₦airaland Forum

BlueRayDick:
Did the cleaner make him a billionaire ?

Baba ur argument is premised on an entitlement mentality which should not be encouraged at all. If someone pays u 100% above the legal minimum wage for a job that doesn’t require any skill or certification, u should applaud that man and not criticize him.


I bet people working care job abroad don’t even get 50% above minimum wage despite operating in a developed economy

Oh...I can't really applaud someone as rich as osho giving put 60k to someone who has basic info about his movements...

It isn't worth it..my bro.....


Maybe I don't regard 60k the way you see it.. ...am sorry

afrodoc2:
Yeah, i think you are being emotional. What we should be focusing on is increasing the minimum wage and ensuring the law makes it enforceable in both the public and private sectors. Then focus on the more complex issues of job creation and tackling unemployment. Castigating someone who is paying way above market price for services is misdirected energy.

creating jobs and others would actually not guarantee d wage of an elite cleaner to be as low as 60k......


Do you think his cleaner would actually be ordinary..


The said cleaner is not ordinary as he/her would possess some skills,/mental readiness to tolerates temptations..

I personally see..cooks..cleaner and co as partial family that can easily be compromised when not happy ....

afrodoc2:
Cleaning is essentially a minimum wage job, and the guy is paying his cleaners 60k (double minimum wage) but you are still finding fault with it. Unless the cleaner has 4 hands there are no unique qualities to justify complaining about the 60k.

The salary you earn should be predicated mainly on your job description and what value the market places on your services. This your mentality is what makes domestic workers steal from and even rob their employers, since they believe oga has to share part of his money with them.

Aptly written.


But coughing out such an amount for someone who has info about your home isn't to cool considering your income.


Like I said earlier.....might be speaking from n emotional perspective

nihilistjnr:
For a cleaner?

a billionaire's cleaner

Melvyn11:
High personality, low personality ko. That's why the person is already receiving 60K. Now we don't even know if the cleaner is also being feed and housed on top.

60k is poor baba.

I understand your view about the huge amount

Melvyn11:
Mr man rest. 60k per month is a big salary for an ordinary cleaner and he will definitely have more than 10 employed. Thats without taking into account other domestic staffs(driver, security cooks etc). 60k is some teachers 3 months salary.

A cleaner working for a high personality like Osho is not ordinary my bro .

Do you think osho would just go in for any body without some unique qualities different from ordinary/basic??

izzou:
[color=royalblue] you are dragging him because 65k is small, then almost every billionaire and multi million should be on your list.

From our pastors, to philanthropist, politicians, i dont think they are many that pay a cleaner above 100k

Remember it is just a cleaner. There would be more cleaners, chefs and cooks, sous chef, nannies if there are kids.

Do the maths and he would be spending millions on paying salaries of house helps, excluding security.

Truly, it is your emotions bro. In Nigeria, 65k for a job of 25k is not bad[/color]

We can only drag anyone that came on air to justify such.....

You will not expect me to drag Davido or Oyedepo when actually I don't know what dey pay their "partial family".


The boldness at wch he justified d amount is worth criticising...

I know for sure that even if he had pegged d salary to around 20k per month,there definitely would be someone,somewhere that will be willing to take it with a "thank you remarks.......cos the country is fuucked

BlueRayDick:
LOL

That's entitlement spirit na. A cleaner job is not a skilled labour, u don't need to even have primary 6 certificate before u can work as a cleaner.

Anybody paying a cleaner 60k per month should not be condemned at all irrespective of his standing in the society. The minimum wage is 30k and the person has paid 100% above the minimum wage.

[b]Maybe Oshiomole was wrong to have bragged [/b]about it, but he has actually done well if indeed he pays cleaners that much.

My stand......


Personally,I think anyone working with personalities have much temptations than ordinary workers...

izzou:
[color=royalblue]So because you work for a billionaire, you must earn big money?

Anyways, this cleaner is earning big money too.

Compared to 20k for cleaners, she's earning 65k.

So, in the circle of cleaners, he/she is viewed differently. [/color]

Maybe I am being biased by viewing it from an emotional lens, but,I think there are some qualities that the said cleaner must have possesed wch isn't really uniformed with a "just cleaner" b4 he/she can be employed by osho.

In all honesty,trusting someone with your apartment (home) of a famous person comes with a greater responsibility than others..

If you earn 1m per month and as a result can't perform some home chores like cleaning...what do you think is reasonable to pay someone to do it,bearing in mind that this person has access to almost every part of your home even when you are absent for a long period.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]How much do you think he should pay the cleaner?[/color]

Anything less than 100k is not okay....

A 60k has no effect whatsoever in the life of such a cleaner who is viewed as being lucky to have access to Osho..

People working for u as an individual(billionaires) are viewed differently from those working in an organisation cos they are relatively close to you than mere visitors

Itsrm:
You have to first ask yourself how much cleaners are paid on average. In my experience, it's between 15 and 20k a month.

If he's paying 65k, I think it's fair.

It doesn't have anything to do with other cleaners .

It is all about a billionaires payment earmarked for a cleaner who was lucky enough to clinch the position...

My criticism actually is his boldness and justification of this meagre sum......

Itsrm:
Why is he a bastard when his cleaners are among the highest paid in the country. How many cleaners do you know who earn 60k monthly?

A certain bank increased the salary of its full staff. The contract staff asked for a raise and the bank told them what they are paid is already competitive across industry standard(slightly above 80k) so no raise. That is how it works.

Halogen security staff in Total are among the highest paid in PHC. They earn around 80k and you people are calling a man who pays cleaners 60k a bastard.

The irony is, some of you guys have maids and cleaners in your homes and offices and pay them 15k a month.

A cleaner for a billionaire is earning as low as 60k and you see nothing wrong in it baba ..


It is well

raumdeuter:
Him or the governor that said 8K monthly is too much will turn his people to billionaires and possibly misbehave who is the real bastardd?

Both are bastaards

monerozi5590:
Adams Oshiomhole. "What we have today is criminal wage not minimum wage"

And said his cleaners earn 60k per month with boldness..

Bastaard .

Theflint1:
You no go allow this man breef!

BlueRayDick:
DSS is a very useless organization

That are not useless.


They are tools that functions only on directives from "oga at the top"

Theflint1:
Not like it'd have made any difference, but

Osanobua...!!!

Shaytun:
Whatever makes you sleep better at night.

Oh no .


Our convo from d beginning has been hinged on 100 days in office....don't take it too extreme whenever anything comes up under the "100 days" tag..


I think,it just normal i bring it to your notice,so that you can either affirm or discard it as one of the "wows" you prophesied predicted..


No hard feelings bro............

Shaytun:
I wouldn’t know, I was not invited to the meeting.

And they didn’t make their discussion public.

Then,it is stupid to condemn what we know nothing about.....

As long as Asari had a discussion with the FG then it is important and valid to set up a military base..

Tinubu na baba strategist.



This is another positive in his "100"days in office ....

👏👏👏

Shaytun:
I have always been against non state actor.


Only one group should have the capability of extreme violence and that’s the government.

In other word,this is quite legit cos it might be one of the things they discussed in their close door meeting..

Talking about th gov n Asari.....

Shaytun..


Don't you have anything to say regarding the new "Asari militants military


Is it among the "wow"of 100 days in office

BlueRayDicks:
Segedinho now I understand ur para that day of the election when boys loyal to Obaseki scatter ballot box

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CvArFbStO2d/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

Obaseki na clown

BlueRayDick:
I thought this was an edited screenshot , I had to go check the guy up on Facebook .

He even wishes for the courts to order a rerun so he can correct his mistakes .

He also wants a viral opposition that is devoid of ethnic or religious sentiments .

Tough !😔

Reality is a "respecter" of no one

Small small....

TrebleChamp:
Renewed shege don reach him side 😁😁...

What do you expect

This one enter...

patrickmuf:
Why is this thing so difficult?

With the increase in allocation to the states, it means no state should complain again because the increment more than covers the resultant effect of the subsidy removal.

Now, the price of things has doubled in most cases but we have states earning close to x3 their usual monthly allocation so, it means we have to pause to begin to ask our respective State Governors what they are going to be doing with the excess of money given to them. We can not continue asking the FG to do it all if so, they shouldn't increase the state allocation.

I can imagine the Governors smiling to the bank and praying Nigerians don't look their way and continue holding the FG to provide what should normally be provided for by their state governments.

Let the Local and state government put to good use the allocation they are receiving and things will get a lot better.

Do u expect d allocation to bre thesame b4?

What today's allocation would buy in today's markets is roughly what state allocation of b4 would buy when the uselessness of naira was minimum...

If we weren't tasked to fucus on state gov then...why now??

larride:
Whatever it is you are arguing, you are the only one that knows because everyone knows dollars affect the prices of goods especially as we are an import dependent country.

The question I'm asking you is 1.9tr is useless in comparison to what? What figures are you looking at that's making you call 1.9tr useless?

Anyone who did economics in secondary school will know that inflation affects the time value of money. 1 naira in 2012 can never be the same as 1 naira in 2023, likewise $1 in 2012 is not the same value as $1 in 2023.

So saying we should hold our govs blokos n let d FG breathe is absolutely misnormal

larride:
What exactly is your own argument exactly because I don't understand.

If you divide the 1.9tr with the current exchange rate, you will still see an increase in the revenue for this month.

My hard feeling is based on the fact that he believe we don't earn in dollars and so have no biz with cost of goods even in the face of dollar rise

1.9tr is a lot of money in figures but has less purchasing power in reality due to naira's value as well as the effect of fuel hike in today's Nigeria market


1.9 would actually have thesame rating with billions of yesteryears when naira vs dollar was decent n fuel subsidised..........

So what is there to hold d blokos of the govt for when there was no excuse for Jonathan n bubu

Telling Nigerians to exclude the FG from d hardship just because he gave a less valued 1.9tr to the states is nothing less than being CORN-y

swiz123:
That guy up there saying that importers absorb increase in FX is a comedian. Car importers, phone importers etc simply do math with dollar Vs naira to arrive at their final price. Even custom is using dollar to calculate clearing cost of cars.

What kind of importer absorbs over 150% increase in FX? A charity organizations maybe.

Our resident agaba-economist

swiz123:
The answer is simple. We really heavily on importation. Anyone claiming not to know is being mischievous.

If we import fuel and the price increases due to falling naira, of course, our purchasing power is significantly reduced.

Apart from fuel, we also import almost everything ranging from Cars, electronics, fabrics etc.

Simple and straightforward..

Yah can't be defending naira vs dollars when our existence as a nation is dependent on importation..

How could you not fault dollar rise for the uselessness of naira purchasing power is beyond me...


Our agaba-economist is using S/K who depend less on importation to naira.......

They are jubilating over 1 9tr useless Nigeria naira and want us to hold the gov "blokos" because their wassap admins said so....

raumdeuter:
Official rate is govt subsidizing the rate

No more official anything go and source your dollar where everyone else does

What we save from subsidy we hand over to your governors. Go and hold them

So why must we hold the gov "blokos"this time around when floating d naira had made our currency 100% useless