Christianity Etc › Re: Why I Published The TB Joshua Bribery Audio - Nicholas Ibekwe by 50pseamer(m): 11:17pm On Sep 23, 2014 |
[quote author=sabdaz][/quote]My brother am an Engineer, and am not a civil engineer, if i want to build a house , an architect will do the drawing , a civil or structural engineer with do the structural design, a mechanical Engineer will do the piping design, and an Electrical Engineer will do electrical Design, all this people have stamps to attest the integrity of their design, if anything goes wrong they will be held responsible. not me because i did not do the design, i only employed approved people by goverment to do it, and if they make stupid mistakes they have to pay for it. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why I Published The TB Joshua Bribery Audio - Nicholas Ibekwe by 50pseamer(m): 11:12pm On Sep 23, 2014 |
byrron: Na wa for u oooo. Who owns the building? Who authorized the construction of additional 4 story building without the regulatory agency approval? Who has been benefiting from the economic proceeds on that structure?
Why don't u want him to take responsibility?
No insult intended but u didn't make any sense in what u wrote up there. and who told you it is TB joshua dat decided that 4 stories can be added, such things are done by Engineers and contractors,who do the calculations, TB joshua is not an Engineer, so if an accident happens in guiness nigeria we start insulting the ceo of guiness , only the engineer responsible gets punished or faces the judge, is not the CEOs fault he paid for the services of an expert. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why I Published The TB Joshua Bribery Audio - Nicholas Ibekwe by 50pseamer(m): 11:06pm On Sep 23, 2014 |
zboyd: Are these examples of Prophets of God?
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Btw...self-serving jackals and their pack-mates can stand on their hind legs and bay at the moon all they want but, eventually, they will be sniffed out and their scat exposed...it's only a matter of time. My Brother the question is if we focus on this, are we ourselves any better, pastors are also humans like us so its no big deal, they can be tempted and they can make mistakes too, not to forget that there are genuine and fake pastors just like there are decent and irresponsible ordinary followers too. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why I Published The TB Joshua Bribery Audio - Nicholas Ibekwe by 50pseamer(m): 10:58pm On Sep 23, 2014 |
sorom4: Its either you are biased or that you have refused to think properly. Who owns the property that failed? Who contracted the Engrs? Who is paying them? Who do they get their orders from? Simple reason should tell you who should answer and bear all the problems. But put aside all these. The problem here and that was why Nicolas was not happy was that the truth was abt to be swept under the carpet. The reporters were giving us a wrong info to d public jst 2 cos there pockets were swelled you can only sweep what has not been in the media under the feet, and if you are saying that if i get orders from you to repair your faulty car, as a trained mechanic and i am to be paid for it, then i burn your car including people inside the car whilst i am still working on the car, it is your fault and are you the bad guy. This issue is not as serious as the journalist is shouting about it, when he was giving money to help footballers that made Nigeria proud no condemnation, but now he gave to visiting journalist and people are making the issue as if he committed murder and the journalists are the Judge in the court of law, if 50,000 will buy the conscience of any journalist then we need to think again. to the giver 50,000 could be a change, but the receiver might have a tiny mind to think its money to buy his conscience, lets leave God to Judge so that we will not also be wrongly Judged as we jugded others |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why I Published The TB Joshua Bribery Audio - Nicholas Ibekwe by 50pseamer(m): 8:45pm On Sep 23, 2014 |
exxell: [b]Are you kidding me right now bro? When are we going to learn to call a spade a spade in this cursed and accursed nation? 50k for fuel money? Are they traveling to Sambisa? And why was he asking them what they are going to write after offering them that money? Let me be honest with you, he was clearly trying to influence their statements although he didnt say it out clear. But he implied it by his questions. Ok... Granted you have given them money, why are is he interested in what they will write? Bro like I said in my previous comment, I just like this man as a human being but I also question his motives and ways most times....
Alright... Let me be analytical right now. What type of God will show him who will win the nations cup, which president will die and where terrorists will attack next but will never show him that his guest house will collapse? The African God of course.... If there is anything like that. Bro sentiments aside, in sane countries, TB Joshua will be cooling of his heels in an investigative room right now. I am a staunch Christian and A catholic for that matter. But I refuse to serve any God that will call me home through bombing or building collapse.... You will never understand the pain bro.
I MAINTAIN MY STAND... NICHOLAS IBEKWE DESERVES APPRECIATION AND A NATIONAL AWARD. WE NEED MORE OF HIM IN THIS COUNTRY TO SPEARHEAD AN HONEST REVOLUTION. I JUST VISITED HIS BLOG RIGHT NOW AND IF YOU SCROLL THROUGH HIS PREVIOUS POSTS AND WRITINGS THROUGH THE YEARS, YOU WILL COME TO BEAR WITH ME THAT HE HAS BEEN A GOOD NIGERIAN. HE HAS BEEN AN ANTI-CORRUPTION CRUSADER. I EVEN READ WHAT HE POSTED LAST YEAR ON THE OGA AT THE TOP ISSUE AND OTHER THINGS CONCERNING NIGERIA. HE IS NOT TRYING TO PULL TB JOSHUA DOWN.... HE IS JUST BEING HONEST AND UNBIASED. THAT IS WHAT REAL JOURNALISM SHOULD BE. HOW I WISH CNN OR BBC CAN SEE THIS GUY AND PICK UP! NIGERIA AS A DOOMED COUNTRY DOESNT DESERVE A SAINT LIKE THIS![/b] How come the Catholic church in the North didnt know boko haram was comming, Tb Joshua only said he is a prophet He is not God , and the prophets of God dont always know all, tell me of a prophet in the bible that knew it all. if it was a structural fault what is the role of the authorities in checking authenticity of approvals before allowing such a buiding to proceed. ive also lived in nigeria before, council people will even mark X on a bulding before you make any move. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why I Published The TB Joshua Bribery Audio - Nicholas Ibekwe by 50pseamer(m): 8:39pm On Sep 23, 2014 |
If someone is a lawyer, pls tell me how TB Joshua is to blame or be jailed for the failure of a building involving an architect, Engineer and Builder, really funny, tell me how you can be blamed for the failure of your own car while it is under repair at the mechanics workshop, Nigerians are unbelievable at times, i think all this accusations are biased. that building does not look like a building a Pastor designed. LETS USE OUR LOGICAL REASONING POSITIVELY BEFORE THROWING ARROWS AT OTHERS PLS |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why I Published The TB Joshua Bribery Audio - Nicholas Ibekwe by 50pseamer(m): 8:26pm On Sep 23, 2014 |
woodcook: You mind me asking what you do for a living? In as much as Joshua is not engineer but his church contracted them, hence, if "something" goes wrong he stands to be the first accuse. youre very wrong, the fault will be passed down to the contractor and then to the engineer in charge of the design |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why I Published The TB Joshua Bribery Audio - Nicholas Ibekwe by 50pseamer(m): 8:17pm On Sep 23, 2014 |
woodcook: I dont easily get shocked but you did surprised me. If I may ask how do you cross a motor way? If you cant understand the point then then you dont know what it means technically when a building fails for whatever reason, i am sane most of the statements here are biased and i doubt if these people even know God or know the truth, its better to be quite that to blame TB joshua for a collapsed building because he is not the architect, civil engineer or contractor handling the building |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why I Published The TB Joshua Bribery Audio - Nicholas Ibekwe by 50pseamer(m): 8:12pm On Sep 23, 2014 |
jnrbayano: Here is a person who is compassionate as Jesus the master taught.
Here is a person who has turned down a huge amount of money in respect for the dead.
Here is a person who values human lives and will put his life on the line to pass that across.
Here is a person who cares about his fatherland, Nigeria
Here is a person who loves his job and is contented with the low proceeds that comes out of it.
Here is a person who has a working conscience. BUT BROS IS TB JOSHUA THE ENGININEER OR BUILDING CONTRACTOR HANDLING THE PROJECT , THAT HE HAS A NEED TO BRIBE REPORTERS SO HE WONT GO TO JAIL, INVESTIGATION IS ONGOING , THE REPORTER MAKES NO TECHNICAL SENSE, HE JUST LOST MONEY TO EAT GOOD FOOD
May the good lord shield you from evil and never stop blessing you.
Amen. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why I Published The TB Joshua Bribery Audio - Nicholas Ibekwe by 50pseamer(m): 7:56pm On Sep 23, 2014 |
exxell: @Nicholas, I dont really know what your motive is but all I can tell you is kudos and more greas to your elbow. I loved the part where you said if it was the Pope you will still come out with the story.... I used to love TB Joshua even though am a Catholic. Even when I listened to the Audio and I knew it was a bribe (though not implicitly stated in the audio); I still decided to "deceive" myself and convince myself that its not a bribe but one of his generous gimmicks.... But what really troubled me in the audio was the way people were laughing in the audio... The MOG included. I was so suprised. Were peoples lives that trivial that he had to be laughing at that moment in time? I leave judgement to the boss in the sky! PLS ANSWER THE QUESTION BEFORE YOU SUPPORT, IS TB JOSHUA AN ENGINEER OR A BUILDING CONTRACTOR, IF YOU EMPLOY A DRIVER AND HE KILLS SOMEONE WITH YOUR CAR, ARE YOU THE CULPRIT, LET US FEAR GOD, THIS JOURNALIST DESERVES NO APPRECIATION, I THINK HE IS HEARTLESS HE JUST RUBBED THE GOODWILL OF THE MAN IN THE MUD YOU THINK IT IS EVERYONE THAT MOURNS THAT EVEN HAS TIME TO RESPOND TO SOME JOURNALIST NOT TO TALK OF GIVING THEM MONEY. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why I Published The TB Joshua Bribery Audio - Nicholas Ibekwe by 50pseamer(m): 7:49pm On Sep 23, 2014*. Modified: 8:50pm On Sep 23, 2014 |
Reporter, i think you are just looking for cheap popularity, im not a member of the synagogue, but it is not civilized to judge a case that is under investigation, moreover youre not a technically qualified person to judge whether the structure was strong enough to carry additional floors or not, and note there should have been a project Engineer assigned to the project, TB Joshua is not an engineer or builder, he did not do the calculations, stop spoiling his Name , fear God, you have a lot of followers here but i think they will have a change of heart if they can see that projects like that have Engineers assigned to them, and if it was a structural problem the engineer will be held responsible, why should TB Joshua give you money to save the licence of an Engineer or contractor, you are only blocking further generosity to your colleagues if they go to him again, it is a good thing in christianity to Give money to people and help people that dont have as much as you do, how do you know he does not feel remorse for those that died?, or should he not be grateful about those that were saved?, if he asked you what will you write, it does not mean he said you should lie to people read Psalm 19 about presumptious sin, im an Engineer and i can tell you that you putting blame blindly on TB Joshua is very ignorant, wait and let the investigation be concluded. then make your comment, you lost the 50,000 naira gift for nothing. |