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I code in php and I use Mysql Database also as my back end in developing websites am thinking of may be taking another web development course, and I have in mind asp. Is it a wise choice and what is the advantages asp has over php I know little differences b/w them.
One the cost in hosting with a window server that is hostting a site with asp is costlier
Client hardly ask the language you are developing with, what they want is to see their job done
Is there anything that an asp programmer will be able to achieve that a php programer will not achieve.
Pls help

Why dont you go for python ? Its a better alternative to php.

Do you have a problem with PHP? Why do you want to learn another language that performs the same function with PHP. While not learn something else.

There's still more to PHP why not PHP Frameworks like ZendFramework and PEAR, though i got to admit .NET will be a good choice for another course since it's an Enterprise Tool. anyway take care got books on them incase u need later

I don't flirt with programming languages until there's a real need to.
I am as faithful to one server side language as I am to my babe(s)



Rather than flirt with ASP why don't you spend more time in bed with PHP.

Yeah learning another language is just like toasting another babe from scratch too much stress especially when their coding conventions and patterns are not similar, though .NET much of stuffs have been done for u compared to PHP which u have to do stuffs manually,

hi,

i have a different view of this issue. I read sometime that one of the common mistakes made by developers is sticking to a particular programming language. Although, like you may likely discover, there is always something new to learn in php (and due to it's huge support base, there is a great prospect that php is going to be around for a long time) but for the following reasons i think you should explore other languages:

1) Sooner or later there wld be a language that would eclipse php. before php appeared on the scene there was perl, C#, java, C++. They all had their usage and at one point or the other they were the 'in-thing' but with the advent of Open source and most especially php, things took a whole different shape. Now you don't need to know jack about java applets before you can develop a web app. But they too had their heyday but they were overtaken by newer and better technologies so it is just common sense that sooner or later some 'new language' is coming and it would do what php does and much more better too.

2) Till now php is still regarded not used to develop serious 'enterprise' applications and one of the main reason is that php is open source and therefore if anything goes wrong with your application, and the problem is from the source codes, there is no one to hold responsible. This is the major advantage of asp and the .Net technologies.

3) Variety still remains the spice of life even in programming, the more languages you know, the more you can explore and the more you can experiment. Although i forsee in future better integration amongst the various technologies but till then, the more the merrier.

These are some of the reasons why i think you shld experiment with other languages.

Lastly, even though you shld try other languages, professionalize on one that is very important!

My tots.

Till now php is still regarded not used to develop serious 'enterprise' applications

Nothing Personal but this statement here is crap first of all yes we all agree PHP is Open Source and most of its codes largely depends on external programmers PHP has a good Framework apart from PEAR it's called Zend Framework and it uses C++ Library at the Back-end before you say it can't be used for Enterprise Application i will suggest you check on it, there's more to PHP then PEAR and the SPL Libraries, Zend Codes are regulated the Developers of PHP Themselves unlike the others out there. and quote me wrong its ironic how u will say if something goes wrong with your Code i can count on Open source to roll out fixes and new features every mile though i admit .NET has big Libraries,

Experimenting with other programming language is not bad but remember time is money if u have no reason to learn to be developing with it then its a waste of time except u intend to instill that knowledge until other.also there's no Programming language that will bring out new from C++ and C, infact the newer languages are more of Stripped off languages even till now companies will still prefer to C++ Application to either C# in terms of speed.PHP runs mostly on C++ so does Perl, My point is if you have no intention to develop with it then drop it,

1. PHP will be here for a very long timeit will not be replaced. The only thing that can replace php is. If someone can develop a programming language such that you can write

connect to my database Alice

Display all rows from Alice Walker (where walker is the table name)

and it should give you a good graphical interface.


2.
you may want to read this

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/130869/can-php-handle-enterprise-level-sites-as-well-as-java

Some businesses are simply afraid of using open source application thinking it will be all bugged down and no support. There is support for open source application simply go to the applications website, surely there is going to be a forum or google and you will find it. If you dont find any a site like stackoverflow , and others are available to post your questions.

Eclipse, wordpress, joomla, OpenGroupware, OSCommerce, Thousands of open source projects you will get supported.


3. Learn one, become proficient and continue improving your skills then after that you can consider picking up another

@Cactus i obviously when it comes to Enterprise Application no company will like to entrust it Application to an Environment popluated by Freelance Coders and Hackers i won't expect a bank to use PHP but am tackling the "Can PHP build enterprise Application yes it can", Cactus i really want you to take a look into Zend Framework i do OOP and i can tell you it looks interested it has libraries tons of them also u can just import each module rather than the whole framework for instance(Note**Pseudo Code) mysql_Delegate extends Zend_DB_Model

$mysql_Delegate->read("Walker";
$mysql_Delegate->print();

it's that easy and they all adopt the most popular pattern u can think of am already trying to use it though it looks like it will require your server to run that this is the future, getting Youtube meta data is child's play here this Zend Framework and PEAR is a must learn for any PHP programmer who has left procedural coding,

Learn one, become proficient and continue improving your skills then after that you can consider picking up another

I will have to agree anyway if not for me learning Java i wouldn't have gotten comfortable with OOP PHP.
take care

@pc_guru, i started picking up codeigniter, very powerful and its automated code generation makes things faster but not easy to grasp when you start doing  permissions and privileges. can get complicated.

I also tried symfony. simpler,  feels more logical to me. The PHP MVC framework help developers which I completely agreed with. I can put things together and get an application up and running, but i still feel so comfortable with the normal coding of each line. I keep switching back to the normal code writing method.

I dont feel too comfortable with PHP frameworks.

The main issue is adoption. Banks can use PHP I believe it all depends on the type of architecture, usability and portability of codes. Security, that can be tackled.

There are no 100% secured IT systems in the world. Definitely some are more secured than others.

nothing feels better than writing every line by urself! :-p

i go with jeshurun07  idea of learning different languages ,

In this book 97 things every programmer should know, two programmers emphasized on this fact! One said a new language should be learned every year, The other made his idea that it should be at least 6-8 months or so!

They made this suggestion for some good reasons, one that i have experienced myself cuts down to the fact that , in development, and programming at times, you have to meet a deadline and you just can't figure out the best approach to get the project done with the language you have in mind,

At that point, Google may not be friendly, knowledge and experience in another language may just be the solution.

Then you switch platform to a second language!

Remember when i was developing an Application, i had to perform something that at that time, only my good LinkHashMap class could get done for me at the urgency level facing me,

Thank God for Java Servlet Pages, i activated a quickSwitchLanguage(){} else, would have lost some good cash.

Try ASP or JSP they are as good as PHP or maybe better, as they are regarded as Enterprise Application Development languages!

Active server pages (asp) is a server scripting language like php so why bother, except you are suspecting that a client is going to ask u to host his or her site on a windows server.

^^ You can run PHP on a Windows server.


My opinion: Don't create a need for a needless act. While you are burning brain juice learning another server side lingo your contemporary is mastering his "home" lingo.

I no talk sey make u no learn o. This na just my opinion, my life is too short for timeouts and we don't have injury (stoppage) time.

^^^PHP can run everywhere

we can even run it on women, as complex as their os may be.

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O booy.
Nairaland owners don chop money o. na dubai hotel they advertise for here o
money money money:::; bad mooney i beg i wan learn all this things o
Although i already knw how to build a website. but i need to knw more o
I am so humble.

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