Gadafii:
if hitler had successfully taken the societ union, the war would have been very difficult for the allied armies to win, because Russia had and still have abundant of all the resources needed to carry on the war for years, hitler gambled and fumbled, and his finest fighting united were destroyed in the eastern front, millions of his soldiers were killed, millions others captured... The weather condition was not favourable to hitler, during the snows, the Germans couldn't fight effectively, this gave starlin upper hand to push back hitler, when the snow thawed, war machines were bogged down, another advantage for starlin

According to was historians, Germany's defeat started The very moment they stepped into ussr

Chai you are on point, I dey owe you two cold bottle of Heineken with one head of cat fish pepper soup make you take wet your belle.

mysticwarrior:
Chai you are on point, I dey owe you two cold bottle of Heineken with one head of cat fish pepper soup make you take wet your belle.

oya wire my aza

mysticwarrior:
You knowledge in military history and world war 2 is quite commendable, I'm impress on how abreast you are in terms of military history especially WW2.

It should be noted that the finest German generals, best armies, best soldiers and best weapons were used in the campaign against the USSR. The tide of the war switched against the Germans after the defeat of the German 6th army and it's subsequent surrender at the battle of Stalingrad in 1943.

My brother sometimes I wonder at my love for war history which started as far back as when I was in secondary school.


I read a lot of Nigeria-Biafra war books, World war II books, Korean war, and history of most African dictators too. I get excited reading anything about war, politics and scientific inventions. Maybe in my previous life I was a warrior


Part of what made Germans lost to Soviets was miscalculation of weather conditions and failure of German military vehicles and weapons as a result of extreme weather. That also played a role in Russia's failure in some Ukrainian territory during Russia's invasion of Ukraine.


The battle of Stalingrad was damn bloody, I have watched several documentaries on it and even movies, it was crazy, forget we are lucky to be born in this era that the world is enjoying relative peace. Back then, the world was cruel, brutal wars all over the world, and most disregarded rules of engagement

advanceDNA:


U guys shaaa know how to victimize the aggressor......It's funny, biase and pathetic at the same time

Everyone will lose in war......let the aggressor consider this before poking someone who may have bigger fire power.....

Its fvnny how u are trying to make deaths look different from the both sides.......as if the people that died when the Japs attacked Pearl harbor don't have families....Are they not humans??

Mayb U thought Japan bombed pearl harbour and Us dropped a bomb the next day??

In case u ddnt know, after the Japs attacked the US in Dec 1941.....

After hundreds of thousands of recorded deaths on the US...

.after repeated plea for japan to end the war...

after soviet union decided to declare war against Japan, so they will stop,.

it took another 3.5 years in 1945 before the United States used the atomic bomb..

..Japan's emperor was even warned of the coming attack that US will use a greater weapon that will forcefully end the war...but he thought it was a bluff

But u shaa want to make the US the bad guy..

Your history about WW2 is wrong.
. read up

Gadafii:
if hitler had successfully taken the societ union, the war would have been very difficult for the allied armies to win, because Russia had and still have abundant of all the resources needed to carry on the war for years, hitler gambled and fumbled, and his finest fighting united were destroyed in the eastern front, millions of his soldiers were killed, millions others captured... The weather condition was not favourable to hitler, during the snows, the Germans couldn't fight effectively, this gave starlin upper hand to push back hitler, when the snow thawed, war machines were bogged down, another advantage for starlin

According to war historians, Germany's defeat started The very moment they stepped into ussr

Very correct.


Hitler's defeat was majorly as a result of miscalculations and natural consequences.


First was his unprepared invasion of Soviet union based on poor judgment, and second was Hitler's ally, Japan's invasion of US via Pearl harbor which dragged US fully into the war. These two miscalculations cost Hitler the war.


But still, I respect Hitler and Germans till date, those guys did unimaginable things

mysticwarrior:
Kamikaze was not prohibited in the covention of warfare, nuclear bomb, biological weapon and chemical weapons are not coventional weapons of warfare

The Japanese are more humane than the US and that is why they swore never to use that kind of weapon against humanity, Japan with all their advanced technology has never for once attempt to fabricate such weapons.

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Pele ... it's like calling ur talk village talk dey vex u.....u seff read what u wrote....warrior, soldier, US knows it cannot do this, Us cannot do that, bomb is a lazy man fight....what's does that even mean??

Lol....This one think having an upper hand tech is about being humane.... U are comedian..

. Go and read about the atrocities of Japan during the war.... Lol.. humane indeed

Masterviolence:

Your history about WW2 is wrong.
. read up

Yawn.....

Abeg Jump another person's mentions to be condescending

advanceDNA:


Yawn.....

Abeg Jump another person's mentions to be condescending abeg

Read up and stop disgracing yourself.

Better still meet the Gadafii guy above to teach you.

mysticwarrior:
Kamikaze was not prohibited in the covention of warfare, nuclear bomb, biological weapon and chemical weapons are not coventional weapons of warfare

The Japanese are more humane than the US and that is why they swore never to use that kind of weapon against humanity, Japan with all their advanced technology has never for once attempt to fabricate such weapons.

You need to do something about this your inherited village palm wine talk, because it's heavily manifesting in you AdvanceDNA.

After the experience of the nuclear bomb attacked by the US on Japan, i expected the attitude of the Japanese towards the US to be like that of North Korea towards US but the reverse is the case...for this, I'm extremely disappointed with them.

You can't nuke me as a country and expect that at the end of the day I will be Pro US. i love me some Kim Jong Un attitude period.

Masterviolence:

Read up and stop disgracing yourself.
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Yawn..!! E pain am.....u have not made any point as ur last comment .... Look for someone else to be condescending on

franchasofficia:
Very correct.


Hitler's defeat was majorly as a result of miscalculations and natural consequences.


First was his unprepared invasion of Soviet union based on poor judgment, and second was Hitler's ally, Japan's invasion of US via Pearl harbor which dragged US fully into the war. These two miscalculations cost Hitler the war.


But still, I respect Hitler and Germans till date, those guys did unimaginable things

hitler was fully prepared for the Soviet invasion, in fact it was reported that he was fe kilometres away from Moscow, but over confidence and wrong maneuvering costed him the decisive success.

He had the best war planes, tanks, and mechanized army compared to the united state from the begining of the war, but he constantly interfere with the decisions of his generals, when they insisted the army must pressed ahead and march into Moscow, hitler would rather they divert elsewhere, that was their undoing

Germany was technologically ahead of US as then, the V2 rocket that did massive damage to London was built by Hitler's scientists, that V2 rocket was the template for present day space ship,rockets, jets etc..copied by Americans and the Soviet Union

advanceDNA:


Cheated?? was there some kinda rule on how to kill each other??
...... Nothing like intimidation....the US ddnt even have weaponizable atomic bomb as at 1941 when the Japs went to look for trouble....

It's the Japanese who thought they had the upper hand and was intimidating ..
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The soviet union even had declared war on the Japanese to make them stop yet they ddnt, bombing others for years

.. U are now calling it intimidation after the US used a bigger bomb, nearly 4 years later after pearl harbour attack and further countless deaths..... Welldone!!

that little child's blood is on Oppenheimer's hand...

Gadafii:
hitler was fully prepared for the Soviet invasion, in fact it was reported that he was fe kilometres away from Moscow, but over confidence and wrong maneuvering costed him the decisive success.

He had the best war planes, tanks, and mechanized army compared to the united state from the begining of the war, but he constantly interfere with the decisions of his generals, when they insisted the army must pressed ahead and march into Moscow, hitler would rather they divert elsewhere, that was their undoing

Germany was technologically ahead of US as then, the V2 rocket that did massive damage to London was built by Hitler's scientists, that V2 rocket was the template for present day space ship,rockets, jets etc..copied by Americans and the Soviet Union

Yes, most technologies being used today were invented during world war II.

That's why I am always angry with Nigerian government.


They ought to have preserved and expanded on Biafra war inventions and by now Nigeria would have had some of its own local technology to boast of in the comity of nations

mysticwarrior:
Without the use of the atomic bomb and nuke the US military is just an ordinary military, they sweat they bleed they suffer casualties and they die.

The US knew quite alright that they would have been unsuccessful in bringing the Japanese mainland under total subjugation through military campaign if they had used conventional methods, because the US had soldiers and the Japanese had warriors.

You must understand the point I was trying to make, the Japanese never launched a direct attack against civilian targets in their quest for aggression as an open declaration of war when they bombed Pearl harbor. For this reason it is expected that the US should have, and ought to have focused their attention on Japanese military formations alone. The use of the atomic bomb on civilians by the US is a lazy man's fight.

the u.s couldn't afford to lose able bodied men and family men who should be doing something else than fighting wars ... So they had to opt for a faster way of ending the war with less casualty on their side .. The Japanese on the other side are suicidal in nature already, atleast judging from their shogun era ... Death means nothing to them due to their pride So sending men to battle is like a thing of dignity even dying during it is dignifiable.. So why send men to a prolonged battle with meaningless death when you can wipe half the population of your enemies whilst conserving the life of your citizens..

mysticwarrior:
If my talk na beer parlor talk then your talk na village palm wine joint talk, sam loco talk. Why did the US used the atomic bomb instead of marching their army on the Japanese mainland?

why would I waste the life of my citizen when I could do more damage using a bomb without casualties on my side

advanceDNA:

because war is about killing and destruction.......everybody will lose

Listen to urself man...... u are asking why ur opponent used a bigger bomb than yours

U are asking why ur enemy decided to kill u their own way after u came to kill them first....

I mean, whats ur point ...?? Was there any rule in the 1940s that bombs should not be used.??


The Japanese used bombs, they even used kamikaze.....so why exactly are u angry the US used a bigger bomb.....

U think if the japs had the atomic bomb they wont use it?.....guy.....u see why your talk is just beer parlor talk

.. the guy talk is just baseless. ...

Silentgroper:
that little child's blood is on Oppenheimer's hand...

Lol.....really?? If they had not attack the US first
I don't think the US would have dropped two atomic bombs on their arsé....

Besides...The emperor at the time was warned that the United States wants to engage a weapon never known to warfare.....

But u wanna blame the designer of the bomb
Did u blame Kalashnikov for all the death that came thru AK47....??

advanceDNA:



Lol.....really?? If they had not attack the US first
I don't think the US would have dropped two atomic bombs on their arsé....

Besides...The emperor at the time was warned that the United States wants to engage a weapon never known to warfare.....

But u wanna blame the designer of the bomb
Did u blame Kalashnikov for all the death that came thru AK47....??

I'm just cruising my bro ..

Silentgroper:




I'm just cruising my bro ..

Haba.....I know naaa

Silentgroper:
why would I waste the life of my citizen when I could do more damage using a bomb without casualties on my side

Why not ablide by the rules of engagement in terms of weaponry.

advanceDNA:



Lol.....really?? If they had not attack the US first
I don't think the US would have dropped two atomic bombs on their arsé....

Besides...The emperor at the time was warned that the United States wants to engage a weapon never known to warfare.....

But u wanna blame the designer of the bomb
Did u blame Kalashnikov for all the death that came thru AK47....??

Mikhail Kalashnikov's ak 47 was a conventional weapon, it's surprising that you still can't tell the difference.

Silentgroper:
the u.s couldn't afford to lose able bodied men and family men who should be doing something else than fighting wars ... So they had to opt for a faster way of ending the war with less casualty on their side .. The Japanese on the other side are suicidal in nature already, atleast judging from their shogun era ... Death means nothing to them due to their pride So sending men to battle is like a thing of dignity even dying during it is dignifiable.. So why send men to a prolonged battle with meaningless death when you can wipe half the population of your enemies whilst conserving the life of your citizens..

This is what made the Japanese formidable warriors, the Japanese abiding by the samurai Bushido code embraces death when they see it and that is why they are dangerous to any opposition.

Japanese fighters prefer to die by suicide than being captured alive as defeated warriors, during WW2 Japanese mothers gave their sons who were going for active combat knives to take their own lives than fall into enemies hands alive.

But I fear Japanese women more, they may appear weak and sluggish but the have very strong inner will, don't be fooled by the way they bow and speak softly.

franchasofficia:
Very correct.


Hitler's defeat was majorly as a result of miscalculations and natural consequences.


First was his unprepared invasion of Soviet union based on poor judgment, and second was Hitler's ally, Japan's invasion of US via Pearl harbor which dragged US fully into the war. These two miscalculations cost Hitler the war.


But still, I respect Hitler and Germans till date, those guys did unimaginable things

Before being a nation the germans as a people have been a source of worry to the allies. France was a strong opposition to the germans, because it feared what a united germans could do to france. If nt the US Germany might have wiped england off the face of the earth.

advanceDNA:


Pele ... it's like calling ur talk village talk dey vex u.....u seff read what u wrote....warrior, soldier, US knows it cannot do this, Us cannot do that, bomb is a lazy man fight....what's does that even mean??

Lol....This one think having an upper hand tech is about being humane.... U are comedian..

. Go and read about the atrocities of Japan during the war.... Lol.. humane indeed

Being a man of war history myself I have read about the Japanese attrocities of ww2 in nankin China, Philippines, Indonesia and Singapore, most of those who committed those attrocities were trialed and executed after Japan surrendered.

It should be noted that chances of the US to solely, successfully invade another nation and bring it to a total subjugation without nukes and any allies is very slim.

Look what happened to them in Vietnam, the Korean war, Somali and Afghanistan where they fled from that country without their weapons.

3exe3:
Before being a nation the germans as a people have been a source of worry to the allies. France was a strong opposition to the germans, because it feared what a united germans could do to france. If nt the US Germany might have wiped england off the face of the earth.

The German surrender of WW1 was finalized in France and the Germans hated the French for that, that was why during WW2 the Germans showed no mercy as they used their blitzkrieg to fry the French army. And you are right the US saved the British cowards from behind grinded by the German machines.

mysticwarrior:
The German surrender of WW1 was finalized in France and the Germans hated the French for that, that was why during WW2 the Germans showed no mercy as they used their blitzkrieg to fry the French army. And you are right the US saved the British cowards from behind grinded by the German machines.

Before the two world was, france has done whatever it could to divide the germans.

thesicilian:
Americans cheated to win the war, by bringing nuclear bombs to a gun fight. Back then the Americans could intimidate everyone with their atomic bomb and they won the war strictly because of that.
But today almost every powerful nation has at least 2 or 3 nuclear bombs so no one can intimidate the other anymore

oga that bomb has been produced and kept for long without testrun,so the had the opportunity and did it,since ever den,japan build strong relationships with american,even though japan has been advance technological long back ago but the were shocked and hv to giv american that accolade, the fact is don't even giv an average American chance or opportunity to unveil his true self,those guys are too secretive,I don't know if wat de learn from Jews,when I look some countries testing American might I just laugh shaaa those guys are 50 years ahead of the whole world ,you can imagine only one state is created for research and other science stuff,this people are not in the world to play with you...only that world war3 should make one not to trust America,those guys have something cooking and needed excuse to test it,even all this weapon been released to Ukraine nd isreal are outdated weapons been stockpile for years so the want to get rid of it because there are current ones on stockpiles

mysticwarrior:
The German surrender of WW1 was finalized in France and the Germans hated the French for that, that was why during WW2 the Germans showed no mercy as they used their blitzkrieg to fry the French army. And you are right the US saved the British cowards from behind grinded by the German machines.

Their strong hatred for the allies was due to the peace deal after ww1 which crumble the german economy.

mysticwarrior:
Being a man of war history myself I have read about the Japanese attrocities of ww2 in nankin China, Philippines, Indonesia and Singapore, most of those who committed those attrocities were trialed and executed after Japan surrendered.

It should be noted that chances of the US to solely, successfully invade another nation and bring it to a total subjugation without nukes and any allies is very slim.

Look what happened to them in Vietnam, the Korean war, Somali and Afghanistan where they fled from that country without their weapons.

...combat with soldiers and small missiles generally takes long.....as long as there is money and human beings to be drafted, weapons will be sold and war will continue until one side is tired of the deaths, running out of weapons, food, other resources, etc .....so u trying to claim US is this..US is that...is a baseless fallacy....

.. Is Russia not superior to Ukraine....and yet the war has been going on for many months


war is about killing and destruction.. its not supposed to be fair killing your fellow human being in the first place....so u saying the US is not fair, unconventional or fought a lazy mans fight, because they've got bigger fire power is totally absurd..

mysticwarrior:
Mikhail Kalashnikov's ak 47 was a conventional weapon, it's surprising that you still can't tell the difference.

Context is ur problem when u read....u can't seem to identify context in a comment....

I don see this picture tire. I have nothing to comment.

thesicilian:
Americans cheated to win the war, by bringing nuclear bombs to a gun fight. Back then the Americans could intimidate everyone with their atomic bomb and they won the war strictly because of that.
But today almost every powerful nation has at least 2 or 3 nuclear bombs so no one can intimidate the other anymore

honestly you must be a Muslim to reason like a fool... the same thing going on in Gaza today... that's you believe to kill and never be killed? Wake up na only 9ja e dey real for some people that believes in killing because of their religion to dey kill without being killed.