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Laxra:
MORE WINS. IF YOU CANT JOIN THEM BEAT THEM.

Hairyrapunzel:
You said that it is only your Jehovah that knows who he will destroy and who he will save. I just showed you that otherwise. Your organization has passed judgement already as they know who will be saved and who will be destroyed.

don't try to cover up your inhumane beliefs

Are you telling me that it i not thesame Jehovah that was responsible for 1950s and recent publications? Or you are saying they are different? Or your Jehovah is a Jehovah of adjusted beliefs or your Jehovah is just
confused? I showed you new publications 2016 and you didn't comment on that

Have a nice time dreaming of where your Jehovah will destroy the earth, billions i.e. human government and people who do don't pay allegiance to watchtower organization aka non jws including their children so that millions (jws) will inherit earth

Hairyrapunzel:
Continue preaching that the human government will be destroyed and your God will kill billions of non jws while the world becomes a better and peaceful place.
Because you want to pet pandas in summer in your paradise you want your God to come and destroy the earth and kill billions

Did I ever tell you I was looking for answers? And why should I look for answers in your organization when you said they always adjust their answers. What is false today will be true tomorrow

Hairyrapunzel:
Continue preaching that the human government will be destroyed and your God will kill billions of non jws while the world becomes a better and peaceful place.
Because you want to pet pandas in summer in your paradise you want your God to come and destroy the earth and kill billions

Did I ever tell you I was looking for answers? And why should I look for answers in your organization when you said they always adjust their answers. What is false today will be true tomorrow

Hairyrapunzel:
We are not talking about whether the human government will make the world a better place
You said your God will kill people just because they didn't join watchtower organization and follow their rules.

The human government is trying at least they have helped more people on this earth than watchtower organization. Human government consist of humans who are compassionate and who show empathy

I don't know why you are engrossed with human government being destroyed and billions of humans being murdered

Russel taze came said world was going to end in 1914 he died of heartbreak in 1916 Rutherford, knorr, franz, henschel etc were waiting for the end to come and their Jehovah to destroy the earth and kill billions they all died of heartbreak

The 7 men in New York are still preaching the end is near and they built new headquarters. Well they will still wait for the destruction and heartbreak will kill them when it doesn't come the cycle will continue

Hairyrapunzel:
Your Jehovah will kill billions to save millions smh8.5 million alive and 8.5 billion dead. So at every corner you will be encountering dead bodies in your new system?
Does that seem like a loving religion with a loving God?

Hairyrapunzel:
Millions of lives are saved but billions of lives are lost because your Jehovah killed them

Stop sugar coating your beliefs. The great crowd is even in heaven so I wonder where you get your belief that your Jehovah will kill billions because they are not jws and don't follow watchtower organization rules so that millions of jws will inherit the earth when he did not say such in the Bible. such a loving Jehovah

Hairyrapunzel:
If Catholics adjusted their views on their own bible teaching you will openly criticize them in your magazine calling them false religion and say they are false prophets.
Don't you think is hypocritical of you to judge them when you know you still do thesame thing?

So people who died before they adjusted their bible teaching died in error right?
Russel taze, Rutherford, Nathan knorr died in error right?

Till tomorrow you still teach that joining watchtower organization is the only route to salvation you hide this belief from people cos you know people won't find this belief funny cos it isn't biblical

You know why I started quoting you because you said jws knock on doors because destruction of earth is close

Hairyrapunzel:
If Catholics adjusted their views on their own bible teaching you will openly criticize them in your magazine calling them false religion and say they are false prophets.
Don't you think is hypocritical of you to judge them when you know you still do thesame thing?

So people who died before they adjusted their bible teaching died in error right?
Russel taze, Rutherford, Nathan knorr died in error right?

Till tomorrow you still teach that joining watchtower organization is the only route to salvation you hide this belief from people cos you know people won't find this belief funny cos it isn't biblical

You know why I started quoting you because you said jws knock on doors because destruction of earth is close

Hairyrapunzel:
Hmmmm your normal style of asking your questions and answering them in a deceitful way why saying thesame thing

From this first answer you ain't still giving the answer
You are saying those who died before the centuries jw was formed i.e. Before the 19th century will be resurrected and have an opportunity to be saved i.e. If they see they can cope with jw rules they will be saved if not they will die with other non jws




Read the whole chapter of acts 24 you misquote the Bible. Still God or Paul did not say you will survive Armageddon only if you are a jw or belong to any organization



You are saying many people living now may decide to join watchtower organization and gain salvation. It is still thesame thing we are saying according to you people the end is near and your Jehovah will destroy non jws the only way you will survive this is by becoming a jw and joining watchtower and also obeying its rules and regulations.



From your publications below it Says judgement has been placed already

"Of this historical preview of Armageddon, the Bible says: "For just as the days of Noah were, so the presence of the Son of man will be. For as they were in those days before the flood, eating and drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark; and they took no note until the flood came and swept them all away, so the presence of the Son of man will be." (Matthew 24:37-39) So the circumstances relating to the end of our world order at Armageddon will be similar to those associated with the ancient Deluge. They will be: (1) The planet Earth and its animal life will survive; (2) the significance of our times is missed by most people through preoccupation with the normal processes of life; (3) the majority of mankind take no note of the divine warning of Armageddon; (4) hence the majority of mankind will be destroyed at Armageddon; and (5) only a small minority of mankind will find favour with God and survive the "war of the great day of God the Almighty."" From Kurukshetra to Armageddon - and Your Survival pp.17-19


"Why should not blood run deep and far with over two billion [the world population in 1955] dead?.... With the members of this generation that will not pass away before Armageddon breaks out numbering now two billion five hundred million and with only the remnant and a larger group of "other sheep" inside the Greater Noah's "ark" surviving, the death toll of the "war of the great day of God the Almighty" will be appallingly all-surpassing, too many for the Armageddon survivors to bury. Come on, birds and beasts! Have your fill then from the human corpses in retribution for the wanton slaughter of animal and birdlife of which the human race has been guilty!" You May Survive Armageddon Into God's New World 1955 pp.340-342

"As for humans upon earth, on the side of Jehovah will be all those fully dedicated to him and who are faithfully following Jesus Christ; compared with earth's billions these are indeed few.... On Satan's side will be all the rest of mankind, more than 99.9 percent, even as we read: "The whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one." That includes all the governments of the world together with their supporters, the commercial, religious and social institutions.... Armageddon will be the worst thing ever to hit this earth in the history of man." Watchtower 1958 Oct 15 pp.614-615

"Yes, today, with Armageddon staring us in the face, we must keep in mind the sobering thought that millions, even billions, of lives may shortly come to a swift and decisive end, putting their onetime owners beyond the reach of any expression of love on our part." Watchtower 1965 Apr 1 p. 212

Hairyrapunzel:
Hmmmm your normal style of asking your questions and answering them in a deceitful way why saying thesame thing

From this first answer you ain't still giving the answer
You are saying those who died before the centuries jw was formed i.e. Before the 19th century will be resurrected and have an opportunity to be saved i.e. If they see they can cope with jw rules they will be saved if not they will die with other non jws




Read the whole chapter of acts 24 you misquote the Bible. Still God or Paul did not say you will survive Armageddon only if you are a jw or belong to any organization



You are saying many people living now may decide to join watchtower organization and gain salvation. It is still thesame thing we are saying according to you people the end is near and your Jehovah will destroy non jws the only way you will survive this is by becoming a jw and joining watchtower and also obeying its rules and regulations.



From your publications below it Says judgement has been placed already

"Of this historical preview of Armageddon, the Bible says: "For just as the days of Noah were, so the presence of the Son of man will be. For as they were in those days before the flood, eating and drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark; and they took no note until the flood came and swept them all away, so the presence of the Son of man will be." (Matthew 24:37-39) So the circumstances relating to the end of our world order at Armageddon will be similar to those associated with the ancient Deluge. They will be: (1) The planet Earth and its animal life will survive; (2) the significance of our times is missed by most people through preoccupation with the normal processes of life; (3) the majority of mankind take no note of the divine warning of Armageddon; (4) hence the majority of mankind will be destroyed at Armageddon; and (5) only a small minority of mankind will find favour with God and survive the "war of the great day of God the Almighty."" From Kurukshetra to Armageddon - and Your Survival pp.17-19


"Why should not blood run deep and far with over two billion [the world population in 1955] dead?.... With the members of this generation that will not pass away before Armageddon breaks out numbering now two billion five hundred million and with only the remnant and a larger group of "other sheep" inside the Greater Noah's "ark" surviving, the death toll of the "war of the great day of God the Almighty" will be appallingly all-surpassing, too many for the Armageddon survivors to bury. Come on, birds and beasts! Have your fill then from the human corpses in retribution for the wanton slaughter of animal and birdlife of which the human race has been guilty!" You May Survive Armageddon Into God's New World 1955 pp.340-342

"As for humans upon earth, on the side of Jehovah will be all those fully dedicated to him and who are faithfully following Jesus Christ; compared with earth's billions these are indeed few.... On Satan's side will be all the rest of mankind, more than 99.9 percent, even as we read: "The whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one." That includes all the governments of the world together with their supporters, the commercial, religious and social institutions.... Armageddon will be the worst thing ever to hit this earth in the history of man." Watchtower 1958 Oct 15 pp.614-615

"Yes, today, with Armageddon staring us in the face, we must keep in mind the sobering thought that millions, even billions, of lives may shortly come to a swift and decisive end, putting their onetime owners beyond the reach of any expression of love on our part." Watchtower 1965 Apr 1 p. 212

Hairyrapunzel:
But you saw 2006 and 2001. have they been changed too? I actually took those from different years and they all say thesame thing

It's like you people like changing your beliefs th

There are billions of people who do not know Jehovah. Many of them in ignorance practice things that God's Word shows to be wicked. If they persist in this course, they will be among those who perish during the great tribulation." Watchtower 1993 Oct 1 p.19

These are from recent publications

"An even greater mistake would be to allow the faults of others to stumble us and cause us to leave Jehovah's organisation. Were that to happen, we would lose not only the privilege of doing God's will but also the hope of life in God's new world." Watchtower 2016 Jun study ed pp.25-26

"Really, our survival involves being devoted to Jehovah God and learning about the kind of conduct and deeds that please him. (Zephaniah 2:3) Rather than following the majority today and ignoring the clear signals that we are living in such important times, we need to “keep close in mind the presence of the day of Jehovah.” Jehovah’s Witnesses can show you from the Bible how you can be a survivor of this upcoming day." Watchtower 2015 May 1 p.8

"If we stop actively supporting Jehovah's work, then we start following Satan. There is no middle ground." Watchtower 2011 Jul 15 p.18

"But Jehovah's servants already belong to the only organization that will survive the end of this wicked system of things." Watchtower 2007 Dec 15 p.14

Explain these recent publications then still looks like they have always preached thesame message

Hairyrapunzel:
It is not thinking this way it is knowing what happens

Hairyrapunzel:
Explain the following

"In effect, Jesus also conveys Jehovah’s voice to us as he directs the congregation through “the faithful and discreet slave.” (Matt. 24:45) We need to take this guidance and direction seriously, for our everlasting life depends on our obedience." Watchtower 2014 Aug 15 p.21

"During the final period of the ancient world that perished in the Flood, Noah was a faithful preacher of righteousness. (2 Peter 2:5) In these last days of the present system of things, Jehovah's people are making known Gods righteous standards and are declaring good news about the possibility of surviving into the new world. (2 Peter 3:9-13) Just as Noah and his God-fearing family were preserved in the ark, survival of individuals today depends on their faith and their loyal association with the earthly part of Jehovah's universal organization." Watchtower 2006 May 15 p.22 "Are You Prepared for Survival?"

"Is it presumptuous of Jehovah's Witnesses to point out that they alone have God's backing? Actually, no more so than when the Israelites in Egypt claimed to have God's backing in spite of the Egyptians' belief, or when the first-century Christians claimed to have God's backing to the exclusion of Jewish religionists." Watchtower 2001 Jun 1 p.16

"Similarly, Jehovah is using only one organization today to accomplish his will. To receive everlasting life in the earthly Paradise we must identify that organization and serve God as part of it." Watchtower 1983 Feb 15 p.12

Hairyrapunzel:
Explain the following

"In effect, Jesus also conveys Jehovah’s voice to us as he directs the congregation through “the faithful and discreet slave.” (Matt. 24:45) We need to take this guidance and direction seriously, for our everlasting life depends on our obedience." Watchtower 2014 Aug 15 p.21

"During the final period of the ancient world that perished in the Flood, Noah was a faithful preacher of righteousness. (2 Peter 2:5) In these last days of the present system of things, Jehovah's people are making known Gods righteous standards and are declaring good news about the possibility of surviving into the new world. (2 Peter 3:9-13) Just as Noah and his God-fearing family were preserved in the ark, survival of individuals today depends on their faith and their loyal association with the earthly part of Jehovah's universal organization." Watchtower 2006 May 15 p.22 "Are You Prepared for Survival?"

"Is it presumptuous of Jehovah's Witnesses to point out that they alone have God's backing? Actually, no more so than when the Israelites in Egypt claimed to have God's backing in spite of the Egyptians' belief, or when the first-century Christians claimed to have God's backing to the exclusion of Jewish religionists." Watchtower 2001 Jun 1 p.16

"Similarly, Jehovah is using only one organization today to accomplish his will. To receive everlasting life in the earthly Paradise we must identify that organization and serve God as part of it." Watchtower 1983 Feb 15 p.12

Hairyrapunzel:
I get your point very well and stop the whitewash of your forthcoming Armageddon we know you think your Jehovah plans on killing billions including children and those that have never heard of him
who are the wicked? who are the governmental power? clearly these people are not part of your organization

The earlier you realize the world is made up of happy and kind non jws people the better for you. Though you have bad people e.g. Terrorists, robbers, rapist, pedophiles, murderers etc I am aware there are rapists pedophiles, robbers and murderers among Jehovah witness too so you see that all over the world there are bad and angry people the number of good and happy people far outweighs the number of bad and angry people.

You want a government that provides basic amenities to be destroyed by your Jehovah because they are not Jehovah witnesses that doesn't sound like a loving God and a loving religion to me

Your Jehovah will rather choose death for his followers and their children than allow them have a blood transfusion. He will allow parents shun their children because they left their religion. He will kill people during Armageddon because they celebrated birthday Christmas Easter thanksgiving birthdays he will kill people because they voted or joined the army or he will kill people because they have worldly (aka non jw) spouses or friends. He will kill people for not joining an organization called watchtower when he did not state it in the Bible.
Sounds like an angry, confused and a sadistic Jehovah to me

brocab:
Now you are funny" firstly the verse given {Mark 9:38-39} was to say-don't knock others when we are doing the will of God, just as well as you JW's think you are doing-The apostle John rebuke someone preforming miracles in Jesus name, only because that someone wasn't walking with them, but Jesus had pointed this verse out very clearly to them,-saying anybody who does a miracle in My name-can-not speak evil of Me.
And this is why I gave this verse to the JW's, we may not be walking with you, but it doesn't mean we aren't spreading the truth of God to the nations either. Plus you JW's believe you have all the answers, you believe you are the only ones saved, Jesus made it clear, who are saved and who is not saved-one must be born again before he can enter into the Kingdom of God. Are you saved?
And my words to be black listed is a word I myself use-who ever comes to my door either the JW's or the Mormons-trying to be pushy as they are, not allowing myself to have a say-yes we can either close our doors-or they can listen to me point out scriptures from their own bibles, the NWT bible gives us the truth, who Christ is.
I just love the fact the JW's won't push their own bible-but use the King James as a their tool to push their twisting.
The JW's are confused who they worship, New World Translation bible say's this,[Revelation 22:18-21] I am bearing witness to everyone who hears the words of this prophesy of this scroll: if anyone makes an addition to these things, "God will add" to him the plagues that are written in this scroll; and if anyone takes anything away from the words of the scroll of this prophesy, God will take his portion way from the trees of life! and out of the Holy city, that are written about in this scroll, the One who bears witness of these things say's "Yes" I am coming quickly,"' Amen Come, Lord Jesus."
[ Revelation 22:12, 21:6] Look I am coming quickly, and the reward I give is with Me, to repay each one according to his work, I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.
[Verse 21:6] And He said:to me, "They have come to pass! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end, to anyone thirsting, I will give from the spring" of the water of life free.
The New World Translation bible knows who Christ is-but sadly enough the JW's don't know. This is their argument standing at the door, and do they come back? "No".

Hairyrapunzel:
So in other words you are looking forward to when your Jehovah will come and kill 99.9% of the worlds population ie billions will die and 8.5million will survive and inherit the earth and after that vultures will eat the dead bodies of the billions your Jehovah has slaughtered and the reason your Jehovah gives for this his mass genocide is because the billions refused to pay allegiance to watchtower organization . Very interesting

So you mean the good news Jesus talked about in the Bible was that Armageddon is fast approaching and we should join watchtower organization to be saved?

brocab:
I just tell them I am a Christian, usually I give them a verse {Mark 9:38-39} Teacher we saw someone casting out demons in your Name, and he was not one of us, so I rebuked him.
{Verse 39} But Jesus said, do not stop him, for anyone who preforms miracles in My name is not against us.
Jesus said do not judge one another.
I ask the JW's to look up {Mark 9:38-39} and come back with an answer? Do they come back? No my Home is black listed.

jammer777:
I really Don't understand what it is u're trying to achieve by not bn able to answer simple/short questions here. You came here to introduce to us what u've bn doing to have consistent results, yet you can't seem to educate us fairly here. Are u trying to get traffic for the other forum?
You claim not to want anything cos u're giving this FOC. If i may ask, what is the end product of the traffic u're indirectly marketing?

Kindly try to defuse the above notions humbly.

shreck:
I don't think I recommended indicators at all. I may describe or recommend a trading strategy or system. I can always respond to you easily on forex-station use my thread there. I usually discourage folks from doing binary options in the short-term. I do not believe I ever mentioned 1tm expiry,but I will take you at your word. I will chat there, you may kindly head over to PTL THREAD

shreck:
Hi please let me have the username you registered with.

Regards

Ginaz:
I don't like going outenjoy it as I feel pressurized when all jw youngsters go out in the field ministry. I always got it at the back of my mind it's not right for a young child to go out to preach, what do they know yet?

Jesus didn't preached at a young age instead he went to the temple to gain more knowledge and he was in his thirty's when he started his earthy ministry and also got baptized.

All Jw take their children out whether the child doesn't want it or not. Worst part is they put pressure a lot on them to get baptized early even when they are in their teens(what do they know yet?)

And also not everybody are supposed to go out..(the Bible made that clear that some will be teachers, apostles, evangelists, preachers for perfecting the work of the ministry ephesians 4:11-16) but why do all J.w go out?

These are questions and many others i ask but no satisfactory answers.

Why do you go out and give people watchtowers and awake but you don't collect theirs.?

Why do they have to write reports(was that scriptural? )

In fact I have lots of questions that need answers. Anyway, religion is personal, you have to worship God and not a religious doctrine.

Achimaechi:
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Good luck.