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| Gettier's Problem by PastorAIO(op): 11:57am On Aug 04, 2008 |
The Gettier problem is considered a problem in modern epistemology issuing from counter-examples to the definition of knowledge as justified true belief (JTB). The problem owes its name to a three-page paper published in 1963, by Edmund Gettier, called "Is Justified True Belief Knowledge?", in which Gettier argues that this is not necessarily the case. Although conducted in esoteric style by academic philosophers, the basic issue is one that everyone is able to relate to - when does a fact become 'a fact', and when is it merely 'opinion'? Conventionally speaking, we count something as knowledge not only if someone believes it to be true, and 'in fact' it is true, but they must also have reasons for their belief. Indeed, the definition of what counts as a 'reason' is itself complicated, as we feel the reason must be 'relevant', and itself based on 'facts' not merely irrational beliefs. One of the clearer scenarios, known as The Cow in the Field, illustrates the situation when the reasoning held for a belief turns out 'in fact' to be faulty. The Cow in the FieldFrom here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gettier_problem Any thoughts or opinions, anyone? |
| Re: Gettier's Problem by Tasma: 3:07pm On Aug 06, 2008 |
Just one comment, the farmer's justification or evidence was in fact false i.e. he thought he had seen the cow whereas he had simply seen a piece of paper. Hence his subjective conclusion at the safety of the cow may have actually been wrong. |
| Re: Gettier's Problem by PastorAIO(op): 12:52pm On Sep 09, 2008 |
Tasma:Yet his belief was right, that the cow was safe in the field. It was his evidence for it that was flawed. Yes he may have been wrong but he wasn't. His belief was without foundation yet he was right. It is a common error to think that because someone's argument as to why something is or is not the case is flawed that must mean that the person is wrong. That also leads on to wonder if it is just our belief in christ that will be judged or whether we will also be judged on the basis of why we believe in Christ. People believe in Christ for various different reasons, some of them are so left field that it boggles. Does that undermine the value of the belief. The bible praises those who have believed just by hearsay and knocks the likes of Thomas who insists on seeing with his eyes and touching with his hands. Is the faith of Thomas to be measured differently due to his insistence on evidence? Does he get points ducked off his heavenly credits? |
| Re: Gettier's Problem by PastorAIO(op): 11:44am On Aug 10, 2011 |
Abeg make una helep me answer the questions above. Was Thomas' confession of faith somehow less than that of others who didn't see but believed? John 20 28Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!” 29Jesus said to him, “Because you have seen Me, have you believed? Blessed are they who did not see, and yet believed.” |
| Re: Gettier's Problem by Image123(m): 5:54pm On Aug 10, 2011 |
^ What did Jesus say? |
| Re: Gettier's Problem by MyJoe: 2:22pm On Aug 12, 2011 |
ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY AND THE TRUE BELIEVERSource Highlights mine. |
| Re: Gettier's Problem by PastorAIO(op): 3:27pm On Jan 02, 2012 |
Bump!! How does Gettier's problem apply to the belief without evidence encouraged in the gospel of John? |
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