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| The Christian Faith Is Based Upon Evidence by malvisguy212: 10:49pm On Feb 14, 2015 |
Sometimes Christians have a mistaken definition of "faith". Because faith is sometimes described as believing in things that cannot be seen, Christians often think of faith as an act of believing in things that have no evidential basis. In essence, some Christians believe that "true faith" is believing in something in spite of the evidence or believing in something when there is no evidence to support the belief in the first place! BIBLICAL DEFINITION OF FAITH; But this is not the Biblical definition of faith. While it is true that God is a Spirit and cannot be seen, it is not true that there is no evidence to support the existence of the unseen God. While we may not see anyone throw a rock in a pond, we may indeed see the ripples that the rock created on the surface of the water and come to the belief that someone threw a rock into the pond on the basis of this evidence. The Christian life is more than a life of blind trust. It is a life of rational examination that challenges each of us to evaluate the evidence, form a conclusion and then share that conclusion with the world around us. Let’s examine the Biblical model of evidential faith: CHRISTIANS ARE CALLED TO USE THEIR MIND>>>>"You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the great and foremost commandment." ( Matthew 22:37-38) When we examine our world and the evidence for the existence of God, we are worshipping God with our mind.it's either we love God with our mind or reject him, it's a choice. CHRISTIANS ARE CALLED TO UNDERSTAND EVIDENCE>>>>Acts 17:31 31 because He has fixed a day in which He will judge the world in righteousness through a Man whom He has appointed, having furnished PROOF to all men by raising Him from the dead.” The Greek word used for "proof" in Acts 17:31 is "pistis". The word is derived from "peitho" which is a Greek verb that means "to convince by argument" that something is either true or false. CHRISTIANS ARE CALLED TO EXAMINE THEIR BELIEF>>>>1 Thessalonians 5:19-21 Do not quench the Spirit; do not despise prophetic utterances. But EXAMINE everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good… God wants us to know what we believe and why we believe it. We’re not called to numbly trust everything that might be taught in our world today.Skepticism is important to the Christian faith; skepticism causes us to examine what we believe and search for the evidence that confirms our beliefs. God honors this kind of skepticism because He knows that it leads to a deeper faith in Him. There is a place for skepticism in the life of the Christian because it causes us to "examine the Scriptures daily". CHRISTIANS ARE CALLED TO BE CONVINCED OF WHAT THEY BELIEVE>>>>2 Timothy 3:14 14 You, however, continue in the things you have learned and become CONVINCED of, knowing from whom you have learned them. Conviction is the result of certainty, and certainty is the result of evidential confidence. We are called to be convinced by mastering the evidence that supports what we believe. The Christians life is not one of "wishful thinking" or "hope in the unreasonable". It is a life of certainty, grounded in the evidence. CHRISTIANS ARE CALLED TO BE CASE MAKER>>>>1 Peter 3:15 15 but sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts, always being ready to make a defense to everyone who asks you to give an account for the hope that is in you, yet with gentleness and reverence; Once we have examined the evidence and have come to the conclusion that Christianity is true, we are called to be ready to make a strong defense for what we believe. IN CONCLUSION; Christians can be "case makers" precisely because the Christian faith is an evidential faith. When we, as Christians, argue for the truth of the Christian Worldview, we are not sharing an opinion. There either is a God, or there is not. Jesus is that God, or He is not. Salvation comes through Christ alone (as Jesus Himself maintained), or it does not. This is not a matter of opinion, personal preference or wishful thinking. The Christian faith is grounded in evidence that can be assessed and evaluated. The Christian faith is an evidential faith. 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: The Christian Faith Is Based Upon Evidence by malvisguy212: 8:23am On Feb 15, 2015 |
Happy Sunday friends. |
| Re: The Christian Faith Is Based Upon Evidence by tartar9(m): 9:30am On Feb 15, 2015 |
and where is the 'evidence' 1 Like |
| Re: The Christian Faith Is Based Upon Evidence by malvisguy212: 9:31am On Feb 15, 2015 |
tartar9:read the op. |
| Re: The Christian Faith Is Based Upon Evidence by haffaze777(m): 11:25am On Feb 15, 2015 |
malvisguy212: what does bible say on how to bury our corpse? back it with biblical evidence and what to do with inheritance, how to share it?peace |
| Re: The Christian Faith Is Based Upon Evidence by malvisguy212: 12:19pm On Feb 15, 2015 |
haffaze777:I don't know the points you are trying to prove here,but; Genesis 49:29 Then he commanded them and said to them, “I am to be gathered to my people; BURY me with my fathers in the CAVE that is in the FILD of Ephron the Hittite, Romans 6:4 We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life. About inheritance read the parable of the prodigal son study it and understand. Also mark12:7 say "But the tenants said to one another, 'This is the heir. Come, let's kill him, and the inheritance will be ours.' The tenants knows that the first son get the inheritance that why they killed him. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark+12&version=KJV |
| Re: The Christian Faith Is Based Upon Evidence by haffaze777(m): 12:27pm On Feb 15, 2015 |
malvisguy212: thanks for d reply but I expect u to elaborate on how to share it if d its between many children,or is it d first son only dat will have it all |
| Re: The Christian Faith Is Based Upon Evidence by malvisguy212: 12:36pm On Feb 15, 2015 |
haffaze777:read genesis 48 and also the story of esau and Jacob. Genesis 48 talk about how Jacob bless is children. |
| Re: The Christian Faith Is Based Upon Evidence by haffaze777(m): 12:48pm On Feb 15, 2015 |
malvisguy212: I will really appreciate it if u can paste it here for all to see |
| Re: The Christian Faith Is Based Upon Evidence by malvisguy212: 12:52pm On Feb 15, 2015 |
haffaze777:https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+49&version=GW |
| Re: The Christian Faith Is Based Upon Evidence by haffaze777(m): 1:03pm On Feb 15, 2015 |
malvisguy212: I don't know how dis correlate wit my question bro? |
| Re: The Christian Faith Is Based Upon Evidence by malvisguy212: 1:13pm On Feb 15, 2015 |
haffaze777:you ask a question,how to divides inheritance plus biblical verse, and I supply it to you, what else do you want? Jacob has 12 son when he was about to die,he blessed the son I even went ahead and provide biblical verse were the son get the inheritance, Jesus parable, and the prodigal son. If you cannot reconcile all this, am sorry, that's all I've got. Thank you. |
| Re: The Christian Faith Is Based Upon Evidence by ubijus: 1:24pm On Feb 15, 2015 |
@Op, I agree with you 100 percent on the MIND. Christianity is truly the religion of the mind. All the teachings of christ from love to purity centre on the mind. Luke 10:27 christ said we are to love the Lord our God with all our heart, all our strength and all your mind see also Deuteronomy 6:5 and Mathew 5:28 Though we congregate in church buildings, the actual worship of God takes place in the mind. The mind is where the temple of God is within humans and it behooves on christians to develop their minds in other to have a better christian life/experience. 1 Like |
| Re: The Christian Faith Is Based Upon Evidence by haffaze777(m): 1:35pm On Feb 15, 2015 |
malvisguy212: thanks den |
| Re: The Christian Faith Is Based Upon Evidence by malvisguy212: 1:35pm On Feb 15, 2015 |
ubijus:thank you for your wonderful contribution. Remain blessed. 1 Like |
| Re: The Christian Faith Is Based Upon Evidence by malvisguy212: 1:42pm On Feb 15, 2015 |
OAM4J. Can you recommend this thread to homepage? |
| Re: The Christian Faith Is Based Upon Evidence by malvisguy212: 8:25pm On Feb 15, 2015 |
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| Re: The Christian Faith Is Based Upon Evidence by tola9ja: 8:40pm On Feb 15, 2015 |
CHRISTIAN FAITH IS BASE ON EVIDENCE THE BIBLICAL EVIDENCE OF GOING TO CHURCH OF SUNDAY, CLAPPING DURING WORSHIP, WHERE JESUS SAY HE BROUGHT CHRISTIANITY,CHRISTMAS ,GOING TO JERUSALEM,WHERE JESUS CALL HIS FOLLOWER CHRISTIAN ? [size=25pt]I MEAN BIBLICAL EVIDENCES NOT FABRICATION PLEASE [/size] 1 Like |
| Re: The Christian Faith Is Based Upon Evidence by malvisguy212: 9:00pm On Feb 15, 2015 |
tola9ja:read the op again and tell me what you understand,Christians are called to ask question and examine there faith and be fully convinced of the evidence giving. But, this is not true with Islam. Allah and Muhammad discourage Muslims from asking questions. From infancy Muslims are groomed to abstain from questioning the tenents of Islam. Surah 5:101-102: “O ye who believe! Ask not questions about things which if made plain to you, may cause you trouble …Some people before you did ask such questions, and on that account lost their faith.” (Yusuf Ali) Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 3, Number 92: Narrated Abu Musa: The Prophet was asked about things which he did not like, but when the questioners insisted, the Prophet got angry. |
| Re: The Christian Faith Is Based Upon Evidence by Skako(m): 9:08pm On Feb 15, 2015 |
Pls explain these 1 jesus fasted for 40days and night,but explain ur 40 days fasting 2 what is the name of cain and abel wives 3 did jesus dance or clapp 4 did jesus have church 5 hw to share orphans property more no the road.... |
| Re: The Christian Faith Is Based Upon Evidence by Skako(m): 9:17pm On Feb 15, 2015 |
malvisguy212:this verse refers to those ppl that were TOO questioned u can ask question according to the verse but TOO MUCH can cause him trouble |
| Re: The Christian Faith Is Based Upon Evidence by malvisguy212: 9:41pm On Feb 15, 2015 |
Skako:in Christianity, asking question has no limit, one can ask until he was fully convinced. Jesus has skeptic "Thomas" he ask question until he was fully convinced. Why did Muhammad become angry at those who asked him questions? Why were people warned by Allah not to ask questions? How is that in Islam, questioning can lead to losing one’s faith? Does not this prove that even the right answers can lead to losing one’s faith in Islam? |
| Re: The Christian Faith Is Based Upon Evidence by tola9ja: 9:55pm On Feb 15, 2015 |
malvisguy212: IN ALL WHAT YOU POSTED I DINT SEE THE STRAIGHT EVIDENCE FOR THESE THE BIBLICAL EVIDENCE OF GOING TO CHURCH OF SUNDAY, CLAPPING DURING WORSHIP, WHERE JESUS SAY HE BROUGHT CHRISTIANITY,CHRISTMAS ,GOING TO JERUSALEM,WHERE JESUS CALL HIS FOLLOWER CHRISTIAN ? SOLVE IT FOR ME ONE BY ONE 1 Like |
| Re: The Christian Faith Is Based Upon Evidence by malvisguy212: 9:56pm On Feb 15, 2015 |
Skako:your number one question irrelevant,everybody knows it. Can marry one of his sister,the bible say adam firstborn was Cain but never say the second born was abel, the bible only say the second SON was abel meaning there are girl in between Cain and abel. After Cain killed abel eve gave birth to seth when adam was 130 years,one of there sister must have gone to the east. Cain marry his sister, at that time the law of inces't has not been giving so it was not a theological problems,. They were in a state of perfection there genetic mutations has no defects. We worship God in spirit and truth, the psalms of David talk about sing for joy in the lord and dance. Read through the post,some one ask the same question and I provide biblical verse about inheritance. |
| Re: The Christian Faith Is Based Upon Evidence by malvisguy212: 9:57pm On Feb 15, 2015 |
Skako: |
| Re: The Christian Faith Is Based Upon Evidence by malvisguy212: 10:36pm On Feb 15, 2015 |
tola9ja:about going to church on Sunday I promise to open a thread about it and invite you in. Jesus did not preach religions,his mission was to reconciled us back to God.when Jesus say the word "OUR FATHER" is a universal word for all, when you say this word is like saying God is your father and we are brothers,God want to have a personal relationship with his creatures.When God created Adam, He created him in a relationship with Himself. He walked with him in the garden. When Adam sinned, that relationship was severed. The death that Adam died was not a passing out of existence but a divorce in his relationship with God. Jesus is the second Adam, the new man, the one who came to bring life were death had reigned. "In other religions the goal is to please their god(s) enough to be accepted into heaven" This is an erroneous assertion.example is Islam, if your Good deed outweigh your bad deed'God will accept you, but in Christianity, salvation is free.once you accepted Jesus Christ , you will not be judge, your righteousness will be accepted by God. For Christmas read here https://www.nairaland.com/2042382/why-christians-should-celebrate-christmas.not |
| Re: The Christian Faith Is Based Upon Evidence by mmsen: 11:11pm On Feb 15, 2015 |
All this talk and not a shred of said 'evidence'. |
| Re: The Christian Faith Is Based Upon Evidence by johnw74: 11:53pm On Feb 15, 2015 |
Rom 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. We come to faith by hearing a Pastor preach from the Bible. and we come to faith by reading the bible, seek and you will find, God gives us faith just for seeking Him, He wants you to want Him. Mat_7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: Eph_2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: |
| Re: The Christian Faith Is Based Upon Evidence by malvisguy212: 12:35am On Feb 16, 2015 |
mmsen:you miss the points,what the op is talking about is this;Christians are advice to question there faith and seek for answer,all the evidence are there in the bible, a bias book will never advice you to be more sceptical and ask question,abi? But the bible advice everyone should ask question,unlike the quran which forbid Muslims to question there belief. I understand you are seeking for evidence out side the bible,here is one authentic evidence; archaeologists have found first- century dedications with the names Jesus, Matthias and "Simon Bar- Yonah" ("Peter son of Jonah"  along withtestimonials that bear direct witness to the Savior. http://www.leaderu.com/theology/burialcave.html |
| Re: The Christian Faith Is Based Upon Evidence by malvisguy212: 8:16am On Feb 16, 2015 |
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| Re: The Christian Faith Is Based Upon Evidence by tola9ja: 10:58am On Feb 16, 2015 |
malvisguy212: you said jesus did not preach religion that means he no noting about Christianity? U have not reply these CLAPPING DURING WORSHIP,,HOLY PILGRIMAGE TO JERUSALEM |
| Re: The Christian Faith Is Based Upon Evidence by malvisguy212: 7:28pm On Feb 16, 2015 |
tola9ja:yes,jesus did not preach religion,it was the behaviour of the disciples,they behave like Christ, and the people nicknamed them Christian meaning Christ-like,Simon peter was the leader and he was one of Jesus disciple meaning he was a witnesses to All the message of Jesus Christ. ◄ Psalm 84:5 ► What joy for those whose strength comes from the LORD, who have set their minds on a pilgrimage to Jerusalem. ◄ Psalm 98:4 ► New International Version Shout for joy to the LORD, all the earth, burst into jubilant song with MUSIC; New Living Translation Shout to the LORD, all the earth; break out in praise and SING for joy How do you sing? Is not by clapping hands? I may not reply you anymore because this was not the reason I open this thread. |
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