Obaranje:
stop the lies oga, war no be your mate in war people die, but old and young

Israel declare war on Hamas and in war will have collateral damage, Israel is not killing children intentionally, rather Hamas is.

You cannot go to Israel to kill mime, rape and kidnap people and run back to Gaza when you know you have kids there as well as women and you expect them not to be affected by your silly act

Why not run to the sea with your boats since you value your children so much, so that the war will take place there

If Israel leave the sea and start bombing Gaza only then can will sey they are intentionally killing innocent people when the perpetrators are in the sea

They brought an ant infested wood home and they should enjoy the stings of the ants

They for run go inside sea and wait for Israel to come and fight them there, but because they have an onteror motive that's using the children as shield they ran back to Gaza

Israel no dey play emotional mind game with them again that time don pass

Hamas is the killer of her people and not Israel

You're obviously brain washed to see the oppressor has the victim.
It's such a shame that educated people have been so brainwashed to see only one side of a story.

You see people being bombed almost on a daily a basis yet all you could cough out is this nonsense!

Do you know why I am this caustic ,it's because most of you are just blinded by who the Palestinians are.
I guess if the opposite was happening you mindless hypocrite will cry to the high heavens about how evil Islaam and Muslims are.

I know the games you guys are playing.
Keep at it.
But be rest assured, the day Israel will pay for all its atrocities isn't far and I pray most of you witness that day.

I rest my case.

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You think you are talking to one brain dead Vegetable reeling out lies as of you were swallowing spit.

How come most of the neutral people in this world are calling for a stoppage to the genocide going on in Gaza and Palestine?
Oga just because majority are on one side doesn't mean they are right. Majority of Nigerian voters voted for Buhari and you see where it landed us.
Justice and truth is not decided by majority. Sometimes. The minority is right and this is one of such times. :
It's seems you have chosen to pitch your tent with majority without thinking for yourself and to me, that's a big shame.

Sometimes I wonder if you guys are even a bit objective as you sound.
I asked a simple question,is the killing of innocent people loosing lands and property commensurate.
I can swear most of you commenting on this issue only became aware of this after Oct 7 attack.
You asked a simple question and I answered it.
I told you that being commensurate has never been an objective in war. Now let me explain again why that is a foolish question.
Let's assume Russia kills 10 Ukrainians in the present war, the Ukrainian generals would not be asking what number of Russian deaths are commensurate. Instead the will be looking for the best way to make it impossible for Russia to kill more Ukrainians. In the case of Israel, the best way is eliminating Hamas at all cause.

They've killed no less the 25,000 people in Palestine and majority of them being children.
To show heartless Israel is they killed some UN health workers last month that they had to admit that it was a "military error' you can see how shameless you can all be![/
I asked you to mention a war without civilian deaths and you are yet to mention one.
In 2021, the US killed little kids mistaken for terrorists in Afghan. All those involved in the attack have been promoted but the IDF men who mistakenly fired at the UN workers have all been sacked.
Hamas don't wear uniforms so it's more difficult to identify them. But Israel is doing all they can and they are really trying.
I guess this addresses all you concerns.

Empiree:
who gave the UN the right to divide the land of indigenous people and gave it to Europeans?

First, if you do not recognize the right of the UN to attempt to settle disputes between nations, then otis pointless to seek their sport ora Palestinian Nation at this point in time.

Secondly, if you think Palestinian Arabs are indigenous to the area of Mandatory Palestine, then your educarion in that regard is half-baked.and typical of similar defenders of the "Palestinians". Please see some of my earlier comments on similar issues to avoid repeating myself.

https://www.nairaland.com/7920509/netanyahu-gives-mossad-orders-kill/10#127177058

https://www.nairaland.com/8053434/latest-jewish-trick-says-hamas/3#129316475

https://www.nairaland.com/7991760/14-yr-old-palestinian-boy/2#128319386

Babinski:


First, if you do not recognize the right of the UN to attempt to settle disputes between nations, then otis pointless to seek their sport ora Palestinian Nation at this point in time.

Secondly, if you think Palestinian Arabs are indigenous to the area of Mandatory Palestine, then your educarion in that regard is half-baked.and typical of similar defenders of the "Palestinians". Please see some of my earlier comments on similar issues to avoid repeating myself.

https://www.nairaland.com/7920509/netanyahu-gives-mossad-orders-kill/10#127177058

https://www.nairaland.com/8053434/latest-jewish-trick-says-hamas/3#129316475

https://www.nairaland.com/7991760/14-yr-old-palestinian-boy/2#128319386

Well, current people in Nigeria are not the indigenous people of Nigeria. You need to leave too. Sounds good?.

Secondly, you said UN has the right to settle disputes amongst nations. It's being 75 years and the conflicts are not yet resolved. This means giving the land to Europeans in the middle East was fraudulent.

Let's forget about who are the indigenous for a second. Are those White Europeans who called themselves Jews are the indigenous people of the land?. Their problem is not Palestinian Arabs' but the Germans. So the good thing for UN to do was to resettle them in Europe particularly in Germany. Why Palestine?.

And lastly, so you take NL goons as good source of information?. This is why white people don't take Africans seriously. They know that whatever they tell you is what you believe because you never learned anything since after 400 years of slavery. All those clowns supporting Israel with some lope side "history" and the Bible are just goons.

Elder statesmen in Nigeria and around world have lectured you people on this issue several times but because you have decided to be subservient to the "chosen people", your fate has been sealed.

If the UN had chosen Africa to resettle European Jews, I am sure majority of you Africans would be militants by now.

This is just 1 min video for you to watch. You have no excuse not to watch.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESxmBrwNn_U?feature=shared

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc9RmkHpxCI?si=5BfzssmDj2cEzUQY

Egypt Joins ICJ Genocide Lawsuit Against Israel.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc9RmkHpxCI?si=5BfzssmDj2cEzUQY

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[quote author=tctrills post=129917167][/quote]

You call this a war?!

For God's sake are you blind?!

Who is fighting who?

You are just so so so naive and irresponsible at the same time.


This isn't war man,it's pure genocide going on and you're blindly calling it a war?!


Since Oct 7 attack mention one news item that says Hamas as attacked civilians or killed any!

Friend22:


Yiu call this a war?!

The God sake are you blind?!

Who is fighting who?

You are just so so so naive and irresponsible at the same time.


This isn't war man,it's pure genocide going on and you're blindly calling it a war?!

You came here just to insult me and make statements without any prove.
Typical behavior of the Hamas mob.
You boys are all the same. Sentimental and childish.
Anyway. I am used to you boys.
You've had the opportunity to explain to me and the rest of the world how this is different from every other war but as usual, you can.
How would you explain to your kids that this particular war is genocide and other wars are not? Or will you just force it down their brains that this was a genocide?

Empiree:
Well, current people in Nigeria are not the indigenous people of Nigeria. You need to leave too. Sounds good?.

Secondly, you said UN has the right to settle disputes amongst nations. It's being 75 years and the conflicts are not yet resolved. This means giving the land to Europeans in the middle East was fraudulent.

Let's forget about who are the indigenous for a second. Are those White Europeans who called themselves Jews are the indigenous people of the land?. Their problem is not Palestinian Arabs' but the Germans. So the good thing for UN to do was to resettle them in Europe particularly in Germany. Why Palestine?.

And lastly, so you take NL goons as good source of information?. This is why white people don't take Africans seriously. They know that whatever they tell you is what you believe because you never learned anything since after 400 years of slavery. All those clowns supporting Israel with some lope side "history" and the Bible are just goons.

Elder statesmen in Nigeria and around world have lectured you people on this issue several times but because you have decided to be subservient to the "chosen people", your fate has been sealed.

If the UN had chosen Africa to resettle European Jews, I am sure majority of you Africans would be militants by now.

This is just 1 min video for you to watch. You have no excuse not to watch.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESxmBrwNn_U?feature=shared

Please check the definition of indigenous for proper understanding, so you can see the folly in your claim about the current inhabitants of Nigeria.

Please use the link below to access resources on the UN website to educate yourself about the UÑ Charter and its powers.

https://www.un.org/en/about-us/un-charter

However it is my observation that you appear not to read in-depth and only gloss over things with consequential effect on your ability to logically and reasonably defend your position with verifiable facts and references. This is because if you read the links I posted in my earlier response, you would have seen they were comments posted by me to debunk the lies being parroted around by your ilk. I provided them so as not to waste time repeating myself on issues. Debunk them with verifiable and reasonable evidence rather than parroting unsubstantiated statements.

Alluding to the one minute YouTube video post by your purported Elder statesman in Nigeria as credible evidence or facts is laughable and indicative of your depth of reasoning. First, it is instructive that comments are disabled on the post ostensibly to prevent the bursting of the bubble of the fabricator masquerading as an authority on a subject clearly beyond his capabilities. Secondly, the video is at best the opinion of the maker who is not a known authority on African History much less Middle Eastern history.

Educate your.mind and let it grow beyond beer palour gossips where you adjudicate over matters while inebriated and yet think you are reasonable. Learn to cite facts rather than worthless opinions.

I am not interested in UN and it's power. And you definitely don't grab my sarcasm with respect to indigenous Nigerians. So I won't waste my time on that. UN has power. I don't dispute that but how is there power working in 7 months while genocide is being committed right before their eyes. So where is their power?. My friend, UN was created to do exactly what it is doing.

Babinski:


Please check the definition of indigenous for proper understanding, so you can see the folly in your claim about the current inhabitants of Nigeria.

Please use the link below to access resources on the UN website to educate yourself about the UÑ Charter and its powers.

https://www.un.org/en/about-us/un-charter

However it is my observation that you appear not to read in-depth and only gloss over things with consequential effect on your ability to logically and reasonably defend your position with verifiable facts and references. This is because if you read the links I posted in my earlier response, you would have seen they were comments posted by me to debunk the lies being parroted around by your ilk. I provided them so as not to waste time repeating myself on issues. Debunk them with verifiable and reasonable evidence rather than parroting unsubstantiated statements.

Alluding to the one minute YouTube video post by your purported Elder statesman in Nigeria as credible evidence or facts is laughable and indicative of your depth of reasoning. First, it is instructive that comments are disabled on the post ostensibly to prevent the bursting of the bubble of the fabricator masquerading as an authority on a subject clearly beyond his capabilities. Secondly, the video is at best the opinion of the maker who is not a known authority on African History much less Middle Eastern history.

Educate your.mind and let it grow beyond beer palour gossips where you adjudicate over matters while inebriated and yet think you are reasonable. Learn to cite facts rather than worthless opinions.

I said before that the European Jews are converts. They are not relative to the Holy Land.

Saying that "I am Jewish" which is very common amongst White people, is like saying "I'm a Christian".

Christians in Africa are converts from traditional Africa religion and can not just decide to go to Christian capital (Rome) to claim it as their own just because they are Christians as Israel did today. Similarly, European Jews are "proselyte" which simply means converts to Judaism. So the people who are currently occupying the land of Palestine are NOT relative to the land. They are Europeans, period.

What they are trying to do is to ethnicise Judaism by fraudulently relating biblical Israelites record to themselves. The historical Israelites that were expelled from the holy Land in 70AD had nothing to do with current Jews in Israel who are essentially Europeans.


So my question is, who are European Jews (Ashkenazi Jews)?. The Wikipedia gave us answered. They are originally from Holy Roman Empire


All nonsensical attempts to relate Ashkenazi Jews to middle are mere interpolation by judeo-christian zionists that controls the narratives


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESxmBrwNn_U?si=sYRbOCjPquX5Mn6m


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vEKp0200jQ?si=SPuF9Nf8CeSi16kJ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWtWGisF0Cg?si=1laFKwdBsThbosPu

Native Americans also want to return and reclaim America.

Aboriginals want to return to reclaim Australia.

Native Canadians want to return to reclaim Canada.

Native New Zealand also want to return to reclaim their land.

So you think current American, Canadian, Australian and New Zealand govts will allow that?. Why should Palestinians allow the Jews to reclaim their "historical land"?. Why is it allowed for the Palestinians to tolerate them back but America, Australia, Canada etc can not tolerate the indigenous people to return?.

I read some of your previous submissions and your logic is baseless. I don't know where you are from in Nigeria but let assume you are a Yoruba person. Do you know that Yoruba originated from Arabia?. Yoruba forefathers migrated from Sudan, Yemen, Saudi, and Egypt. So is it commonsensical for modern Yoruba people to migrate to these aforementioned places to reclaim them just because your forefathers migrated from there?. So your baseless defense that the European Jews are relative to Palestine is rubbish. See my post above.

European Jews (Ashkenazi Jews) that currently occupied Palestine (Israel) are not middle Eastern..they are not relative to the land. They are proselyte (converts).


Even native Americans have more right to return to reclaim America than for the Jews to return to Palestine because Israelites were obliterated thousands of years ago but native American were just few hundreds years ago.

Babinski:


Please check the definition of indigenous for proper understanding, so you can see the folly in your claim about the current inhabitants of Nigeria.

Please use the link below to access resources on the UN website to educate yourself about the UÑ Charter and its powers.

https://www.un.org/en/about-us/un-charter

However it is my observation that you appear not to read in-depth and only gloss over things with consequential effect on your ability to logically and reasonably defend your position with verifiable facts and references. This is because if you read the links I posted in my earlier response, you would have seen they were comments posted by me to debunk the lies being parroted around by your ilk. I provided them so as not to waste time repeating myself on issues. Debunk them with verifiable and reasonable evidence rather than parroting unsubstantiated statements.

Alluding to the one minute YouTube video post by your purported Elder statesman in Nigeria as credible evidence or facts is laughable and indicative of your depth of reasoning. First, it is instructive that comments are disabled on the post ostensibly to prevent the bursting of the bubble of the fabricator masquerading as an authority on a subject clearly beyond his capabilities. Secondly, the video is at best the opinion of the maker who is not a known authority on African History much less Middle Eastern history.

Educate your.mind and let it grow beyond beer palour gossips where you adjudicate over matters while inebriated and yet think you are reasonable. Learn to cite facts rather than worthless opinions.

Jews who don't support Israel

The world's moral army indeed

https://youtube.com/shorts/yXS_3JbGhTs?si=QyvvvK8MYrUPEFLd

Oct 7 people, gather here

tctrills:

You came here just to insult me and make statements without any prove.
Typical behavior of the Hamas mob.
You boys are all the same. Sentimental and childish.
Anyway. I am used to you boys.
You've had the opportunity to explain to me and the rest of the world how this is different from every other war but as usual, you can.
How would you explain to your kids that this particular war is genocide and other wars are not? Or will you just force it down their brains that this was a genocide?

I have explained and I keep explaining but you decide to do what you felt was right.
If you refuse to see evil that even Joe Biden even threatened it won't approve sale of weapons to terrorist Israeli government and all the protest going on on American universities?
It's either your intentionally daft or just deliberately blind in supporting evil.

Now,get this,I don't care who the hell you are or what you do or support in this ,but I know deep down you are a EVIL human being with no conscience.
Your pretending to be objective and trying to sound meeky and it has not mask you as one.

You can now get LOST!

Friend22:


I have explained and I keep explaining but you decide to do what you felt was right.
If you refuse to see evil that even Joe Biden even threatened it won't approve sale of weapons to terrorist Israeli government and all the protest going on on American universities?
It's either your intentionally daft or just deliberately blind in supporting evil.

Now,get this,I don't care who the hell you are or what you do or support in this ,but I know deep down you are a EVIL human being with no conscience.
Your pretending to be objective and trying to sound meeky and it has not mask you as one.

You can now get LOST!

This child,
I have been the one doing all the explaining. The only thing you have done is inform me that you guys are in the majority and give me a list of people on your team.
To me, your approach is naive and childish and it shows that you are not making use of your brain but depending on others to think for you.
Clearly you are not a very sound person
Have a good day.

tctrills:

This child,
I have been the one doing all the explaining. The only thing you have done is inform me that you guys are in the majority and give me a list of people on your team.
To me, your approach is naive and childish and it shows that you are not making use of your brain but depending on others to think for you.
Have a good day.

Me and you who be child?

You are not explaining anything.

You are only regurgitating what you see on CNN and BBC.
I know your type too well.

[quote author=Friend22 post=129929267]



Me and you who be child?

You are not explaining anything.

You are only regurgitating what you see on CNN and BBC.
I know your type too well.

Friend22:




Me and you who be child?

You are not explaining anything.

You are only regurgitating what you see on CNN and BBC.
I know your type too well.

Let's assume that I was regurgitating CNN and BBC, but at least I was able to answer all your questions.
On the other hand, you keep making this a popularity contest. I agree those on your side are more in number but I am able to think and choose for myself which is something you are not capable of doing.
Till today, you still don't know why you are against Israel.
You asked 3 questions, and I answered all beautifully.
Then I asked you just one question and you are unable to answer.
Again, mention the wars that don't have innocent civilian casualties?
If you can't answer this, don't bother repling.

tctrills:

Let's assume that I was regurgitating CNN and BBC, but at least I was able to answer all your questions.
On the other hand, you keep making this a popularity contest. I agree those on your side are more in number but I am able to think and choose for myself which is something you are not capable of doing.
Till today, you still don't know why you are against Israel.
You asked 3 questions, and I answered all beautifully.
Then I asked you just one question and you are unable to answer.
Again, mention the wars that don't have innocent civilian casualties?
If you can't answer this, don't bother repling.

Keep overestimating the rubbish you wrote.

You did not answer any of the questions.
You were basically evading the questions through false equivalence.
Your comparison of Ukraine to Palestine is such an unreasonable approach that I actually stopped reading the drivel you wrote.

Israel as it is today is an occupier and this occupier is being sponsored and supported by Western powers that be.

Did you even know that as at 1948 the state of Israel was not in the world map?

Do you know how they arrive Palestine?

Do your know the Balfur declaration?

Do you know how the Nakhba took place?

Do you know?
Do you know?

Imagine ,if Fulani herdsmen that you guys keep complaining about in the South happens to take over your lands and drive you out of your homelands and they are supported by powers that be ,will you say this is just a war when your people fight back to reclaim their lands just like Hamas are doing?
Will you call it war of casualties if these fulanis keep bombing and killing your people including innocent women and children out smithereens?

Will you?!

I know you will come again with one confused and beautiful nonsense and claim your answered my questions while you know you are just playing the ostrich.

Keep playing this game I know you're enjoying this attention.
Enjoy it while it last.


That's the Balfour declaration below if you can objectively read it since those who decide to brainwash you hides this from your likes


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2018/11/2/more-than-a-century-on-the-balfour-declaration-explained&ved=2ahUKEwiU0LD7_oqGAxWci_0HHZSjA54QFnoECBoQBQ&usg=AOvVaw3CyFlr3b5Dh_murRdaK0Rs

Yup

Friend22:



Keep overestimating the rubbish you wrote.

You did not answer any of the questions.
You were basically evading the questions through false equivalence.
Your comparison of Ukraine to Palestine is such an unreasonable approach that I actually stopped reading the drivel you wrote.

Israel as it is today is an occupier and this occupier is being sponsored and supported by Western powers that be.

Did you even know that as at 1948 the state of Israel was not in the world map?

Do you know how they arrive Palestine?

Do your know the Balfur declaration?

Do you know how the Nakhba took place?

Do you know?
Do you know?

Imagine ,if Fulani herdsmen that you guys keep complaining about in the South happens to take over your lands and drive you out of your homelands and they are supported by powers that be ,will you say this is just a war when your people fight back to reclaim their lands just like Hamas are doing?
Will you call it war of casualties if these fulanis keep bombing and killing your people including innocent women and children out smithereens?

Will you?!

I know you will come again with one confused and beautiful nonsense and claim your answered my questions while you know you are just playing the ostrich.

Keep playing this game I know you're enjoying this attention.
Enjoy it while it last.


That's the Balfour declaration below if you can objectively read it since those who decide to brainwash you hides this from your likes


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2018/11/2/more-than-a-century-on-the-balfour-declaration-explained&ved=2ahUKEwiU0LD7_oqGAxWci_0HHZSjA54QFnoECBoQBQ&usg=AOvVaw3CyFlr3b5Dh_murRdaK0Rs

Again in your long episode, you couldn't show how Israel was at fault.
Everything you wrote, I know but clearly that's all you know.
If you want me to teach you the history, I will.
I asked you a question you still have no answer to tell me any war that doesn't have civilian casualties.
Lastly you claim I did not answer your questions. But we both know that's a lie. You should have said that you had no come back from my answers.
Now to some history lesson,
There have been Jews living in that land even before the Balfour declaration.
Do you know that Jews lived in that land in the Roman times.
Do you know that Jews lived in that land in the time of the Mulads
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_under_Muslim_rule
Do you know that Jews lived in that land under the Ottoman
[url]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_the_Ottoman_Empire
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Please when you get serious and are ready to learn, I will be here to teach you
Just because you read about the Balfour declaration, you thought you know anything?
Now do you know how the Arabs got to that land?
My boy, you know nothing.
In my next post. I will give you a full lecture on the history of both the Jews and the so called Palestinians in that land

These are biblical people right?

The United States should not Veto this resolution!

[quote author=tctrills post=129939050]
Again in your long episode, you couldn't show how Israel was at fault.
Everything you wrote, I know but clearly that's all you know.
If you want me to teach you the history, I will.
I asked you a question you still have no answer to tell me any war that doesn't have civilian casualties.
Lastly you claim I did not answer your questions. But we both know that's a lie. You should have said that you had no come back from my answers.
Now to some history lesson,
There have been Jews living in that land even before the Balfour declaration.
Do you know that Jews lived in that land in the Roman times.
Do you know that Jews lived in that land in the time of the Mulads
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_under_Muslim_rule
Do you know that Jews lived in that land under the Ottoman
[url]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_the_Ottoman_Empire
[/url]
Please when you get serious and are ready to learn, I will be here to teach you
Just because you read about the Balfour declaration, you thought you know anything?
Now do you know how the Arabs got to that land?
My boy, you know nothing.
In my next post. I will give you a full lecture on the history of both the Jews and the so called Palestinians in that land
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You want to lecture me?
What is the world turning into? an ignoramus want to lecture me on land claims?
Wonder shall never end.

Why should I continue to engage you,when all you've been reeling out are outright lies!

The land of Palestine has been in existence; according to the Bible and the Jews as a community never really had it as their ancestral home.

From Genesis to Exodus which is perhaps the document you could possibly pick from do not have such claim as Palestine being the specific Jewish home land,it has been your thinking to see it that way.

If your claim of "old means right ",then Palestine can also claim their forefathers lived there before the coming of Abraham and his sons on that land.
The father of the Jews through Isaac is not from Palestine but from Babylon which is in today's Iraq.
If the Jews are to claim a land,if I were to follow your erratic but seemingly stable logic of "ancestral claim" then they should go to Iraq where their grand father (Abraham) migrated from.

If we follow the view of the conquerors claim then Palestinians are in their ancestral homeland and the occupier is Israel.

I know you will argue all day just to show how wrong you are!

Keep it up.

[quote author=Friend22 post=129964532][/quote]
How do you mean the land was not their Ancestral home when the children of Israel remain the only people to have built an independent nation on that land?
You claim that I am lying but this is the era of the internet, you can and should verify. I know I said things you have never heard before but it will take only 5 minutes for you to verify so stop being lazy my dear friend.
The Palestinians have no such claim to the land. They are Arabs hence children of Abraham so how could their fathers live in the land before Abraham?
Talking about Iraq, I am sure you don't know that about 150,000 Jews were kicked out of Iraq by your Arab bros in the late 40s and early 50s.

Again, we the dates. The Arabs took over that land in the year 658 AD. That 6 centuries after Jesus Christ and 1500 years after King David so how did they get they before the Children of Israel?
Please go and verify then ask yourself how you ended up supporting and spoilt foolish, and idle people whose only job is troublemaking. and who have zero claims to the land they are fighting for,

I Stand With PALESTINE just like New York City's Metropolitan Transportation Authority Stands With Palestine