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Olu317:
It is contrary to what you have in your mind, because I am not passionate about my culture only but a messenger of the ancient order of the world,whom is regarded as the light of God, that created heaven and earth,who is known as ele-dumare,eledaa,eluron,ela is my passion.

Interestingly, there are alphabets order in advancing my course ,which the western Researchers classified as classic Hebrew lettering found in Sinai around 1900s. Depsite the present day yoruba alphabets, which is fashioned after latin ,still retained its semitic origin. Though the present day Yoruba's alphabets, in written form is fashioned after Oyo's accent which has no effects on the major dialects of Yoruba people as a whole

Even the Oyo accent isn't a classical Yoruba dialect but the Eastern Yorubas dialects remained the basis for any tangible research, though Oyo is a part of all Yoruba enclave. This is the reason I smiled when you thought Oyo is all in all because oyo isn't. Oyo is actually a later kingdom,after Ufe land,Owu land Sabe,Popo,Óba,Idanre etc.


Ufe of 10 thousands years being claimed isn't of Western Africa because no known Yoruba DNA is traceable to west Africa. Beside, Egypt's chronology which is the prideof Africa isn't even 10 thousands years old.Therefore, claims as being spread by Yoruba chronologist is inconsistent. But my claim tally with Mesepotemia and Egypts claim era as the period of Yoruba people's history.

Olu317:
Please do because, I am a bit learned on the subject matter you posited,even if I know that Yoruba migrated from Middle East through Nile Valley then to Yoruba land in different migration Waves,which some Yoruba scholars doubted because of lack of ‘assumably evidence'. This migration of this yoruba is about +-5,500 years ago in totaling. Again,let me share one more example with you

1. Wu is also(desire/want ) and does not mean,‘ rise'.

5. Sín or sen is a later created word for worship. The classical Yoruba word for worship is :

Bó: ( worship).


Again, you kept inferring on what you don't know. Trust me the first Odudua was a priest who cast lot(ifa). Today,Araba is the over title of the highest priesthood lineage in ‘lot cast' ,who are known as Olifa, Onifa, Adafa,Adifa. Contrary to your assertion,the descendant of Oduduwa who became a king used the their ancestors name as a Title . So, the actual Odudua wasnt alive during Islamic uprising but his descendant. Now,there was a JEWISHman who was king during the era of Islam around Araba,who persecuted both christians and Islmaic preachers. Kindly google on it or get the book about this event in middle East.

Secondly,Ifa initiate is actually for descendants of Odudua,Obatala etc. Importantly, Ifa is a pathfinder to thr descendants of Odudua,which is the reason for ypu to do more research on Àbó Oré/ Moré / Oré in Yoruba land so that you will realise that Oré worship is not affiliated to Islamic religion.If you need consult middle East on the same subject matter,then kindly find out who worshipped and what happened in Mount More-Moreh-Moriah in Hebrew's early years.


Note: Peradventure, you are a lecturer who intend to write about Yoruba people and in need of information, then I can refer you to some few people on here.

Olu317:
What you compared had been done by me in the past. So, it is not ancient Egyptians language but Coptic Egyptians language. So, If you desire to know more about ancient Kmt,then do great study .


Anyway,Kudos to you for these post but you can actually do better because :

1. Wu in Yoruba is (uproot). . And apart from this definition, the diacritic on it determine the pronunciation and its different meanings. Besides, the others you mentioned do have in them different meaning as well. Too numerous to mention for me.


On other postulations , you are actually day dreaming on Yoruba religion as it regard Islam. Kindly read up reason Islamic war broke out between Ilorin Yorubas and other Yorubas.So don't be ignorant!

KingSango:
This post is dedicated to our brother and ancestor Sultan Osman Bey Emperor and Founder of the Ottoman Empire


Greetings,


No love lost from people who turn back. I love the words of Prophet Muhammad PBUH, who advises the Muslims not to turn back. Hypocrisy is what some engage in who take up this struggle who are cult members. You can not be a Man of God if you have to obey your cult leaders, and do you really know the leader of your cult since it's a secret? If they are all on t.v and radio with a message against the system then they are accepted as members of a cult. The issue is such men and women have their tongues tied by a blood oath and as such can not speak with integrity. They must promise not to reveal such things or spill the beans on tightly guarded secrets. They must not attack other members of any cult so that their own cult secrets be not revealed. So what are they permitted to say? They have to mix truth with falsehood effectively creating a new string of lies to unravel. Like for instance, Masons have to acknowledge NASA's fake moon landing just to talk about rockets. They have to talk about the Jews and blame the middleman for spreading LGBT and the homosexual agenda yet never if ever mention the Roman Catholic Church's involvement. They don't want to be blacklisted although the entire African civilization has been blacklisted. That is how come we have been labeled Black and under law considered less than human, animals even. Many African Freemasons go along with this although in their lodges they teach something different. Well it doesn't matter what truth they speak in the lodge they can never share it with you. So what good are they?

So here are 10 Masonic Secrets


1 The Earth is flat and goes on indefinitely beyond Antarctica providing for other worlds far beyond the Ice Wall

2 There is a dome of electrical radiation that prevents any object from leaving this world physically possible

3 All heavenly bodies are lights and energy vortexes and this how astrologers and magicians fuel spells


4 There is no outer space Space is made of water which is how the sky appears blue in fact this is how the ancient Egyptians depicted the heavens Many African leaders are buried under dome ceilings to symbolize their understanding this mystery Some have domed palaces, domed mosques, churches and temples,


5 Human history is millions of years old and civilizations have come and gone like people are born and die everyday So history is so far back it's like who cares as time is infinite with no beginning or ending

6 Human beings come in different species including Angelic humans called Bachwezi or Annunaki the mothers and fathers of all African indigenous people worldwide
Plus human hybrids mixed with animal DNA which are the people mixed with ape, chimp, dog and other species by the ancient Gods


7 Human beings received their knowledge and technology from angels aliens physical beings who are very tall, wooly haired, thick lips and flat noses, darkskin with big heads through secret societies who used it to build ancient and modern world

8 American means copper toned people and although not ancestrally African the African American and the African European have the same indigenous DNA Africans were the original people created by the Gods They are descendents of ancient Nubians and Malians who built civilization in Mexico

9 Islam is mathematics and mathematics is Islam yet not to be mistaken with Orthodox Islam True Islam is ancient Sufi Gnosticism from North Africa
All languages are numbers and if you can't count then you can't read

10 Angels and Demons exist as beings from a higher dimension or lower with higher technology than our own They can manipulate, influence and determine the outcome of our reality


These are some of the secrets hidden from the uninitiated


The Fallen Angels are behind the spread of sodomy which is devil worship or evil God reverence on Earth


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjamShWKYJM



PAstor Darby The Gay Agenda is about Roman Illuminati cults spreading satanic faith around the world

One of the few who gets it Pastor Darby will be missed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSA6UMlrwsk

Opiletool:
Ooooh you don't wanna engage that dude.

morpheus24:
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Olu317:
Well, I don't expect you to care because you don't know much of these things. Kindly allow me to pass these information to you and your likes as follows:

1. Horus of egypt was worshipped in Egypt but isn't related to Yoruba's mode of worship because Horus remained nothing to Yoruba cosmology except being known in Yoruba language as Ooorun( sun).

2. Where did you get it that Oya is the most powerful Orisha? Wonders shall never end. Kindly study the actual the Oya in Yoruba's cosmology and compare her with Ori before you conclude because you are wrong! The greatest orisha is Ori; Eledaa is what you need Sir. Plainly the Eledaa(creator) is the most powerful Orisha.

3. The light bearer is Ela; Orunmiela( heaven broke forth and light descended) and not your view. That's the Yesu(Hebrew) and Esu(Yoruba). He is called the prince of mid air in Ifa corpus and onibode òrun(entrance to heaven)

4. Find out more on Olokun,Osun,Esinmirin history in Yoruba legends,so that you will realise that there many waters in Yoruba cosmology.

5. Sufism, is known but not from Egypt but of Arab's origin, which was brought into existence by prophet muhammed. Islam herself originated in Mecca and Medina at the start of the 7th century, which i600 years after the founding of Christianity. Do you know not the archeological evidences of Sphinx? Please save me your view

6. Look at your ignorance? Ram is a no go area for sacrifices in ancient Egypt but a must for Yoruba sacrifices. How do you relate these two culture that seeemingly look alike in the surface with each other but different on ritual? Ifa is ephod; lot cast. And not of any Egyptian origin.

7.oduddua-obatala,obawinrin etc isn't the bone of contention. Even a German professor once constructed the migration patterns of Yorubas in folds.So it is not the fundamental here.

8.Interestingly, the people you thought are aborigines of the land are also migrants. Well,show us the tradition of these people that existed at par with non yoruba.In actual fact, Ife didn't exist ,likewise Ooni didn't. You can context it. But the truth is there for all to see

9. Quran is fashioned in the like manner of Bible,which involves prayer. Many of these accounts that one need close relationship with Eluron(lord-God) are found in the Ifa corpus (verses found in Ifa).

10. Pedophiles are as evil as any other crimes committed by mankind. Reason being that God want humans to be sin free and be able to communicate at ease with him.

Olu317:
No one detested sango but only hated by those who are envious of his mystical powers and his furry because he was a temperamental mortal that lived and died,which actually meant Élú Ko so(king or lord didn't hung on the tree). Unfortunately some people coopted sango into Oranfe's alike personality; light of the vast land in ancient Yoruba worldview which is God in English and created a myth around him.

Again, you need to understand that the most significant among the elements of life to Yoruba cosmology is associated with water and not fire......It is even in the ritual (incantation) words which says,‘ omí ni pá oro ina( the fiery fire is subdued with water),which clearly showcase the importance of water than fire

Despite the fact that no people on this surface of the earth own sango but Yorubas and not a king of sun because Yoruba have no king of the sun in our tradition or mythology. So the thundering force that was exhibited by sango to fight can and has been curbed since time immemorial,so Yoruba know the intricacies that is involved and not what you think as it seems before you.No one can take a way what is of Yoruba origin.

Lastly, the religion of Yoruba's isn't Islam but of older religion of ancient Hebrew. Please, kindly research Yorubas Èsù— oni ibodè orùn( saviour,guidance and entrance personality to heaven,who allows any mortal that God permit to enter) versus Hebrew's Yesu( saviour,entrance to heaven who is through one can enter heaven). After studying these two personalities ,then you will realise,Islam was given birth to through ancient Hebrews religion at the time Aramaic was spoken in the land of Araba and through its original foundation, which is Yoruba religion that came through Ifa—ephod. And ifa—ephod came through Yoruba's orun-mi-ela and the ancient Hebrew urim-ela.These words both are cognates. Both identify with,’ to cast lot'


Cheers

morpheus24:
How the name came to be alludes to its meaning and I did not accuse anyone of anything related to colonialization. You need to stay on point when arguing. Too much information is not always a good thing. SMH

Olu317:
Kindly revisit what you posted at first in Hebrew's alphabets on your position on so that you can understand.because you whimp up sentiments as if Egypt was Yoruba? like I have mentioned earlier, you blundered on the alphabets of ancient Hebrew because there are differences in some letters of Hebrews that didn't fit into Kemet-Egypt alphabets.


Contrary to your view, sango was not as you portrayed him because he fought for security of his people and abhorred lies,which made him very confrontational with those close to him,even with his own flaws. Please don't confuse yourself over sango's personality. You aren't close to him nor related to his ancestral bloodline.

Unfortunately, you got it wrong because I seek no glory of my own but posit my ancestors as who they wre and mot egocentric people who did their things as creator had ordained them. Yorubas don't represent Africa but the WORLD.... YORUBA LANGUAGE IS THE RITUAL LANGUAGE GOD SPOKE TO ABRAHAM!



Cheers

Olu317:
Kindly revisit what you posted at first in Hebrew's alphabets on your position on so that you can understand.because you whimp up sentiments as if Egypt was Yoruba? like I have mentioned earlier, you blundered on the alphabets of ancient Hebrew because there are differences in some letters of Hebrews that didn't fit into Kemet-Egypt alphabets.


Contrary to your view, sango was not as you portrayed him because he fought for security of his people and abhorred lies,which made him very confrontational with those close to him,even with his own flaws. Please don't confuse yourself over sango's personality. You aren't close to him nor related to his ancestral bloodline.

Unfortunately, you got it wrong because I seek no glory of my own but posit my ancestors as who they wre and mot egocentric people who did their things as creator had ordained them. Yorubas don't represent Africa but the WORLD.... YORUBA LANGUAGE IS THE RITUAL LANGUAGE GOD SPOKE TO ABRAHAM!



Cheers

Olu317:
I have no intention to proof anything to you or anyone else on egocentrism but to inform on accurate Hebrew words discovered since 1905 because this platform cut across the globe. So, I don't know where ‘nun' stand for water in ancient Hebrew except it is not Hebrew pictograph's you inferred . In actual fact, if you are kingsango then you blundered beyond redemption because the hebrew picture of nun is ‘SEED' which has been transcribed as Continue,Heir, Son.

There is no need for self defence because you blundered on ‘nun', and If you seek whaetever first language as your own ‘nun', then it is not ancient Hebrew, which was what was posted by kingsango. So therefore, I hope you won't let pride get hold of you since there are 1000+ people who know more than you and I in this world we live in . Hitherto, don't posit as if you are correct.. Interestingly, you are Afrocentric and am not because my-our own ancestors(ancient Yorubas),known as ‘gods' —orisha, know no colour but have respect for well behave people they encountered.




Cheers.

Olu317:
I have no intention to proof anything to you or anyone else on egocentrism but to inform on accurate Hebrew words discovered since 1905 because this platform cut across the globe. So, I don't know where ‘nun' stand for water in ancient Hebrew except it is not Hebrew pictograph's you inferred . In actual fact, if you are kingsango then you blundered beyond redemption because the hebrew picture of nun is ‘SEED' which has been transcribed as Continue,Heir, Son.

There is no need for self defence because you blundered on ‘nun', and If you seek whaetever first language as your own ‘nun', then it is not ancient Hebrew, which was what was posted by kingsango. So therefore, I hope you won't let pride get hold of you since there are 1000+ people who know more than you and I in this world we live in . Hitherto, don't posit as if you are correct.. Interestingly, you are Afrocentric and am not because my-our own ancestors(ancient Yorubas),known as ‘gods' —orisha, know no colour but have respect for well behave people they encountered.




Cheers.