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Jovi10:
When you're tired you'll stop debating with that dude. He will keep going round in circles and drain you of your intellect without learning anything from you. He's not ready to learn he's just defending his visa.

obedience4:
Someone one brought Al Qaeda up, I wasn't conversing with you in the first place, the quote you mentioned me I was discussing the origin of Al Qaeda via the Mujahideen resistance with someone else, and when you mention me you wrote Al Qaeda in your write up. So stop trying to play smart.

What a pity that your evidences is a simple subjective analysis from an unknown clown, and series of pictures saying US made weapons ended up with ISIS

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I could also bring up media evidence and narratives to say the earth is flat

obedience4:
can't you read, you are not a student of history

isis became well know after they started beheading aid workers live, before that they were already fighting in Iraq, and took Iraq territory, they have never been dormant this is common knowledge

it was after the civil war in Syria started, they exploited the issue and move from northern Iraq into Syria, a normal human being won't allow its territory to taken thus bring the government force's loyal to Assad against isis. Isis was a common enemy.

kai your 3 point is stupid, the US led coalition started the war against isis, and the usa bombed isis right from Iraq to when they got to Syria, this are common knowledge I don't know why you are being deliberately stupid.

The USA had a number of allies in Syria especially the kurdish forces, and yes some of its weapons would have fall in wrong hands,that's true it was a major war, nation's were pushing weapons to their allies in the region, not just US weapons alot of other nations weapons found its way to ISIS's, they were either captured or sold by US allies, that doesn't makes the US a founder of ISIS'.

The USA coalition pushed isis from Iraq, not Iran.
Isis was a threat to Iran,the leader came out to say they were going to take Iran after Iraq, Iran was only protecting its interest, the US kurdish led coalition was the major reason isis is virtually non existence today not iran.


Your screenshot means nothing, I could come out and write the US is funding Niger delta avengers and give my reasons, someone wrote an article here saying the USA created boko haram and provided silly screenshots

obedience4:
comprehension is your biggest deficits, your article quoted the Iranian revolutionary guard saying isis attacked Iran on isreali guardianship

How dose that statement makes the US the creator and funder of isis??

I don't understand you man, I seriously don't.

Lawag3:
Coming from a person that says Jews are just a religion. How ironic.

If you like rewrite history.

I won't say anything about this again.

Some ignorant people should just be left as they are.

obedience4:
please I don't have the time for this, there is no single evidence that the US funded or created isis,
Isis made gains first in Iraq not Syria, yes they took advantage of the Syrian civil war but saying the USA created ISIS is plain stupidity

there was a number of countries supporting different group's during the civil war in Syria
turkey, Iran. UAE, Russia, the US, Saudi Arabia,and Iraq etc, All supported one side or the other during the Syrian civil war.

during the cause of the war, weapons both from the USA and other nations did fall into the wrong hands, that's inevitable that's how war usually plays out especially localised war.

Saying because US made weapons later turn up into terrorists hands means the US funding isis is outright nonsense, an isis group which roots can be traced back to Jordan from the early 1990s.

concerning Trump statements, trump is known for saying nonsense, he once stated that obama who is a Christian, is secretly a Muslim, Trump has also falsely stated the president was born in Kenya when he was, in fact, born in Hawaii. Trump is know for his rhetorics.

In your next correspondence with me, I would love you to support your bogus claims with solid evidences or proofs that the US indeed created and funded ISIS.

obedience4:
please I don't have the time for this, there is no single evidence that the US funded or created isis,
Isis made gains first in Iraq not Syria, yes they took advantage of the Syrian civil war but saying the USA created ISIS is plain stupidity

there was a number of countries supporting different group's during the civil war in Syria
turkey, Iran. UAE, Russia, the US, Saudi Arabia,and Iraq etc, All supported one side or the other during the Syrian civil war.

during the cause of the war, weapons both from the USA and other nations did fall into the wrong hands, that's inevitable that's how war usually plays out especially localised war.

Saying because US made weapons later turn up into terrorists hands means the US funding isis is outright nonsense, an isis group which roots can be traced back to Jordan from the early 1990s.

concerning Trump statements, trump is known for saying nonsense, he once stated that obama who is a Christian, is secretly a Muslim, Trump has also falsely stated the president was born in Kenya when he was, in fact, born in Hawaii. Trump is know for his rhetorics.

In your next correspondence with me, I would love you to support your bogus claims with solid evidences or proofs that the US indeed created and funded ISIS.

obedience4:
please I don't have the time for this, there is no single evidence that the US funded or created isis,
Isis made gains first in Iraq not Syria, yes they took advantage of the Syrian civil war but saying the USA created ISIS is plain stupidity

there was a number of countries supporting different group's during the civil war in Syria
turkey, Iran. UAE, Russia, the US, Saudi Arabia,and Iraq etc, All supported one side or the other during the Syrian civil war.

during the cause of the war, weapons both from the USA and other nations did fall into the wrong hands, that's inevitable that's how war usually plays out especially localised war.

Saying because US made weapons later turn up into terrorists hands means the US funding isis is outright nonsense, an isis group which roots can be traced back to Jordan from the early 1990s.

concerning Trump statements, trump is known for saying nonsense, he once stated that obama who is a Christian, is secretly a Muslim, Trump has also falsely stated the president was born in Kenya when he was, in fact, born in Hawaii. Trump is know for his rhetorics.

In your next correspondence with me, I would love you to support your bogus claims with solid evidences or proofs that the US indeed created and funded ISIS.

obedience4:
please I don't have the time for this, there is no single evidence that the US funded or created isis,
Isis made gains first in Iraq not Syria, yes they took advantage of the Syrian civil war but saying the USA created ISIS is plain stupidity

there was a number of countries supporting different group's during the civil war in Syria
turkey, Iran. UAE, Russia, the US, Saudi Arabia,and Iraq etc, All supported one side or the other during the Syrian civil war.

during the cause of the war, weapons both from the USA and other nations did fall into the wrong hands, that's inevitable that's how war usually plays out especially localised war.

Saying because US made weapons later turn up into terrorists hands means the US funding isis is outright nonsense, an isis group which roots can be traced back to Jordan from the early 1990s.

concerning Trump statements, trump is known for saying nonsense, he once stated that obama who is a Christian, is secretly a Muslim, Trump has also falsely stated the president was born in Kenya when he was, in fact, born in Hawaii. Trump is know for his rhetorics.

In your next correspondence with me, I would love you to support your bogus claims with solid evidences or proofs that the US indeed created and funded ISIS.

obedience4:
please I don't have the time for this, there is no single evidence that the US funded or created isis,
Isis made gains first in Iraq not Syria, yes they took advantage of the Syrian civil war but saying the USA created ISIS is plain stupidity

there was a number of countries supporting different group's during the civil war in Syria
turkey, Iran. UAE, Russia, the US, Saudi Arabia,and Iraq etc, All supported one side or the other during the Syrian civil war.

during the cause of the war, weapons both from the USA and other nations did fall into the wrong hands, that's inevitable that's how war usually plays out especially localised war.

Saying because US made weapons later turn up into terrorists hands means the US funding isis is outright nonsense, an isis group which roots can be traced back to Jordan from the early 1990s.

concerning Trump statements, trump is known for saying nonsense, he once stated that obama who is a Christian, is secretly a Muslim, Trump has also falsely stated the president was born in Kenya when he was, in fact, born in Hawaii. Trump is know for his rhetorics.

In your next correspondence with me, I would love you to support your bogus claims with solid evidences or proofs that the US indeed created and funded ISIS.

Lawag3:
The question still stands. I did not say the Crusades were only against Muslims .

Did I?


I said it started as a response to Islamic aggression Muslims taking former Christian lands. Which is a fact.


The crusaders fougth more battles against the Muslims than other religions put together.


Don't change history to suit your narrative.

Lawag3:
When did I say Crusades were only against Muslims? I even said in one post they fought pagans in Europe.


The primary reason for the start of Christian Crusades was as a response to Islamic aggression. If the Moslems haven't conquered christian lands christians would not have gone to war.


And this is know by every historian.

Lawag3:
The Crusades were a response to Islamic expansionism from the backwaters of Yemen and Saudi Islam invaded christian Syria, Turkey, Egypt, Lebanon,Armenia entered Europe took Spain took Eastern Europe they took all of this Trough wars and conquest turn formally christian lands to Muslim territories.

The Christian crusaders were looking to take back those land. Remember the Muslims attacked first.

Betscoreodds:
Exactly government that are majorly Christians did those crusades not children of God.

obedience4:
post=131003197]Zionist supporters, how can you explain this?

Menachem Begin, who later became prime minister of Israel, was a wanted terrorist.

You people need to stop following media narratives and start analysing history realistically.


Young man think before you write, before the creation of the state isreal he was A leader of a militant group fighting against the British government controlling then Palestine he and others were instrumental in the creation of the Jewish state, he was declared wanted by the British government/b].

[b]There is no evidence of him tag him to that bombings

obedience4:
stop wasting your time with that guy, he doesn't know that countries like Egypt and Syria were once epi-centers/ stronghold of Christianity

The war fought against extremists Islamist was a war borne out of survival, the whole thing we know as Christianity would have been a thing of the past forgotten to history if not for the crusaders campaign.

Lawag3:
The Crusades were a response to Islamic expansionism from the backwaters of Yemen and Saudi Islam invaded christian Syria, Turkey, Egypt, Lebanon,Armenia entered Europe took Spain took Eastern Europe they took all of this Trough wars and conquest turn formally christian lands to Muslim territories.

The Christian crusaders were looking to take back those land. Remember the Muslims attacked first.

The word infidels were used by Muslims to describe non Muslims christians used the term sinners.


Oya which bible verse told them to attack and kill muslims. Bring it out let's see.

Lawag3:
OK verify this facts

Palestinians have carried multiple terrorist attacks on Egyptians true or false

Lawag3:
In the same day Jesus was arrested and Peter used his sword Jesus rebuked him saying those who live by the sword die by the sword.


In the other I post the whole verse Jesus was telling a story it was the man in that story that said that.

Christians understand this stuff to be either parables or Metaphorical sayings


Show a Christian that will interpret those verses as kill people of other religions or sinners.


There is a reason even in the Quran Isa (Jesus) is known for peace.


This a political thread not a religious one.

If you're to stupid to differentiate between metaphors and literal saying then you're on your own.


It still doesn't change the fact that the Quran tells Muslims to kill infidels Jews and Christians where ever you may find them.

Lawag3:
A simple google search would have cured your ignorance.

Lawag3:
After the staunt they pulled in Lebanon and Jordan any sensible person will support Israel.


E get why Egypt build a fence blocking gazans from getting to Egypt.

Palestinians carried out terrorist attacks on Zionist .. Sorry Egyptian soil. You check am na

Lawag3:
Sorry WritterNG I'm about to turn this thread into a religious thread.



First of all you dont understand metaphors

Turning the other cheek does not mean literally turning the other cheek . It like saying kicking the bucket is literal.

So before we all go out and start a Christian arms race, it might be worth noting that about an hour later Jesus said to the disciples: “Put your sword back into its place. For all who take the sword will perish by the sword” (Matthew 26:52 ESV) when Peter go slice person ear.

For this and many other reasons most commentators understand Jesus as speaking metaphorically in Luke 22:36-37. Matthew Henry for example says:

This is intended only to show that the times would be very perilous, so that no man would think himself safe if he had not a sword by his side. But the sword of the Spirit is the sword which the disciples of Christ must furnish themselves with. Like in Ephesians christians are told to put on the armor of God which includes a sword which is the word of God.

Read further the deciples even brought two swords to Jesus and Jesus seeing they misinterpreted what he said was like e done do.

On the other one


In the book of Luke chapter 19 verse 27, Jesus says, “But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.” Does this mean that Jesus wants Christians to kill off non-believers?
He told a story about a king who ordered the execution of some people who tried to overthrow his government. How is it even possible to interpret that as an order for Christians kill off non-believers?

Okay, I know how it’s possible. You were on some website where some atheist pulled this quote, presented it out of context, and told you that it was Jesus ordering his followers to bring his enemies before him and slay them. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but that website was lying to you.
Jesus said “all who do not want me to rule over them, bring them before me and slay them in my name” (Luke 19:27) but people view Him as an extremely good person. Is it just ignorance, or does He get a free pass because He was the son of God?
Well, let’s see what this passage is actually saying, shall we?

Jesus was approaching Jerusalem with his followers, and Jesus has just been through an experience in which he had invited Himself over to a man named Zacchaeus’ house (who had been trying to meet him but couldn’t for the press of the crowds around Jesus. And in thinking about this circumstance and the fact that His followers were discussing the anticipated coming of the Kingdom of God, he tells the following parable.

Luk 19:11 And as they heard these things, he added and spake a parable, because he was nigh to Jerusalem, and because they thought that the kingdom of God should immediately appear.

Luk 19:12 He said therefore, A certain nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom, and to return.

Luk 19:13 And he called his ten servants, and delivered them ten pounds, and said unto them, Occupy till I come.

Luk 19:14 But his citizens hated him, and sent a message after him, saying, We will not have this man to reign over us.

Luk 19:15 And it came to pass, that when he was returned, having received the kingdom, then he commanded these servants to be called unto him, to whom he had given the money, that he might know how much every man had gained by trading.

Luk 19:16 Then came the first, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained ten pounds.

Luk 19:17 And he said unto him, Well, thou good servant: because thou hast been faithful in a very little, have thou authority over ten cities.

Luk 19:18 And the second came, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained five pounds.

Luk 19:19 And he said likewise to him, Be thou also over five cities.

Luk 19:20 And another came, saying, Lord, behold, here is thy pound, which I have kept laid up in a napkin:

Luk 19:21 For I feared thee, because thou art an austere man: thou takest up that thou layedst not down, and reapest that thou didst not sow.

Luk 19:22 And he saith unto him, Out of thine own mouth will I judge thee, thou wicked servant. Thou knewest that I was an austere man, taking up that I laid not down, and reaping that I did not sow:

Luk 19:23 Wherefore then gavest not thou my money into the bank, that at my coming I might have required mine own with usury?

Luk 19:24 And he said unto them that stood by, Take from him the pound, and give it to him that hath ten pounds.

Luk 19:25 (And they said unto him, Lord, he hath ten pounds.)

Luk 19:26 For I say unto you, That unto every one which hath shall be given; and from him that hath not, even that he hath shall be taken away from him.

Luk 19:27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

This story, and the concluding statement, which you have quoted, [b]is not Jesus saying this about himself, but is the statement of the Master in His story. [/b]The Master is God, who has given money (referred to as talents here) to His servants, who are us humans. The money he has given us is the faith we have to do what God gives us to do and be. Jesus is saying that God gives us faith in order that we use this faith to do certain things. The servant who made certain that he did not lose his money in any sort of speculative business venture is the religious person who thinks that merely having faith in God is enough, and does not understand the obvious, that God gives us faith to serve him (principally by loving others). And merely holding this faith in God is not anything like good enough for God.

He tells his followers this because he has just made a gesture of love and forgiveness to a man considered repulsive to most Jewish people of that day, a publican (who was considered something of a collaborator with the occupying Roman army). And in making this gesture of forgiveness, or mercy, to this reprehensible person, Jesus notes that Zacchaeous repays the faith this gesture instilled in him by wholeheartedly repenting. He repaid all the money He had corruptly taken from people, giving back to them four times as much money as he had taken from them, and also gave the rest of his money to the poor. Yet, the religious people of Jesus day, saw Jesus make friends with this repulsive man and murmured against Jesus saying He made friends with a sinner. Jesus responds that He has come t save the lost.

Lawag3:
Being a Jew by convention doesn't qualify you to own land in Israel.

Jews were in the land before 1000 BC

Jews have always been in the land out of fairness the land was divided.


But no from the river to the sea.


Did you Palestinians of Gaza had Egyptian birth certificate . While those of the west bank had Jordanian certificate explain that.

No they were citizens of the land you don't give refugees birth certificate and passport. You don't let refugees lead the national team.

Lawag3:
The words of the founder of Christianity love your neighbor as you love yourself. Is you're slapped turn the other cheek. Love your enemies. Remember christians are to be like Christ.


The words of Mohamed

Kill the infidels kill the Jews where ever you may find them. Make them pay jizra. Cut off the heads of the infidel. Spread terror


Ask me for the Sarah verses.


From the mouth of Mohammed himself.


Anybody who commits violence except for the defence of oneself is wrong. It just that violence to non Muslim is one of the tenets of Islam.

Lawag3:
What genocide? Palestinian population continue to grow despite the genocide.


Their brothers the Palestinians nearly disposed of the Jordanian mornachy for not being Muslim enough. One of the reasons why no Arab nation is willing to allow the Palestinians into their country.

Lawag3:
Mr you too know book who then are the Canaanites. Ask google.


Remember Canaanites are groups of different people.

Lawag3:
You for quote me na. Just go to google and type are Israelites Canaanites.

When I used the word Jews I meant ancient Jews (Israelites)

Lawag3:
I agree with that statement America has been know to support the wrong people at times just to make sure their enemies loss.

Like for example supporting the muhajeen fighters against the USSR the muhajeen later became the Taliban.


But let's talk about Israel. Iran wants the complete destruction of the state of Israel. During that war israel supported the Iranians. What do you have to say about this.

obedience4:
You are dull boy, Liberia that was started as American colonization society project
The entity know as present Egypt has already been in place before the British came.

If Russia would defeat Ukraine and occupy Ukraine, 50years from now fools like you will say Russia colonized Ukraine.

According to your foolish reason, Japan colonized China.

Even Ethiopia was occupied by Mussolini's Italy for good five years, Are we going to say Ethiopia was colonized because at a point was under the Italian rule.

Go take your medication boy.

obedience4:
Colonisation and occupation are two different things
Egypt as a entity was established long before the British empire was formed Same as the Ethiopian empire.

"China was occupied by by the Japanese imperial empire but wasn't colonized by Japan.

go take your medication 💊, stick to your copy and paste news.

airhead.

obedience4:
I was making a similar point some time ago,
Our forefathers blamed colonialism for their woes, our fathers blamed colonialism for their woes this present generations is still screaming colonialism when other nation's have left us behind

The USA was once colonised by the British empire, but rose up to become more powerful than its colonial masters , China was under occupation by the imperial Japanese empire but rose up to become a major player in today's world

Singapore got independence almost the same year as Nigeria, also a formal British colony in the early 70s Singapore was a third world country, fast forward to today Singapore 🇸🇬 is a first world nation,an among the Asia tigers, Nigeria or Africa wasn't the only country or continet that suffered colonialism how come other's have developed and we are still in the same spot.

if care isn't taken the next african generations coming will still blame colonialism for the underdevelopment of the continet

Egypt and Ethiopia are two african countries never colonised, are Egypt and Ethiopia among the biggest powers in the world today if colonialism is the basis to gauge development.

Your comment is one of the best I have read on this forum in a while now bravo 👏

obedience4:
stop using it now since it was forced on you

Go take your meds