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raumdeuter:
What causes this non accountability? It's because it's govt money that is being shared

NNPC will steal, oil marketers will steal, custom agent will steal etc you can now expend energy and resources on chasing everyone of them or just cut the supply

It's like exposed waste on the floor which attracts ants, cockroach, flies, rats and different rodents you can either chase all the individual rodents or just get rid of the thing attracting them

Same thing we are saying.....if we cannot control d theft done as a result of un-accountability ..what made u think these same politicians would be able to account for subsidy funds....

raumdeuter:
Subsidy creates opportunity to steal like this one you posted

As long as opportunity exists people will always find ways to bypass it

That's one of the reasons subsidies should be removed

This isn't about d subsidy but about accountability...


Are you saying Nigeria politicians can't pull a stunt of no accountability for subsidy money

Subsidy isn't an avenue to steal but accountability is...

Nezzjnr:
So since he's from there... He can talk about it.

Obi approving Shettima's statement is wrong??

How una dey follow these clowns dey converse abeg .

Even your fellow Apchit supporters go dey shocked with your level of reasoning

Baba.....


I weak

monerozi5590:
Northerners are saying calling poor is an insult and you are saying glorifying poverty. !

They are rejecting it. How do you even comprehend?

Good afternoon

Theflint1:
Mr Monerozi5590: As long that call happened on Saturday morning, actual conversation be damned, whatever agrees with my bias is what I'd believe took place in the call.

I still don't understand how he is trying differentiate d doctored and fake ish

MR Raumdeuter.

This is my fear as a Nigerian when we talk about fuel subsidy removal.

https://www.nairaland.com/7642597/nnpc-failed-account-n102bn-oil

I am seeking a job as a graphical analyst and due to GloriousGbola know how...i put calls through Maybe as much as I could for a guide..

One Saturday morning...a saga broke out Wch pointed to the fact that I was requesting for AK47 for some serious job...

Mr Monerozi5590..is it wrong to call d doctored AK47 convo being circulated fake??

monerozi5590:
You no renovate well.

Fake....... It didn't take place. It didn't happen.

Doctored....... It took place. It happened but it was altered, manipulated.

I think Obi has called several elites before and after d election

He has called pastors..sultans and emirs too...

Did d call happened YES..........

Did a call went to Oyedepo as well....YES

Was a call maneuvered?...if yes can't we call d maneuvered/doctored call ....fake??

GloriousGbola:
yes - because saint peter obi is incapable of lying

our very own george washington
a politician who cannot tell a lie

someone is lying here, so who is it - peter obi, or his aides who spoke first, or PT and PG?
and of course we have oyedepo, the curse master, who has not denied the call either


trust me bro it wasn't me.

There is a reason I brought that script out....If Nihilistjnr hasn't said anything about Obi's response...I wouldn't have brought it up here.


Was he wrong to make a phone call

I think the brouhaha is the context of d call......so in all IMO he confirmed there was a call as stated by his spokesmen but the content was totally not his.......


My personal opinion

nihilistjnr:
He didn't deny that the call happened.

He described the recording as doctored, and said he has never called the election a religious war. You cannot doctor something that does not exist.

As far as I'm concerned, he's only echoing what his two media spokesmen said, which is that the call recording was edited out of context.

My point was always around countering the asinine suggestion that the call recording was an AI generated deepfake.

Bishop Oyedepo never denied the call happened.
Peter Obi never denied the call happened.
Two of Obi's official spokesmen asserted that the call happened.

For these reasons, I am satisfied that the conversation did indeed happen, and that Obi was actually yes daddying away as heard. I have never been opposed to the idea that the call was edited - whoever leaked the call obviously intended to cause damage to Obi and thus is unlikely to baulk at the idea of editing the call the make it sound good.

But there's a difference between the argument that the audio recording is an AI generated Deepfake implying the conversation never happened, and the argument that recording was edited out of context, which implies it did.


See below for my original post on the matter

I only drew your attention cos u wanted him to say something about the phone call.


Doctored or fake are cobsidered as flaws.....he has every right to call anyone and say something but when it is being doctored to serve a purpose...It becomes invalid and d accused victim innocent..

In summary,you're not saying he did exactly what the agendists are saying but there was a call....right

If true...is there any wrong on calling oyedepo..kumuyi..sultan and suleiman?


I think the AI saga came into context cos it can also be used to manipulate...

There can be a call on different issue and the AI would be used to transformed the conversation.....

Nihilistjnr.....


Peter has tweeted about d "yes daddy" phone call as demanded

https://mobile.twitter.com/PeterObi/status/1643698718820950021

seankafor:
world bank sef na mumu.. na Dem dey contribute to all these lootings wey dey happen..

Why Dem go approve such loan to this corrupt gorvenment?

Politics at play

liveLongNprospa:
This is new when it comes to him
. But once again na you know am since university

I am not saying it is fake.....but I won't be surprised if it happened to be photoshopped cos the Morris I know was damn too sleeky back then

E belike say them want to talk another story again.

https://www.nairaland.com/7642028/fg-gets-800m-world-bank

liveLongNprospa:
Lmao.. Capable of what izzou said or capable of placing that bet.
Coz that guy comes from a rich family

Capable of manipulating....

liveLongNprospa:
Morris monye?

Morris is capable of such.


He was my coursemate from 100 to 500L

Na ogun go kill havertz o

I think this research on d leaked audio is detailed...

https://mobile.twitter.com/democracy_watch/status/1642609702461747200

Emaprince:

I swear ..I no understand the post at all......

Sorry o

Is firefighting truck this expensive??cos it seems a single truck cost about 1.2b from d calculation

Just commissioned 10 Firefighting trucks, total cost of over 12Bn Naira. More to come in due course. Safety has been the Buhari focus in Aviation, since 2015. Hitherto FAAN has not bought new trucks in 15 years. https://t.co/aQExi85A4h pic.twitter.com/0YBrewAnGd

— Hadi Abubakar Sirika, CFR, FRAeS, FNIA (@hadisirika) April 2, 2023

Please o..

Is firefighting trucks this expensive? cos it seems a single truck costs about @1.2b

Just commissioned 10 Firefighting trucks, total cost of over 12Bn Naira. More to come in due course. Safety has been the Buhari focus in Aviation, since 2015. Hitherto FAAN has not bought new trucks in 15 years. https://t.co/aQExi85A4h pic.twitter.com/0YBrewAnGd

— Hadi Abubakar Sirika, CFR, FRAeS, FNIA (@hadisirika) April 2, 2023

The formation is just zigzag..
.belike.


Chilwell n Loftuspreek naim b d wingers why havertz mudryk n Felix dey play 9

larride:
Ehn ehn tell me more.

I mean...it will take only a madman to defend the speech or try find meaning to it

OasisX:
.... so called Eze should be taken to Custody by DSS and ban by Lagos State Government from ever parading himself as Eze again.

The Ezes should be dealth with if his utterances/nods violates laws..

I was referring to the threat itself

larride:
You see how the usual suspects are ignoring this post? 😂

The speech is self destructive and not worthy of debate


IMO

Never wanted to talk on politics but this cracked me up...

Osas comedic display is topnotch






https://mobile.twitter.com/osazenoo/status/1641780818992300038

iamoyindamola:
So many times i read news about footballers that is how i remember their ages because the journalist will always write the name and age beside it.

American n British English comes to mind

I taught there shouldn't be a coma after d name b4

nihilistjnr:
Why would you wear hijab to write entrance exam to a school literally built on church premises?

Like brahhh

Can they go to their local mosque without the same hijab on?

Oh...I taught it was just a random school

hopefulLandlord:
It was covenant

Oh

The bad blood is much.

Religion width is getting wider