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jeoma Chikezie.

seunlayi:
who told you that paying tithes overruled your sins?

Really? Okay, without tithes christians will still go to heaven because their sins have been paid for? I now understand.

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HallaDaTruth:
What of the Imam found with human skull in alakuko . A crime is a crime .

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Crime is a crime only when a pastor is involved but when it is one Kabiru or Halilu from the north, crime is no longer a crime, then it becomes "Islamic". Besides, how many Imams (not just a muslim) have you heard were involved in robbery, rituals, 419 etc as compared to PASTORS?

ItsMeAboki:
Don't mind the cretinous bigots; remember Yunusa and Ese who eloped as lovers and only wanted to marry?
If it was as a northerner they wouldn't just be condemning the crime but the tribe, religion and region - look at them, none is shouting paedophilia or kidnapping; someone was even trying to justify it by saying the girl being from Akwa Ibom should be able to comfortably take on at least three men - can you imagine.

Excellent.
1. One Rabiu or Jamilu from Kano or sokoto (not an imam) is involved in similar crime.
Criminal Hypocrites :
a. Fear north
b. Paedophile
c. Aboki and rape
d. That is Islam
e. They are the worst.
f. Etc

2. An in-law to pastor raped and impregnated a 10yr old orphan in the house of the pastor
Criminal Hypocrites:
a. Why attaching the pastor to demean christianity
b. The rapist should be punished
c. Even northerners also rape girls
d. The rapist is matured enough to take responsibility
e. Why should this fine guy be raping a little girl?
f. Etc
Check this thread https://www.nairaland.com/4431813/how-pastors-brother-in-law-raped-impregnated#66378586

3. A pastor raped a 12yr old.
Criminal Hypocrites:
a. He is a fake pastor
b. Why are they pushing anti christian threads to FP
c. Imams also rape
d. I don't believe the story
e. Where is the picture
f. Nairaland is owned by a Muslim ( )
g. Muslims are terrorists
h. Etc
Check this thread
https://www.nairaland.com/4435320/pastor-arrested-raping-12-year-old-housemaid#66432749

4. A woman set sex target for a 15yr old in brothel.
Scroll up and check the comments of criminal hypocrites.
Watch as one pained dolt will quote and cross this comment later and start sounding like mentally challenged monkeys.

Later in life, this same Elizabeth Ita go talk say dem get talent and na im make she no poor. Now she don set target for a 15yr old inside brothel but if she hear say 15 yr old is married, she go talk say 15 yr old suppose dey school instead of marrying, bunch of criminal hypocrites. I will rather remain poor as a shoe shiner than feeding on orphans. Though dem say it is better to be rich by whatever means as long as you dey pay your tithes since someone has already died for your sins. . Instead of these criminal hypocrites to face their problems, dem go dey everywhere dey talk of northerners. Dis one sef go dey talk say she dey hustle while northerners are poverty stricken shoe shiners and mai guard.

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streamsofjoy:
And u couldn't find even 1 on an imam. This is very serious

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That is ur duty since Nairaland is "anti christian".
Keep deceiving yourselves.
See a christian setting target for another 15 yr old girl in ashawo work.
https://www.nairaland.com/4435642/woman-sets-sex-target-15-year#66439571

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streamsofjoy:
Not as much

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Keep deceiving yourselves. Maybe these are screen pages from Nairaland.

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veeshock:
Good night bro

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Nonsense.

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streamsofjoy:
My dear, they dnt only bring to FP, they Fabricate news just to demean the christian faith.

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Chatap there. But the northern cases reported by christians and brought to FP by same christian moderators are not fabrications to demean muslims abi?

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streamsofjoy:
NL is not accurate na.

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Same Nairaland owned by a non muslim and dominated by both christian moderators and users?
Okay check statistics using Google. Or is Google owned by Muslims again?

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veeshock:
Lol even Jesus Christ Himself said some pastors would perform miracles in His Name but He would deny them on the Last day because they were never His followers.

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Stop trying to explain nonsense on a topic about a criminal rapist who is a PASTOR preaching to CHRISTIANS with the BIBLE in a CHURCH.
Is this how you explain a case of "a Rabiu or Kabiru" from Kano or sokoto (not even an imam) involved in same crime? But this is a pastor who preaches gospels in a church.

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uzazor:
rember d bible dat says, , many are called but few are chosen

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Both the called and the chosen preach to christians in churches with bibles.

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HallaDaTruth:
Keep quiet and look for something else to do. I don't have time for these argument. All i know is that 90 percent of all the attrocities globally are committed by Muslims . Number 1 terrorists religion

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This is about the raping of a 12yr old by a PASTOR who preaches the GOSPEL to CHRISTIANS in a CHURCH with the BIBLE.
Here is the in-law of a PASTOR raping a 10yr orphan in the PASTOR'S house.
https://www.nairaland.com/4431813/how-pastors-brother-in-law-raped-impregnated#66378586

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BedLam:
Hehe let me just do you the favor of quoting only you. Not the other sociopaths...

My post read that it's an abomination be it hand in marriage or rape in any form. Still, go back to Comprehension classes. Smello.

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The criminal rapist is a PASTOR preaching to CHRISTIANS with the BIBLE in a CHURCH
Here is an in-law of a pastor raping a 10yr orphan.
https://www.nairaland.com/4431813/how-pastors-brother-in-law-raped-impregnated#66378586

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veeshock:
You can call him a saint if you wish, but its obvious to even a new born babe he doesnt follow the Bible.

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He is a PASTOR preaching to CHRISTIANS with the BIBLE in a CHURCH

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HallaDaTruth:
Imams do this up North and in some places in the South West, why do people not raise their eye brows .

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If all christians involved in crime are called pastors as you are trying to theorise, only God knows the number of pastors in prisons today.

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HallaDaTruth:
You are contradicting yourself . If you say they are not imams, how come you now believe that anyone that calls himself a pastor is a real Pastor. What is good for the goose is good for the gander

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Shatap there, the report stated that 77 other suspects were also paraded. And judging from the location, I have no doubt that 100 percent of them are christians and they were not called pastors. The pastor was specifically mentioned because he is a pastor.

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HallaDaTruth:
Same with imams, come to my area and see the amount of juju they do . One imam in my area used his last child to do juju , even confessed to it , Is it because its not reported . Never base your assumptions on the media . Guy i dey watch baca match abeg .

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Are they IMAMS? So answering a muslim is now same as being an IMAM? By implication, we should start tagging any christian armed robber as a pastor.

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BedLam:
Comprehension problem, sir ?

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Yes, comprehension problem will come up now because a pastor raped but if same crime was committed by one Rabiu in Kano, the entire north are rapist. Just yesterday, look at the in-law of a pastor raping and impregnating a 10 yr old orphan.
https://www.nairaland.com/4431813/how-pastors-brother-in-law-raped-impregnated#66378586

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Nwaohafia1:
Not everyone who deceives people in whatever church name is a pastor

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He is a PASTOR.

[quote author=zombieHUNTER post=66435973][/quote]Posting a drawing doesn't change anything, the rapist is a pastor who preach to christians in a church

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HallaDaTruth:
Same with All Imams

[/s] Trying to make it look like it is same in all religion abi?
How many IMAMS have you read, heard or seen were involved in robbery, rituals, 419 and rape? Shall we take statistics from Nairaland?

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zombieHUNTER:
Abeg comot that pastor tittle

Nwaohafia1:
You guys should stop tagging all these robbers pastors.

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He is A PASTOR preaching to christians.

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BedLam:
People from your side don't see anything wrong with this act. Parents even give their children out to men who are old enough to be their ancestors. But down South, it's an abomination and we don't take it lightly.

Giving that you can use a modern keyboard, I'm sure you've digested the cold hard truth.

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A pastor that stands in the front of congregation of men and women preaching gospel is involved in rape and this one is typing opata.

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veeshock:
Maigida na if islam didnt promote paedophilla nobody would be comaining. Face things the way they are, whats bad is bad. shikena.

[/s]This is a rape by a pastor who preach in a church.


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Sheuns:
BRO take a chill. Let's not always put religious and tribal remarks in what we do. What matters is for the man to be prosecuted accordingly. Gracias Amigos.

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Yeah, religion should be left out because na pastor, but if na one Rabiu from the north, it becomes a good religious story.

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lestat:
lalasticlal mynd

Please ban this person

His isn't a forum for touts this nonsense has gone on long enough

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Likewise it is not a forum for IPOB miscreants.
May thunder fire any idiotic pig of Biafra who dares eat any Nigerian rice produced under Buhari's regime

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Bede2u:
That is not true. Pdp will present dankwambo, atiku, lamido, shekarau and kwankwaso for primaries....we can ensure that dankwambo wins the primaries. Or is he a looter too? Then we can use soludo as his deputy...or soludo is a looter too?

Buhari is not capable of leading us into 2020s wen the world would be going to clean energy and IT economy...he is a product of 20th century....i voted him in 2015, it would be a disservice to nigeria to vote him in 2019 wen dankwambo is there

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For the next 5 centuries, Igbos will not go close to aso rock, so stop deceiving yourself. Is soludo not a prof? So why should he deputise for an illiterate aboki according to the logic of IPOB miscreants? Apart from irrelevant 5 percent, nobody will vote a combination of any tribe with igbo in Nigeria, take it or leave it. If dankwambo want to pull any vote from other places, he is better advised not to pick any igbo as a running mate because that is where his failure will start. Buhari attempted it twice, we all know how it ended until he picked a yoruba man.

ibtz:
Now u dont understand d verses, u falsely quote verses, u cherrypick without giving sight to preceding and next verses where conditions are always stated.

Now i am going to show that there is no contradiction. but u cant prove yours to me

In order:
this is Quran 19:67 Does the human being not remember that We created him before, when he was nothing?
[Quran, 19:67] created him
when he was nothing, the Quran did not say he was created from nothing.

Did God not create Adam from clay?
What were u created frm, a sperm that became a clot of blood (congealed)in your mothers womb? So yes the Quran can say sperm and still say clot because sperm turned into clot, so they are d same thing. are they contradicting.. it is merely stages.

this is Quran 52:35

Or were they created out of nothing? Or are they the creators?
[Quran, 52:35]



2. this is Quran 9:3
this is And a proclamation from Allah and His Messenger to the people on the day of the Greater Pilgrimage, that Allah has disowned the polytheists, and so did His Messenger. If you repent, it will be better for you. But if you turn away, know that you cannot escape Allah. And announce to those who disbelieve a painful punishment.
[Quran, 9:3]

this is d next verse Quran 9:4


Except for those among the polytheists with whom you had made a treaty, and did not violate any of its terms, nor aided anyone against you. So fulfill the treaty with them to the end of its term. Allah loves the righteous.
[Quran, 9:4]

(can u see now that u cherry pick without giving sight to d next or previous verse, dat is what isis, alqaeda do, maybe u are one of dem)

Now u need to understand that the polytheists(arab pagans) violated the treaty in existence, dat is why dis next verse was revealed. and still the previous verse holds ground

Quran 9:5
When the Sacred Months have passed, kill the polytheists wherever you find them. And capture them, and besiege them, and lie in wait for them at every ambush. But if they repent, and perform the prayers, and pay the alms, then let them go their way. Allah is Most Forgiving, Most Merciful.
[Quran, 9:5]

Before u say jack, dis is d next verse, another condition Quran 9:6

And if anyone of the polytheists asks you for protection, give him protection so that he may hear the Word of Allah; then escort him to his place of safety. That is because they are a people who do not know.
[Quran, 9:6]

How can there be a treaty with the polytheists on the part of Allah and His Messenger, except for those with whom you made a treaty at the Sacred Mosque? As long as they are UPRIGHT with you, be UPRIGHT with them. Allah loves the pious.
[Quran, 9:7]
can u see i highlighted upright, dat is anoda condition meaning if they dont fight u, dont fight them.. any contradiction

Quran 9:29
Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the
Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath
been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger,
nor acknowledge the religion of Truth , (even
if they are) of the People of the Book, until
they pay the Jizya with willing submission,
and feel themselves subdued," (9:29).

Please if u owe tax in lagos abi land use, wud LIRS or FIRS not fight u and subdue you till u pay the tax.

mind u jizya is a tax levied on a non muslim under the protection of a muslim government. if u dont pay your tax, u wud be subdued into paying it shikeena.
The Prophet(S.A.W) lived among jews and christians in medina. now u know if u did not know.

Quran 39:12
And I was commanded to be the first of those who submit.”
[Quran, 39:12]
Those who submit among his people (arabs) because he is not the first to believe in One God, and the Quran did not say first of those who submit amongst d whole of mankind.


And when Moses came to Our appointment, and his Lord spoke to him, he said, “My Lord, allow me to look and see You.” He said, “You will not see Me, but look at the mountain; if it stays in its place, you will see Me.” But when his Lord manifested Himself to the mountain, He turned it into dust, and Moses fell down unconscious. Then, when he recovered, he said, “Glory be to you, I repent to you, and I am the first of the believers.”
[Quran, 7:143]

same thing first to believe among his people, Quran did not say first of the whole mankind. Noah believed in One God before him.

What is Islam? Is the Belief and submission to One God, belief in his Prophets, his books, his angels(b4 u twist dis, it is belief in their existence), to give zakat(obligatory, very compulsory) out of your wealth, establish 5 daily prayers, embark on hajj(pilgrimage) only if u have d means i.e money and sustenace for your family.


Quran 4:48
Allah does not forgive association with Him, but He forgives anything less than that to whomever He wills. Whoever associates anything with Allah has devised a monstrous sin.
[Quran, 4:48]

Yes he does not forgive if they die in disbelief as evident in d following verses of that same chapter

Repentance is available from Allah for those who commit evil out of ignorance, and then repent soon after. These—Allah will relent towards them. Allah is Knowing and Wise.
[Quran, 4:17]. Any kind of evil

But repentance is not available for those who commit evils, until when death approaches one of them, he says, “Now I repent,” nor for those who DIE as disbelievers. These—We have prepared for them a painful torment.
[Quran, 4:18]
can u see it in 4:18.







Pharoah
And We delivered the Children of Israel across the sea. Pharaoh and his troops pursued them, defiantly and aggressively. Until, when he was about to drown, he said, “I believe that there is no god except the One the Children of Israel believe in, and I am of those who submit.”
[Quran, 10:90]



Now? When you have rebelled before, and been of the mischief-makers?
[Quran, 10:91]

u see That God did not accept his repentance because he said in Quran 4:18

But repentance is not available for those who commit evils, until when death approaches one of them, he says, “Now I repent,” nor for those who die as disbelievers. These—We have prepared for them a painful torment.
[Quran, 4:18]






this is Quran 10:92
Today We will preserve your body, so that you become a sign for those after you. But most people are heedless of Our signs.
[Quran, 10:92]
i mean those verses are clear enough to any logical minded person.
And i am very sure it is dead bodies that are preserved not living ones!!!

Finally the last one

This is Quran 5:90


O you who believe! INTOXICANTS, gambling, idolatry, and divination are abominations of Satan’s doing. Avoid them, so that you may prosper.
[Quran, 5:90]

i capitalized intoxicants, please let me ask you are all wines alcholic

i am pretty sure that there are non alcoholic wines and beverages in this world. abi wetin b fruit wine

if u dont understand English, thus is Quran 47:15

The likeness of the Garden promised to the righteous: in it are rivers of pure water, and rivers of milk forever fresh, and rivers of wine delightful to the drinkers, and rivers of strained honey. And therein they will have of every fruit, and forgiveness from their Lord. Like one abiding in the Fire forever, and are given to drink boiling water, that cuts-up their bowels?
[Quran, 47:15]

do u see intoxicant wine or alcoholic wine in the verses u quoted

any contradictions


I have refuted and made clear all your claims satisfactory and logically, but u cant and have not refuted mine, what u give is "we should believe even though there are contradictions".

But truth never has contradictions it was always plain truth.. TAINK YOU. LOL!!!

Perfect. But let me see how dem go explain their own. Yeye ppl.

54 billion dollars? Nawa. And Nigeria still dey struggle with 40 billion dollars for foreign reserve.

sekundosekundo:
Just watch as Buhari and APC's useful idiots will attack this bishop.

Pointzerom the dubai vacationer but you are always in Nairaland yarning opata. So how comes you dey always dey busy dey defend looters if they are not paying you.