| Re: UK Home Office: Students Bringing Dependants To The UK Fall By 80% by firearcher: 7:50am On May 03 |
Nigerians think they are doing UK a favour forgetting that these people are doing it primarily for their own interest and good too. And the moment they think it's no longer favouring them, they will shut the door.
And when they need to again, they will open up and the cycle continues. 3 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: UK Home Office: Students Bringing Dependants To The UK Fall By 80% by BigDawsNet: 7:50am On May 03 |
If the exchange rate is back to the previous administration rates...
Uk will recive more students from Nigeria again 2 Likes |
| Re: UK Home Office: Students Bringing Dependants To The UK Fall By 80% by JimohMomoh: 7:51am On May 03 |
Ewedegubbler:
All those Pakistani and other land of Mordor countries have thoroughly abused thjs system. U see one person go bring his two wives and 12 kids and then they will start living on welfare for the rest of their lazy lives.
I no blame UK joor I no blame them too. The children of these migrants from Pakistan, Syria, Palestine, Iraq, Yemen, Somalia etc... will now grow up to become home grown terrorists. 1 Like |
| Re: UK Home Office: Students Bringing Dependants To The UK Fall By 80% by jowhyte(m): 7:58am On May 03 |
Most of those countries migration pathway are not as straightforward as the UK to be honest. Faster decision and more chances of getting the visa if providing the requirements. It was a good ride for those that utilized the chances while it lasted. emkz:
This is being clever by half.
A recent report also said that the enrollment of non-EU students in a third of UK universities dropped significantly, doubling on the decline from previous year. Because of the decline in international students enrollment which previously contributed to the revenue of universities, some universities have responded by cutting their work force while others have reduced entry standards to attract high-paying international students.
Another report which identified India and Nigeria as source markets for UK universities, stated that financial modelling by PwC "indicates that anywhere from 51% to 80% of UK universities could fall into deficit if international enrolments decline from 2024/25 onwards".
So while Prime Minister Rishi Sunak and Home Secretary James Cleverly are celebrating the decline in dependants, they are afraid to highlight the damage they have done to the UK university system.
Same way, Nigel Farage, former UK Independence Party (UKIP), blamed the UK government for forcing their medical personnel to migrate abroad and poaching such services from poor African nations.
The UK migration policies under the Conservatives have flip-flopped over the years. Their inconsistencies affect long-term planning.
I pray they lose their next elections.
Please, if you have the funds, do not waste it in the UK. Many immigrants are looking towards United States and Australia. New Zealand is not bad. Also Germany, Republic of Ireland, Finland and Sweden. I did not mention Canada as I feel those ones have reached a saturation point after selling immigration for years. 5 Likes |
| Re: UK Home Office: Students Bringing Dependants To The UK Fall By 80% by laivwire(m): 8:02am On May 03 |
I keep laughing when some people will be asking the revenue question.  Are you the one feeding the UK? Are these not the same students who pay a quarter of their school fees and then come in to hustle and pay the rest in instalments? You are spending Uk money, not naija money. Besides, you are also getting the education. They didn't collect money for you to come sit in their country. Besides, all the money you spend while there was also made there. I have no stats but I'm convinced that the percentage of fresh immigrants with high value skills will be less than 20%. Yes, useless immigrants are too many and they have to be repatriated. Its the ugly truth but many immigrants come over to the west and spoil things. They carry damage baggage from their home countries to every place they go. I once saw a video of people looting passenger bags from a flixbus in traffic. By who? Defnitely not citizens of the country. Make una go develop your country too. Do your studies and return home. We can't keep complaining of neocolonialism when our generation is not making an effort at development. 10 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: UK Home Office: Students Bringing Dependants To The UK Fall By 80% by localbreed(m): 8:03am On May 03 |
Dpharisee:
Many migrants don't want to go to UK because of fewer opportunities to make big money, more people are even heading to Russia than UK despite the war in Ukraine. Lol which Russia 1 Like 2 Shares |
| Re: UK Home Office: Students Bringing Dependants To The UK Fall By 80% by xeju: 8:10am On May 03 |
Russia🤔🤣 Dpharisee:
Many migrants don't want to go to UK because of fewer opportunities to make big money, more people are even heading to Russia than UK despite the war in Ukraine. 1 Like |
| Re: UK Home Office: Students Bringing Dependants To The UK Fall By 80% by DeltaBachelor(m): 8:11am On May 03 |
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| Re: UK Home Office: Students Bringing Dependants To The UK Fall By 80% by jowhyte(m): 8:11am On May 03 |
Just Dey play. Nor be only Russia na China. If you know many Nigerians/Africans that are in the UK yet many are still thriving. Canada just widely opened their gate to many more migrants in a record time and they already feeling the heat. Jobs opportunities and housing are no longer easy to come by. Na watin USA and even UK Dey do steady especially since around 2019 yet migrants there are still thriving. When you get to most places in the UK seeing Asians and Africans in their numbers across every sectors then you will be asking yourself what those counties leaders are doing to make their continents better. I would not blame these countries taking hard stand on their migration because they need to control it so they don’t also become one those countries people are trying to run away from. The best way to help the poor is not to become one of them. Sadly Dpharisee:
Many migrants don't want to go to UK because of fewer opportunities to make big money, more people are even heading to Russia than UK despite the war in Ukraine. 2 Likes |
| Re: UK Home Office: Students Bringing Dependants To The UK Fall By 80% by omoredia: 8:11am On May 03 |
emkz:
This is being clever by half.
A recent report also said that the enrollment of non-EU students in a third of UK universities dropped significantly, doubling on the decline from previous year. Because of the decline in international students enrollment which previously contributed to the revenue of universities, some universities have responded by cutting their work force while others have reduced entry standards to attract high-paying international students.
Another report which identified India and Nigeria as source markets for UK universities, stated that financial modelling by PwC "indicates that anywhere from 51% to 80% of UK universities could fall into deficit if international enrolments decline from 2024/25 onwards".
So while Prime Minister Rishi Sunak and Home Secretary James Cleverly are celebrating the decline in dependants, they are afraid to highlight the damage they have done to the UK university system.
Same way, Nigel Farage, former UK Independence Party (UKIP), blamed the UK government for forcing their medical personnel to migrate abroad and poaching such services from poor African nations.
The UK migration policies under the Conservatives have flip-flopped over the years. Their inconsistencies affect long-term planning.
I pray they lose their next elections.
Please, if you have the funds, do not waste it in the UK. Many immigrants are looking towards United States and Australia. New Zealand is not bad. Also Germany, Republic of Ireland, Finland and Sweden. I did not mention Canada as I feel those ones have reached a saturation point after selling immigration for years. Na u dey complain. Go to Saudi and school there 1 Like |
| Re: UK Home Office: Students Bringing Dependants To The UK Fall By 80% by jowhyte(m): 8:18am On May 03 |
I tire, nobody wants to explore other places like China etc. except only the West omoredia:
Na u dey complain. Go to Saudi and school there |
| Re: UK Home Office: Students Bringing Dependants To The UK Fall By 80% by omoredia: 8:20am On May 03 |
jowhyte:
I tire, nobody wants to explore other places except only the West
Let them explore Nigeria to begin with. Charity begins from home. But because Nigerians do not create good things they are busy looking for places to ruin 2 Likes |
| Re: UK Home Office: Students Bringing Dependants To The UK Fall By 80% by ttmacoy: 8:21am On May 03 |
I think without these changes there will be more long term damage to the Uk educational sector. Many of those universities are fast becoming diploma mills only interested in the money international students from Nigeria India etc are bringing and long term this will seriously affect the credibility and reputation of UK universities. We all know majority of the students impacted are not really students but using the student visa as a route to migrate. Those universities will have to adjust and face reality rather than be allowed to continue to admit any and everybody as long as they are willing to pay. There will be short term pain but in my opinion it makes more sense for the long term. UK universities cannot continue the way they have been operating, it’s not sustainable. Those universities impacted will adjust by closing some of the many random and useless courses they offer, trimming their bloated workforce and making more realistic growth plans. The UK already suffers from abundance of so called Mickey degrees where students are enrolling on courses that don't really lead to good paying jobs and now they are focused on enrolling a ton on international students who end up with limited career prospects in the UK just so they can get their international fees. I l know international students from Nigeria who have gone for MBA and now work as care workers just to be able to get work permits to remain in the UK, I'm sure you can see that is not the right path. Many of those universities now offer masters course with placement year even though they do absolutely nothing to help the students get a placement just so they can charge extra fee for the placement year in exchange for helping international students get longer student visas. It's all a charade and a mess. There are many reports of poor teaching, mediocre students who do the bare minimum but lecturers are pressured to pass them so as not to affect the money coming from international students, having classes 90% international students many who can’t even speak or write basic English yet enrolled on a course taught in English. My view is the long term impact of allowing greedy lazy university administrators to depend so much on international students is far worse than the short term impact of the changes being made. emkz:
This is being clever by half.
A recent report also said that the enrollment of non-EU students in a third of UK universities dropped significantly, doubling on the decline from previous year. Because of the decline in international students enrollment which previously contributed to the revenue of universities, some universities have responded by cutting their work force while others have reduced entry standards to attract high-paying international students.
Another report which identified India and Nigeria as source markets for UK universities, stated that financial modelling by PwC "indicates that anywhere from 51% to 80% of UK universities could fall into deficit if international enrolments decline from 2024/25 onwards".
So while Prime Minister Rishi Sunak and Home Secretary James Cleverly are celebrating the decline in dependants, they are afraid to highlight the damage they have done to the UK university system.
Same way, Nigel Farage, former UK Independence Party (UKIP), blamed the UK government for forcing their medical personnel to migrate abroad and poaching such services from poor African nations.
The UK migration policies under the Conservatives have flip-flopped over the years. Their inconsistencies affect long-term planning.
I pray they lose their next elections.
Please, if you have the funds, do not waste it in the UK. Many immigrants are looking towards United States and Australia. New Zealand is not bad. Also Germany, Republic of Ireland, Finland and Sweden. I did not mention Canada as I feel those ones have reached a saturation point after selling immigration for years. 4 Likes |
| Re: UK Home Office: Students Bringing Dependants To The UK Fall By 80% by fasbat(m): 8:24am On May 03 |
emkz:
This is being clever by half.
A recent report also said that the enrollment of non-EU students in a third of UK universities dropped significantly, doubling on the decline from previous year. Because of the decline in international students enrollment which previously contributed to the revenue of universities, some universities have responded by cutting their work force while others have reduced entry standards to attract high-paying international students.
Another report which identified India and Nigeria as source markets for UK universities, stated that financial modelling by PwC "indicates that anywhere from 51% to 80% of UK universities could fall into deficit if international enrolments decline from 2024/25 onwards".
So while Prime Minister Rishi Sunak and Home Secretary James Cleverly are celebrating the decline in dependants, they are afraid to highlight the damage they have done to the UK university system.
Same way, Nigel Farage, former UK Independence Party (UKIP), blamed the UK government for forcing their medical personnel to migrate abroad and poaching such services from poor African nations.
The UK migration policies under the Conservatives have flip-flopped over the years. Their inconsistencies affect long-term planning.
I pray they lose their next elections.
Please, if you have the funds, do not waste it in the UK. Many immigrants are looking towards United States and Australia. New Zealand is not bad. Also Germany, Republic of Ireland, Finland and Sweden. I did not mention Canada as I feel those ones have reached a saturation point after selling immigration for years. your write up is filled with facts and it's well researched, many thanks for your efforts, God bless you abundantly 1 Like |
| Re: UK Home Office: Students Bringing Dependants To The UK Fall By 80% by Bimpe29: 8:24am On May 03 |
This anti Japa measure is really effective for the UK government. |
| Re: UK Home Office: Students Bringing Dependants To The UK Fall By 80% by Dikegodspower(m): 8:32am On May 03 |
emkz:
This is being clever by half.
A recent report also said that the enrollment of non-EU students in a third of UK universities dropped significantly, doubling on the decline from previous year. Because of the decline in international students enrollment which previously contributed to the revenue of universities, some universities have responded by cutting their work force while others have reduced entry standards to attract high-paying international students.
Another report which identified India and Nigeria as source markets for UK universities, stated that financial modelling by PwC "indicates that anywhere from 51% to 80% of UK universities could fall into deficit if international enrolments decline from 2024/25 onwards".
So while Prime Minister Rishi Sunak and Home Secretary James Cleverly are celebrating the decline in dependants, they are afraid to highlight the damage they have done to the UK university system.
Same way, Nigel Farage, former UK Independence Party (UKIP), blamed the UK government for forcing their medical personnel to migrate abroad and poaching such services from poor African nations.
The UK migration policies under the Conservatives have flip-flopped over the years. Their inconsistencies affect long-term planning.
I pray they lose their next elections.
Please, if you have the funds, do not waste it in the UK. Many immigrants are looking towards United States and Australia. New Zealand is not bad. Also Germany, Republic of Ireland, Finland and Sweden. I did not mention Canada as I feel those ones have reached a saturation point after selling immigration for years. You wrote my mind. |
| Re: UK Home Office: Students Bringing Dependants To The UK Fall By 80% by Treadway: 8:40am On May 03 |
emkz:
Home Secretary action delivering major cut in migration
Robust Home Secretary action has driven an almost 80% fall in student dependant applications in the first quarter of 2024 compared to the same period in 2023.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/home-secretary-action-delivering-major-cut-in-migration
well this isn't the full gist. The full gist shows student numbers haven't dropped so much (put at 15%), although we both know when the breakdown is done, we'd find that the Nigerian applicant numbers have plummeted by a huge percentage, but it appears other nationalities still dey go Youkay Zahra29:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/04/30/number-foreign-student-family-members-coming-uk-falls/#comment
Interesting that despite the new restrictions, the drop in UK student visa applications is nominal compared to the doomsday predictions....down to 35,000 from 39,900 this time last year. It would be good to see a breakdown of these student visas by nationality.
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A crackdown on foreign students’ visas has slashed the number of dependants they are bringing into the UK by 80 per cent, Home Office figures show.
The data revealed that the number of dependants granted visas to join their student spouse or parent in the UK has fallen from 32,900 in the first quarter of 2023 to 6,700 in the same period this year.
The number of overseas students applying for visas also fell by 15 per cent, from 39,900 in the first quarter of 2023 to only 35,000 in the same period in 2024....
A crack down by the Home Office on bogus care homes is also believed to have contributed to a 25 per cent fall in the number of health and care visa applications, from 205,800 in the six months from April to September 2023 to 153,500 from October 2023 to March 2024.
This comprised 40,800 main applicants and 112,700 dependants, provisional Home Office data shows. It is likely to reduce further as a ban on care workers bringing dependants into the UK takes effect after being introduced on March 11. Doctors, nurses and other health professionals remain able to bring dependants....
Mr Sunak is expected to announce curbs on foreign student visas amid fears that the route is being used as a back door into claiming asylum.
The Prime Minister is expected to restrict access to the graduate visa route, which currently allows students to remain in the UK for up to two years after finishing their studies without the requirement to get a job.
The announcement is expected to come after the Migration Advisory Committee (Mac) completes a review of the graduate visa route on May 14.
Options understood to be under consideration include reducing the time a foreign graduate can stay in the UK without a skilled job to either six or 12 months.
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| Re: UK Home Office: Students Bringing Dependants To The UK Fall By 80% by Tealcrestmedia(m): 8:50am On May 03 |
Those migrants did not come cheap. On average every student migrant will spend in theory about £40k schooling in the UK. So it's also a loss for their housing market, universities, etc 1 Like |
| Re: UK Home Office: Students Bringing Dependants To The UK Fall By 80% by dominique(f): 9:07am On May 03 |
Antoeni:
Nigerians Can Abuse of Privileges Idians do worse but they don't oust themselves like Nigerians 1 Like |
| Re: UK Home Office: Students Bringing Dependants To The UK Fall By 80% by Cruzmaster: 9:20am On May 03 |
Whalis:
No matter how hard Sunak tries to be more British than the British he will always look like an Indian. No mind the idiot 2 Likes |
| Re: UK Home Office: Students Bringing Dependants To The UK Fall By 80% by fastseo: 9:23am On May 03 |
emkz:
This is being clever by half.
A recent report also said that the enrollment of non-EU students in a third of UK universities dropped significantly, doubling on the decline from previous year. Because of the decline in international students enrollment which previously contributed to the revenue of universities, some universities have responded by cutting their work force while others have reduced entry standards to attract high-paying international students.
Another report which identified India and Nigeria as source markets for UK universities, stated that financial modelling by PwC "indicates that anywhere from 51% to 80% of UK universities could fall into deficit if international enrolments decline from 2024/25 onwards".
So while Prime Minister Rishi Sunak and Home Secretary James Cleverly are celebrating the decline in dependants, they are afraid to highlight the damage they have done to the UK university system.
Same way, Nigel Farage, former UK Independence Party (UKIP), blamed the UK government for forcing their medical personnel to migrate abroad and poaching such services from poor African nations.
The UK migration policies under the Conservatives have flip-flopped over the years. Their inconsistencies affect long-term planning.
I pray they lose their next elections.
Please, if you have the funds, do not waste it in the UK. Many immigrants are looking towards United States and Australia. New Zealand is not bad. Also Germany, Republic of Ireland, Finland and Sweden. I did not mention Canada as I feel those ones have reached a saturation point after selling immigration for years. Yes Canada is no go area. I have people there for over a year no work now 4 Likes |
| Re: UK Home Office: Students Bringing Dependants To The UK Fall By 80% by descarado: 9:25am On May 03 |
fastseo:
Yes Canada is no go area. I have people there for over a year no work now How are they feeding and paying bills |
| Re: UK Home Office: Students Bringing Dependants To The UK Fall By 80% by fastseo: 9:29am On May 03 |
descarado:
How are they feeding and paying bills Borrowing, selling of remaining lands in Naija. Ask anyone who moved in the last 9 to 6months u will confirm. 2 Likes |
| Re: UK Home Office: Students Bringing Dependants To The UK Fall By 80% by descarado: 9:41am On May 03 |
Treadway:
well this isn't the full gist. The full gist shows student numbers haven't dropped so much (put at 15%), although we both know when the breakdown is done, we'd find that the Nigerian applicant numbers have plummeted by a huge percentage, but it appears other nationalities still dey go Youkay
Because their bulk of international students are from China and India in that other. The system was abused by Nigerians that is not even up to one third of Indian students. I was told for existing students that brought dependents, if you or your dependent gets sponsorship, it's only for you, the other is going. We know how to abuse a system. So many stranded and don't know how to go about it. Those s hooling are afraid of coming days and to get sponsorship is hard. 2 Likes |
| Re: UK Home Office: Students Bringing Dependants To The UK Fall By 80% by descarado: 9:42am On May 03 |
dominique:
Idians do worse but they don't oust themselves like Nigerians It's a big lie. |
| Re: UK Home Office: Students Bringing Dependants To The UK Fall By 80% by Yankee101: 10:34am On May 03 |
It’s immigrants or children of immigrants that block other immigrants from coming in alot of times 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: UK Home Office: Students Bringing Dependants To The UK Fall By 80% by DCmonster: 10:38am On May 03 |
helinues:
Una supposed vex, stop going there and build your home so that they would be the one visiting like the way we used to do Building home with people like you 😂😂 clown. |
| Re: UK Home Office: Students Bringing Dependants To The UK Fall By 80% by greypencils: 10:49am On May 03 |
Na una Sabi that one. When US visa lottery cast, we begin UK & Canada. If that one cast, we go go Russia & Australia. Either way, we move. |
| Re: UK Home Office: Students Bringing Dependants To The UK Fall By 80% by obi4eze(m): 10:56am On May 03 |
emkz:
This is being clever by half.
A recent report also said that the enrollment of non-EU students in a third of UK universities dropped significantly, doubling on the decline from previous year. Because of the decline in international students enrollment which previously contributed to the revenue of universities, some universities have responded by cutting their work force while others have reduced entry standards to attract high-paying international students.
Another report which identified India and Nigeria as source markets for UK universities, stated that financial modelling by PwC "indicates that anywhere from 51% to 80% of UK universities could fall into deficit if international enrolments decline from 2024/25 onwards".
So while Prime Minister Rishi Sunak and Home Secretary James Cleverly are celebrating the decline in dependants, they are afraid to highlight the damage they have done to the UK university system.
Same way, Nigel Farage, former UK Independence Party (UKIP), blamed the UK government for forcing their medical personnel to migrate abroad and poaching such services from poor African nations.
The UK migration policies under the Conservatives have flip-flopped over the years. Their inconsistencies affect long-term planning.
I pray they lose their next elections.
Please, if you have the funds, do not waste it in the UK. Many immigrants are looking towards United States and Australia. New Zealand is not bad. Also Germany, Republic of Ireland, Finland and Sweden. I did not mention Canada as I feel those ones have reached a saturation point after selling immigration for years. 1000000000000 likes |
| Re: UK Home Office: Students Bringing Dependants To The UK Fall By 80% by osothermal(m): 11:09am On May 03 |
emkz:
This is being clever by half.
A recent report also said that the enrollment of non-EU students in a third of UK universities dropped significantly, doubling on the decline from previous year. Because of the decline in international students enrollment which previously contributed to the revenue of universities, some universities have responded by cutting their work force while others have reduced entry standards to attract high-paying international students.
Another report which identified India and Nigeria as source markets for UK universities, stated that financial modelling by PwC "indicates that anywhere from 51% to 80% of UK universities could fall into deficit if international enrolments decline from 2024/25 onwards".
So while Prime Minister Rishi Sunak and Home Secretary James Cleverly are celebrating the decline in dependants, they are afraid to highlight the damage they have done to the UK university system.
Same way, Nigel Farage, former UK Independence Party (UKIP), blamed the UK government for forcing their medical personnel to migrate abroad and poaching such services from poor African nations.
The UK migration policies under the Conservatives have flip-flopped over the years. Their inconsistencies affect long-term planning.
I pray they lose their next elections.
Please, if you have the funds, do not waste it in the UK. Many immigrants are looking towards United States and Australia. New Zealand is not bad. Also Germany, Republic of Ireland, Finland and Sweden. I did not mention Canada as I feel those ones have reached a saturation point after selling immigration for years. |
| Re: UK Home Office: Students Bringing Dependants To The UK Fall By 80% by Zahra29: 11:16am On May 03 |
ttmacoy:
I think without these changes there will be more long term damage to the Uk educational sector. Many of those universities are fast becoming money mills only interested in the money international students from Nigeria India etc are bringing and long term this will seriously affect the credibility and reputation of UK universities. We all know majority of the students impacted are not really students but using the student visa as a route to migrate.
Those universities will have to adjust and face reality rather than be allowed to continue to admit any and everybody as long as they are willing to pay. There will be short term pain but in my opinion it makes more sense for the long term. UK universities cannot continue the way they have been operating, it’s not sustainable.
There are many reports of poor teaching, mediocre students who do the bare minimum but lecturers are pressured to pass them so as not to affect the money coming from international students, having classes 90% international students many who can’t even speak or write basic English yet enrolled on a course taught in English. My view is the long term impact of allowing greedy lazy university administrators to depend so much on international students is far worse than the short term impact of the changes being made.
💯 Well said Many universities have become bloated and greedy feeding off the international market and driving down standards just to keep enjoying profits. Knowingly admitting "students" that would otherwise have paid smugglers over £10,000 to get into the UK, instead they found a cheaper and easier route - pay £3000 deposit to some university to get a visa and many then abandoned their studies or claimed asylum as soon as they arrived. The entire system, including universities, was due an overhaul |
| Re: UK Home Office: Students Bringing Dependants To The UK Fall By 80% by AllenSpencer: 11:22am On May 03 |
Whalis:
No matter how hard Sunak tries to be more British than the British he will always look like an Indian. Minorities in power are the biggest disappointments They always trying hard to please their slave masters. 1 Like |
