Ken4Christ:


God never accused David of having many wives. He only accused him of taking the only wife that belongs to Uriah.

Veecruz:


I have already done that throughout this thread and Jesus already Said Keep.The Commandments.

Expanse2020:

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Veecruz:


They Pare already posted in the thread!

Veecruz:


And I have been asking everyone who says this but they can't answer

"from where would the king come from? Is it from the sky or amongst the people of Israel?

And people agree that for a better understanding we must start from verse 14, "When you come to the land that the LORD your God is giving you, and you possess it.." who is the "you" there? Is it a King or the people?

And in line with this Law did God ever choose a king having wives?



If you say God gave him the wives and women of the whole country, then does he not have a right to marry any and all the women in the whole country regardless of whether they are married or not or he is married or not?

If he had that right, then would he need to murder a husband to take his wife?

Do you plot a murder when you have a right?

If he had a right as you say, then why would God charge him for exercising his rights after all as you say, God had given him every woman and wife in the kingdom?

Jokerman:
Only a non Christian will support Polygamy after Jesus Christ settled the matter in Matt 19:4

Westerhoffe:
And show me where JESUS CHRIST condemned polygamy in the Bible, or where He said, "Ye shall not marry two wives for it is a sin unto the LORD thy GOD."

Veecruz:
See, looking for another way to argue since all your first attempt failed.

.

Did you not hear Him clearly Say that marriage is "male and female, created He them?

And not not male and females or males and female or males and males or females and females?

Veecruz:


Have you not already committed the sin like a person caught eating meat? Is it reasonable to order that the eaten meat be returned to the pot?

You have already committed the sin and right in the middle of it, so no need.

Westerhoffe:



Stale and unreasonable.
If it is a sin, GOD would have included it in His commandments to them.

Westerhoffe:



So, if marriage is not between a male and a female, can you tell me a third gender?

GOD never for once spoke against polygamy.
Read the Bible and stop arguing blindly.

Veecruz:


As long as Christ did not say a marriage is between male and females or males and female or males and males or females and females, you are the evil, son of Satan come to work your father's work.



God has Spoken against all the faces of sins and no body can do polygamy without committing the sin of Adultery and whorredom/harlotry! It is absolutely impossible.

Only a whorre/harlot/prostitute will marry a married man and only an adulterer will seek to marry another person.

Westerhoffe:



Shut up my friend!
What is adultery?
You first explain that.

What is adultery?
Can't you even see how dumb you keep sounding?

Adultery
uk /əˈdʌl.tər.i/ us /əˈdʌl.tɚ.i/
noun
plural adulteries
Synonyms of adultery
: voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and someone other than that person's current spouse or partner.

Now that the person is his wife or her husband, how does that relate to adultery?
This is you guys spread false doctrines all over the world, spitting self-made doctrines and binding the free with them.

Veecruz:
Yet another blow to devils which say God permitted polygamy.

Ezra 10:3
Now therefore let us make a covenant with our God to put away all the wives, and such as are born of them, according to the counsel of my lord, and of those that tremble at the commandment of our God; and let it be done according to the law

See just like Abraham did when he saw he was in error. Which also explains why God Said Haggai should get out.

gohf:
God said, be careful and read your bible well. Well not like you will take such advise.


God told him to listen to his wife, so that the action may be prophetic, as to castaway the law and keep the promise. The one who said Abraham to send Hagar away was Sarah, she was also the one who "married" her for him. Hagar was her maid and not even Abraham's wife more like a concubine.

Hopefully this explanation does not blow over your head.

gohf:
if you are the so called child of God and he is the devil, and he hasn't insulted you. Does that mean this devil is better than you so called child of God?

Veecruz:


It is not a condition especially as the people were already a people living in sin and accustomed sin as a way of living. And this is the first time that it can be Said that God Told them, as all the messengers of God reminded them

Then, secondly, do you not see that it is only corrupt adulterers and fornicators (sinners) who zoom in on "master's wives" whereas God Said other things which clearly show that God meant conquership and promotion to the top, just like Joseph?

[b]As i asked all of them who say this, then why would God charge him for "taking the same wives of one of the wives you people say God gave him?[/b]

And no one has been to answer that.

You people fear God oh,. You are no different from Judas iscariot when you blaspheme God

Veecruz:


You yourself must see that you are talking senselessly in a bid to defend that which is sin, even to point of perverting the Truth.

What prophecy is on casting away hagar and son to cast away the law and keep the promise? (Hope you are not mad enough to say that Hagar's son is the law?)

Thank God you confess the Truth that hagar was not even Abraham's wife, and if you further dive into the Truth, you will also confess that she was not even his concubine.

She was just a woman he angrily bleeped to teach both women a very painful lesson about Life

So, your response was off point as you rightly predicted, for no one any where in the world, no matter how intelligent they are, can ever justify siin.

Not even if all the S.A.Ns in the world come togetger to defend polygamy, they still will will fail, fkr it is Written "i will never justify the wicked"

And polygamy is the doing of wickedness to the first wife like the face of this woman clearly shows.
https://www.nairaland.com/8039963/nigerian-woman-welcomes-husbands-second#129075962

benji93:
On the bolded, i am not sure i understand. I am assuming you are referring to Uriah's wife, Beersheba. You cannot put Uriah's wife and his master's (Saul) wife in the same category. Saul was dead at the time, but Uriah wasn't. In short, he sent Uriah to his death and took his wife. As someone said, one was adultery, you cannot say the same for the other if the man is dead.

If that's not what you are referring to please clarify.

And please stop using statements such as "You are Judas Iscariot". Are you trying to intimidate us? Make your points and support them, and stop blackmailing people to agree with it.

Please don't tell us what God meant. God means what he says. God said other things but he said that too. If God did not mean actual wives there would be no need to bring it up, and nothing in that suggests it was proverbial. Nathan was communicating a statement of fact from the Lord. The preceding statement of the story of the rich vs poor man was proverbial, and he explained it afterward.

benji93:
Technically Hagar was Avraham's wife. She was just not of the same status as Sarai. You can see that in Genesis 16 vs 3. Maybe you indeed should try to study your bible well, and contextualize using the languages we suppose they were originally written...

Veecruz:


That is not True and for you to say that "she was just not of the same status as Sarai" is proof you know its not True.

Eg is it in doubt that Ned Nwoko married Regina Daniels? No

Or that late Atagha went playing with Chidinma and laid with her? No.

Do you not see that Abraham did not go into Hagar if not that he was compelled (force, duress, undu.pressure) by Sarai?

If you knew some Law eg "it is not my fault, what i did against ny will"/ Consent makes The Law - consensus facit legem

Try learning some Law on how a person is guilty and convicted for his unlawful act.

And that is why i call those supporting polygamy devils, because, Satan knows the great importance of your will (consent) and is always, always trying to get you to commit a sin, with your will and consent. And people carry on carelessly and mindlessly.

And Lawyers, the keepers and finders of Law, especially the bible reading and church going ones are not teaching people about these things, which is why almost all of them are going to go to hellfire. Yes, i said it! And that is on top all the evils they do, just like the levites and priests.

So, take out time to read on how a person is convicted for sin "criminal liability/responsibity"

Veecruz:


Is that not what i said? Thank God you have confessed that this was one of the charges levelled against David.

If God gave him wives then why would God accuse him of taking a wife, (one wife) out of the same many wives you say God gave him wives?

If you are told, as you say, that you have been given the cars in Elizade Motors, and Lanre.Shitu motors and all the cars in the Ikeja terriitory how then anyone accuse you of taking just one car?'

Ken4Christ:


You need to visit a psychiatrist. You are of your father the devil. You are lying to your teeth as though you don't understand my point just because you want to defend your position at all cost. I am done with you.

benji93:
Hello, quote the Bible, please. Genesis 16 vs 3. NKJV, NLT, NIV e.t.c. It's clearly written in at least the listed versions as wife, and we can go into the Hebrew bible if you want. We are discussing a biblical story here, so quote verses. You can always use names or instances we are familiar with but quote the bible first, then explain. In all of this exchange, you haven't quoted the verse itself.

And you need to stop jumping about the point. The argument was that Hagar became his wife, not about whether he was forced to. Very simple.

Ken4Christ:


You need to visit a psychiatrist. You are of your father the devil. You are lying to your teeth as though you don't understand my point just because you want to defend your position at all cost. I am done with you.

MiddleDimension:


I am very happy that all those who only want to know the truth, can now see that people have to dance around the scripture, manipulate and misinterpret facts, in order to be able to make a case, a case that is false by the way, that polygamy is not of god. In order words, to put forward a case that polygamy is not of god, they have to become immoral and do all degerate things like telling blatant lies, etc. That tells you so much about the position they are trying to defend.

But for those of us who affirm the truth that polygamy is of God, we do not dance around the facts, neither do we misinterpret scripture to back up that claim.

bobestman:
You are just beating about the bush. As being celibate is a choice so is polygamy. Adultery is sleeping with a married woman and an example is what David did with someone's wife. ..

Sapasenator:
How come, David a polygamous man, was a man after God's hearth?

How come, Jesus came from the lineage of a polygamous David.

What you do is more powerful than what you say.

How come Jacob was polygamous and the 12 tribes of Israel came from a polygamous family.

Remember, I am God, I change not!

gohf:
actually can I give you a revelation for free sir

The Hebrews define adultery as this

When a married woman sleeps with a man who isn't her husband. So any man who sleeps with a married woman has commited adultery and the married woman who does that is an adulterer

Expanse2020:

God didn't like polygamy but he he sharing the inheritance in the family 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Don't mind that guy he didn't know anything in the bible rather they twisted bible to Thier tsste

Westerhoffe:

And when the man is her husband, is it still adultery?