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What a story.
i'll sum it up with Pascals wager 'that the theist will have nothing to loose even if at the end we found no God'. But for those that doesnt recognise God in the doing,i may not be able to tell what will happen to them,if at the end we found theres a God

Hahaha! This is the kind of story that keeps you guys going, no? You all just love these "stories" from hell, don't you? Absolutely bizarre.

Oh my what a story.

It simply raises more questions than answers.
I wonder what language the "Welcome in Hell" was written.

Christianity at its best, believe all the lies we spew or burn in hell. . . .This story is very clearly a made up fictitious fantasy. . . .

Acts:2 vs 17-19>>>>17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: 18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy: 19 And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke

it is much better to believe now than to wait to find the hard way later.What we sow today we will reap in eternity.

toba:

What a story.
i'll sum it up with Pascals wager 'that the theist will have nothing to loose even if at the end we found no God'. But for those that doesnt recognise God in the doing,i may not be able to tell what will happen to them,if at the end we found theres a God

Pascal Wager would have made a lot of sense but it's not really as simple as that in practice. It's not just about believing in God.It's about believing in a particular version of God.
There are so many versions of God out there and each person says "You are doomed if you do not believe in my particular version of God".

VALIDATOR:

Pascal Wager would have made a lot of sense but it's not really as simple as that in practice. It's not just about believing in God.It's about believing in a particular version of God.
There are so many versions of God out there and each person says "You are doomed if you do not believe in my particular version of God".

Obatala's wager dey dia o! Ogun's wager no derun at all! Many people will fail Shango's wager, i swear.

hello,
   the fact is that you do not even understand what hell is, it is the common grave of mankind [you are confirmed dead for you to be there], if you go there, there is no coming back until the resurrection takes place. you are trying to say hell fire, which is a fat lie cos the is no hell fire,place of torment found anywhere in the bible. the teaching of hell fire is only as a result of misunderstanding the bible. clear that off you mind, for real.
    it might be true that you hard a deep dream showing you to be in a place of torment, well that is because you have it in mind. cos in a way it is wat you think about that you dream of.  if you want people to get away from sin just tell them you dont have to get them scared. if you have any other thing to say, as in points to back up hell fire, i am waiting.

luv,
small man.

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This woman has a vivid imagination.

Watch out for "My journey to Kalakuta Republic" by Ibime coming very soon.

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toba:

What a story.
i'll sum it up with Pascals wager 'that the theist will have nothing to loose even if at the end we found no God'. But for those that doesnt recognise God in the doing,i may not be able to tell what will happen to them,if at the end we found theres a God

And I'll rebut with Smith's Wager.

"    As one final argument or satire on an argument, you may have heard of Pascal's wager at some point. Blaise Pascal was the famous French mathematician, philosopher, and theologian. He came up with this argument which consequently became quite famous, which went something as follows. Reason can't prove or disprove the existence of God. Weigh the odds. If the atheist is correct, we're going to die, nothing will happen, and nothing is lost. But if the Christian is correct, the nonbelievers are going to be in Hell for eternity. So it seems like the practical odds would lie with Christianity. We would wager on Christianity because the practical odds are so important. If you wager on Christianity and there is no god, you don't lose anything.

    The first obvious problem with this is it completely shoves aside the whole issue of intellectual integrity, as if you can just do a complete turn-about in your beliefs willy-nilly without suffering any psychological damage, which simply isn't possible. It would require such a gross miscarriage of intellectual integrity to do this kind of thing that it's inconceivable that someone with Pascal's kind of mind would even offer it.

    But I want to offer you a kind of counter-wager, called the "Smith's wager." Here are the premises of my wager:

    1. The existence of a god, if we are to believe in it, can only be established through reason.
    2. Applying the canons of correct reasoning to theistic belief, we must reach the conclusion that theism is unfounded and must be rejected by rational people.

    Now comes the question, "But what if reason is wrong in this case?", which it sometimes is. We are fallible human beings. What if it turns out that there is a Christian god and He's up there and He's going to punish for eternity for disbelieving in Him. Here's where my wager comes in. Let's suppose you're an atheist. What are the possibilities? The first possibility is there is no god, you're right. In that case, you'll die, that'll be it, you've lost nothing, and you've lived a happy life with the correct position. Secondly, a god may exist but he may not be concerned with human affairs. He may be the god of traditional Deism. He may have started the universe going and left it to its traditional devices, in which case you will simply die, that is all there is to it, again, and you've lost nothing.

    Let's suppose that God exists and He is concerned with human affairs -- He's a personal god -- but that He is a just god. He's concerned with justice. If you have a just god, he could not possibly punish an honest error of belief where there is no moral turpitude or no wrongdoing involved. If this god is a creator god and He gave us reason as the basic means of understanding our world, then He would take pride in the conscientious and scrupulous use of reason the part of His creatures, even if they committed errors from time to time, in the same way a benevolent father would take pride in the accomplishments of his son, even if the son committed errors from time to time. Therefore, if there exists a just god, we have absolutely nothing to fear from such a god. Such a god could not conceivably punish us for an honest error of belief.

    Now we came to the last possibility. Suppose there exists an unjust god, specifically the god of Christianity, who doesn't give a damn about justice and who will burn us in Hell, regardless of whether we made honest mistakes or not. Such a god is necessarily unjust, for there is no more heinous injustice we could conceive of, than to punish a person for an honest error of belief, when he has tried to the best of his ability to ascertain the truth. The Christian thinks he's in a better position in case this kind of god exists. I wish to point out that he's not in any better position than we are because if you have an unjust god. The earmark of injustice is unprincipled behavior, behavior that's not predictable. If there's an unjust god and He really gets all this glee out of burning sinners and disbelievers, then what could give him more glee than to tell Christians they would be saved, only to turn around and burn them anyway, for the Hell of it, just because he enjoys it? If you've got an unjust god, what worst injustice could there be than that? It's not that far-fetched. If a god is willing to punish you simply for an honest error of belief, you can't believe He's going to keep his word when He tells you He won't punish you if you don't believe in Him because He's got to have a sadistic streak to begin with. Certainly He would get quite a bit of glee out of this behavior. Even if there exists this unjust god, then admittedly we live in a nightmarish universe, but we're in no worse position than the Christian is.

    Again, if you're going to make the wager, you might as well wager on what your reason tells you, that atheism is correct, and go that route because you won't be able to do anything about an unjust god anyway, even if you accept Christianity. My wager says that you should in all cases wager on reason and accept the logical consequence, which in this case is atheism. If there's no god, you're correct; if there's an indifferent god, you won't suffer; if there's a just god, you have nothing to fear from the honest use of your reason; and if there's an unjust god, you have much to fear but so does the Christian."

- By George H. Smith