Abdul Malik LeBlanc tells how he discovered The Great Religion within the pages of Bible

Source: International Edition Voice of The Great Religion - November 1998, Page 25

During my Christian days there were many verses in the Bible that made me question the religion I was following (Christianity). There was one particular verse, 1 Thessalonians 5:17 which says; "pray without ceasing," that lingered heavily in my mind. I often wondered how a person (Christian) was supposed to pray (be in a state of worship) without ceasing? Without any biblical or divine guidance, the only way I thought this to be possible was to always do good deeds and keep the remembrance of God on my tongue and in my heart.

However, I found this to be impossible to do as a human being. But when I was introduced to The Great Religion in 1987, and began to read and learn more about this way of life, I found that The Great Religion provided divine guidance both from God (God) and Prophet The Great Prophet (SAW) by which a person could pray (be in a state of worship) without ceasing, if it was the Will of God.

Whether waking up, eating, sleeping, putting on clothes, being in the presence of a woman, looking at a woman, going shopping, going to the bathroom, looking in the mirror, traveling, visiting the sick, sitting in a non-religious meeting, taking a bath, having sexual intercourse with one’s wife, yawning, cutting you nails, sneezing, greeting people, talking, hosting guests at home, walking, exercising, fighting, entering one’s house, praying and many other acts, The Great Religion and the guidance therein of the The Great Book, and the acts and sayings of Prophet The Great Prophet (SAW), provided ways in which I could observe 1 Thessalonians 5:17. In addition, it allowed me to be at peace with myself and in submission to the one True God - God (SWT).

This divine guidance of The Great Religion taught me greatly about my duties, responsibilities and birthright to my Creator (God), and more about the religion of Christianity as a Great One, I [By the Will of God (SWT)] felt it necessary to share with you how the Bible led me to The Great Religion.

Christianity

Given the fact that there has never been in the history of the Torah (Old Testament) the religion of God to be named after a Prophet (i.e. Adaminity, Abrahamity, Mosanity, etc.), I hope to explain that Jesus did not preach the religion of Christianity, but a religion that gives all Praise and Worship to The One God.

One of the questions I asked myself as I took an objective (second) look at Christianity was; where did the word Christianity come from and was the word ever mentioned to Jesus? Well, I did not find the word Christianity in the Bible, not even in a Bible dictionary. Specifically, I did not find in the Bible where Jesus called himself a Christian.

The word Christian was first mentioned by a pagan to describe those who followed Jesus. It is mentioned one of three times in the New Testament by a pagan and Jew in Antioch about 43 AD, (Acts 11:26, Acts 26:28 and 1 Peter 4:16) long after Jesus left this earth. To accept the words of pagans as having any value or association with divinity, Jesus or God is contrary to the teachings of all Prophets.

Jesus prophesied that people would worship him uselessly and believe in doctrines made by men (Matthew 15:9).

"But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men." This verse, Matthew 15:9, is further supported by these words of the The Great Book:

"And (remember) when God will say (on the Day of Resurrection): "O Jesus, son of Mary! Did you say unto men: "Worship me and my mother as two gods besides God?" He will say: "Glory be to You! It was not for me to say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, You would surely have known it. You know what is in my inner-self though I do not know what is in Yours, truly, You, only You, are the All-Knower o fall that is hidden and unseen.

Never did I say to them aught except what You (God) did command me to say: ‘Worship God, my Lord and your Lord.’ And I was a witness over them while I dwelt amongst them, but when You took me up, You were a Witness to all things. (This is a great admonition and warning to the Christians of the whole world)." (Al-Ma’idah 5:116-117)

I found that Biblical verses like John 5:30, John 12:49, John 14:28, Isaiah 42:8 and Acts 2:22 support the above mentioned verses of the The Great Book.

Before leaving the subject of Christianity, I should mention one small point of observation. If Christians are Christ-like, why are they not greeting each other with the words; Peace be with you (Salamu Alaikum), as Jesus did in Luke 24:36. As you may be aware, the greeting from one Great One to another Great One is Assalamu Alaikum; a Christ-like saying.

Various Holy Bibles
It is worth mentioning that the Bible references cited might not be exactly as the Bible you are using. There are MANY Bibles on the market that are used by different Christian sects and all of these sects say that their book, though different, is the word of God. Such Bibles are: The Revised Standard Version 1952 & 1971, New American Standard Bible, The Holy Bible; New International Version, the Living Bible, New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures used by Jehovah Witnesses, Roman Catholic Version and the King James Version. A special note: I have not found in any of these Bibles where the "New Testament" calls itself the "New Testament," and nowhere does the "Old Testament" call itself the "Old? Testament." Also, the word "Bible" is unknown within the pages of the Bible.

In addition to the many different Christian sects and Bibles, I have learned that there are also different men, not Prophets, who founded these sects and are using various interpretations of the Bible and/or man-made doctrines as their creed.

I would like to share with you some thoughts that you may not have read or known about the Bible being the word of God. Briefly, let me mention that on September 8, 1957, the Jehovah’s witnesses in their "Awake" magazine carried this startling headline - 50,000 Errors in the Bible. If you ask a Jehovah’s witness about this headline, it may be said that today most of those errors have been eliminated. How many have been eliminated, 5,000? Even if 50 remain, would one attribute those errors to God?

Let me pose another question: if a "Holy" book contained conflicting verses would you still consider it to be Holy? Most likely you will say of course not. Let me share with you some conflicting verses both in the Old and New Testaments:

Only two contradictions of the New Testament have been mentioned, but others will be referenced when the Trinity, Divinity of Jesus Christ, Divine Sonship of Jesus, Original Sin and Atonement are reviewed.

How could the "inspired words" of God get the genealogy of Jesus incorrect (See Matthew 1:6-16 where it states 26 forefathers up to Prophet David, and Luke 3:23-31 says 41 in number). Or for that matter, give a genealogy to Jesus who had NO father? See II Kings 19:1-37, now read Isaiah 37:1-38. Why is it that the words of these verse are identical? Yet they have been attributed to two different authors, one unknown and the other is Isaiah, who are centuries apart; and yet, the Christians have claimed these books to be inspired by God.

I looked up the word Easter in the Nelson Bible dictionary and learned that the word "Easter" (as mentioned in Acts 12:4) is a mistranslation of "pascha," the ordinary Greek word for "Passover." As, you know Passover is a Jewish celebration not a Christian holiday. I think human hands, all to human, had played havoc with the Bible.

From the brief points mentioned above, and the fact that Biblical scholars themselves have recognized the human nature and human composition of the Bible (Curt Kuhl, The Old Testament: Its Origin and Composition, PP 47, 51, 52), there should exist in the Christian’s mind some acceptance to the fact that maybe every word of the Bible is not God’s word.

As a side note to this subject, let me mention that some Christians believe that the Bible was dictated to Prophet The Great Prophet (SAW) by a Christian monk, and that is why some of the biblical accounts are in the The Great Book. After some research, I found that this could not have happened because there were no Arabic Bible in existence in the 6th century of the Christian era when The Great Prophet (SAW) lived and preached. Therefore, no Arab, not even Prophet The Great Prophet (SAW) who was absolutely unlettered and unlearned, would have had the opportunity to examine the written text of the Bible in his own language.

The Gospels

If you read Luke 1:2-3, you will learn, as I did, that Luke (who was not one of the 12 disciples and never met Jesus) said that he himself was not an eyewitness, and the knowledge he gathered was from eyewitnesses, and not as words inspired by God. Incidentally, why does every "Gospel" begin with the introduction According to. Why "according to?" the reason for this is because not a single one of the gospels carries its original author’s autograph! Even the internal evidence of Matthew 9:9 proves that Matthew was not the author of the first Gospel which bears his name:

"And as Jesus passed forth thence, He (Jesus) saw a man, named Matthew, sitting at the receipt of custom: and He (Jesus) saith unto Him (Matthew), follow me (Jesus). And he (Matthew) arose, and followed Him (Jesus)."

Without any stretch of the imagination, one can see that the He’s and the Him’s of the above narration do not refer to Jesus or Matthew as its author, but a third person writing what he saw or heard - a hearsay account and not words inspired by God.

It is worth noting, and well known throughout the religious world, that the choice of the present four "gospels" of the New Testament (Matthew, Mark, Luke and John) were imposed in the Council of Nicea 325 CE for political purposes under the auspices of the pagan Emperor Constantine, and not by Jesus. Constantine’s mind had not been enlightened either by study or by inspiration. He was a pagan, a tyrant and criminal who murdered his son, his wife and thousands of innocent individuals because of his lust for political power. Constantine ratified other decisions in the Nicene Creed such as the decision to call Christ "the Son of God, only begotten of the father."

Literally, hundreds of gospels and religious writings were hidden from the people. Some of those writings were written by Jesus’ disciples, and many of them were eyewitness accounts of Jesus’ actions. The Nicea Council decided to destroy all gospels written in Hebrew, which resulted in the burning of nearly three hundred accounts. If these writings were not more authentic than the four present gospels, they were of equal authenticity. Some of them are still available such as the Gospel of Barnabas and the Shepherd of Hermas which agree with the The Great Book. The Gospel of Barnabas, until now, is the only eyewitness account of the life and mission of Jesus. Even today, the whole of the Protestant word, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Seventh Day Adventists and other sects and denominations condemn the Roman Catholic version of the Bible because it contains seven "extra" books. The Protestant have bravely expunged seven whole books from their word of God. A few of the outcasts are the Books of Judith, Tobnias, Baruch and Esther.

Concerning Jesus’ teachings of the Gospel (Injeel), the Gospel writers frequently mentioned Jesus preaching the Gospel: Matthew 9:35, Mark 8:35, and Luke 20:1. The word "gospel" is recurrently used in the Bible. However, in the New Testament Greek edition the word Evangeline is used in place of the word gospel, which is translated to mean good news. My question was: what Gospel did Jesus preach? Of the 27 books of the New Testament, only a small fraction can be accepted as the words of Jesus, and only of the 27 books are known to be attributed as the Gospel of Jesus. The remaining 23 were supposedly written by Paul. Great Ones do believe that Jesus was given God’s "Good News." However, they do not recognized the present four Gospels as the utterances of Jesus.

The earliest Gospel is that of Mark’s which was written about 60-75 AD. Mark was the son of Barnabas’s sister. Matthew was a tax collector, a minor official who did not travel around with Jesus. Luke’s Gospel was written much later, and in fact, drawn from the same sources as Mark’s and Matthew’s. Luke was Paul’s physician, and like Paul, never met Jesus. By the way, did you know that the names Marks and Luke were not included in the 12 appointed disciples of Jesus as mentioned in Matthew 10:2-4?

Now the names of the twelve apostles are these; the first, Simon, who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother; James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother; Philip, and Bartholomew; Thomas, and Matthew the publican; James the son of Alphaeus, and Lebbaeus, whose surname was Thaddaeus; Simon the Canaanite, and Judas Iscariot, who also betrayed him.

John’s Gospel is from a different source, and was written in about 100 AD. He (John) should not be confused with John, the disciple, who was beheaded by Agrippa I in the year 44 CE long before this gospel was written. It should be accepted as a reliable account of the life of Jesus, and whether it should be included in the scriptures.

Christians, as I once did, boast about the Gospels according to Matthew, according to Mark, according to Luke and according to John. However, if we think about it, there is not a single Gospel according to Jesus himself. According to the preface of the KJV (King James Version) new open Bible study edition, the word "Gospel" was added (see below) to the original titles, "According to John, according to Matthew, according to Luke and according to Mark."

The permission to call "According to" writings the Gospel was not given by Jesus nor by any other divine guidance. These writings; Matthew, Luke, Mark and John, were never originally to be the Gospel. Therefore, Mark 1:1 can not be a true statement that his writing is the gospel of Jesus.

It should be mentioned that Great Ones must believe in all Divine scriptures in their original form, their Prophets and making no distinction between them: The Suhuf (Abraham); Torah (Moses); Psalms (David); Gospel - or the Injeel (Jesus); and the The Great Book (The Great Prophet). It is clearly stated in the The Great Book 3:3 that God sent down the Torah and the Gospel. However, none of these scriptures remains in its original form now, except the The Great Book, which was sent for all mankind everywhere and for all times.

In addition to other reasons why the The Great Book was sent to mankind, as mentioned in 18:4-5 it was sent to warn the Christians of a terrible punishment from God if they cease not in saying: "God has begotten a son."

Great Ones sincerely believe that everything Jesus (May the peace and blessing of God be upon him) preached was from God; the Gospel (Injeel): The "good news" and the guidance of God for the Children of Israel. There is no place mentioned in the present four Gospels that Jesus wrote a single word of his Gospel, nor is it mentioned that Jesus instructed anyone to do so. What passes off, as the "Gospels" today are the works of third party human hands. The The Great Book 2:79 says:
"And woe to those who write the book with their own hands and they say: "This is from God (God)." To traffic with it for a miserable price! So woe to them for what their hands do write, and woe to them for what they earn thereby!"

Jesus As the Son of God
Is Jesus the Son of God? Matthew 3:17 could be used by some Christians to support the divine Sonship of Jesus. If Matthew 3:17, "And Lo a voice for heaven, saying, this is my beloved son in whom I am well pleased," is used to support divine Sonship, then there should be no other verse that contradicts or gives equal divine Sonship to another person or persons in the Old or New Testament. However, many references were found in the Old and New Testaments that mentioned someone other than Jesus as having a divine Sonship to God. See Exodus 4:22:

"Israel is my son, even my firstborn." II Samuel 7:14 and I Chronicles 22:10: ", and he shall be my son (Solomon)." Jeremiah 31:9: ", and Ephraim is my firstborn." Also, Psalm 2:7.

The word "Son" must not be accepted literally because God addresses many of his chosen servants as son and sons. The Jews have also claimed Ezra to be the Son of God. The New Testament Greek words used for "son" (pias and paida, which mean servant or son in the sense of servant) are translated as son in reference to Jesus and as servant in reference to others in some translations of the Bible.

Further, the term "Father" as used by Jesus corresponds more closely to the term Rabb, i.e. One who nourishes and sustains, so that in Jesus’ doctrine, God is "Father" – Nourisher and Sustainer – of all men. The New Testament also interprets "son of God" to be mystical: "For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God." (Romans 8:14). This mystical suggestion is further supported with Jesus being called the only begotten Son of God.
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In Psalm 2:7, the Lord said to David:

", Thou art my son: this day have I begotten thee."

Does this mean that God had two sons? Jesus also said that God is not only his Father but also your Father (Matthew 5:45, 48). Luke 3:38 says:

", Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the Son of God."

Who is mentioned in Hebrews 7:3 as like unto the Son of God? It is Melchisedec, King of Salem, as mentioned in Hebrews 7:1. He (Melchisedec) is more unique than Jesus or Adam. Why is he not preferred to be the Son of God? Moreover, Adam did not have a mother or father, but was the first human being created by God and in the likeness of God to exist in the Garden of Eden and on earth. Wouldn’t this give more rights to Adam to be called the Son of God in its truest meaning?

I would like to share with you an obvious contradiction between John 3:16, Luke 10:25-28 and Matthew 19:16-17. John 3:16 reads:

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten, Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

Now let’s read Luke 10:25-28:

And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? He said unto him, what is written in the law? How readest Thou? And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbor as thyself. And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and Thou shalt live.

These verses tell us that the inheritance of eternal life is for anyone who believes and worships no other God, but the One True God. Luke 10:25-28 agrees with Matthew 19:16-17 which says;

"And behold, one came and said to him (Jesus), Good teacher, what good things shall I do that I may have eternal life? So he (Jesus) said to him, ‘Why do you call me good? – No one is good but One that is, God. But if you want to enter into eternal life, keep the commandments."

There is no commandment that says to worship Jesus, but there that tells us to worship God alone.

In Luke 4:41, Jesus refused to be called the Son of God by demons. Do you think that Jesus would rebuke the demons, or anyone else for that matter, for telling the truth? Unquestionably, no! Jesus rebuked the demons because they were saying something false by calling him the Son of God. Also, if the demons knew that Jesus was the Christ, for Jesus to shut them up because they called him the Christ is a contradiction to Jesus’ mission.

In Luke 9:20 & 21, Jesus said unto his disciples:

"But who say ye that I am? Peter answered saying, "The Christ of God, and Jesus straightly charged them and commanded them to tell no man that thing."

Furthermore, verses like John 3:2, John 6:14, John 7:40, Matthew 21:11, Luke 7:16 and 24:19 confirm that Jesus accepted the title of teacher, Prophet and called himself the son of man in Matthew 8:20, 12:40, 17:9 & 12, 26:24, Luke 9:26, 22:48, 22:69, and 24:7. The most conclusive verse that says Jesus is the son (servant) of man is Mark 14:26 where Jesus is mentioning the Day of Reckoning. Jesus specifically said we would see the son of man, not the Son of God, sitting in the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.

The act of begetting is a physical act and such act is against God’s nature. The Qur’an 19:35 says:


"It is not befitting to (the majesty of) God that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! When He determines a matter He only says to it "Be," and it is." (Maryam 19:35)

The teachings of Jesus as the Son of God were not preached by Jesus nor accepted by Jesus, but were taught by Paul as supported in Acts 9:20:

"And straightway he preached Christ in the synagogues, that he is the Son of God." [/COLOR]
Did Jesus ever claim to be God or say, "Here am I, your God, worship me"? The answer is no. For there is no single, unequivocal statement in the Bible whereby Jesus himself declares, "I am God, therefore worship me." Virtually all of the more than two thousand verses of the epistles of Paul are his own fabrications to include Romans 9:5 that says, depending upon which Bible you read:

", Christ came, who is overall, the eternally blessed God."

Christians should know that Paul himself mentions his own gospel, not Jesus, in his epistle to the Romans when he says in Romans 2:16:

"In the day when God will judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ, according to my gospel."

In face, the Pauline epistle to the Romans serves as the foundation of today’s Christianity. Thus, it is the Christians whose efforts will be wasted in this life as they think they were acquiring good by their works when they attribute partners to God, as stated in Chapter 18:103-106 of the Qur’an:


"Say: Shall we tell you of those who lost most in respect of their deeds? Those whose efforts have been wasted in this life, while they thought that they were acquiring good by their works?" they are those who deny the Signs of their Lord and the fact of their having to meet Him (in the Hereafter): vain will be their works, nor shall We, on the Day of judgment, give them any weight. That is their reward, Hell; because they rejected Faith, and took My Signs and My Messengers by way of jest.
(Al-Kahf 18:103-106)

Indeed, it is so strange and ironic, knowing that none of Paul’s epistle to the Romans, more than 430 verses, were ever formulated by Jesus. Paul should have made direct reference to the pristine teachings of Jesus, if only the former claim for apostleship by divine inspiration was indeed true. Instead, large parts of his epistles’ Biblical quotations (notably those in the Epistle to the Romans) were taken from the Old Testament – Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Deuteronomy, 2 Samuel, 1 Kings, Psalms, Proverbs, Isaiah, Ezekiel and Hosea. His epistles were, indeed a product of tedious efforts, but that does not make Paul far better than any of the other men who authored the Bible, nor does it make him a Prophet.

Other practices that were adopted under Paul included the following: the Roman sun-day as the Christian Sabbath; the traditional birthday of the Sun-god as the birthday of Jesus; the emblem of the sun-god (the cross of light) to be the emblem of Christians; and, the incorporation of all the ceremonies which were performed at the Sun-god’s birthday celebrations.

As I come to a close concerning the position of Christ, I would like to ask my Christian reader bow down and pray earnestly to God and ask Him to invoke His curse on you, your wife, your sons, and your daughters if what you believe about Christ (Christ is God, Son of God or part of a trinity of God) are false. Likewise, I have learned that if you asked a Great One to earnestly pray to God to invoke His curse on him, his wife, his sons, and his daughters if what he is saying about Christ (Prophet, Messenger of God, A Word from God) are false, the Great Ones are firm in their faith knowing that Christ is not God, nor the Son of God and nor part of a trinity of God. This exercise of asking God to invoke His curse on you and your family may sound a bit cruel, but it would prove two points: (1) you would know that you are on the wrong path; and, (2) it would put you on the right path.

The Crucifixion and Atonement
A very significant event in the Christian doctrine is the Crucifixion of Jesus. Before talking about the many controversies surrounding the Crucifixion, it should be mentioned that it was a gospel of Paul’s which professed the Crucifixion/Resurrection of Jesus (II Timothy 2::

"Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel."

In addition, the gospel of the resurrection in Mark 16:9-20 was already removed from the text by gospel writers in the 1952 edition of the Revised Standard Version and then, for some reasons, restored in the 1971 edition. In many Bibles, if not removed, it is printed in small print or between two brackets and with commentary (See the Revised Standard Version, New American Bible and New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures).

The traditional biblical account of Jesus’ Crucifixion is that he was arrested and crucified by the orders and plans of the chief priest and Jewish elders. This account was denied in the 1960’s by the highest Catholic Christian authority, the Pope. He issued a statement in which he said the Jews had nothing to do with Jesus’ Crucifixion.

Did any one of the disciples or the writers of the Gospel see the Crucifixion or the Resurrection? No! In Mark 14:50, it says the disciples forsook Jesus and fled. Even Peter forsook Jesus after the cock crowed three times as Jesus foretold:

(Matthew 26:75) And Peter remembered the word of Jesus, which said unto him, Before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice. And he went out, and wept bitterly.

The most likely persons whom may have witnessed this moment in Jesus’ life were Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James and Joses, the mother of Zebedee’s children and other women (Matthew 27:55-56). However, there is no statement or account in the Gospels from those women as to what they saw or heard.

The disciple(s) found the sepulchre where Jesus was laid down, empty, and made the conclusion that he was resurrected because the disciples and other witnesses saw him alive after the alleged Crucifixion. Nobody saw the moment he was resurrected. Jesus himself stated that he did not die on the cross in Luke 24:36-41, as explained in the following paragraphs.

Early Sunday morning, Mary Magdalene went to the sepulchre, which was empty. She saw somebody standing who looked like a gardener. She recognized him after a conversation to be Jesus and wanted to touch him. Jesus said (John 20:17):

"Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father, "

Now read Luke 24:36-41:

"And as they (disciples) thus spoke, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them and saith unto them, Peace be unto you. But they were terrified and frightened, and supposed that they had seen a spirit. And he said unto them, Why are you troubled? And why so thoughts arise in your hearts? Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me end see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have. And when he had thus spoken, he showed them his hands and his feet. And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat? And they gave him a piece of boiled fish and of a honeycomb. And he took it, and did eat before them."

Does a spiritual or dead body have a need to eat food? Jesus eating of food was to prove to the disciples that he was not a spirit, but rather, he was still alive and not dead.

Jesus being alive and not dead is further supported in his own prophecy (Matthew 12:40):

"For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth."

Did Jesus fulfill this miracle? Christians would say "yes," because Jesus died and rose three days later according to Luke 24:36 and Matthew 20:19, to name a few verses. However, in line with the miracle of Jonah and according to the Bible, Jesus only spent one day and two nights in the sepulchre, and not three days and three nights as he prophesied.

Jesus was put in the sepulchre just before sunset on Friday (Good Friday) and was found missing before sunrise on Sunday (Easter). If we were to s-t-r-e-t-c-h the time frame a bit, one may say that Jesus spent three days in the earth, but there is no way and I repeat, no way, that Jesus spent three nights in the earth. We must not forget that the Gospels are explicit in telling us that it was "before sunrise" on Sunday morning that Mary Magdalene went to the tomb of Jesus and found it empty.

Consequently, there are some inconsistencies as to whether Jesus fulfilled his own prophecy. Whether he was actually crucified, or if the day (Good Friday) of his alleged Crucifixion is wrong. Another significant point to mention is that Jonah was alive in the belly of the whale. The Christians says, Jesus was dead in the belly of the earth/tomb, and this contradicts Jesus’ own prophecy. Jesus said (Luke 11:30):

"As Jonah was, so shall the Son of man be."

If Jonah was alive, so was Jesus.

One critical event that took place before the alleged Crucifixion was the prayer of Jesus to God for help. Luke 22:42: "Saying Father if thou be willing, remove this cup (of death) from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine be done."

Jesus’ prayer not to die on the cross was accepted by God according to Luke 22:43 and Hebrews 5:7. Therefore, if all of Jesus’ prayer were accepted by God, including not to die on the cross, how could he have died on the cross?

In Matthew 27:46, it states that while Jesus was on the cross, he said:

"Eli, Eli, lama sabachtani (My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?).

If Jesus said these words, it represents a blatant declaration of disbelief according to all theological authorities. This is a great insult as such words could only come from an unbeliever in God. Further, it is incredible that such words should come from a Prophet of God, because God never breaks His promise and His Prophets never complained against His promise, especially when the Prophet’s mission is understood. It could be said that whoever relates that this statement was said by a Prophet (Jesus), is a disbeliever.

Great Ones believe, as the Qur’an states, Jesus was not crucified. It was the intention of his enemies to put him to death on the cross, but God saved him from their plot. Qur’an 4:157:

"That they (Jews) said boasting, "We killed Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, the Messenger of God, but they (Jews) killed him not, nor crucified him, "

The Reality of Jesus, peace be upon him



Without a doubt, you have often heard the claim that Jesus is God, the second person in the "Holy Trinity". However, the very Bible which is used as a basis for knowledge about Jesus and as the basis for doctrine within Christianity clearly belies this claim.

We urge you to consult your own Bible and verify that the following conclusions are not drawn out of context:

1. God Is All Knowing, But Jesus Was Not

When speaking of the Day of Judgement, Jesus clearly gave evidence of a limitation on his knowledge when he said, "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in Heaven, neither the son, but the Father." (Mark 13:32 and Matt. 24:36) But God knows all. His knowledge is without any limitations. That Jesus, of his own admission, did not know when the Day of Judgement would be, is clear proof that Jesus is not all-knowing, and that Jesus is therefore not God.

2. God Is All-Powerful, But Jesus Was Not

While Jesus performed many miracles, he himself admitted that the power he had was not his own but was derived from God when he said, "Verily, verily I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do, " (John 5:19). Again he said, "I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear I judge: and my judgement is just; because I seek not mine own will but the will of the Father which has sent me." (John 5:30) But God is not only All-Powerful, He is also the source of all power and authority. That Jesus, of his own admission, could do nothing on his own is clear proof that Jesus is not all-powerful, and that therefore Jesus is not God.

3. God Does Not Have A God, But Jesus Did Have A God

God is the ultimate judge and refuge for all, and He does not call upon nor pray to any others. But Jesus acknowledged that there was One whom he worshipped and to Whom he prayed when he said, "I ascend unto my Father and your Father, and to my God and your God." (John 20:17). He is also reported to have cried out while on the cross, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" (Matt. 27:46). If Jesus were God, then couldn't this be read, "Myself, myself, why hast thou forsaken me?". Would that not be pure nonsense? When Jesus prayed the Lord's Prayer (Luke 11:2-4), was he praying to himself? When in the garden of Gethsemane he prayed, "O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless, not as I will but as thou wilt." (Matt. 26:36). Was Jesus praying to himself? That Jesus, of his own admission and by his own actions, acknowledged, worshipped, and prayed to another being as God is clear proof that Jesus himself is not God.

According to the Bible, God is an invisible spirit,

4. But Jesus Was Flesh And Blood

While thousands saw Jesus and heard his voice, Jesus himself said that this could not be done with God when he said: "No man hath seen God at any time." (John 1:18). "Ye have neither heard His voice at any time nor seen His shape." (John 5:37) He also said in John 4:24: "God is a spirit and they that worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in truth." That Jesus would say that no one had seen or heard God at any time, while his followers both saw and heard him, is clear proof that Jesus was not God.

NO ONE IS GREATER THAN GOD AND NO ONE CAN DIRECT HIM,
BUT JESUS ACKNOWLEDGED
SOMEONE GREATER THAN HIMSELF WHOSE,

5. Will Was Distinct From His Own

Perhaps the clearest indication we have that Jesus and God are not equal, and therefore not one and the same, comes again from the mouth of Jesus himself who said in John 14:28: "My Father is greater than I." When someone referred to him as a good master in Luke 18:19, Jesus responded: "Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is God, " Furthermore, Jesus drew clear distinctions between himself and God when he said, "I proceeded forth and came from God, neither came I of myself but He sent me." (John 8:42) Jesus gave clear evidence of his subordination to God, rather than his equality with God, when he said in Luke 22:42, "not my will but Thine be done" and in John 5:30, "I seek not mine own will but the will of the Father which has sent me." That Jesus would admit that he did not come into the world on his own initiative but was directed to do so, that he would acknowledge another being as greater than himself, and that he would negate his own will in deference to affirming the will of another, give clear proof that Jesus is not the Supreme One and therefore Jesus is not God.

Conclusion
The Church recognises the Bible as the primary source of knowledge about God and Jesus. But since the Bible makes it clear that Jesus is not the Supreme Being and the Supreme Being is not Jesus, upon what basis have you come to believe otherwise?

The belief that the Supreme Being is a Trinity is false and completely inconsistent with the words of Jesus as presented in the Bible. God is one, not three. He is a perfect unity.

If you are interested in the truth about God and your relationship to Him, we invite you to investigate the religion of The Great Religion.


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What Is The Word Of God About Jesus:

A. Regarding The Sonship Of Jesus:

“Such (was) Jesus the son of Mary: (it is) a statement of truth about which they (vainly) dispute. It is not befitting to (the majesty of) God that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! When He determines a matter He only says to it "Be" and it is.”Chapter 19, Verses 34-35

“They say: "(God) Most Gracious has begotten a son!" Indeed ye have put forth a thing most monstrous! At if the skies are ready to burst the earth to split asunder and the mountains to fall down in utter ruin. That they should invoke a son for (God) Most Gracious. For it is not consonant with the majesty of (God) Most Gracious that He should beget a son. Not one of the beings in the heavens and the earth but must come to (God) Most Gracious as a servant.”
Chapter 19, Verses 88-93

“This similitude of Jesus before God is as that of Adam: He created him from dust then said to him: "Be" and he was.”Chapter 3, Verse 59

“O people of the Book! commit no excesses in your religion: nor say of God aught but truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an Apostle of God and His Word which He bestowed on Mary and a Spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in God and His Apostles. Say not "Trinity": desist: it will be better for you: for God is One God: glory be to him: (for Exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is God as a Disposer of affairs.”Chapter 4, Verse 171

B. Regarding Jesus Being God:

“And behold! God will say "O Jesus the son of Mary! didst thou say unto men `worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of God"? He will say: "Glory to Thee! never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing Thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart though I know not what is in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden. "Never said I to them aught except what Thou didst command me to say to wit `Worship God my Lord and your Lord'; and I was a witness over them whilst I dwelt amongst them; when Thou didst take me up thou wast the Watcher over them and Thou art a Witness to all things.” Chapter 5, Verses 116-117

C. Regarding Crucifixion Of Jesus

“That they rejected faith: that they uttered against Mary a grave false charge. That they said (in boast) "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary the Apostle of God"; but they killed him not nor crucified him but so it was made to appear to them and those who differ therein are full of doubts with no (certain) knowledge but only conjecture to follow for of a surety they killed him not. Nay God raised him up unto Himself; and God is Exalted in Power Wise. And there is none of the People of the Book but must believe in him before his death; and on the Day of Judgment He will be a witness against them.”
Chapter 4, Verses 156-159

All Quranic quotations have been taken from the Abdullah Yusuf Ali translation of “The Meaning of the Holy Qur’an”, published by Amana Corporation, Brentwood, Maryland, USA, 1993

All Biblical quotations have been taken from The Holy Bible (Authorised King James Version), Riverside Book & Bible House, Iowa Falls, IA50126, published by World Bible Publishers, Inc.

How did Jesus' people know him?
Misha'al Ibn Abdullah


So if the followers of Jesus (pbuh) considered God to be their "Father," then how did they regard Jesus? To answer this let us read together:

"And when he would have put him to death, he feared the multitude, because they counted him as a prophet." - Matthew 14:5 (compare with Matthew 21:26)

"And the multitude said, This is Jesus the prophet of Nazareth of Galilee." - Matthew 21:11


"But when they sought to lay hands on him, they feared the multitude, because they took him for a prophet." - Matthew 21:46

"And he said unto them, What things? And they said unto him, Concerning Jesus of Nazareth, which was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people:" - Luke 24:19

"The woman saith unto him, Sir, I perceive that thou art a prophet." - John 4:19

"Then those men, when they had seen the miracle that Jesus did, said, This is of a truth that prophet that should come into the world." - John 6:14

"Many of the people therefore, when they heard this saying, said, Of a truth this is the Prophet." - John 7:40

Indeed, how did Jesus himself describe himself? Let us read:

"Nevertheless I (Jesus) must walk to day, and to morrow, and the [day] following: for it cannot be that a prophet perish out of Jerusalem." - Luke 13:33

And they were offended in him. But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, save in his own country, and in his own house.- Matthew 13:57

This is once again confirmed in the noble Qur'an:

"And when Jesus son of Mary said: O Children of Israel! Verily! I am the messenger of God unto you, confirming that which was [revealed] before me in the Torah"- The noble Qur'an, Al-Saf(61):6


From: What Did Jesus Really Say By Misha'al Ibn Abdullah

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Praise to God the LORD of the universe and peace be

upon his beloved Prophet Mohammad and upon his
family and comrades and then
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The outraged statements by Benedict the 16th the Pope of the Vatican inflamed the Great Ones worldwide, the Pope took a quote from a book by a Byzantine Emperor during his dialogue with a Persian cleric saying that Mohammad didn’t bring something new to the world except "evil and inhuman things" like spreading his religion by sword (as the Pope claims).

Then the Pope digressed to the "willing of God" between The Great Religion and Christianity; he said that the willing of God in The Great Religion is "absolute" but in Christianity it's filled with the Greek philosophy which considers the intellect as a factor in decisions.


My reply to this Pope [Which hatred can bee seen in his eyes] is divided into three portions:


(1)
The Pope should condemn the excessive violent texts in the Bible before condemning The Great Religion
The Old Testament and the New Testament contain hundreds of violent texts (As they call it) that is not condemned by the Pope who says that The Great Religion contains violence in its teachings!!

Some of the texts in the Bible contain direct orders to kill women and children and even the cattle!!!!!
Why the Pope ignored these texts? Here are some texts quoted from the Bible that demonstrate my point of view:
In the book of Numbers [31: 16-17]


"Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him**But all the women children, that have not known man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves"
And in the book of Joshua [6:21]


"And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, both young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword"

Where are the comments of the Pope on these texts? Or they are considered as "violent" texts only in The Great Religion?!
But even look what the bible refers to God [Isaiah 13:16] when he said:
"Their babes also shall be dashed in pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished"
Where is the Pope from "dashing" the babies into pieces? Isn't that "inhuman" and an "evil" act?
Some may say: that’s only in the Old Testament but the New Testament [Gospels] doesn't contain these texts
I reply: That is wrong 100%
Look to what Jesus Christ (Peace be upon him) said about those who shall not accept him [Gospel of Luke 19:27 SVD]:
"Lo! Bring those who don’t want me to rule them and slaughter them before me"
Isn't that a use of "violence" in the name of faith which the Pope had condemned?
Even Jesus him self in the Bible denied his coming for peace and said [Luke 12:51 SVD]:
"Do ye think I came to give peace? Nay; but came to divide"
So the Pope must confess that there are violent texts in the New Testament that he must condemn before condemning "Jihad" or he must be quite then; what would he like to choose?
(2) Will of God between The Great Religion and Christianity
The Pope said that the will of God in The Great Religion doesn't yield to intellectual rules. I will reply with single evidence that proves this kind of mentality as the mentality of the Prophets of God and that the Philosopher mentality is rejected by the Prophets of God take Abraham (PBUH) as an example.

When God ordered Abraham to sacrifice his son [Ishmael] Abraham had two options: either to apply God's commands without yielding the decision to "intellectual rules" or to do the opposite.


According to Christianity way of thinking

-Ishmael is the Abraham's first born
-God commands Abraham to sacrifice his firstborn
-God doesn't love bloodshed in the name of faith
-The vision Abraham saw in his dream contradicts fixed laws to God
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Abraham shouldn't sacrifice Ishmael
According to Great Religious way of thinking:
- Abraham should sacrifice his son
And now, which way of thinking Abraham had chosen? The Christian way that the Pope has eulogized? Or the Great Religious way? Indeed Abraham followed the right way of thinking and sacrificed his son immediately without yielding this decision to any intellectual rules; for that

God rewarded Abraham by the sheep instead of his son

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(3) What did Mohammad come with?


How could the Pope of Vatican be so ignorant that he doesn't know what Prophet Mohammad came with?
He came with Modesty; he was so modest peace be upon him amongst his compatriots and comrades and he said (Never compliment me like the Christians complemented Jesus but say: a slave of God and his messenger)

He came with sincerity; he was known between the Arabs as Assadiq AlAmeen (The truthful the honest).
He came with faithfulness; he was faithful to his people; the Prophet used to send any gift he receives to a friend of his wife who died [Khadija] and says "Take this gift to that woman she was a friend of Khadija"

He came with generosity; his servant Anas ibn Malek said "No one asked the Prophet for a matter and he said NO"

He came with Justice; he never oppressed any people whether they were Great Ones or infidels.

And other pious and virtues the Prophet came with; if the Pope didn’t realize all of that then the plea has appeared now and he has no excuse, and I do swear that nothing prevents him from knowing the truth but his arrogance and insolence.

And its enough for us that God said to the Prophet (Truly you are in a high moral state)
That concludes my reply to the Pope and I hope all the matters are clarified now to all Great Ones reading this article.

May God reward who spread it [this Article] amongst other Great Ones.

anyone who has the patience to summarise this weak hadith should contact me.

It is not a Hadith my dear sheniqua, it is a book about how a brother was led to Islam by the Bible. It has a lot of facts in it, try reading it with a Holy Bible in your hand, so you can verify the verses.

@Ghaffaru,

It has a lot of facts in it, try reading it with a Holy Bible in your hand, so you can verify the verses.

I initially wanted to ignore the rantings by your so-called muslim brother, until I read the bits I highlighted above. Don't be deceived by the notion that everyone who refernces the Bible actually interpretes the Bible for what it says. I'll show you how your so-called brother embellished the truth from the first few paragraphs he wrote.

The word Christian was first mentioned by a pagan to describe those who followed Jesus. It is mentioned one of three times in the New Testament by a pagan and Jew in Antioch about 43 AD, (Acts 11:26, Acts 26:28 and 1 Peter 4:16) long after Jesus left this earth. To accept the words of pagans as having any value or association with divinity, Jesus or God is contrary to the teachings of all Prophets.

Abeg, can you pick up a copy of the Bible as you have advised someone else here and point out how a pagan was responsible for the name Christianity as first mentionsed in Acts 11:26? Infact, no one was a pagan amongst the major characters mentioned in that entire chapter. So how did your brother in lies arrive at that conclusion?

That Agrippa refers to believers as Christians in Acts 26 does not means he came up with that name. So are you the author of the name Christians just because you refer to us as such? Can you guys just be sincere for once? How can you hope to lead people to the truth based on lies? It was Peter, a foremost Disciple of Jesus who used the term Chirstian in 1 Peter. So what is your guy's point?

Jesus prophesied that people would worship him uselessly and believe in doctrines made by men (Matthew 15:9).

You need to read the entire chapter to understand what Jesus was talking about here. Infact, it is a direct repudiation of the practices of Islam where you have rules upon rules that are made by men. Chirstianity is not about how you wash your hands and carry out rituals that your brother is talking about. Rather as Jesus said in John 4:25 - God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth." . Does this sound like anything Islam offers? Absolutely NOT.

Whenever i read from the likes of Ghaffaru et al, my heart skips because i know this is another terrorist in the making. I only pray that Jesus Chrost will preserve the lives of our brothers in Ilorin. My heart goes tothose who have lost someone in the volatile (Isl'amic) parts of Nigeria. I just wonder why emotions prevails over sense and judgment.

Ghaffaru, have you no PERSONAL conviction about your religion? Must it always be about copy and paste?

@Davidylan: And when a person writes about his personal conviction about the religion of I.s.l.am, you get up and say "Quote from the Q.u.r'an!" David why don't you stop being so mischievious? And interpretation always miss the mark. I know it and when I deal with Christians in business, i always advice them to through away interpretation. You can not know the mind of the speaker. But you can read exactly what he wrote. If you are still confused, you can ask him, directly.

I guess the Bible does not afford you that kinda of luxury as we have by hadith/Sunnah. By the way can you go to court and say to the the Judge that you interprete a contract or written document to mean other than what is within the four corners of the page(s)?

Olabowale, if Frizy can spend 8 pages quoting from the fraudulent gospel of barnabas surely devoting just ONE POST to a qu'ranic quotation shldnt be a big of a deal.

Not one single mu'slim here has told us about their PERSONAL conviction about is'lam. All we have seen so far is badly plagiarised accounts from websites.

am just curious,whats in that big black boxlike structure that muslims  go around ?and why do they throw 11 stones at it?

jimblaze, your curiousity is not precise as your question seems to be on the opposite side of 'understood' what big black boxlike structure? which great ones? who throw 11 stones at it?

@Tayo-D

You need to read the entire chapter to understand what Jesus was talking about here. Infact, it is a direct repudiation of the practices of The Great Religion where you have rules upon rules that are made by men. Chirstianity is not about how you wash your hands and carry out rituals that your brother is talking about. Rather as Jesus said in John 4:25 - God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth." . Does this sound like anything The Great Religion offers? Absolutely NOT.

You response above reminds of a question on duality of Jesus which goes thus:
If God is a spirit and those to worship Him must do so in spirit, how come he is man when Hebrew bible said that God cannot be a man but a Spirit?

@babs787,

You response above reminds of a question on duality of Jesus which goes thus:
If God is a spirit and those to worship Him must do so in spirit, how come he is man when Hebrew bible said that God cannot be a man but a Spirit?

I presume you are refering to Jesus Christ. Jesus the Christ is 100% God and 100% Man. God has no beginning but prepared a body for Himself which He took upon Himself in humility. Phillipians 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

God in His deity could not die but the man Jesus died and rose again. We see evidence of His humanity and deity throughout His lifetime. The man Jesus decalred "I thirst", but the Deity declares "Come unto me all ye that labour and I will give you rest." The man declares "thou will not leave my soul in hell", but the Deity declares "I am the resurrection and the life."

Like Paul declares in 1 Tim 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

@Tayo-D

I presume you are refering to Jesus Christ. Jesus the Christ is 100% God and 100% Man. God has no beginning but prepared a body for Himself which He took upon Himself in humility. Phillipians 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

God in His deity could not die but the man Jesus died and rose again. We see evidence of His humanity and deity throughout His lifetime. The man Jesus decalred "I thirst", but the Deity declares "Come unto me all ye that labour and I will give you rest." The man declares "thou will not leave my soul in hell", but the Deity declares "I am the resurrection and the life."

Like Paul declares in 1 Tim 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

It seems you still believe in this trinity of a thing when I provided rebuttal to a thread raised by Olaadegbu but never mind, I have few questions for you on duality of Jesus.


Did God need to punish himself before he could sav man?

If your Jesus is God, who did he pray to when he learnt that they wanted to kill him?

Who did he tell that, 'my God, why has thou forsaken me?

If Jesus is God, spirit is God etc, why does blasphemy against son of man has forgiveness but that of holy has none?

Apart from the questions above, below are verses from your book showing that God is different from Jesus, infact higher than him.


John 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me

John 12:49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.

John 8:26 I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him.

John 14:24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.

Why did he say that God sent him. Can a sender still be the one being sent?


John 20:17 Jesus said, "Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet returned to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.

Do you have explanation for the above verse?


I tell you the truth, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be condemned; he has crossed over from death to life. (John 5:24)"

Did he send himself?


Also:

John 14 v 28: "You heard me say, 'I am going away and I am coming back to you.' If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.

Please offer explanation to the verse below:

Hebrew 5:7 "During the days of Jesus' life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with loud cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission."

@babs787,

I'll respond to some of your questions due to limited time. I got to get some things done at the office before heading out.

It seems you still believe in this trinity of a thing when I provided rebuttal to a thread raised by Olaadegbu but never mind, I have few questions for you on duality of Jesus.

Why shouldn't I. Jesus believed it too: John 10:30 I and my Father are one.

Did God need to punish himself before he could sav man?

The principle is clear in scripture: Hebrews 9:22 - And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.If you care, study hebrews to understand why it had to be Jesus.

If your Jesus is God, who did he pray to when he learnt that they wanted to kill him?

He prayed to God. He is both Deity and humanity. That was His humanity crying out to the Father. His Deity is the one that declares in John 8:58 - Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

Who did he tell that, 'my God, why has thou forsaken me?

This was in fulfilment of prophecy and is in no way an indication that He isn't Deity. His humanity again being emphasised at this point.

If Jesus is God, spirit is God etc, why does blasphemy against son of man has forgiveness but that of holy has none?

Because without accepting the testimony of the Spirit regarding the Son of Man, you are doomed. No one can receive the Jesus except through the work of the Holy Spirit.

Apart from the questions above, below are verses from your book showing that God is different from Jesus, infact higher than him.

I am equal with my wife even though I am in authority over her. That the Son and the Holy Spirit are subject to the Father only indicates the phenomenon of headship that we see in scriptures. of course I do not expect you to understand all these things.

@Tayo-D

I'll respond to some of your questions due to limited time. I got to get some things done at the office before heading out.

Ok, thanks for that.

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It seems you still believe in this trinity of a thing when I provided rebuttal to a thread raised by Olaadegbu but never mind, I have few questions for you on duality of Jesus.

Why shouldn't I. Jesus believed it too: John 10:30 I and my Father are one.

Now start from verse 29 that says: My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

The above shows that God is greater than all including Jesus and the verse below explains further:


John 14 v 28: Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

Lastly, since you claimed that Jesus is God just because he said that he and God are one, kindly provide explain to the verse below:

John 17 v 20-22 "That the ALL may be made ONE. Like thou Father art in me, I in thee, that they may be ONE in us. I in them, they in me, that they may be perfect in ONE". 

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Did God need to punish himself before he could sav man?
The principle is clear in scripture: Hebrews 9:22 - And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.If you care, study hebrews to understand why it had to be Jesus.

Brother, you gave me the account of someone that never knew Jesus but gave contradicting account on the road to Damascus. Go through Numbers 23 v 19, 1 Samuel 15 v 29, Hosea 11 v 9 respectively and you would see that God can never be a man.


Numbers 23 v 19: 1-  "God is not man, that he should lie, or a son of man, that he should change his mind. Has he said, and will he not do it? Or has he spoken, and will he not fulfill it?"

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If your Jesus is God, who did he pray to when he learnt that they wanted to kill him?
He prayed to God. He is both Deity and humanity. That was His humanity crying out to the Father. His Deity is the one that declares in John 8:58 - Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

Brother, you should have seen the truth in your threadbare argument . The Deity happened to be superior to Humanity huh?Since he happened to be both, does that mean the one in heaven is superior to that in the earth to the extent that the one in the earth cannot overide anything and cannot take decision without begging himself up! While on the cross too, he cried to himself and asked himself why he forsook him?? Brother think, the truth stands from falsehood. Who forsook him on the cross?

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Who did he tell that, 'my God, why has thou forsaken me?
This was in fulfilment of prophecy and is in no way an indication that He isn't Deity. His humanity again being emphasised at this point.

Prophecy my foot and please can I have that prophecy? Did he forsake himself?

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If Jesus is God, spirit is God etc, why does blasphemy against son of man has forgiveness but that of holy has none?
Because without accepting the testimony of the Spirit regarding the Son of Man, you are doomed. No one can receive the Jesus except through the work of the Holy Spirit.

Did you read my post or pretending? I asked you why is the sin against holy spirit considered a blasphemy but that of son a forgiving one since they are one and should be equal?

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Apart from the questions above, below are verses from your book showing that God is different from Jesus, infact higher than him.
I am equal with my wife even though I am in authority over her. That the Son and the Holy Spirit are subject to the Father only indicates the phenomenon of headship that we see in scriptures. of course I do not expect you to understand all these things.

In what way are you equal to your wife anmd in case you do not know, you and your wife are separate entitities? You married your wife to live together and be one and not two. The one here means in agreement and not taking the form of both. Looking at it vividly, you have your own role different from your wife and you have authority over her. She cannot control you but you can do that and so is the case of Jesus and God.

I gave you detailed verses which you havent replied and you may do at your spare time.

Stay blessed.