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Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by Toks2008(m): 5:40pm On Apr 28 |
Veecruz: We have the standard definition of adultery and the biblical definition. According to the standard dictionary definition, adultery specifically applies to full sexual intercourse between a man and woman when at least one of them is married to someone else. But biblically, adultery is said to have really taken place if a married woman is involved in sxual relationship with a man she is not married to or if a married man sleeps with another man's wife. But when a married man sleeps with a single lady, that is not adultery but fornication but it is also a sin as terrible as adultery. |
Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by selleniza: 5:52pm On Apr 28 |
StillDtruth: Did the God acknowledge Rachel as the wife of Jacob? This means as far as God is concerned, it is possible for a man to marry a second woman after marrying the first (by carrying out the marriage rituals). Bible teaching regarding marriage is simple. It is best to be single (na Paul talk am), if you cannot stay single, it is better to get married to a woman. And if you cannot stay faithful to a single woman, get married to more women which is good. Sex with a woman you are not married to (which is called fornication if you are single and adultery if you are married) is a sin that will land you in hell. |
Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by Veecruz: 5:58pm On Apr 28 |
Toks2008: Please, where did you see this one o.? Because i know God is a just God and not partial and what happens to Ananias happened to Sapphira |
Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by Veecruz: 6:07pm On Apr 28 |
selleniza: And this was a time before God Spelt out His Laws. But this is offf point. selleniza: Bible adding! selleniza: I told them this and they are angry to the extent of banning me. |
Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by selleniza: 6:16pm On Apr 28 |
Veecruz: God did not spell it out in any part of His law that a man should not marry second woman. |
Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by Veecruz: 6:29pm On Apr 28 |
selleniza: Did God not Say "thou shalt not commit adultery/Do no unrighteosness ".and other Commands So how can a married man marry a second wife, when adultery and other law breaking is looking at him? |
Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by selleniza: 6:44pm On Apr 28 |
Veecruz: Who told you marrying a woman is doing unrighteousness? Who told you marrying a second wife is commiting adultery? Who told you sleeping with your second wife is commiting adultery? The only thing that is unrighteous is sleeping with a woman when you have not married her. |
Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by Veecruz: 6:57pm On Apr 28 |
selleniza: The bible Says It is adultery and bigamy when a married man is marrying a woman bigamy. noun. big·a·my ˈbi-gə-mē : the crime of marrying someone while already married to someone else. selleniza: The bible Says just looking lustfully at a woman who is not your wife is adultery, not talk of him going above and beyond the stage of lust to go and marry the person he lusted for that made him guilty of adultery. So how can a married man marry a second wife, when adultery and other law breaking is looking at him? |
Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by selleniza: 7:16pm On Apr 28 |
Veecruz: Bigamy is a term invented by oyibo people to enforce monogamy, it is not a biblical term. Jesus was talking about lustful desires to sleep with a woman without marrying her first. The desire that a married man should have about another woman he likes is not to have sex with her but to make her his wife. |
Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by Veecruz: 7:58pm On Apr 28 |
selleniza: You imagine to deceive God? Are you not afraid? You real eyes God can see all your secrets and minds and desires and that you cannot deceive Him, right? Even i and your wife can see your lusts, is it now God you think you escape? Dont be deceieved, God cannot be deceived and Ananias and Saphirra has shown you that it is very very fatal to imagine that you can deceive God! So technically, you agree that there is adultery in a married man marrying a second woman unless he can prove to God that he did not want to Bleep her and that he just wanted to marry her, like God does not already know that it was because you wanted to have sex with her in the first place (lust/adultery) that you want to marry her while deceitfully planning to evade and dodge God's Laws, and even involving God in your sinfull plans You want to see what Anny and Sapphy saw, go ahead! |
Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by selleniza: 11:01pm On Apr 28 |
[quote author=Veecruz post=129683846][/quote] It's not about deceiving God, it's about your motive and the plan in your heart. What God hate the most is a man sleeping with a woman without marrying her / taking responsibility. Merely conceiving the idea of doing this is a sin. 1 Like |
Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by Veecruz: 3:49am On Apr 29 |
selleniza: You already plan in your heart to sin anf be unfathfull and break thy covenant with thy first wife and to have sex with a woman who is not thy wife (adultery) in defilement of your marriage bed to thy first wife and you say that you are not trying to deceive God thinking God does not know it neither would He See it, like Ananias and Sapphy did? Did God place responsibilty on you to take wives? Do you realeyes that you are inviting God and involving God to sin with you by.telling Him to pretend with you that you sin not? Flowing from this, do you real eyes that you are asking God to pervert justice and to do evil? I shudder for you ooh! For God will never ever suffer the righteos whether a husband or wife to be moved! And He is just and Holy and the arms of the wicked shall be broken: but the LORD upholdeth the righteous. For thou He is not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness: neither shall evil dwell with thee. 5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity. 6 Thou shalt destroy them that speak leasing: |
Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by selleniza: 7:19am On Apr 29 |
Veecruz: Stop trying to complicate the Bible teachings, marriage to a second woman is acknowledge by God and sleeping with a second woman you marry is not adultery. Solomon was not a child of David first wife, neither was he stated to be born from Adultery. Stop condemning something that God approve just to suit your sensibility. 1 Like |
Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by Veecruz: 8:27am On Apr 29 |
selleniza: Fear God and live. It is know.He is Holy and His eyes are too pure to approve evil neiither can look upon affliction. the LORD will maintain the cause of the afflicted, [and] the right of the poor. selleniza: Same as Cain, same as Ishmeal, same ad ephthah nothing new here. And Now you have moved from the father of silomon who committed adulteries to the son pretending to not know and see that God punished David greatly for his sins and adulteries and was going to kill David and wipe him out if not for His Word (just like Isreal) which is why solomon survived. But God punished David for his adulteries and sins without favout and partiality and gave him hot punishments which no one before him had had befote as a Just.God would do. And God will never change and would never stop being Just and Good and Holy. Psalms 119:67 Before I was afflicted I went astray: but now have I kept thy word. "Though hand join in hand, the sinner shall not go unpunished" and you can see God keeps His Word. So, Revelations has told you people, if you are a sinner, continue sinning |
Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by Westerhoffe(m): 3:31pm On Apr 29 |
StillDtruth: Where in the Bible did GOD declare a man having more than one wife as unrighteousness? You just keep wallowing in your misconceptions and ignorance. I can point out several listed acts of unrighteousness from the Bible, and never have I seen "And a man who has more than one wife is unrighteousness" even after telling David He GOD would have given David such and such things if he had asked instead of taking that of Uriah; for once at any time. The same GOD you lied against, laid out a plan in how a man must share his properties/inheritances among his children by his two wives. Now, are you being dumb or daft to comprehend these things or just trying to shove your misconceptions and ignorance down my throat? When I said I am not programmable, it's because no one, and I mean no one can deceive me when it comes to the Bible. And you even talk of pretense, while you're the very one pretending here! Stop saying what GOD never said, you'd only keep being a liar before us who knew the truth. |
Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by Westerhoffe(m): 3:54pm On Apr 29 |
StillDtruth: YOU ARE A BLATANT LIAR, DECEIVER, AND A MISLEAD WITH YOUR ABOVE CLAIMS! Jacob indeed wanted Rachel because she was the one he met first, fell in love with, and wanted. So he agreed to serve Laban for seven years to have her. But according to the claims of Laban that it can not be so done in his country that the younger sister gets married before the elder is why he deceived Jacob and gave him Leah instead of Rachel. THIS WAS NEVER FROM GOD! YOU LIAR!! Genesis 29 ______________ [color=#990000]²°And Jacob served seven years for Rachel; and they seemed unto him but a few days, for the love he had to her. ²¹ And Jacob said unto Laban, Give me my wife, for my days are fulfilled, that I may go in unto her. ²¹ And Jacob said unto Laban, Give me my wife, for my days are fulfilled, that I may go in unto her. ²² And Laban gathered together all the men of the place, and made a feast. ²³ And it came to pass in the evening, that he took Leah his daughter, and brought her to him; and he went in unto her. ²⁴ And Laban gave unto his daughter Leah Zilpah his maid for an handmaid. ²⁵ And it came to pass, that in the morning, behold, it was Leah: and he said to Laban, What is this thou hast done unto me? did not I serve with thee for Rachel? wherefore then hast thou beguiled me? ²⁶ And Laban said, It must not be so done in our country, to give the younger before the firstborn. ²⁷ Fulfil her week, and we will give thee this also for the service which thou shalt serve with me yet seven other years. ²⁸ And Jacob did so, and fulfilled her week: and he gave him Rachel his daughter to wife also. ²⁹ And Laban gave to Rachel his daughter Bilhah his handmaid to be her maid. ³⁰ And he went in also unto Rachel, and he loved also Rachel more than Leah, and served with him yet seven other years. ³¹ And when the LORD saw that Leah was hated, he opened her womb: but Rachel was barren. You saying Rachel was not GOD'S choice for Jacob is a lie against the LORD GOD, for there is no record of such claims by you in the Bible. You saying because of what you think was why GOD cursed Rachel? OH!! COME ON! Where was it found written in the Bible that GOD cursed Rachel because she was not GOD'S choice for Jacob? STOP THESE LIES ALREADY!!! The reason why Rachel was barren was because GOD saw that Leah was hated! Read the Bible for yourself and understand instead of listening to false teachers! 1 Like |
Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by Veecruz: 4:29pm On Apr 29 |
Westerhoffe: As you begin your madness of repeating yourself, repeat my last answer " If you truly knew what all unrighteosness is and you saw the list of thngs described as unrighteousnesses, then you would have seen that a person must do those things listed as unrighteosnesses on his way to commit the sin of bigamy aka polygamy. On and on and on for as long as your madness carries you. |
Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by Veecruz: 4:33pm On Apr 29 |
Westerhoffe: See madness! Did i say otherwise? Without disagreement person no go know say you be mad person! No wonder the mad repetiion. Hmm! Nna many are mad but they speak english. |
Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by Westerhoffe(m): 4:38pm On Apr 29 |
Veecruz: ANSWER ME! WHERE WAS IT STATED IN THE BIBLE? Where is "Bigamy" stated in the Bible when GOD Himself said: Exodus 21 (KJV) ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ⁹ And if he have betrothed her unto his son, he shall deal with her after the manner of daughters. ¹⁰ If he take him ANOTHER WIFE; her food, her raiment, AND HER DUTY OF MARRIAGE, shall he not diminish. Why didn't GOD say there he must never take another wife for it is adultery or bigamy? You bunch of deceivers trying to mislead the people of your own deception and contortion of the truth. You don't lay claims of what GOD did not say and impute them on Him by your own determination. 1 Like |
Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by Westerhoffe(m): 4:42pm On Apr 29 |
Veecruz: So, that was how I busted you using two accounts, Veecruz and StillDtruth to reply to me when you found out no one was buying your deception and ignorance of an idea? Shame on you for that cowardly act. 1 Like |
Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by Westerhoffe(m): 4:47pm On Apr 29 |
Veecruz: ANSWER ME YOU LIAR, DECEIVER, AND MISLEAD! ASKING ME IF YOU SAID OTHERWISE? ARE YOU REALLY THIS DUMB OR DAFT TO COMPARE WHAT I EXPLAINED IN THE RESPONSE TO WHAT YOU SAID? YOU EVEN HAD TO LIE AGAINST GOD ABOUT WHAT LABAN DID, YOU LIED GOD WAS THE ONE WHO DID IT! AND YOU EVEN HAVE THE GUTS TO ASK IF YOU SAID OTHERWISE!! I am waiting for your reply from any of your other alternate accounts. Bring them on. 1 Like |
Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by MiddleDimension: 7:09pm On Apr 30 |
FayaBall: All of these and still not able to answer thr simple quesyion @Westerhoffe put to you all: Show either through the bible, or through the engliah meaning of the word ''adultery'', that polygamy is adultery. You still cannot! 2 Likes |
Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by MiddleDimension: 7:37pm On Apr 30 |
Lets look at the different definitions of the word ''adultery'' shall we?
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Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by MiddleDimension: 8:20pm On Apr 30 |
And also:
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Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by MiddleDimension: 9:22pm On Apr 30 |
and this too
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Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by MiddleDimension: 9:52pm On Apr 30 |
and these too
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Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by Westerhoffe(m): 9:56pm On Apr 30 |
Veecruz, StillDtruth, I am still waiting for you. |
Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by FayaBall: 8:35am On May 01 |
MiddleDimension: The question had already been answered long before he started repeating himself over and over causing me to speak up and any unbaised person saw it. But you are a lover of Polygamy and an advocate and thus are unshamedly biased so wetin you go talk before especially as I even see your mess up even as fresh as up on this thread . Shioor! |
Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by FayaBall: 8:43am On May 01 |
MiddleDimension: If you like go moon bring meaning of Adultery there, e no change the meaning of Adultery wey all of us know and the fact that serial lover of woman nyansh like you wan use polygamy cover your adultery. No body dey stop your diving into nyanshes and covering up but to say it is allowed by God na big lie, bros. Your lie dey smell baaad! Go and die alone, no dey call us for your die. |
Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by FatherChrlsmas: 11:05am On May 01 |
Veecruz: |
Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by StillDtruth: 11:30am On May 01 |
MiddleDimension: See how you are a Liar! Something I even over answered till the madman whom I did not know was mad then, confessed that I was right and I even raised up the thread about it especially as he ran away after that and did not come back for exactly a month. March 24 to April 24! https://www.nairaland.com/8040571/westerhof-finally-confesses-adultery-polygamy#129086863 Come to think of it, his present madness worsened upon his return, clearly the Truth him madder So see, you are an unrepentant Liar just like Satan and Satan is obviously your father. |
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