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Look I don't know YOUR history better than you do. But Christianity is not your history. You are tired of us black Americans coming on here and doing that? Doing what? My people are about as afraid of god as you people are. You are even afraid to have a discussion about if Christianity is relevant to the African. You just turn your nose up at the truth. Everything that I said, you ignored. You will continue to worship a god that is all about the individual while nearly every black majority country doesn't control it's own resources at all. I just want us to wake up. You, on the other hand, want to keep everyone divided. And that's cool. Keep worshipping as you wish, I can't stop you. But you have no good arguments for doing as you do, and despite being the most religious, god fearing people are earth, we are still in our current situation as members of the African Diaspora. We straighten our hair to look like Europeans, worship their religion, lookin down upon our languages, etc etc etc. I'll leave you guys alone, though, since no one wants to join me in the real world.

Yes, but you must have taken something, at first, to be able to give anything. You can't give without having taken. It's a balance.

Please, fellow black people. I beg of you. As an African-American, your brother in the grand struggle that unites all the world's opressed, whether or not you want to believe it, I beg you to please stop worshiping the religion of those that conquered you. Christianity is a flag of the European oppressors that have ransacked the world for the last 500 years. The same people that own your oil are the ones that want you to remain Christians.

First, remember that religion only exists in a place where it benefits those in power!

Here is the story, whether you want to believe it or not. Christianity was a small, unimportant sect among many other unimportant sects until the Roman general Constantine picked it up as a flag in one of Rome's constant civil wars between generals over who would be the next Emperor. He happened to win, and Presto!! - Christianity became the state religion of the most powerful empire in the European-dominated world. The church and the State were One. When the eastern part of the Roman Empire, centered in Constantinople (now Istanbul, Turkey) split politically and militarily from Rome, the Eastern Orthodox versions of The Church automatically also separated from Rome. The Church and the State were still One; both sections of Christianity were organs of their respective State's power. (That's why the Roman Catholic Crusaders' first mass massacre, long before they conquered Muslim-ruled Jerusalem, was of the "Christian" inhabitants of Constantinople.)

Martin Luther's Protestantism spread throughout much of northern Europe in less than two generations because urban merchants AND dukes and princes saw their chance to break free of the political power of Rome, and to form other political, economic and military alliances. Like the General Constantine a thousand years before, they picked up a different religious flag to organize forces in their totally secular battles. Protestantism thrived because it served the interests of northern Europe's ruling classes: the nobility AND the rising merchant-capitalists.

Islam exploded like a nova-star on an Arabian penninsula that had grown far too chaotic for the sustenance and expansion of commerce. Trade caravans could not move unmolested in a sea of warring bedouins organized by clan, raiding and robbing each other, constantly disrupting commerce - all flying their own religious "flags" that were actually the pennants of a multitude of ruling families. Mecca and Medina were important, competing trade centers. Muhammad organized a war, (bloodily) uniting the two commercial centers AND the various tribal raiders of the area. This created the economic and military fuel for the Arab BREAKOUT from their sandy penninsula. In only a century, the "Islamic" empire (which initially meant "Arab" for all real intents and purpose) covered more ground than (pre-Christian) Rome's empire, and was even more deeply embedded, since THE PEOPLE of the empire were converted (!) to Islam, with its iconic-symbolic HQ in Mecca.

Judaism also flourished for the first time since the Romans crushed and dispersed the Jews in the early First Century, as an integral element of the Arab expansion. Jews moved as whole communities in step with the Arab Breakout - to Spain and far beyond. They were a favored people, not considered Infidels, but junior partners - a compact that continued in varying degrees of force until the advent of modern Zionism, in the late 1800s. Jews were, in other words, in league with the Arab State and its State Religion, Islam.

And of course, Christianity was the state religion of the Europeans when it came time for their BREAKOUT, after 1492, the year after the Arabs (and with them, their Jewish partners) were driven from Spain. Catholic and Protestant Euro-states planted their national and religious flags, simultaneously - as did the Pilgrim sect, in Massachusettes - which immediately established its own harsh, state religion.

See, religion is a FLAG. They carried the flag of your European country in one hand, and the cross in the other as they invaded people. Unfortunately, too many in the African diaspora chose to continue to be part of a religion that hasn't done **** for them.

Africans and African Americans and Afro-Brasilians, and everything else, we all, unfortunately, were trained to look down upon our native African religions and now embrace one that preaches individual survival and not rising as a group, which is the only way to the top for us. As individuals, we forever stay apart, which, again, is in the interests of the powers that be. While all types of Europeans trade with each other, we call ourselves African Booty scratcher and Akata. Christianity is not the answer for our people. We must find something that is more relevant. Instead of fighting Muslims, why not look at their belief system and see if it carries relevance to us. It may not, and then you can continue on searching for one that does. I just want to bring people together.