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This is unfortunate, the sort of issues lead to war. The Syrian war claims another Russian victim. Killing civilians and labelling then terrorists will only produce madness like this. Let's hope the those using unrestrained force finally begin to show some restraints.

This is pure crap. ... Which kind nonsense be this.

Rilwayne001:
So in aphorisms, you support killing those who depict the prophet in form of cartoon??

I think you should be ashamed of yourself sir. If you are seeking something from the op it shouldn't robbed you of decency to the extent you will repeat the same condescending insults contained in the op to me. If you have the capacity to read you will see that it is the claim of the op which is being called to question, a lie which he intends to belittle Muslims rather than get some sensible point everyone who has responded sees that but you who should know better acquiesce to such condescension.

Empiree:
My first comment,

shows that i was basically nuetral and condemned BOTH SIDES. You and the other brother however looked at the whole thing straight up from SECTARIAN view, which I see as absolutely irrelevant. Just wonder your claim to be sad about civilians being killed. Hence, onyocha was right when he said "you have being sectarian." No one want to see civilians die but using civilians as pawn to point blame just doesn't add up.


I went further to say,

Yet, you both ignored my comments and continued your sectarian approach. Now, I am not opposed to them "speaking the truth before tyrant" as you rightly quoted but DEFINITELY speaking truth before tyrant is not synonymous to taking weapons and money from another tyrannical leaders. Thats something else. You are advocating same thing BH is doing in Nigeria. Folks already accused US and Saudi of funding the people but you still want Nigerian govt to crush BH, isn't?. Nigerian govt committed massacre against civilians in Maiduguri while fighting BH but you all ignored as long as they crush BH. It took American actor who visited the region (as reported on the front page) to speak on the mass murder by Nigerian Army. Yet none of you are concerned about that. You're concerned about murder of civilian thousands of miles away. Hence, Syrian govt see the rebels just as BH. Thats why i didnt need to reply you earlier.

Besides another reports came yesterday, given us different account of possible foreign powers involved in Aleppo massacre. Isnt any wonder the so called "human rights" all of a sudden are concerned about Aleppo?. But when Israel massacred the Palestinians they fold their arms. In essence, they are "human rights" when it is convenient..

Please brothers help me empiree, is he ashamed of Islam that he has consistently refused to answer the question regarding its position on war, how it is to be fought and how to treat civilians? Please help me ask why all this pivot to right akin to talking about the Gestation period of elephant? Empiree why can't you use Islam as the criterion to judge Assad's actions? Let frame the question as follows:

1. Does Islam permits killing people who questions the way you are ruling them or demand their rights?

2. What is Islam Position on Fighting Wars with regards to the rights of civilians?

2. What does Islam says targeting civilians?

3. Does Islam support the use of Chemical weapons, indiscriminate bombings of civilians, starving civilians, burning them etc?

4. Does Islam permit the support of terrorist organizations like al qaeda, which we learn Assad did during US occupation of Iraq?

4. Does you the Assad regime which you are more favorably dispose to adhere to these Islamic principles?

let me stop here, brothers please help me beg Empiree to answer the question and not bore us with red herrings

CuteCeo:
Bros...show me a Cartoon of God..cos i never see am before

shayo na bad thing oh.

Seun:
As a muslim, what will you do if you ever see a cartoon depicting God? (@Stalwert too)

You started this thread on a false premise and falsehood. One would expect that any decent human being with morals will apologize for such misleading lies ... what we see here is playing over your lies like trump. This reflects why you are where you are.

You deserve no answer until you show where Allah was depicted and Muslims laid back.


#Shame

The same Assembly that can provide to the public information about its running cost reaching N500billion?


BOI, CBN provide the needful information requested

How does it stop your case from going forward? Useless thief being celebrated by idiats

May it be so the great conman of the east shall be called to account for the evil he perpetuated on the land

UNfortunately they are gathering of largely uselesss people whose greed has gone out of control.

The uselsss wife of a useless male prostitute. You want your husband to stay in prison for 20 years so that you can see things and DO THINGS.

PedroJP:
That PMB face doesn't look lile one saying "thank you" more or less adding "very much"


That face can only bring out three words in such condition which are " well done bros"

Oga do your caption make I do my own oh! How I caption my own no be your problem oh

Tinubu : Congratulations and blessings on the couple


PMB: Thank you very much for honoring my invitation and your continued support.

Abdulsalam: abeg mr. President my hand no dey for Halliburton.

Sarathief: Make them give me chance make I talk to the president about my many cases.

This man should be sent off from the cabinet IMMEDIATELY!

Craziness just go real

lexiconkabir:
lets assume someone answered this nonsense, what value would it add to your life?

you go mind the troll

Ahmed0336:
I've never really noticed it until now. Let's wait for those who ll have something tangible to iron this issue.

You have never noticed it because it has not happen atleast not in our life time so unless he is trolling you don't need anybody to have something tangible, first you should ask where did this depiction of Allah occurred that it seemed only him got to see it happen.
I remember the story of Sigmaud Feud who severally abuse cocaine in his leisure time and used it, this made him delusional to the extent of fabricating reality.

Empiree:
Everything you assumed here is wrong from A-Z. And yet, if we should go by islam, why ignoring order of the prophet to obey the ruler no matter what?

Why are ignoring the part that ask when will you quote what ISLAM says about rules of fighting a war?

Even if they ask you to commit shirk? Bros reexamine your understanding of Islam clearly there are huge gaps, the prophet talking about obeying a leader is even if he is a black with a raising hair clearly about respecting a leader no matter his race not about evil vile minded assad whom you hold in high esteem who supported Al qaeeda activieties in Iraq while the going was good.


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Empiree:
Also, with respect to Putin, that's not me. US media themselves reported this. They reported again few days ago. So why is that my issue?. Google it, Forbes magazine and other rated Putin. So this doesnt apply to me[/s].

Since you come to the Islam Section to Whitewashing putin by reminding us he is a peaceful person, then it clearly applies to you. Remeber no one decided to post that inane position in this section except you, the whitewasher

Empiree:
What you said up there is the same thing happening in the US often time. Police or govt forces kill dissents daily. What difference does it make?. Like black people for instance, if they should take up arms, you see how govt would crush their movement. You brothers are bidding and playing it cool for them. And you messed it up by saying "pro-democracy". The same slogan they chanted in Iraq. Where is democracy in Iraq now?. Yes, I have to use BBC, their sister media outlet bcus it said simple fact. You can believe in what you want. My judgement is only through what is reported in islam regarding this. Yes, people do have right to rise to oppression but this one, as Yoruba people would say "o ti ni owo ni inu". They are taking weapons and money from the same people who killed thier muslim brothers elsewhere. hence, they belong to muslims mentioned in sura Maida ayah 51. They are no longer talking about govt crushed dissents(2011) anymore bcus that was not their agenda. Their agenda is what's going on now.

Clearly you have serious confusions like citing the US behavior to justify what Assad do, when will you cite Islam to judge the actions of Assad? Is it when you beards have turned white? Ok Assad is right not because Islam says so but because the US does the same thing? I am still waiting when you will tell us the What are the rules of engagement/fighting war according to Islam not Assad or Russia or the US just what Islam says about how to go about fighting wars. I pray you have the courage to finally look up what Islam really says about how to fight wars. It is a pity that you don't even know what a dissenter is talk more of comparing a govt that kills its citizen when they protest with one who basically uses teargas. It is even hypocritical when you quote one piece of information and leave teh other bits out.

The common sense many supporters of assad are lacking but this gut pat have:

While I have watched the destruction of Syria, I have to wonder what would have happened if the government had just sat down to hear what the protesters wanted instead of shooting them. Would Syria had been a better country for it? I cannot understand ones government killing their own people just to prove a point. I, like many others will never understand it and just shake our heads in disbelief.

Empiree:
Question is, why foreign countries funding the rebels?. This is what they cant afford to happen on their own soil. Just like BH, we dont want foreign countries fund them, isnt?. It is clear from BBC report that rebels uprising against govt was instigated by foreign counties. So trying to use civilians as pawn to gain support is irrational to me. No one wants to see civilians death but unfortunately it is not preventable.

Keep polishing Assad eventually he will sparkle

Pro-democracy protests erupted in March 2011 in the southern city of Deraa after the arrest and torture of some teenagers who painted revolutionary slogans on a school wall. After security forces opened fire on demonstrators, killing several, more took to the streets.

The unrest triggered nationwide protests demanding President Assad's resignation. The government's use of force to crush the dissent merely hardened the protesters' resolve. By July 2011, hundreds of thousands were taking to the streets across the country.

Opposition supporters eventually began to take up arms, first to defend themselves and later to expel security forces from their local areas.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-26116868
Atleast be truthful enough to q properly state the story as it is and stop being dishonest an allegation you often make against the same media you use to advance your assad polishing technique

Empiree:
But then, i can be wrong or right. The situation there is complicated one. It is not easy to say this side is right. That side is wrong. Rebels have committed atrocities similar to this. So please don be disappointed. It is just what it is for now. We all glean info from what media spew but i usually dont buy them.

Somebody is denying his position even before being called to account

Demmzy15:
Bro Empiree to be frank, I'm really disappointed to see what you wrote above. Are you justifying the deaths? From your above posts, no civilian deaths gives you nightmare, for you to support this kind of evil.
Asin I'm speechless wallahi, may Allaah have mercy on the Syrians!

Don't be disappointed, he gleefully posted Putin is the most powerful man on earth and peaceful man despite several evil policies he has propounded. He has forgotten what the rule of war entails, in fact Islam does not matter to him to use as a the ultimate position on all matters, to him Assad has the right to kill Syrians as long as the rebels would be kept at bay, till this moment Islam position on how war should be conducted is not important.

Empiree:
[s]I think you missed the point completely. There is propaganda going on right now and people fall for it. The comment above me was right. If you noticed when those crazy people were killing, the West cheered them. None of us is there now to affirm the truth. Around me here everyone keeps saying Assad is this and that. I dont go by majority. It is very simple. The rebels could simply surrender their weapons to avoid this madness. Govt never surrenders. Govt exercise power and authority. Just like buhari is doing to bh now.

Imagine rebels fighting UK govt now, do you think the govt would bow?. No. If Assad should step down, who is it to be there from the rebels side?. This is exactly what i said on libya when everyone was cheering the rebels but i saw it differently and i was right. After rebels took over, they killed US ambassador. But then they were not rebels. They were called "freedom fighters" something like that. When they killed US person, they are terrorists. It is a game they play. Unfortunately civilians got caught up in the process. Dont think for a second brother that i support Assad. That's not my point. My point is the rebels the west funds are no better. They want to them to come to power[/s].

Bros go read about civil wars, there is a reason they are called civil, and you remain an Assad supporter, who pretends not to be because decent people don't defend a useless government that kills its own people

Empiree:
^

Thank You. I just didnt want to reply him. Why do they not follow the hadith which say "obey authority even if he is black with raising hair"?.

Reminds us what again was your reaction when Iranian backed houthis overthrew the govt in Yemen? Suddenly you forgot obeying authority and supported the same rebellion you hate in Syria. Hypocrisy isn't far from this behavior It is not left for you to pretend or reduce the Syrian struggle against an unjust, corrupt, oppressive leader.

Empiree:
They forgot that us trops are on the ground there as well. ididnt even know that until few days ago when they announced additional 200 troops to fight there. I guess everyone sees things diff.

on the ground where in Aleppo or fighting ISIS which you role model Assad should have initially focused on but preferred killing people who opposed his rule and weren't extremist, because he knew they had more legitimacy

Empiree:
What i do know for sure is there is no way Syrian govt would not hve committed some sort of atrocities. It is part of war. But fact remain it is legitimate govt. The opposition MUST surrender their weapons bcus they started it. These brothers dont understand that the west trying to place isi.s in power in syria like they did in libya. It has been impossible due to russians.

Sorry what are the Rules of engagement the prophet pbuh laid down for the ummah, keep hailing your christian heros murdering muslims in Syria but remeber what the prophet pbuh said about killing innocent people during war. It is apparent those who remember to quote hadith to support obeying unconditionally an oppressor but fail to even recall hadith that places preservation of life during war as being important.

Empiree:
Anyways, civilian deaths really gives me sleepless night. Thats really my concern now

No sir you sleep well at night, remember you said the killings serve the interest of Islam and to prevent Nato from coming in

Onyocha:
when terrorists took over Aleppo some four years ago with the help of "kuffar" western powers and Wahhabi takfiri terrorists from all corners of the world to fight a legitimate government and "share democracy for free" to Syrian children, you guys did not cry. you praised it as a "revolution". you did not see the government regaining control of its land. you did not cry for the Christians, Shia and Alawites who got butchered and beheaded by extremist Wahhabi Sunni terrorists. you now cry when the government of the land is imposing its right as the "constituted authority" of the land to regain control. what Assad and his allies is doing in Aleppo against terrorists is no different from what Nigeria did in Bornu against Boko Haram Wahhabi terrorists. and your cry for Aleppo is no different than your cry for Boko Haram when a Christian was president of Nigeria fighting Wahhabi terror. you saw him as a Christian fighting "Muslims". whenever the person fighting against terror is not Sunni, you view the terrorists as "innocent Sunni civilians" leading a divine battle. shame on you.

it is called "sovereignty" and the Syrian government has the will to regain every inch of Syrian territory. most of you hypocrites are not crying for civilians. it is a big lie. do you cry for Yemen, where Wahhabi Saudi Arabia is on an indiscriminate bombing campaign to kill Yemeni Shiite civilians out of sectarian hate? do you cry for the yemen population that is starving because of saudi siege? what does saudi has to do with yemen? you only cry about Russia. it is only russian bombs that kill civilians. saudi and american bombs do not, in the mind of a hypocrite Wahhabi!!! those are precision bombs directed by the angels of Allah!!! you also dont cry over Bahrain, in spite of the fact that the population is majority Shia and repressed and oppressed and their revolution has been nothing close to violence in Syria if at all.

lt it is not Assad that is killing civilians for being Sunni or of whatever religion or fairy-tales they believe in. it is your takfiri Wahhabi terrorists who go about killing Shia and Alawites and Christians because of what those people believe in. Takfiri killings is the whole-mark of Wahhabism. you guys are crying because the terrorists got beaten very disgracefully and the entire Sunni world cannot do anything; and even though the entire world (apart from Russian, China, Iran, and hezbollah and their allies) backed them to violently overthrow Assad because Europe needs a gas pipeline from Qatar across Syria into Europe; that would enable Europe be independent of Russian gas supply. and Saudi wants a Sunni puppet ruling Syria, and for the same reason of having a puppet who is pro-Zionist, Israel and the west want Assad out. too bad those dreams have been buried in Aleppo.

as for the civilians, any genuine civilian who got killed by government fire is undeliberate and "collateral damage" and the consequence of a sectarian terror/proxy war imposed on Syria because its leader is not Sunni and because of its polity resisting Israel and allying with Russia and Iran. it is a proxy war in Syria. it is a sectarian and regional war too. dont cry about civilians. the so called rebels hypocrite Vedaxcool CALLING YOURSELF STALWERT cheered for are now beaten. even tbaba joined the sectarian bandwagon to cheer for terrorists. now they are beaten. Allah did not answer your sectarian prayers. He has disappointed you big time. you lost against Jewish Israel every time and now you are losing big time against Shia Muslims in Syria and Iraq. Allah does not hear the prayers of takfiris. very sad the takfiris who put Shia civilians in cages and used them as human shields is well documented and reported in the media, if only you dont listen all the time to aljazeera and western media.

Assad ruled Syria for 11 years before the world war on Syria. not once did he touch any Syrian because of his belief or religion. he ruled everyone as a true secularist. that is soemthing not found in the Sunni led arab countries. Syria remains the only secular Arab country in the Middle East. and kudos to Russia for protecting that and fighting terrorism. as sad as the loss of civilian lives is, hypocrites who cheered each time the takfiri terrorists took over cities in Syria have no right to complain.

When you finally figure out what religion you really practice, is it Christianity or Islam or just a Shia hypocrite who pretends to be everybody else then I might consider you close to sanity.

My brother at some point it seemdd I was the only one concerned. .. Muslims generally feel helpless with some shameless one amongst them egging on the aggressors or those who exceed the bound Allah has set for fighting war. When I saw certain Muslims happily jubilating Russia was killing muslims calling them fighting terrorism I knew some evil has besieged the brains of many. Unfortunately Muslims were not vocal as we should have been because the enemies of Islam have used the deviants to drive. wedge on matters that on any religious level clearly is rejected.

We should offer prayers for brothers in Syria, May Allah avenge their blood and visit upon the transgressors who levelled entire buildings with people in them. amin I remember opening a thread on starving Syrians the same lukewarm attitude was observe. Some people think Russia killing Syrians is for the benefit of Islam that a secularist shia deviant like Assad is serving the interest of Islam that Iran and hezbollah .killing Syrians serves Islam I ask what good is your head when your brain cannot even distinguish that murdering innocent serves no ones interest. May Allah guide the foolish amongst us and destroy the servants of taguts amongst us. amin.

nortcentrallord:
The man from Niger who threatened to kill a Nigerian man because he named his dog buhari wasn't even arrested and he had no immunity yet Nigeria was not his country...

Comparing a random case of a man who is a nobody with governor whose responsibility is to maintain peace in his state only goes to shows how poorly your capacity to reason is.

One hopes there isn't this level of collusion amongst officials who swore to protect Nigeria's best interests.

Supported*! A man who threatened violence against his opponents can not go unpunished.

orisa37:
With the no confirmation of Magu by The Senate, Nigerians are telling The Presidency to SACK MAGU OUTRIGHTLY WITH IGNOMINY and The EFCC to start probing Magu immediately and recover all what he has corruptly enriched himself with. If these two punishments are not metred on Magu immediately, Mr. President can forget his claim to Anti corruption fight. Nigerians will henceforth regard him a Fraud and Fake. This Sagay also is a Sycophant and is corrupt. Mr. President should deal with him

Joker clown when you call for the arrest of gej who is patron saint of thieves then your useless call will be heeded.

ndcide:
No. Doing so will mean me defending Magu. I'm a neutral person here. Throwing it back to the senate or the DSS is simply being prejudiced. Magu is still alive. Wilson is still alive, Magu is at the centre of the controversy, their phone lines not connecting at this time gives credence to the whole accusation.

If it was an issue with a pdp related personality, They will be reachable and they will respond.

Sorry, anything other than a strong response from Magu in the first instance, will not be acceptable and should he remain in that office in spite of such allegation, that will further underscore the position that the Buhari's anti-corruption stance is useless.

I laugh at your neutrality. What a banal joke that elevates gossips into tangible source of information. have a nice day.... T

ndcide:
Do you think we should dismiss it? After all, Magu hasn't denied it. Calls to his lines and that of Wilson the spokesman is still not going through.

You should demand dss or the senate makes the report public. .. else any rumour can be said and insinuated and you simply expected to believe it.