility with Yoruba language) has the pure Yoruba word "IGBO" in the word igala word "ONIGBO" which means bush or forest in Yoruba BUT further means a "slave got from the bush" in igala hence the derogatory name for slaves, "ONIGBO."



The name Ibo (Igbo) as used to describe a tribe east of river Niger had NO positive connotation of ANY kind at all! Ngwa, Owere, Awka, Mbaise, etc, were the names used by the subgroups to individually describe themselves until the advent of the missionaries and the British Colonialists who began to officially use the same condescending term "Ibo" to describe all the interior tribes that now make up the Ibo tribe of today. It's all a British Colonial creation. These FACTS are CLEARLY emphasized upon in the historical archives.
Bump.
CultureRe: Itsekiri And Olukumi Form Alliance, Share History, Celebrate Exchange (Pics) by AlphaTaikun: 3:23am On Jul 20
[quote author=Iy.fe.Na.mik.aze post=135710834]please can you stop spreading this bullshit claims already?

In igala language the term for slave is Ójó pronounced (Oh joh). This refers to individuals captured in wars or treaded during pre colonial times. Although that term is now considered as archaic due to its association with transatlantic slave trade. But that is the word for Slave in ancient igala during the pre colonial times.
In contemporary usage, phrases like ọde eni ( servant) or ọme ọni ( dependant) might be preferred for neutrality.
igala oral traditions sometimes reference slavery in proverbs : Ójó léké égba ògwu ( A Slave who survives becomed a storyteller)

As for the term for "OUTCAST" or "SOCIALLY OSTRACIZED PERSON" is Ọ̀mè-ọ̀chè . There are some other contextual variations like Ọ̀me-èfu, ọ̀me-àtọ and Ọ̀me-ọlè.
Go and ask any igala person and they will educate you more on this.

So your claims that onigbo or igbo means slaves in igala is wrong and total bullshit! Anyone who says that should be regarded as a quark and should be ignored because he/she is wrong based on standard igala language and historical- linguistic evidence, and I'm going to Tell you why

As previously established, Ójó is the universally accepted igala word for Slave across dialects ( Idah, Ankpa, Dekina etc) .

Onigbo in igala means Igbo person (ONI = person, IGBO= igbo ethnic group). It is not synonymous with slave, it's an ethnic identifier just as Onèja means Hausa person.

Possible confusion or misinterpretation

During the trans Saharan/Atlantic slave trade,some Igbo people were enslaved and sold through igala middlemen (e.g at the Aboh and Idah slave markets). so overtime some outsiders or even locals might have conflated the ethnic term Onigbo with slavery due to this history .
And if we look at academic sources, John Idakwoji's igala-English lexicon confirms that Ójó is the correct term in igala linguistics. And Modern igala communities reject Onigbo as meaning slavery because it's an ethnic libel.
So while some Igbo people were sold as slaves, their ethnic name ≠ the word for Slavery.

HERE ARE DIRECT QUOTES FROM HISTORICAL TEXTS, PROVERBS, SCHOLARLY SOURCES That disproves the claims that igbo/Onigbo means slaves in igala and affirms that Ójó is the correct term.

"THE igala KINGDOM" (1972) by J.S Boston:
"The igala referes to slaves generally as Ójó, whether captured or through war, trade or punishment. The term Onigbo was preserved solely for Igbo neighbours not servitude"

"THE NIGERIAN HINTERLAND SLAVE TRADE" (1989) by A.J.N Tremeane:
"At the Idah slave markets, records show that slaves were called Ójó, regardless of ethnicity, the term Igbo appears only to describe captives of igbo origin, not as synonym for slavery

Here are also proverbs in igala

Ójó léké égba ògwu, Òméja léké égba ògwu ( A Slave who survives becomes a storyteller, a free person who survives becomes a storyteller)

Átá y'Ójó kome y'ọmeja (The king's slave and the king's freeborn are not equal)

Also If you check the igala-English lexicon dictionary (2015) by John Idawoji:
Ójó: n, Slave, servant≠ Onigbo(n, Igbo person)

A GRAMMAR OF igala(2020) by E.J Alagoa
"No lexical or archival evidence supports "Onigbo" as slave in igala. This conflation likely stems from 19th century slave trade narratives misinterpreting ethnic labels"

This whole misinformation likely stems from post ethnic stigma or interethnic tensions, but linguistic rigor and historical records dispel it.

Go read those books I referenced and cure your ignorance. There's an igala dictionary, look for it also. Ask any igala person whether what I wrote here is bullshit or not. Not even a single igala person would agree with you on your fake and quark theories.[/quote]I will respond to this here and now [for the last time ever]. First off, I'm ONLY responding to your post because you gave some book references here which I will go over in detail by ordering for some of the books.

[b]I DON'T need to ask any igala person the meaning of "slave." The word "slave" in modern igala language usage means ADU OJO. I've known about that since the early 1990s [due to my interactions with igala acquaintances in my quest to understand how igala came to be a Yoruboid language with about 65% mutual intelligibility with the mainstream Yoruba language]. You totally went off tangent and blindly rushed through my post on the other page skipping right over the MAJOR or KEY points I made and you started saying incorrectly that I refered to slave as "Igbo" which is highly incorrect. "Igbo" simply refers to BUSH or FOREST (In Yoruba language or igala being a Yoruboid language) and (when used to describe a group of people centuries ago in the days of slave raidings), it refers to bush or forest dwelling people. A slave remains "Adu OJO" in igala.[/b]

The MAJOR thrust of my posts was CLEARLY stated on this same thread BUT you didn't carefully NOTE the ATTACHED screenshots of the advanced history book pages which referenced the etymology of IBO (Igbo). If you had, you would have SEEN the historical reference to where the people of Asaba and Onitsha refered to the interior tribes (located to the East of river Niger and East of Onitsha) as "ONYE IBO," while the Igalas refered to the tribes as "IBO," and the Bini-Edo used "IGBON" to denote the same tribes of people East of Onitsha. That Ibo interior area was raided for slaves and the Asaba and Onitsha people pre-1900 NEVER refered to themselves as "ONYE IBO" which was used as a word of contempt for those other interior tribes.

Today, due to political correctness, these condescending terms are NOT overtly used or as widely used by a lot of those groups but the Edos still refer to the Ibo as IGBON.
CrimeRe: Court Orders Final Forfeiture Of Aisha Achimugu’s N4.6bn Jewellery, N4.3bn Cars, by SultanYoung(m): 6:41pm On Jul 16
Rocky247:
What a wicked country. I think these were accumulated during Buhari reign. Every individual that served under Buhari should diligently probed by this government and I hope same probe should be apply to the people serving presently under Tinubu after his tenure one way or the other.
Funny Gen Z hahahahah.

Go Google her last name and Google Kaduna Textiles.

You think say na the banni symphon money hahahah.

Na her papa be the devil ask any igala and Igbira man
PoliticsWhat Will A Just And Fair Nigeria Look Like? Will It Be Good Enough? by lawani(op):
What would a fair and just Nigeria look like? Will it be good enough?


I am enlightened enough to know that markets make an economy and populations make markets and I will never agree to the notion that a nation of five million people can be richer than one of ten million people, all things being equal.If things like dependency ratio, HDI, internally generated revenue drive and etc were equal. This is because adults in both constituencies wake up everyday to take part in economic activities that put food on their tables and on the tables of their dependants. You can't be working everyday as a fisherman and still be working everyday as a fashion designer or a computer programmer. Therefore all work rank equal more or less and it is everybody working together that produce all what we consume. If you have crude oil, you probably don't have savannah grass that can feed cattle worth twenty billion dollars a year and etc etc. You don't have the soil and climate to produce cocoa of seven billion dollars a year etc etc. Nobody has it all together. No economic activity is mediocre

Therefore, every constituency is rich if they are evenly organized. This inadvertently means their internally generated revenue will be proportional to their population size if they are evenly organized.

Therefore a just Nigeria will grant representation to the federating units at the center according to igr and the representation will be subject to periodic review. A constitution that gives three senators to Lagos and Kano that are states both over twenty million in population each while giving fifteen senators to the South east of nineteen million people is not a just constitution. The only indicator of population size that can not be controverted is the internally generated revenue gotten from that population. The population of the South East can be deduced or estimated by comparing the NIN registration of Lagos to that of the south east while assuming Lagos total population is twenty three million.

A just Nigeria will grant autonomy to all ethnic groups that demand it. Ijesa will be a state, Urhobo will be a state, Itsekiri will be a state, igala will be a state, Tiv, Idoma etc This was what was agreed upon at independence. It does not matter if a group is only fifty thousand in population if they were free in the nineteenth century they should be free in the twenty first and they should have representation at the center according to their GDP size as proved by their igr. They should not go from freedom to colonisation by the British then independence from the British only to go into bondage or regulated independence in Nigeria. If they can be granted autonomy as the Midwest was granted autonomy in 1963, it would be a just Nigeria.

A just Nigeria will grant any government tier the right to police itself within it's boundaries. There is also nothing wrong if private security companies are allowed to arm to take part fully in the industry.

People try to justify the constitution imposed on the country by the military saying states are equally represented in the Senate also in the USA but according to what I saw an American post recently on social media, the US made such a constitution because it was not yet a free society back then. Coloured people were twenty four percent of the population at independence and ninety percent were enslaved, there also were many states where women could not vote. They therefore wrote their laws to fit their needs back then. In Nigeria today, are any group slaves that should be under represented at the center? The answer is No. This is why the present constitution is unjust and unfair. We can't be slaves on our own land. In the US at independence some states had huge economies because of slave labor

Then in a just and fair Nigeria, you would not man security posts of any kind in Hausa land with Yoruba people and vice versa. Whether it is the police, the DSS or the army, this should not be the case. The British did it but it was for the security of their empire. Why has Nigeria continued it? Even after Chief Awolowo ended it in 1967?

If all these changes are effected, then the country would be somewhat fairer and more just except for those who think resource control is the main issue.

However it will still not be a good enough country for at least the Yoruba or Hausa or Igbo because they are big enough to be using their language on their lands. The Yoruba and Hausa especially have a large population of their members in neighboring countries and their aim should be to be in the same country with them.

The best way forward for the Yoruba is not a just and fair Nigeria but a totally new country where Yoruba is the national language. Yoruba is the primary language on lands in Nigeria where the total population is around 70 million and if you add lands where it is secondary language already it will be close to seventy five million people. If they seek union with Yoruba speaking lands to the West where French is the official language and they succeed, they will be close to one hundred million people and etc etc. The Igbo too can seek union with others in the same way. Ethnic groups that are smaller should also use their language on their lands, in their local parliaments and teach it in their schools while also learning in school the majority local language of any nation they align with if they choose to do that because there also is strength in numbers. English language should only be taught in schools just as it is in other countries.


In conclusion a fair and just Nigeria will look good but it will not be good enough for member nations that have been building history for millennia before Nigeria materialized as they will end up as an European nation in West Africa if they are members of such a country. West Africa is not the only region on Earth to be briefly occupied by foreigners. For the Yoruba, less than sixty years of British rule should not be the determinant of their destiny.
CultureIgbo And Yoruba People Are Long Lost Relatives by TenQ(op): 5:13pm On Jul 12
I find it strange and amusing when online in Nigeria it seems that the rivalry between two ethnic groups of Yoruba and Igbo are always having tribal verbal wars which shouldn't be.

It seems from linguistics point of view, there are more similarities than differences. Check out the video attaches .

The five closest linguistic relatives of Yoruba in Nigeria, in order of closeness, are generally considered to be:
1.Itsekiri
2. igala
3. Edo (Bini)
4. Urhobo/Isoko
5. Igbo




Say no to tribal sentiments.
We can be greater than we are when we recognise that we share the same forefathers or foremothers
SportsRe: I Was Dropped By Rangers International Because I Wasn’t Igbo - Moses Simon by kingsavage: 11:38pm On Jul 10
LZAA:
Enugu rangers need to come and debunk this nonsense quickly
The annoying part of all these is that the player himself is from Benue, a state where igala igbos reside
To make matters worse Davidson Owumi was in charge of Rangers during this period so this nonsense would never have taken place
This is just a bunch of lies
Smh
dey play my fans
SportsRe: I Was Dropped By Rangers International Because I Wasn’t Igbo - Moses Simon by LZAA: 5:01pm On Jul 10
Enugu rangers need to come and debunk this nonsense quickly
The annoying part of all these is that the player himself is from Benue, a state where igala igbos reside
To make matters worse Davidson Owumi was in charge of Rangers during this period so this nonsense would never have taken place
This is just a bunch of lies
Smh
SportsRe: I Was Dropped By Rangers International Because I Wasn’t Igbo - Moses Simon by stagger: 4:03pm On Jul 10
owobokiri:
Get over it..
My cousin have tried to be recruited by Rangers for years but they never signed him. He is at Enugu as we speak, and he is a full blooded igbo btw. ..

That you became a good player later in life, doesn't mean you were good at the time you were with them. Rangers as a club has helped lots of non igbo players to the top.. As at today, a lot of their players and recent managers are not even igbos.

Taribo West is not igbo, he played for Rangers and became a Super Eagles player. The list is endless. Yall should get off the igbo mans dikc..
And to Moses and his cat legs..,Make we hear word ahbegi..
Rangers has a long history of non-Igbos who were starts in the club:

Emmanuel Okala (legendary goalkeeper of the 70s Rangers who won many trophies, who is an igala from Kogi state). His late brother Patrick as well.
Adokiye Amiesimaka (the most famous non-Igbo to play for Rangers). Later became Rivers State Attorney General and Commissioner for Justice.
Dotun Alatishe
Davidson Owumi (who later became the team's GM for many years)
Jude Agada
Taiwo Oloyode
Kazeem Ogunleye
Godwin Obaje (their current striker)
Ghanaians like the goalkeepers Nana Bonsu who was instrumental to their 2016 title run


Moses Simon is very daft. He is suffering from diminishing returns and is trying to stay relevant. Anything and anybody is trying to buy relevance and political capital by demeaning the Igbos. Nonsense!
CultureRe: Some Popular Idoma Names And Their Meanings by Jeje247: 9:28am On Jul 10
Ok
Revolva:
Not all idomas are from igala o, just few ...and they can be traced with their surnames and settlement ...in idoma land today
SportsRe: Michael Olise: The Black Football Star With Nigerian Roots Taking Over Europe by sharone21(f): 7:57am On Jul 10
A country like Brazil, you will see 2 mixed ( or 1 black and mixed parent) giving birth to 4 children, some whites, black and mixed....Very interesting country.

Now on Olise, the Ukwuani people who are: 70% Edo
28% igala
2%. Across the Niger especially Abbi( has the 1st 2 tribes as well) has STRONG bonds with their Urhobo & Isoko BROTHERS, including those at the Central part, Orogun.

Olise is an EDO word borrowed by those across the Niger especially with some ANIOMA/ Eze Chime people in Onitsha, Oguta, Ohafia( one Ohafia guy said they are not EDO people but from Ika, LOL), some Enugu areas too apart from returnees after the transatlantic era who remembered their way home.

Olise is from the gods of ANIOMA people ie ORISHA( Variant of the name: Olisa, Orise/ Oritse etc).....Their other gods: Olokun, Ogun, Idigun etc( called in their own languages)
CultureRe: Some Popular Idoma Names And Their Meanings by Sirianese: 1:45am On Jul 10
unite4real:
It's not Ugbede but Ngbede and it means happiness
Sorry I've checked it, Ugbede is actually an igala name
CultureRe: Some Popular Idoma Names And Their Meanings by Revolva(m): 9:56pm On Jul 09
Jeje247:
Idomas migrated from igala
Not all idomas are from igala o, just few ...and they can be traced with their surnames and settlement ...in idoma land today
CultureRe: Some Popular Idoma Names And Their Meanings by Jeje247: 8:10pm On Jul 09
ASArevivalist1:
Igalas bear most of these names too
Idomas migrated from igala
EducationRe: The Most Educated Children In Nigeria By Ethnicity - StatiSense by ReubenE(m): 3:48pm On Jul 07
lawani:
Why people don't agree with all this is you can hardly meet a Nigerian who has met more Ijaw than Akwa cross people or more Ijaw than Urhobo people and etc Which big city in Nigeria is under Ijaw control? I have never met an Ijaw person in Osun state. I have met maybe three Ijaws in total. One random student in OAU whose name I can't remember. He was my senior. One young man from Bayelsa who was a student at a private poly in Ife and a lady I met in 2001 or so when I was on IT in Owerri. Compare igala. I have met 4 Igalas. One was my classmate at OAU, one a bus driver in Ilesa, one a fruit vendor in Lagos, one worked with me in Lekki. I think one MOPOL posted to the company I was at in Lekki is also igala making five. There was also another that was our guard for a while in Ilesa, from his language he would be igala making six
From your story, there is proof that you are not an ordinary person but someone that has gained knowledge from academic training.

Now, seeing you base proof of population on the number of Ijaw people, Urhobo, igala, Ibibios you have personally seen is very shocking to me.

My long message that you responded to ordinarily should have discouraged this line of thought but no, you came back with more absurdity.

But lemme indulge you.

I have seen and met more Idoma people than I have meet Ibibio people despite the fact I am from the South-South but live in the South-West. By your logic, should I conclude that Idoma people are more than Ibibios?

I see you are even comparing Urhobo to Ijaws. I am actually tired.

Thank you.

But lemme tell you. You seeing Ibibios may not be unconnected to them popularly doing menial jobs outside their area - like house help, sales girls, cooking and all that.

Lemme go to your southwest. Ijaws are not just in your southwest. They don't reside in the southwest like the few Ibibios you said you have seen, in some, Ijaws are actually part of the structure of the state. They are aborigines in Ondo State with their local government and kingdoms. That is one state out of the six.

In Lagos, you don't just see Ijaws like you see Ibibios one or two at a place scattered. There are actually concentration of Ijaw areas.
I mean almost full communities of Ijaws concentrated at a place, from around Ikorodu, to Èbúté Mẹta axis, to Ojo, Badagry etc.

Then in Ogun State, the same thing.

They may not be so much in Osun State and Ekiti like they are fully concentrated elsewhere. So your basis for claiming Ibibio or Urhobo may be more than Ijaw is still faulty.

Are you aware that the Ijaw kingdom of Bille people are part of the structure of Adamawa state. Like Ijaw people who are indigenes of Adamawa.

Again, the only and official source of population data in Nigeria is the National Population Commission, and their data from the 2006 census makes Ijaw the fourth largest ethnic group in Nigeria.
Until there is another record from them, there is nothing you can do even if your feelings tell you otherwise
InvestmentRe: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by ositadima1(m): 1:57pm On Jul 07
lawani:
The figure for the SE also includes Yoruba, Hausa, Ijaw, igala and all others. The people on your land are your people and Nigeria is a federal republic, a union of states
That is correct. I was only trying to correct your impression that the Yoruba should have the upper hand because of census figures or the location of Nigerian-owned institutions. That is all.
InvestmentRe: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by lawani(m): 1:38pm On Jul 07
ositadima1:
The problem is that the SW and SE are geographical regions, not ethnic groups. A census measures people living in a geographic location, not their ethnicity. Therefore, if the figure of 55 million is correct, it includes Hausa, Igbo, Yoruba, and people from other ethnic groups living in that region. If a census were conducted based on ethnicity rather than place of residence, it is possible that the Igbo population could outnumber the Yoruba population.
The figure for the SE also includes Yoruba, Hausa, Ijaw, igala and all others. The people on your land are your people and Nigeria is a federal republic, a union of states
EducationRe: The Most Educated Children In Nigeria By Ethnicity - StatiSense by lawani(m): 11:41am On Jul 07
ReubenE:
I don't have time for this sir. Especially if your statistics is based on number of local governments.

Kano has 44 local government areas. Lagos has 20 local government area. Oyo State state has 33 local government areas. Your Ákwá Ibom has 31 local government area.

By your above logic, Kano, Oyo and Akwa Ibom etc are all more populated than Lagos since they all have almost twice the number of local governments Lagos have.
Is Ákwá Ibom more populated than Lagos since it has 31 LGA while Lagos has 20 LGA?

You are calculating number of local governments as metric for your population figure and mentioning only Bayelsa, that it has only 8 local governments. That is a very pedestrian logic for me especially since using that as proof of population.

Who told you Ijaws are only in Bayelsa?
Even in your Akwa Ibom, Ijaws are in about two local governments.
In Rivers, Ijaws have 11 exclusive local governments while sharing another two with Ikwere and others.
In Delta State, Ijaws are in 6 local governments and are the majority in Delta South.
In Edo, Ijaws are in 3 local governments of Edo South.
In Ondo State, Ijaws are in 3 local governments.

Though it means nothing in statistics but you see that even in the nonsense count of local governments as a proof of population, Ijaws still have more than Ibibios.

Finally, since you asked for a source, that I should bring my own even when you did not provide anything credible.

Go and check the National Population Commission census records of 2006. Ijaw is the fourth largest ethnic group in Nigeria.

National Population Commission is the only credible population data source in Nigeria.
If you disagree with them too, then I don't have anything to help you with again.

Maybe you will go and conduct your own census across Nigeria and publish the figures.
Why people don't agree with all this is you can hardly meet a Nigerian who has met more Ijaw than Akwa cross people or more Ijaw than Urhobo people and etc Which big city in Nigeria is under Ijaw control? I have never met an Ijaw person in Osun state. I have met maybe three Ijaws in total. One random student in OAU whose name I can't remember. He was my senior. One young man from Bayelsa who was a student at a private poly in Ife and a lady I met in 2001 or so when I was on IT in Owerri. Compare igala. I have met 4 Igalas. One was my classmate at OAU, one a bus driver in Ilesa, one a fruit vendor in Lagos, one worked with me in Lekki. I think one MOPOL posted to the company I was at in Lekki is also igala making five. There was also another that was our guard for a while in Ilesa, from his language he would be igala making six
CultureRe: Okonjo-Iweala With Igbo Masquerade Dancers On WTO Open Day In Geneva (vid) by Irony1: 10:16am On Jul 06
sharone21:
Lol

Northcote Thomas Wrote in his book,(page 38)that when the Oba of Idu joins his ancestors,every male from Benin to River Niger (Ohimi) shaves their head in respect.

Now,shaving of head at the death of a monarch is a culture we hold dear in most communities within the south-south region and some parts of south-west.

Nobody ever shaves their head for an oppressor,or a conqueror or a usurper or an imposed king.

All this land from Benin to river niger,was the land of the Benin king originally,the only other tribe who did come into this space were the igala people,their early presence is so true,because the Onitsha people (15th century)on their flight to their present land,were ferried by igala fishermen who they met at the banks of the Niger;not Igbo or Yoruba men.

The other group where the Y group who has a shared community with the Benin group on the now Odiani side.

That igala incursion and fishing expedition on the Ohimi was deemed sacrilegious as the Ohimi was the property of the Oba of Benin and was a deeply spiritual side now turned fishing pond.

It was primarily for the preservation of his sacred site,that issele-uku was created as a a military outpost to monitor the igala movement and also to continue the worship of the Ohimi river with relics to back it up,relics that are still in existence till date.


The story of Ezechima continues to wow me at every given time.

Now remember that Ezeh-Ise the father of Ezeh-Ikhime was a prince from the palace of Oba Olua of Benin in the 14th century. It was from there that he moved to Eko-Ofun; a Benin/ife confluence town and got introduced to the worship of the Yoruba deity Orisha.

It was from that moment that he picked up interest in the Y life and so named his child Ikhiwin;a term most Benin scholars has attributed to mean “A river”.(making reference to the deity which is of a water representation).

But it doesn’t end there with the Y words, Ikhime on the other hand,names some of his children with clear Y names in the 15th century,to his first and last son he names;Orisha and Olugbo which are presently called Onicha and Oligbo respectively.

Now it gets interesting,while Onicha as the first son,is named after the deity of his grandfather,(a move which clearly showed strength and leadership),the last child gets “Olugbo” a Y word (it carries its roots from the Ugbo dynasty of present day Ondo state,whose original home has been speculated to be from ile-ife) which can be likened to a term meaning “the King”.

Later in life,the last son who get a Kingly name,gets to inherit the father after a long tussle which ended at the palace of Oba Esigie of Benin in 1505,while the First son Onicha,dies while his father was still on the throne.

Tell me names don’t carry meaning!.
*Copied from Prince of Issele Uku kingdom.

Tell me how I know so much as a Benin person you are telling me, I, a DAUGHTER of the SOIL. Anyway, I'm PROUD to be an EDO descendant!

We have Obaseki ruling in IKA community. Our deities: Orisha, Olokun, Idigun, Ogun

If only you knew the extent of DAMAGE you have done already to Obi's political career. Anyway, Niger Deltans( ANIOMA, IKWERRE, OGBA, ETCHIE, OPOBO, IJAWS, AKWACROSS etc) whom you have heavily insulted and trying to impose your fake, distorted histories on will give una a SHOCKER.
Look no one has done any damage to Obi's career it is your hatred that is speaking. I am talking to you as a person no reference is made to Obi at all. This is a clear indication that you are not Anioma.

You are trying to distort history. The concept Idu was not coined by a British historian that is where your lies have caught you out. Again the British did population census based on ethnicity on a regional basis and not based on an area the term Anioma existed when midwest was created this is where your lies have found you out. The British themselves classed the inhabitants of the Anioma area at that time as Western Igbos.
So my Bini friend slow down when you want to lie.
CultureRe: Okonjo-Iweala With Igbo Masquerade Dancers On WTO Open Day In Geneva (vid) by sharone21(f): 9:53am On Jul 06
Irony1:
You are clearly either and Bini person pretending to be Anioma. Obviously your stats are clearly fake and concocted all to spread disinformation.
But you see your format is too predictable and clearly you have failed in the plot.
There has been no ethnic distribution in an area since after the 40s and it was the British that last did this and it was on a regional basis even at that time midwest was not existing. So your stats clearly is false and a concocted lie.
Lol

Northcote Thomas Wrote in his book,(page 38)that when the Oba of Idu joins his ancestors,every male from Benin to River Niger (Ohimi) shaves their head in respect.

Now,shaving of head at the death of a monarch is a culture we hold dear in most communities within the south-south region and some parts of south-west.

Nobody ever shaves their head for an oppressor,or a conqueror or a usurper or an imposed king.

All this land from Benin to river niger,was the land of the Benin king originally,the only other tribe who did come into this space were the igala people,their early presence is so true,because the Onitsha people (15th century)on their flight to their present land,were ferried by igala fishermen who they met at the banks of the Niger;not Igbo or Yoruba men.

The other group where the Y group who has a shared community with the Benin group on the now Odiani side.

That igala incursion and fishing expedition on the Ohimi was deemed sacrilegious as the Ohimi was the property of the Oba of Benin and was a deeply spiritual side now turned fishing pond.

It was primarily for the preservation of his sacred site,that issele-uku was created as a a military outpost to monitor the igala movement and also to continue the worship of the Ohimi river with relics to back it up,relics that are still in existence till date.


The story of Ezechima continues to wow me at every given time.

Now remember that Ezeh-Ise the father of Ezeh-Ikhime was a prince from the palace of Oba Olua of Benin in the 14th century. It was from there that he moved to Eko-Ofun; a Benin/ife confluence town and got introduced to the worship of the Yoruba deity Orisha.

It was from that moment that he picked up interest in the Y life and so named his child Ikhiwin;a term most Benin scholars has attributed to mean “A river”.(making reference to the deity which is of a water representation).

But it doesn’t end there with the Y words, Ikhime on the other hand,names some of his children with clear Y names in the 15th century,to his first and last son he names;Orisha and Olugbo which are presently called Onicha and Oligbo respectively.

Now it gets interesting,while Onicha as the first son,is named after the deity of his grandfather,(a move which clearly showed strength and leadership),the last child gets “Olugbo” a Y word (it carries its roots from the Ugbo dynasty of present day Ondo state,whose original home has been speculated to be from ile-ife) which can be likened to a term meaning “the King”.

Later in life,the last son who get a Kingly name,gets to inherit the father after a long tussle which ended at the palace of Oba Esigie of Benin in 1505,while the First son Onicha,dies while his father was still on the throne.

Tell me names don’t carry meaning!.
*Copied from Prince of Issele Uku kingdom.

Tell me how I know so much as a Benin person you are telling me, I, a DAUGHTER of the SOIL. Anyway, I'm PROUD to be an EDO descendant!

We have Obaseki ruling in IKA community. Our deities: Orisha, Olokun, Idigun, Ogun

If only you knew the extent of DAMAGE you have done already to Obi's political career. Anyway, Niger Deltans( ANIOMA, IKWERRE, OGBA, ETCHIE, OPOBO, IJAWS, AKWACROSS etc) whom you have heavily insulted and trying to impose your fake, distorted histories on will give una a SHOCKER.
CultureRe: Okonjo-Iweala With Igbo Masquerade Dancers On WTO Open Day In Geneva (vid) by Irony1: 9:34am On Jul 06
sharone21:
Where in ANIOMA are you from?

This is how you people pushed that Ukwunzu( Y) man with IdumujeUgboko mum of Royal Benin blue blood to political oblivion, now he has to rely on APC for appointments or if LUÇKY House of Assembly representing his people NOT ANIOMA people anymore.

FYI:
ANIOMA ABORIGINALS
70% EDO
15% igala
10% Y
5% Your people always claiming us, you are MINORITIES in our land. Even Ibusa with majority of the 5% still have Umu Eze Chime/ Edos
You are clearly either and Bini person pretending to be Anioma. Obviously your stats are clearly fake and concocted all to spread disinformation.
But you see your format is too predictable and clearly you have failed in the plot.
There has been no ethnic distribution in an area since after the 40s and it was the British that last did this and it was on a regional basis even at that time midwest was not existing. So your stats clearly is false and a concocted lie.
CultureRe: Okonjo-Iweala With Igbo Masquerade Dancers On WTO Open Day In Geneva (vid) by sharone21(f): 9:15am On Jul 06
Believeintruth:
8

Oga let us not start this rubbish argument. Anioma is fully Igbo 💯
This is why 2023 election votes given to Obi vs what he will get in 2027 will be SHOCKING.

FYI My people will not vote in anyone from across the Niger who has not significantly warned or stopped his foot soldiers from ALL the insults and distorted histories they peddled on social media and internet space including Wikipedia and Facebook.

Obi has never condemned your acts but knows how to speak against other regions.

Instead of us to vote in Obi or anyone with secessionist vibes, let the status quo remain.

We are NOT a subgroup of you people no matter if your voices seem to outnumber ours.

IKA: 85% EDO
15% igala & Y
*If you say IKA is 90% EDO you are still correct.

Ukwuani:
70% EDO
28% igala
2% from your place eg Abbi, even that Abbi has EDO & Igalas.
CultureRe: Okonjo-Iweala With Igbo Masquerade Dancers On WTO Open Day In Geneva (vid) by Believeintruth: 8:49am On Jul 06
8
sharone21:
Where in ANIOMA are you from?

This is how you people pushed that Ukwunzu( Y) man with IdumujeUgboko mum of Royal Benin blue blood to political oblivion, now he has to rely on APC for appointments or if LUÇKY House of Assembly representing his people NOT ANIOMA people anymore.

FYI:
ANIOMA ABORIGINALS
70% EDO
15% igala
10% Y
5% Your people always claiming us, you are MINORITIES in our land. Even Ibusa with majority of the 5% still have Umu Eze Chime/ Edos
Oga let us not start this rubbish argument. Anioma is fully Igbo 💯
CultureRe: Okonjo-Iweala With Igbo Masquerade Dancers On WTO Open Day In Geneva (vid) by sharone21(f): 7:42am On Jul 06
Believeintruth:
8

See them they have started another lie again. Onitsha people too emigrated from Benin, but they are igbos.
Where in ANIOMA are you from?

This is how you people pushed that Ukwunzu( Y) man with IdumujeUgboko mum of Royal Benin blue blood to political oblivion, now he has to rely on APC for appointments or if LUÇKY House of Assembly representing his people NOT ANIOMA people anymore.

FYI:
ANIOMA ABORIGINALS
70% EDO
15% igala
10% Y
5% Your people always claiming us, you are MINORITIES in our land. Even Ibusa with majority of the 5% still have Umu Eze Chime/ Edos
EducationRe: The Most Educated Children In Nigeria By Ethnicity - StatiSense by victoryenergy: 10:36am On Jul 04
JuanDeDios:
Are you sure they're more than the Fulani? Tiv? igala? Ijaw?
they are more than them, their rivals are the ijaws.
PoliticsRe: Why Did Ned Agree To Anim-oma State Instead Of Concentrating On Anioma State by DomPerignon(op): 7:56am On Jul 04
AlphaTaikun:
The Asagba of Asaba HRM Azinge, SAN, already affirmed (as seen in the recent rants of the boy in the video right BELOW) the historical igala paternal ethnic origins or descent of Asaba people and it's a FACT of history that Anioma folks are of multiethnic origins from Benin- Edo, Esan-Edo, Yoruba (Olukumi) in Aniocha North, igala, Nri, etc, so I wonder where this guy called Ned Nwoko and the 4 YouTubers he recruited and paid money to relentlessly propagate weekly online disinformation get their highly IRRESPONSIBLE audacity from? There is a group photograph posted online and hear on NL which Ned took with those hired propagandist YouTubers such as the ranting boy in the video below wearing braids.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mJMC2EiHIo?si=DR82AmGxueJ9zHam
You can see how that fake love facade quickly faded away after Anioma people rejected them and Ned's useless capitulation deal with Ohaneze and SE political figures.

Now they will insult Anioma people more than they do Ikwere who have since rejected them.

But the most disturbing is how they never ever respect other people's rights to self determination but want to control the destiny of others by swallowing them up using cultural genocide.
PoliticsRe: Breaking: President Tinubu To Create Nigeria Geo-Political Zone Bill 2026 by AlphaTaikun:
AhmedPeacemaker:
As of October 1 2026, Nigeria’s six geo-political zones will become official and constitutional organs of government.
This means that there will be four tiers of administration in Nigeria - Federal, Zonal, State, and Local governments

[2] Nigeria will have six geo-political zones, with each being made up of seven states. Our constitution will prohibit the creation of any more states after these 42

[3] As part of this restructure, we will abolish the federal allocation regime and replace it with resource control under which states will remain the federating units. Revenue distribution will be as follows - States: 50%; Federation account: 20%; Geo-political zones: 15%; National trust fund: 15%. We shall gradually migrate towards this to achieve our targeted goal by 2040

[4] Geopolitical zones will be responsible for maintaining regional police forces to augment the activities of the Nigerian Police Force

[5] Each geopolitical zone will be constitutionally obliged to generate, distribute, and transmit electricity within its domain

[6] Every year, the chairman of the geopolitical zone will rotate among the six governors within it. A chief executive will be appointed to manage what will be a civil service structure

[7] Ultimate authority for the governing of each geo-political zone rests with the committee of governors.
There will also be committees of commissioners to deal with matters such as education, health, housing, transport, security, etc

[8] Each geopolitical zone authority will be responsible for secondary specialist healthcare. They will build specialist hospitals in areas such as oncology, HIV/Aids, renal failure, dementia, reproductive health, dermatology, etc

[9] These will be the 42 states that make up the six geopolitical zones:

South-South
[1] Bayelsa State - Yenagoa
[2] West Izon State - Patani
[3] Rivers State - Port Harcourt
[4] Cross River State - Calabar
[5] Akwa Ibom State - Uyo
[6] Edo State - Benin
[7] Delta State - Warri

Northeast
[1] Mambilla State - Gashaka
[2] Taraba State - Jalingo
[3] Adamawa State - Yola
[4] Borno State - Maiduguri
[5] Yobe State - Damaturu
[6] Bauchi State - Bauchi
[7] Gombe State - Gombe

Southeast
[1] Anioma State - Asaba
[2] Orashi State - Omoku
[3] Anambra State - Awka
[4] Imo State - Owerri
[5] Enugu State - Enugu
[6] Abia State - Umuahia
[7] Ebonyi State - Abakaliki

North-Central
[1] Abuja State - Abuja
[2] Gurara State - Kafanchan
[3] Benue State - Makurdi
[4] Plateau State - Jos
[5] Nasarawa State - Lafia
[6] Kogi State - Lokoja
[7] Niger State - Minna

Southwest
[1] Odo Oya State - Ilorin
[2] Oyo State - Ibadan
[3] Ogun State - Abeokuta
[4] Lagos State - Ikeja
[5] Ondo - Akure
[6] Ekiti - Ado-Ekiti
[7] Osun - Oshogbo

Northwest
[1] Sokoto State - Sokoto
[2] Kebbi State - Birnin Kebbi
[3] Kaduna State - Kaduna
[4] Katsina State - Katsina
[5] Kano State - Kano
[6] Jigawa State - Dutse
[7] Zamfara State - Gusua

[10] If any state is unable to meet its running costs, its geopolitical zone is constitutionally obliged to step in and bail it out. If not, the federal government will declare a state of emergency in that state"
Southwest
[1] Odo Oya State - Ilorin
[2] Oyo State - Ibadan
[3] Ogun State - Abeokuta
[4] Lagos State - Ikeja
[5] Ondo - Akure
[6] Ekiti - Ado-Ekiti
[7] Osun - Oshogbo


Is the list above with Ilorin as the capital of Oda Oya State TRUE?

It BETTER be so.


However, Anioma State CANNOT be in the South East region because of the multiethnic origins of the Anioma people from Benin-Edo, Esan-Edo, Yoruba (Olukumis of Aniocha North who settled on their land first in Delta State located near the border with Esanland in Edo State), Igalas of Ebu and other igala-associated towns such as Asaba where the current Asagba of Asaba has affirmed Asaba's igala ethnic paternal ancestry from Kogi State,

The vast majority of Anioma folks agree with Anioma State creation BUT have long rejected being located in the South East of Nigeria. The Federal Government of Nigeria MUST take note of these FACTS and not rush things here. Period.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zwei84GNhA
PoliticsRe: Why Did Ned Agree To Anim-oma State Instead Of Concentrating On Anioma State by AlphaTaikun: 1:10am On Jul 04
DomPerignon:
The Anim-Oma state with Orlu as it's capital is why Ned Nwoko was rejected by his people.

Former Governor Okowa swung into action upon hearing that Ned Nwoko had agreed in a meeting with SE stakeholders to merge Anioma with Orlu state project and cede Asaba to Orlu as the new proposed capital.

While legislators from Delta North in the Delta State Assembly alongside Traditional rulers in Anioma all rejected merging Anioma to Orlu project, the Governor and entire State Assembly members of Imo had already drawn plans and set aside money to build a governor's house for the proposed Anim-Oma state.

The foolishness of Ned in agreeing to such rubbish instead of concentrating on creating a separate state for Anioma rather than agreeing to make Anioma people and Asaba second class to Orlu , was why Okowa swung into action and decided to ensure the deranged Ned Nwoko does not represent Anioma people ever again going forward.

Anioma people are not discriminated in their current state in Delta .

They have produced a governor courtesy of the rotation system in place.

Asaba is the capital of Delta state since it's inception and has received huge investments to ensure it is seen as one.

So what in God's name will make Ned Nwoko to agree to subscribe to Anim-Oma state and have Asaba lose it's capital status and see to Anioma people become a minority among a majority Ibos population?

Was the entire premise of Anioma state meant to charter an independent course for Anioma people?

Why then did Ned agree to the terms of Ibo politicians to join Anim Oma and lose everything including their own soverighty , identity, state capital ?

And for Ned to even think his people will agree to such capitulation shows how deranged he is.
The Asagba of Asaba HRM Azinge, SAN, already affirmed (as seen in the recent rants of the boy in the video right BELOW) the historical igala paternal ethnic origins or descent of Asaba people and it's a FACT of history that Anioma folks are of multiethnic origins from Benin- Edo, Esan-Edo, Yoruba (Olukumi) in Aniocha North, igala, Nri, etc, so I wonder where this guy called Ned Nwoko and the 4 YouTubers he recruited and paid money to relentlessly propagate weekly online disinformation get their highly IRRESPONSIBLE audacity from? There is a group photograph posted online and hear on NL which Ned took with those hired propagandist YouTubers such as the ranting boy in the video below wearing braids.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mJMC2EiHIo?si=DR82AmGxueJ9zHam
EducationRe: The Most Educated Children In Nigeria By Ethnicity - StatiSense by JuanDeDios: 9:32pm On Jul 03
victoryenergy:
Ibibios are the fourth largest tribe in Nigeria, but so many Nigerians won't agree.
Are you sure they're more than the Fulani? Tiv? igala? Ijaw?
PoliticsRe: Hausa Land Is Not Poor by Ofodirinwa: 7:52pm On Jul 02
lawani:
It is common knowledge. It is something you could have researched yourself

And I never said Hausa land. I said Northern Nigeria and a large part of Northern Nigeria is Hausa land
thanks, is this counting people buying cement from those plants and sending them to other parts of the country? It sounds like it is. Also, Hausaland is not the North. Hausaland is Hausaland. igala, TIV, etc are not Hausa
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